Russian-Ukrainian war of 2022- ... for the salvation of the World

[BADecker]

It is a Slavic civil war, for some reason some want to make more of it.

 Who wants to stir up this war?
 

Right! Russia needs to get in there and take the Ukraine puppet government out.

What is the business of Russia, what kind of government is in another country?

Are you the only one who hasn't figured out that this is what the US has been doing around the world for a hundred years or more? Russia is only protecting herself and Ukraine regarding the Ukraine takeover by the US.

[Alik Bahshi]

It is a Slavic civil war, for some reason some want to make more of it.

 Who wants to stir up this war?
 

Right! Russia needs to get in there and take the Ukraine puppet government out.

What is the business of Russia, what kind of government is in another country?

Are you the only one who hasn't figured out that this is what the US has been doing around the world for a hundred years or more? Russia is only protecting herself and Ukraine regarding the Ukraine takeover by the US.

Thanks to the war started by Russia with Ukraine, the last empire will finally disappear. Dozens of new states will appear

[BADecker]

Are you the only one who hasn't figured out that this is what the US has been doing around the world for a hundred years or more? Russia is only protecting herself and Ukraine regarding the Ukraine takeover by the US.

Thanks to the war started by Russia with Ukraine, the last empire will finally disappear. Dozens of new states will appear

According to Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Ukraine - the last war with Ukraine that Russia was involved in started in 2014. Even Wikipedia understands that there is a lot of difficulty in determining who was the perpetrator of the war, when it started, and why.

[Alik Bahshi]

Russia lost all the battles with Napoleon. Russia lost to Japan in 1905. Russia lost the First World War, Russia lost the war in Afghanistan. Russia will also lose the war in Ukraine.

[af_newbie]

Russia lost all the battles with Napoleon. Russia lost to Japan in 1905. Russia lost the First World War, Russia lost the war in Afghanistan. Russia will also lose the war in Ukraine.

+1

People need to imagine what would happen if the West (UK/USA) would support Germany and provide it with a lend-lease during WWII,
provide military intelligence and organize international legions to fight on the side of Germany to defeat the Soviet Union.

The only reason Germans lost was that the whole world was against them.

I think Russia will be completely demilitarized this time around.

[BADecker]

Russia lost all the battles with Napoleon. Russia lost to Japan in 1905. Russia lost the First World War, Russia lost the war in Afghanistan. Russia will also lose the war in Ukraine.

+1

People need to imagine what would happen if the West (UK/USA) would support Germany and provide it with a lend-lease during WWII,
provide military intelligence and organize international legions to fight on the side of Germany to defeat the Soviet Union.

The only reason Germans lost was that the whole world was against them.

I think Russia will be completely demilitarized this time around.

You ignore the real reason why nations win and nations lose. God acts in the most wonderful ways to save people.

You and I aren't dead, yet. But will we arise after death, being saved by God Himself? Only if we don't keep on rejecting Him.

[af_newbie]

Russia lost all the battles with Napoleon. Russia lost to Japan in 1905. Russia lost the First World War, Russia lost the war in Afghanistan. Russia will also lose the war in Ukraine.

+1

People need to imagine what would happen if the West (UK/USA) would support Germany and provide it with a lend-lease during WWII,
provide military intelligence and organize international legions to fight on the side of Germany to defeat the Soviet Union.

The only reason Germans lost was that the whole world was against them.

I think Russia will be completely demilitarized this time around.

You ignore the real reason why nations win and nations lose. God acts in the most wonderful ways to save people.

You and I aren't dead, yet. But will we arise after death, being saved by God Himself? Only if we don't keep on rejecting Him.

Sure. "Gott mit uns" did not work too well for the Germans.

Did 'God' help the atheist Soviet Union to win WWII?

Both Ukrainian and Russian soldiers believe in God. Which side will God help this time?
(Hint: the one with better military training and more modern weapons)

[BADecker]

You ignore the real reason why nations win and nations lose. God acts in the most wonderful ways to save people.

You and I aren't dead, yet. But will we arise after death, being saved by God Himself? Only if we don't keep on rejecting Him.

Sure. "Gott mit uns" did not work too well for the Germans.

Did 'God' help the atheist Soviet Union to win WWII?

Both Ukrainian and Russian soldiers believe in God. Which side will God help this time?
(Hint: the one with better military training and more modern weapons)

In fact, it was mostly the Soviet Union that did the winning over Germany in WW2.

WW2 happened something like less than 25 years after the Bolsheviks took over in Russia. There were loads of Christians and Jews in Russia at the time of the Czars. It was crooked US politicians, and banking, that financed the Bolsheviks so that they had the power to revolt successfully.

All of a sudden, you seem to think you know all about the why's and how's of who God might help. Everything that God does among people, he has revealed to his servants, the prophets of the Bible. Most of us don't have a big enough picture of the things that God says in the Bible, and a big enough picture of what is really going on in the world, to knowingly make accurate predictions.

Ucy, a fellow forum member, has some good ideas about how God is working and why... in the world today. Try asking him for help.

[Alik Bahshi]

Russia lost all the battles with Napoleon. Russia lost to Japan in 1905. Russia lost the First World War, Russia lost the war in Afghanistan. Russia will also lose the war in Ukraine.

+1

People need to imagine what would happen if the West (UK/USA) would support Germany and provide it with a lend-lease during WWII,
provide military intelligence and organize international legions to fight on the side of Germany to defeat the Soviet Union.

The only reason Germans lost was that the whole world was against them.

I think Russia will be completely demilitarized this time around.

You ignore the real reason why nations win and nations lose. God acts in the most wonderful ways to save people.

You and I aren't dead, yet. But will we arise after death, being saved by God Himself? Only if we don't keep on rejecting Him.

Sure. "Gott mit uns" did not work too well for the Germans.

Did 'God' help the atheist Soviet Union to win WWII?

Both Ukrainian and Russian soldiers believe in God. Which side will God help this time?
(Hint: the one with better military training and more modern weapons)

Ukraine has more modern weapons and a strong motivation of soldiers. And the Russians have one motivation to flee abroad from mobilization.

[BADecker]

Sure. "Gott mit uns" did not work too well for the Germans.

Did 'God' help the atheist Soviet Union to win WWII?

Both Ukrainian and Russian soldiers believe in God. Which side will God help this time?
(Hint: the one with better military training and more modern weapons)

Ukraine has more modern weapons and a strong motivation of soldiers. And the Russians have one motivation to flee abroad from mobilization.

Here is the way it all is.

Zechariah 4:6:

So he said to me, “This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel: ‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,’ says the LORD Almighty.

[Alik Bahshi]

Sure. "Gott mit uns" did not work too well for the Germans.

Did 'God' help the atheist Soviet Union to win WWII?

Both Ukrainian and Russian soldiers believe in God. Which side will God help this time?
(Hint: the one with better military training and more modern weapons)

Ukraine has more modern weapons and a strong motivation of soldiers. And the Russians have one motivation to flee abroad from mobilization.

Here is the way it all is.

Zechariah 4:6:

So he said to me, “This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel: ‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,’ says the LORD Almighty.

That all the troll's arguments are over!? Putin will fire you for not being able to work well and send you to Ukraine.

[BADecker]

Sure. "Gott mit uns" did not work too well for the Germans.

Did 'God' help the atheist Soviet Union to win WWII?

Both Ukrainian and Russian soldiers believe in God. Which side will God help this time?
(Hint: the one with better military training and more modern weapons)

Ukraine has more modern weapons and a strong motivation of soldiers. And the Russians have one motivation to flee abroad from mobilization.

Here is the way it all is.

Zechariah 4:6:

So he said to me, “This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel: ‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,’ says the LORD Almighty.

That all the troll's arguments are over!? Putin will fire you for not being able to work well and send you to Ukraine.

Putin doesn't want to fire anybody. That's why he is holding off on using his nukes.

[Alik Bahshi]

Sure. "Gott mit uns" did not work too well for the Germans.

Did 'God' help the atheist Soviet Union to win WWII?

Both Ukrainian and Russian soldiers believe in God. Which side will God help this time?
(Hint: the one with better military training and more modern weapons)

Ukraine has more modern weapons and a strong motivation of soldiers. And the Russians have one motivation to flee abroad from mobilization.

Here is the way it all is.

Zechariah 4:6:

So he said to me, “This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel: ‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,’ says the LORD Almighty.

That all the troll's arguments are over!? Putin will fire you for not being able to work well and send you to Ukraine.

Putin doesn't want to fire anybody. That's why he is holding off on using his nukes.

 Putin has fear and confusion, he did not expect that the Russians could not fight with modern weapons, which Russia does not have.

[BADecker]

Putin doesn't want to fire anybody. That's why he is holding off on using his nukes.

 Putin has fear and confusion, he did not expect that the Russians could not fight with modern weapons, which Russia does not have.

When you check it out, Russian defeats regarding HIMARS have come about only because Russia didn't know how to handle them. It was new stuff for them.

Russia has learned, and they have implemented processes that are easily shooting down HIMARS rockets, and even capturing the HIMARS artillery.

[Alik Bahshi]

Putin doesn't want to fire anybody. That's why he is holding off on using his nukes.

 Putin has fear and confusion, he did not expect that the Russians could not fight with modern weapons, which Russia does not have.

When you check it out, Russian defeats regarding HIMARS have come about only because Russia didn't know how to handle them. It was new stuff for them.

Russia has learned, and they have implemented processes that are easily shooting down HIMARS rockets, and even capturing the HIMARS artillery.

Yes you are right! The Russians are using new military tactics. They, as you say, successfully destroy American fire systems and retreat from the occupied territory of Ukraine. A very interesting new method of war. I hope in this way the Russians will leave the entire territory of Ukraine.

[BADecker]

When you check it out, Russian defeats regarding HIMARS have come about only because Russia didn't know how to handle them. It was new stuff for them.

Russia has learned, and they have implemented processes that are easily shooting down HIMARS rockets, and even capturing the HIMARS artillery.

Yes you are right! The Russians are using new military tactics. They, as you say, successfully destroy American fire systems and retreat from the occupied territory of Ukraine. A very interesting new method of war. I hope in this way the Russians will leave the entire territory of Ukraine.

Russia isn't in Ukraine.

I mean, I suppose a few Russian soldiers step over the line into Ukraine once in a while. And I am sure a few Ukrainian solders step over the line into Russia once in a while.

The point is, Ukraine is about 20% smaller, and Russia is somewhat larger. Russia has accomplished some of her goals in this.

So, get Ukraine out of Russia. Get Ukraine to stop shooting at and bombing the new Russia. Get them to accept that they are 20% smaller. If they won't accept it and stay out of Russia - especially the new Russia - they are going to lose some more land.

[Alik Bahshi]

Russia isn't in Ukraine.

I mean, I suppose a few Russian soldiers step over the line into Ukraine once in a while. And I am sure a few Ukrainian solders step over the line into Russia once in a while.

The point is, Ukraine is about 20% smaller, and Russia is somewhat larger. Russia has accomplished some of her goals in this.

So, get Ukraine out of Russia. Get Ukraine to stop shooting at and bombing the new Russia. Get them to accept that they are 20% smaller. If they won't accept it and stay out of Russia - especially the new Russia - they are going to lose some more land.

What is this phrase "new Russia"? Nothing new. Russia was an aggressive country and remains so. However, I hope that now it will finally disintegrate like any empire.

[Alik Bahshi]

The Ukrainian army liberated Kherson from Russian fascists. The population greeted the Ukrainian soldiers with tears of joy. With the loss of a foothold on the right bank of the Dnieper, the Russians lost the opportunity to strike towards Odessa and further to Moldova.

[BADecker]

Russia isn't in Ukraine.

I mean, I suppose a few Russian soldiers step over the line into Ukraine once in a while. And I am sure a few Ukrainian solders step over the line into Russia once in a while.

The point is, Ukraine is about 20% smaller, and Russia is somewhat larger. Russia has accomplished some of her goals in this.

So, get Ukraine out of Russia. Get Ukraine to stop shooting at and bombing the new Russia. Get them to accept that they are 20% smaller. If they won't accept it and stay out of Russia - especially the new Russia - they are going to lose some more land.

What is this phrase "new Russia"? Nothing new. Russia was an aggressive country and remains so. However, I hope that now it will finally disintegrate like any empire.

You are simply mistaken in your whole idea of what is going on. Russian leaders want profit, just the same as US leaders, and Ukrainian leaders, and the leaders of all the world. Some of those leaders want profit for the countries they are leaders of. That's why they are leaders. They are pushy for profit, even to the point of fighting for it.

The old USSR was losing business and profit in the way they were operating their Union... through forceful conquering. They changed into a trade organization in 1991, so that they could make profit in a friendly way. Why? Because that is the way winning really works. You trade rather than conquer. Or you conquer through trading with the world. But you do it gently, or people rebel and it won't work.

All the great nations became greatest when they traded and did business in a friendly way. And that is what the new Russia is all about. Their forceful "invading" of Ukraine was done to stand up against US forces that had taken over Ukraine in a forceful way (but subtle, quiet way)... a thing that the US is not supposed to be doing at all. Russia did this simply to help their people in Ukraine, and to actually help all of Ukraine. It is the US and the US led Ukraine puppet government that is like the old Russia.

The Ukrainian army liberated Kherson from Russian fascists. The population greeted the Ukrainian soldiers with tears of joy. With the loss of a foothold on the right bank of the Dnieper, the Russians lost the opportunity to strike towards Odessa and further to Moldova.

And you are missing it here, as well. When you have nations that are as large in population as Ukraine was (prior to the US takeover), you will find people who think all kinds of ways. There are those right in Kherson who want Russian help, and those who want Russia to go away. Everybody wants peace. But there are many who want it this way, and many who want it that way. Not everybody wants it the same way.

During the time between 2014 and the time Russia started their police action, it was the Ukrainian military who was shelling and killing Ukrainians. Do you think they would stop their killing of Ukrainians and Russians if Russia pulled out? No! The Ukrainian government would continue harming Ukrainians just like Stalin harmed and killed many good Soviet Union people.


Wake up. You are missing a lot. Who in the world is writing your lines for you?

[Alik Bahshi]

You are simply mistaken in your whole idea of what is going on. Russian leaders want profit, just the same as US leaders, and Ukrainian leaders, and the leaders of all the world. Some of those leaders want profit for the countries they are leaders of. That's why they are leaders. They are pushy for profit, even to the point of fighting for it.

The old USSR was losing business and profit in the way they were operating their Union... through forceful conquering. They changed into a trade organization in 1991, so that they could make profit in a friendly way. Why? Because that is the way winning really works. You trade rather than conquer. Or you conquer through trading with the world. But you do it gently, or people rebel and it won't work.

All the great nations became greatest when they traded and did business in a friendly way. And that is what the new Russia is all about. Their forceful "invading" of Ukraine was done to stand up against US forces that had taken over Ukraine in a forceful way (but subtle, quiet way)... a thing that the US is not supposed to be doing at all. Russia did this simply to help their people in Ukraine, and to actually help all of Ukraine. It is the US and the US led Ukraine puppet government that is like the old Russia.

A good example of Russian nonsense! The Russians invaded Ukraine, killing civilians and destroying Ukrainian cities to save them from a US attack. Also say that it is America that is killing Ukrainians. You drink vodka in the morning, and continue to drink it until the evening, otherwise a sober person is not able to write like that.