Russian-Ukrainian war of 2022- ... for the salvation of the World

[Alik Bahshi]

Ukraine, possibly the most corrupt country of all, still has some honesty in a few of its leaders.

  Russia, in contrast, is corrupted primarily by the leadership, starting with President Putin and further along the vertical of power.

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[BADecker]

Ukraine, possibly the most corrupt country of all, still has some honesty in a few of its leaders.

  Russia, in contrast, is corrupted primarily by the leadership, starting with President Putin and further along the vertical of power.

It almost certainly couldn't be Putin!


BIZARRE: Ukraine spy chief claims Putin has been DEAD for a year – with Russia using DOPPELGANGERS in his place


https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-09-07-ukraine-spy-putin-dead-russia-using-doppelgangers.html
Ukraine spy chief Maj. Gen. Kyrylo Budanov has claimed that Russian President Vladimir Putin may have been dead for a year – with Russia using a series of so-called doppelgangers in place of the "real" Russian president.

Budanov, chief of the Main Directorate of Intelligence of Ukraine, claimed in an interview that the "real" Putin has not been seen in public for over a year, believing that this is due to the Russian president being ill for a long time, possibly with cancer.

Two weeks later, Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky also cast doubt on whether Putin was still alive. (Related: Ukraine may have tried to ASSASSINATE Vladimir Putin using a kamikaze drone.)

According to Budanov, "the Putin who everyone used to know" made his last public appearance around June 26, 2022. The military chief claimed that Putin is either no longer alive, being propped up by the state due to his ill health, or he simply doesn't want to appear.

Questions about whether Putin is using body doubles have circulated since last year

In October last year, Budanov questioned whether the real Putin still exists. He said the military intelligence service had detected Putin doubles in the past standing in for him on "special occasions" – but added that now it is "usual practice" for the Russian president.

"We know specifically about three people that keep appearing, but how many there are, we don't know. They all had plastic surgery to look alike," said Budanov. "The one thing that gives them away is their height. It's visible in videos and pictures. Also gesturing, body language and earlobes, since they are unique for every person. It's like a fingerprint – each person's ear picture is unique and it cannot be repeated."

A viral video earlier this year seized on speculation that Putin's only trip so far to the newly-conquered territory in Mariupol on March 19 was performed by a doppelganger.
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[Alik Bahshi]

Ukraine, possibly the most corrupt country of all, still has some honesty in a few of its leaders.

  Russia, in contrast, is corrupted primarily by the leadership, starting with President Putin and further along the vertical of power.

It almost certainly couldn't be Putin!

No, it is the St. Petersburg bandit and murderer Putin who leads corruption in Russia.

[Alik Bahshi]

In Cuba, 17 people were arrested who were recruiting young people for the war with Ukraine. They face up to 30 years in prison. Which says, first of all, how unpopular the war with Ukraine is among the Russian population.

[BADecker]

It's not necessarily a fact that Russian war machines and weapons are superior. It's simply that tanks are an outdated, useless method for making war on Ukraine kind of ground.


Abrams upgrade scrapped after Leopards tank in Ukraine


https://asiatimes.com/2023/09/abrams-upgrade-scrapped-after-leopards-tank-in-ukraine/
Heavy European tanks and armored vehicles have faced operational problems in Ukraine, often getting stuck in the mud or running out of fuel. In addition, European tanks have proven vulnerable to enemy fire. In many cases, Germany's Leopard tank – a tank that was considered superior to the Abrams – has not performed well.

The Russians have already destroyed around 15 Leopards using a variety of weapons ranging from artillery to rockets launched by helicopters to drones such as the Lancet. Billed as the next great thing to help Ukraine win the war, Leopard has proven a failure.
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[Alik Bahshi]

It's not necessarily a fact that Russian war machines and weapons are superior. It's simply that tanks are an outdated, useless method for making war on Ukraine kind of ground.

  What are you talking about? Did I say anything about types of weapons in the topic? You've clearly confused something with the topic.

[BADecker]

It's not necessarily a fact that Russian war machines and weapons are superior. It's simply that tanks are an outdated, useless method for making war on Ukraine kind of ground.

  What are you talking about? Did I say anything about types of weapons in the topic? You've clearly confused something with the topic.

Now, that's an interesting thought. Fighting a war without weapons. Do you mean that nobody would get hurt or die in that kind of war? Unless we are all being lied to in the extreme, that's not the kind of war that's going on between Russia and Ukraine.

When somebody says "war," the first thing that people think about is the kinds of weapons of war, right? So, you said all the kinds of weapons used in war right when you used the word "war" in your topic title.

[Alik Bahshi]

The Russians are unable to hold the front, despite their numerical superiority. The reason for this is the qualitative superiority of  western weapons.

[OgNasty]

It looks like Poland has finally had enough of this proxy war. They have announced that they will not be sending any more weapons to Ukraine. They even likened the situation to a drowning man being dangerous to save because of the potential for them to grab you and drown you along with them. Seems the world is starting to wake up.

[Alik Bahshi]

It looks like Poland has finally had enough of this proxy war. They have announced that they will not be sending any more weapons to Ukraine. They even likened the situation to a drowning man being dangerous to save because of the potential for them to grab you and drown you along with them. Seems the world is starting to wake up.

 Not at all like that! You are clearly not Pole. There is no need to invent tall tales. The Poles hate Russia and know that if the Russians take over Ukraine, they will not stop and will continue to expand, and the next will be the Poles, who were once already a colony of Russia.

[BADecker]

It looks like Poland has finally had enough of this proxy war. They have announced that they will not be sending any more weapons to Ukraine. They even likened the situation to a drowning man being dangerous to save because of the potential for them to grab you and drown you along with them. Seems the world is starting to wake up.

 Not at all like that! You are clearly not Pole. There is no need to invent tall tales. The Poles hate Russia and know that if the Russians take over Ukraine, they will not stop and will continue to expand, and the next will be the Poles, who were once already a colony of Russia.

The Poles are missing a big one this time. It comes in two parts:

1. Russia has drawn back, and is conquering nobody. It only looks like they might be, because they are protecting their own homeland. How are they protecting their homeland? By fighting those who are trying to conquer them. That brings us to number 2.

2. It is the US and Nato that are expanding and conquering. But they are doing it slowly enough that they people don't understand how. They are doing it with bribes and things like CIA infiltration. Things look peaceful, but Poland has been and is being conquered by Nato and the US.

Until Poles realize that evil Russia is being attacked by the much more evil US - particularly its banking system - they are doomed to lose their country to conquest by the One-World-Government.

Russia, China, and the BRICS countries are simply acting in self defense.

[Alik Bahshi]

It looks like Poland has finally had enough of this proxy war. They have announced that they will not be sending any more weapons to Ukraine. They even likened the situation to a drowning man being dangerous to save because of the potential for them to grab you and drown you along with them. Seems the world is starting to wake up.

 Not at all like that! You are clearly not Pole. There is no need to invent tall tales. The Poles hate Russia and know that if the Russians take over Ukraine, they will not stop and will continue to expand, and the next will be the Poles, who were once already a colony of Russia.

The Poles are missing a big one this time. It comes in two parts:

1. Russia has drawn back, and is conquering nobody. It only looks like they might be, because they are protecting their own homeland. How are they protecting their homeland? By fighting those who are trying to conquer them. That brings us to number 2.

2. It is the US and Nato that are expanding and conquering. But they are doing it slowly enough that they people don't understand how. They are doing it with bribes and things like CIA infiltration. Things look peaceful, but Poland has been and is being conquered by Nato and the US.

Until Poles realize that evil Russia is being attacked by the much more evil US - particularly its banking system - they are doomed to lose their country to conquest by the One-World-Government.

Russia, China, and the BRICS countries are simply acting in self defense.

I wonder who this childish lie is aimed at.

[BADecker]

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The Poles are missing a big one this time. It comes in two parts:

1. Russia has drawn back, and is conquering nobody. It only looks like they might be, because they are protecting their own homeland. How are they protecting their homeland? By fighting those who are trying to conquer them. That brings us to number 2.

2. It is the US and Nato that are expanding and conquering. But they are doing it slowly enough that they people don't understand how. They are doing it with bribes and things like CIA infiltration. Things look peaceful, but Poland has been and is being conquered by Nato and the US.

Until Poles realize that evil Russia is being attacked by the much more evil US - particularly its banking system - they are doomed to lose their country to conquest by the One-World-Government.

Russia, China, and the BRICS countries are simply acting in self defense.

I wonder who this childish lie is aimed at.

It's easy to see who is lying. Wasn't it 1991 when Russia broke up the Soviet Union with the understanding, and by treaty, that the US wouldn't expand Nato? It was a treaty of "we won't continue world conquest if you don't." Russia fulfilled their part of the treaty by breaking up the USSR.

What did the US do? They expanded not only Nato, but US power all over the world.

Seems to me the lie is with the US, who didn't live up to their agreement with Russia. Rather, US leaders have continually spoken about how they are going to attack and break up Russia. The reason why they want to do this is that they want to take over the wealth of natural resources there, in Russia, and especially in Siberia. Russia is only defending itself from the lying, conquering advancements made by the US.

It's right out there in the open for everybody to see. Yet you want to push the lie that the US are the good guys, and that Russia is the bad, warring faction. Your lie is plain for everybody to see.

[Alik Bahshi]

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The Poles are missing a big one this time. It comes in two parts:

1. Russia has drawn back, and is conquering nobody. It only looks like they might be, because they are protecting their own homeland. How are they protecting their homeland? By fighting those who are trying to conquer them. That brings us to number 2.

2. It is the US and Nato that are expanding and conquering. But they are doing it slowly enough that they people don't understand how. They are doing it with bribes and things like CIA infiltration. Things look peaceful, but Poland has been and is being conquered by Nato and the US.

Until Poles realize that evil Russia is being attacked by the much more evil US - particularly its banking system - they are doomed to lose their country to conquest by the One-World-Government.

Russia, China, and the BRICS countries are simply acting in self defense.

I wonder who this childish lie is aimed at.

It's easy to see who is lying. Wasn't it 1991 when Russia broke up the Soviet Union with the understanding, and by treaty, that the US wouldn't expand Nato? It was a treaty of "we won't continue world conquest if you don't." Russia fulfilled their part of the treaty by breaking up the USSR.

What did the US do? They expanded not only Nato, but US power all over the world.

Seems to me the lie is with the US, who didn't live up to their agreement with Russia. Rather, US leaders have continually spoken about how they are going to attack and break up Russia. The reason why they want to do this is that they want to take over the wealth of natural resources there, in Russia, and especially in Siberia. Russia is only defending itself from the lying, conquering advancements made by the US.

It's right out there in the open for everybody to see. Yet you want to push the lie that the US are the good guys, and that Russia is the bad, warring faction. Your lie is plain for everybody to see.

Again a lie. Firstly, it was not Russia that collapsed, but the USSR. Secondly, the collapse of the USSR was not the result of an agreement with the United States.

[BADecker]

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It's easy to see who is lying. Wasn't it 1991 when Russia broke up the Soviet Union with the understanding, and by treaty, that the US wouldn't expand Nato? It was a treaty of "we won't continue world conquest if you don't." Russia fulfilled their part of the treaty by breaking up the USSR.

What did the US do? They expanded not only Nato, but US power all over the world.

Seems to me the lie is with the US, who didn't live up to their agreement with Russia. Rather, US leaders have continually spoken about how they are going to attack and break up Russia. The reason why they want to do this is that they want to take over the wealth of natural resources there, in Russia, and especially in Siberia. Russia is only defending itself from the lying, conquering advancements made by the US.

It's right out there in the open for everybody to see. Yet you want to push the lie that the US are the good guys, and that Russia is the bad, warring faction. Your lie is plain for everybody to see.

Again a lie. Firstly, it was not Russia that collapsed, but the USSR. Secondly, the collapse of the USSR was not the result of an agreement with the United States.

The lie is a deception on your part. Of course Russia didn't collapse. Neither did the USSR. The USSR was broken up. But all the countries, at least the major ones, are still there. None of it collapsed.

The fact remains that the US and Nato are continuing to grow Nato. But the disintegration of the USSR, which was mainly controlled by Russia, shows who is the aggressor. It isn't Russia. If it was, they would have forced the USSR to remain intact. Rather, it is the US and Nato that are the aggressors.

You keep picking on Russia like it is an aggressor with a capital "A." Russian aggression is nothing compared with US aggression, and Nato's along with it.

Why do you think that BRICS exists? It's because the world is getting fed up with US/Nato aggression.

[Alik Bahshi]

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It's easy to see who is lying. Wasn't it 1991 when Russia broke up the Soviet Union with the understanding, and by treaty, that the US wouldn't expand Nato? It was a treaty of "we won't continue world conquest if you don't." Russia fulfilled their part of the treaty by breaking up the USSR.

What did the US do? They expanded not only Nato, but US power all over the world.

Seems to me the lie is with the US, who didn't live up to their agreement with Russia. Rather, US leaders have continually spoken about how they are going to attack and break up Russia. The reason why they want to do this is that they want to take over the wealth of natural resources there, in Russia, and especially in Siberia. Russia is only defending itself from the lying, conquering advancements made by the US.

It's right out there in the open for everybody to see. Yet you want to push the lie that the US are the good guys, and that Russia is the bad, warring faction. Your lie is plain for everybody to see.

Again a lie. Firstly, it was not Russia that collapsed, but the USSR. Secondly, the collapse of the USSR was not the result of an agreement with the United States.

The lie is a deception on your part. Of course Russia didn't collapse. Neither did the USSR. The USSR was broken up. But all the countries, at least the major ones, are still there. None of it collapsed.

The fact remains that the US and Nato are continuing to grow Nato. But the disintegration of the USSR, which was mainly controlled by Russia, shows who is the aggressor. It isn't Russia. If it was, they would have forced the USSR to remain intact. Rather, it is the US and Nato that are the aggressors.

You keep picking on Russia like it is an aggressor with a capital "A." Russian aggression is nothing compared with US aggression, and Nato's along with it.

Why do you think that BRICS exists? It's because the world is getting fed up with US/Nato aggression.

You also forgot to say that Ukraine attacked Russia. Today, the calling card of Putin’s Russia is Lies, and this is known to the whole World, and you personally present this lie here on the forum. By the way, it is not America that is to blame for the collapse of the USSR, but the vicious economy of the economic system that developed in the USSR, deprived of private property and initiative. Your comments are like the baby talk of a stubborn child living in a world of fairy tales and legends. However, you are not a child and you know for sure that everything that comes from you is nothing more than the lies of a Putin propagandist, similar to the propagandists working for the Russian state media.

[BADecker]

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The lie is a deception on your part. Of course Russia didn't collapse. Neither did the USSR. The USSR was broken up. But all the countries, at least the major ones, are still there. None of it collapsed.

The fact remains that the US and Nato are continuing to grow Nato. But the disintegration of the USSR, which was mainly controlled by Russia, shows who is the aggressor. It isn't Russia. If it was, they would have forced the USSR to remain intact. Rather, it is the US and Nato that are the aggressors.

You keep picking on Russia like it is an aggressor with a capital "A." Russian aggression is nothing compared with US aggression, and Nato's along with it.

Why do you think that BRICS exists? It's because the world is getting fed up with US/Nato aggression.

You also forgot to say that Ukraine attacked Russia. Today, the calling card of Putin’s Russia is Lies, and this is known to the whole World, and you personally present this lie here on the forum. By the way, it is not America that is to blame for the collapse of the USSR, but the vicious economy of the economic system that developed in the USSR, deprived of private property and initiative. Your comments are like the baby talk of a stubborn child living in a world of fairy tales and legends. However, you are not a child and you know for sure that everything that comes from you is nothing more than the lies of a Putin propagandist, similar to the propagandists working for the Russian state media.

I didn't forget to say that Ukraine attacked Russia. There have been so many squabblings among the Russian and Ukrainian peoples over many decades, that it is difficult to say who started it, and who is more right or more wrong. The fact is that Ukraine was amassing a large military front against the Donbas areas about a week before Russia attacked. Russia attacked to protect the people in the Donbas and Donetsk.

Everybody lies, at least a little. Russia's little lies aren't anything when compared with the general, standard lying that the US does to its own people and the rest of the world all the time. Your big lie is that you know this, yet you continually strive to make things look like Russia is the big liar. What happened to you? Did Putin kick you out of the KGB decades ago, and you are still angry at that?

So, you admit that Russia is not the aggressor. You show it by agreeing that they collapsed as the USSR... whatever the reasons might be for it. The only reason my talk might be like baby talk is, it isn't full of the lies and deception that yours is.

So, you are really saying that I am lying when I talk about the obvious, that Russia is not the aggressor that you say it is, because the USSR collapse is something that really happened? So you say that I am lying when I talk about the US aggression being far greater than Russia's when it is obvious that Nato is expanding = US aggression?

Don't you realize that the Russian approach to world conquest was simply formal Socialism/Communism, which would have been good for everybody if the leaders had not been so greedy? Don't you realize that the US offers freedom for everybody, and then taxes them all so that they aren't really free, but simply don't understand that they are not free?

Either you are ignorant - not quite bright enough to put it all together - or you have been lying for so long that you can't even see that you are mistaken, when history shows it to you right in your face. Or are you trying to rewrite history from your own skewed point of view?

[Alik Bahshi]

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The lie is a deception on your part. Of course Russia didn't collapse. Neither did the USSR. The USSR was broken up. But all the countries, at least the major ones, are still there. None of it collapsed.

The fact remains that the US and Nato are continuing to grow Nato. But the disintegration of the USSR, which was mainly controlled by Russia, shows who is the aggressor. It isn't Russia. If it was, they would have forced the USSR to remain intact. Rather, it is the US and Nato that are the aggressors.

You keep picking on Russia like it is an aggressor with a capital "A." Russian aggression is nothing compared with US aggression, and Nato's along with it.

Why do you think that BRICS exists? It's because the world is getting fed up with US/Nato aggression.

You also forgot to say that Ukraine attacked Russia. Today, the calling card of Putin’s Russia is Lies, and this is known to the whole World, and you personally present this lie here on the forum. By the way, it is not America that is to blame for the collapse of the USSR, but the vicious economy of the economic system that developed in the USSR, deprived of private property and initiative. Your comments are like the baby talk of a stubborn child living in a world of fairy tales and legends. However, you are not a child and you know for sure that everything that comes from you is nothing more than the lies of a Putin propagandist, similar to the propagandists working for the Russian state media.

I didn't forget to say that Ukraine attacked Russia.

That's it! You must constantly remember this blatant lie of Putin and replicate it at every opportunity.

[paxmao]

It looks like Poland has finally had enough of this proxy war. They have announced that they will not be sending any more weapons to Ukraine. They even likened the situation to a drowning man being dangerous to save because of the potential for them to grab you and drown you along with them. Seems the world is starting to wake up.

Correction, they will not be sending any further SOVIET equipment as they have made before. It seems that Poland has effectively made a transition to a modern NATO equipment and cannot spare more stuff for now. Some sources are linking this to Ukrainian grain, but it is not correct. Poland understands perfectly well what means to have Ruzzia at the door.

[BADecker]

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The lie is a deception on your part. Of course Russia didn't collapse. Neither did the USSR. The USSR was broken up. But all the countries, at least the major ones, are still there. None of it collapsed.

The fact remains that the US and Nato are continuing to grow Nato. But the disintegration of the USSR, which was mainly controlled by Russia, shows who is the aggressor. It isn't Russia. If it was, they would have forced the USSR to remain intact. Rather, it is the US and Nato that are the aggressors.

You keep picking on Russia like it is an aggressor with a capital "A." Russian aggression is nothing compared with US aggression, and Nato's along with it.

Why do you think that BRICS exists? It's because the world is getting fed up with US/Nato aggression.

You also forgot to say that Ukraine attacked Russia. Today, the calling card of Putin’s Russia is Lies, and this is known to the whole World, and you personally present this lie here on the forum. By the way, it is not America that is to blame for the collapse of the USSR, but the vicious economy of the economic system that developed in the USSR, deprived of private property and initiative. Your comments are like the baby talk of a stubborn child living in a world of fairy tales and legends. However, you are not a child and you know for sure that everything that comes from you is nothing more than the lies of a Putin propagandist, similar to the propagandists working for the Russian state media.

I didn't forget to say that Ukraine attacked Russia.

That's it! You must constantly remember this blatant lie of Putin and replicate it at every opportunity.

I know, I know. It hurts, doesn't it, when you make nonsense websites, and post in forums all kinds of nonsense, and then I come along with a few words and destroy 99% of your agenda with a tiny bit of truth.

Look at the bright side. You could easily tweak your forum and say something worthwhile.

BTW, did Putin really kick you out of the KGB 35 years ago?