Attaining legendary rank - is that the end?

[Sandra_hakeem]

It's actually funny when I see alot of peeps in the same line of thinking; legendary is merely a rank, just like every other ranks. Yeah? I know for sure that experience matters alot though but, it all depends on Which.
We have alot of members here that are legendaries but they don't even get a glimpse of the cryptographical part of Bitcoin; how trnx are made -- hashing -- encoding --p2p -- merkle tree etc. They don't even feel comfortable when such discussions are made cus they barely have anything to offer right? Now, if we're taking experience to be a guarantee for knowledge (coupled with the stress and time wasted on getting an account grown to such a rank) why are some left behind the normalized technical processes? Was there a time they left and didn't post but still received merits? ( I'm aware that merits were airdropped so, that's not where I'm thriving at)
That'll make you to understand that varieties of things can be done as a contribution for an account growth -- take a look at donators for instance --
Legendary ranks ain't the highest; to be honest, this whole rank stuff is -- to me -- just a mere formality if, and only if the OPs empty. It's sometimes assumed as flatteries.......
To every title, they must be an entitlement. If it's ridiculed, then, the routewise ain't launched wide, wide enough to get a bull's horn stucked.

Sandra 👩‍🦱

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[The Sceptical Chymist]

Legendary ranks ain't the highest; to be honest, this whole rank stuff is -- to me -- just a mere formality if, and only if the OPs empty. It's sometimes assumed as flatteries.......

Legendary rank on this particular forum is way, waaay more than just a flattering title.  On other forums, with whatever ranking systems they have in place, that might be true, but I can pretty much guarantee you that there aren't as many (if any) threads created about attaining the highest rank--or even just ranking up in general.

The truth is that bitcointalk is fundamentally different than other discussion forums due to the existence of signature campaigns and bounties, i.e., using avatars, personal text, and signature space to get paid for advertising.  Since you generally get more advertising space the higher up you go in the ranks, if you're participating in a campaign or bounty or planning to, it's of great personal (and by that I mean financial) interest to get to the higher ranks.

It seems strange to me that it's seemingly become less important to members in the years that I've been here, because back in 2016-18 I think there were way more threads in Meta that dealt with ranking up.  And after the merit system was introduced, all hell rained down in the Meta section because it suddenly became so much harder for Newbies to even become Jr. Members--and the shitposters who were used to just having to post and wait in order to rank up now were scratching their collective retarded heads, wondering how in the holy hell they were going to make posts good enough to earn merits.

They still haven't figured that one out.  Probably never will.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Legendary rank on this particular forum is way, waaay more than just a flattering title. 

Uhm.... I have to agree with you yeah? Cus you're an ancient advocate,covered on the face by some bibliophilic essence, furrowed on the chin with some grey, hairy stuff (atleast as a sign of profoundness) and a massive protruging tommy , filled with golden-tainted potential, tryna Ameliorate/ solicit just to save the asses of the black Bunny-rats; that all they know is sit in there, unaccounted for , just to 'bear' the tag -- legendary-- .

That wasn't really for all legends,old boy -- sorta ones like you? No! -- those that had the message, know themselves and had been clothed in inferiority complex about -- say since 8765432 years ago --

--and the shitposters who were used to just having to post and wait in order to rank up now were scratching their collective retarded heads, wondering how in the holy hell they were going to make posts good enough to earn merits.

They still haven't figured that one out.  Probably never will.

CHYMIST 😄
You made me LMAO; those dumb heads haven't even decided -- until now -- to raise a standard over their garbage sandwiched brains?? Oh hell come onnnn!!!
So they just tryna fix a SQUARE PEG IN A ROUND HOLE.

Sandra 👩‍🦱

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Cus you're an ancient advocate,covered on the face by some bibliophilic essence, furrowed on the chin with some grey, hairy stuff (atleast as a sign of profoundness) and a massive protruging tommy , filled with golden-tainted potential, tryna Ameliorate/ solicit just to save the asses of the black Bunny-rats;

Goddamn, you have a way with words--and pseudo-words, too.  But the above statement is kinda freaky; it's almost as though you knew me in real life (except perhaps for the facial hair).  Freaky deaky, darlin'.

So they just tryna fix a SQUARE PEG IN A ROUND HOLE.

Yeah, but unlike any other person who does manual labor, these idiots keep collecting a paycheck for forcing that peg into the hole it doesn't fit into.  In real life, they'd be fired for being incompetent peg pounders.  On the forum?  Their bosses are just happy to have something with a heartbeat behind the keyboard that types all the nonsense.  Until bounty managers (or project devs) figure out a way to create bots to do what these shitposters are currently doing, everything I described above is just going to keep happening. 

I've been here over 7 years, and it was actually worse when I registered, if you can believe that.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

To me rank is just a means to place recognition for an improved user who has been consistently contributing with important and necessary post they every one could gain from, this rank identify such user for the accomplishment of a growth stage from lower level to higher level with deep knowledge and understandings of bitcoin and the forum at large and what now justifies this is the acquired merits, to me being in a legendary position gives an indication for perpetual years of active contributions and by that rank, a user must have been well established to be distinguished from a newbie, i don't see a reason to continue in rank but rather, those that remains steadfast in their contributions to the community growth may stand a chance to benefit recommendations for openings of opportunities anytime, because I've seen some legendary ranks being inactive over time.

[krishnaverma]

It's actually funny when I see alot of peeps in the same line of thinking; legendary is merely a rank, just like every other ranks. Yeah? I know for sure that experience matters alot though but, it all depends on Which.
We have alot of members here that are legendaries but they don't even get a glimpse of the cryptographical part of Bitcoin; how trnx are made -- hashing -- encoding --p2p -- merkle tree etc. They don't even feel comfortable when such discussions are made cus they barely have anything to offer right? Now, if we're taking experience to be a guarantee for knowledge (coupled with the stress and time wasted on getting an account grown to such a rank) why are some left behind the normalized technical processes? Was there a time they left and didn't post but still received merits? ( I'm aware that merits were airdropped so, that's not where I'm thriving at)
That'll make you to understand that varieties of things can be done as a contribution for an account growth -- take a look at donators for instance --
Legendary ranks ain't the highest; to be honest, this whole rank stuff is -- to me -- just a mere formality if, and only if the OPs empty. It's sometimes assumed as flatteries.......
To every title, they must be an entitlement. If it's ridiculed, then, the routewise ain't launched wide, wide enough to get a bull's horn stucked.

Sandra 👩‍🦱

The purpose of ranks from the forum owner or website owner point of view is mostly to make the rank holder feel proud and thus contribute more on the forum or website. It is obvious on many sites. What exactly is the reason behind ranks on this forum, I cannot predict exactly though.
But saying that a legendary rank means nothing will be wrong. These ranks existed before the merit system but have become more relevant after merit system as now ranks have to be earned. It can be and should be made more tough for legendary rank to hold these ranks.

[skarais]

The purpose of ranks from the forum owner or website owner is mostly to make the rank holder feel proud and this contribute more on the forum or website. It is obvious on many sites.

Not many users care about rank including me if theymos don't introduce a merit system. Why? Ranking can be reached to Legendary by anyone if you always actively post and accumulate enough activity without any merit before January 2018. But the merit system has succeeded in preventing more users who deserve to be in the highest rank than giving all users the right to rank without high quality posts.

What exactly is the reason behind ranks on this forum, I cannot predict exactly though.

If you know what the purpose of implementing a merit system is, then you will also know how much the current rank means to most users.

[FFrankie]

The key is to never reach legendary by just not getting any merit when you get really really close

[Timelord2067]

There's also "Double Legendary" where you have the 1,000 airdropped merits, then you earn an additional 1,000 merits through hard work and determination thus reaching the nominal "Legendary" status with 1,000 earned (instead of airdropped) merits.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

What exactly is the reason behind ranks on this forum, I cannot predict exactly though.

You don't need to predict anything about the ranking system--just read my posts above, because I know whereof I speak.  Back when the forum was created, I'm guessing it was no big deal and if you achieved Legendary it just meant that you'd been around long enough and posted enough to get there.  But ever since the beginning of signature campaigns, that changed.

But the merit system has succeeded in preventing more users who deserve to be in the highest rank than giving all users the right to rank without high quality posts.

Wait, are you saying the merit system has done more harm than good?  I can't tell if this is a misunderstanding due to language or not, but if that is what you mean I'd say that the really good posters should be well on their way to Legendary if they're not at that rank already.  I won't argue that the merit system has made it harder for everyone to rank up, but it was a necessary evil.  You weren't around in 2015-16, but you were definitely here before the merit system so hopefully you remember how bad the shitposting problem had gotten.

[skarais]

But the merit system has succeeded in preventing more users who deserve to be in the highest rank than giving all users the right to rank without high quality posts.

Wait, are you saying the merit system has done more harm than good?  I can't tell if this is a misunderstanding due to language or not, but if that is what you mean I'd say that the really good posters should be well on their way to Legendary if they're not at that rank already.

Yes, that's a misunderstanding and to be honest, I really want to say that bad posters have been prevented by the merit system from rank up to Legendary. Good posters earn the right to rank up because of their quality and many of those posters are on their way up their respective ranks, and I'm sure many of them have already reached Legendary.

I won't argue that the merit system has made it harder for everyone to rank up, but it was a necessary evil.

Theymos said about merit system:

- Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.

You weren't around in 2015-16, but you were definitely here before the merit system so hopefully you remember how bad the shitposting problem had gotten.

Of course I remember it well, but the merit system didn't stop me from rank up especially since I care about post quality. It seems that you also know, mate. 

[348Judah]

What exactly is the reason behind ranks on this forum, I cannot predict exactly though.

There have been ranks from the start to show how progressive you are on the forum, if you have been active and constant on the forum, but there was a discovery made to stop and tackle spammers from ranking up on the forum and the best means was to introduce a merit system, this merit system will restrict shitposters and spammers from ranking up on the forum, ranking up actually is a choice but if truly you wanted to build a tangible stay on the forum then you will know better on the importance of ranking up, atleast we have some members trolling around the forum, some come and once there's solution to their challenges they left, should the forum allows such to be ranking up? not until you define your purpose for coming to bitcointalk then you may not understand why things are been done and why some aren't.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

What I’m curious about is that only a few legendary guys are always active in the forum and providing lasting solutions to questions posed in the forum. Others that are active only post to complete their signature posts. Does that imply that after getting to legendary rank, making posts or comments to be merited is not necessary again?

In regards to the title of this thread which says "Attaining Legendary rank-is that the end?" For me, I will say both Yes and No. That is, "Yes" because when it comes to forum ranking, legendary is indeed the last rank, and "No" because when it comes to forum/Bitcoin journey, legendary is actually starting point, as it has no limit to what anyone can exploit when it comes to Bitcoin and it's ecosystem
So, according to the chart given by @ imamusam, it clearly shows that "legendary" rank receives the highest amount of merit on the forum, due to the fact that those guys provide valuable contents, and have got more knowledge about the forum and Bitcoin in general, and could offer help or best advice as quickly to anyone in need, which in return get a merited reward

[Mpamaegbu]

There's also "Double Legendary" where you have the 1,000 airdropped merits, then you earn an additional 1,000 merits through hard work and determination thus reaching the nominal "Legendary" status with 1,000 earned (instead of airdropped) merits.

I'm just curious. How will you address members like o_e_l_e_o and LoyceV who've earned over 10,000 merits on their own? You'll call them, "Grandparent Legendary" or something in that line? 🤔

[krishnaverma]

What I’m curious about is that only a few legendary guys are always active in the forum and providing lasting solutions to questions posed in the forum. Others that are active only post to complete their signature posts. Does that imply that after getting to legendary rank, making posts or comments to be merited is not necessary again?

"legendary" rank receives the highest amount of merit on the forum, due to the fact that those guys provide valuable contents,

I am not insulting legendary members here but legendary members getting most merits will not always mean that it is because of valuable content only, there can be many other factors also behind this. Like by time , you become legendary , you are already experienced of the topics and sections which get more merits. You make same type of posts and in those same sections and earn lot of merits.

However, in general, I agree to the comment you made and which I quoted.

[qwertyup23]

I think the ranking system has to do something with the purpose of the individual- like does he want to rank-up in order to get higher payment rates in signature campaigns; or does he think that ranking is immaterial in his/her overall stay in this forum?

Users like LoyceV and others who attained thousands of merits have one (1) common purpose- which is to contribute to the overall experience and knowledge about this forum. So I do think it boils down to the purpose of the individual on why he/she joined in this forum in the first place.

[krishnaverma]

I think the ranking system has to do something with the purpose of the individual- like does he want to rank-up in order to get higher payment rates in signature campaigns; or does he think that ranking is immaterial in his/her overall stay in this forum?

Users like LoyceV and others who attained thousands of merits have one (1) common purpose- which is to contribute to the overall experience and knowledge about this forum. So I do think it boils down to the purpose of the individual on why he/she joined in this forum in the first place.

For the majority here, it is to become eligible for higher payouts in signature campaigns or sell something with credibility of higher rank.

[Shamm]

There's also "Double Legendary" where you have the 1,000 airdropped merits, then you earn an additional 1,000 merits through hard work and determination thus reaching the nominal "Legendary" status with 1,000 earned (instead of airdropped) merits.

I'm just curious. How will you address members like o_e_l_e_o and LoyceV who've earned over 10,000 merits on their own? You'll call them, "Grandparent Legendary" or something in that line? 🤔

Grandparent Legendary is a good name for above 10k merits warmer but it's look like they are already seniors citizens   just kidding
For now we have 2 user here in forum, o_e_l_e_o and LoyceV  already reach 12k merits and another 2 user who reach 10k merits fillippone and theymos, and I called them as Reign Glorious Legendary because they are like a kings of our forum which is they are the best of all legendaries out there.

[Erumo]

Like loosing activity, when your posts are deleted, users should lose merit when they havent received new for a long time. This will stop "I am legendary, I have achieved everything, I can rest now" kind of things.

[DdmrDdmr]

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I don’t see any real reason to do so. Regardless of the rank, people are entitled to take a break or pursue other goals with their time. It would, in any case, be more reasonable to tie it to other variables as well (i.e. number having not received any merits in the last x posts within a given timeframe). Instead of introducing a negative factor (losing Merits), it should suffice with not receiving a positive stimulus (not receiving Merits).