Twitch gambling problem and Sliker issue

[edgycorner]

Silker is a Twitch streamer and would use his influence & position to ask for money from his viewers, other streamers, friends, etcetra. Then he would gamble away all of this borrowed money on sports betting. Mostly tennis matches lol

Here's a tweet by Jake Lucky on this https://twitter.com/JakeSucky/status/1571309473402355712


Twitch has turned into a cesspool of gambling addicts and gambling pushers. Do you think it's a responsible content creation & moderation on a platform which is used by teens, kids, and young adults?

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?
I hope it does.

Update: Twitch has placed a ban on off shore casinos.
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[coin-investor]

Silker is a Twitch streamer and would use his influence & position to ask for money from his viewers, other streamers, friends, etcetra. Then he would gamble away all of this borrowed money on sports betting. Mostly tennis matches lol

I used to be a Twitch user but I dropped it and turned to Youtube and Dailymotion because of the lack of useful content it's a good hub for streamers and those who love streams love to be here, this has become one of the channels for streamers because of the interaction between streamers and followers, and on about borrowing money on his followers that too much they are making money from their stream sponsoring they don't have to do that, they will lose their reputation and followers and streamers abuse his followers.

Twitch has turned into a cesspool of gambling addicts and gambling pushers. Do you think it's a responsible content creation & moderation on a platform which is used by teens, kids, and young adults?

Twitch should be responsible enough and take a stand and decide if this is what they want on their platform, they should at least limit these streamers or penalized if they abuse their followers.

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?
I hope it does.

If what you've mentioned is an isolated case, they may not ban it, Twitch thrives on gambling streaming and they have gambling streams too on Youtube.

[dunfida]

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?
I hope it does.

If there would be some petitions specially if its on big or huge scale then Twitch might consider on having that ban but so far if they arent getting that much complaint then they would just let those people do continue on what they are doing.
If we do speak about ethical or not then it would always boils down on someones perspective,view or opinion.It isnt really just right that you would be having that sort of online begging
just for you to make out some sports betting.
Somehow, these people wont make out to have some bets if there were no people been sending some money.

[KennyR]

I'm not sure about the terms and conditions of the Twitch. Based on that it is quite an easy thing for the Twitch team to stop users from creating and broadcasting their contents. For now gambling is getting popular around and Twitch got importance for its scheduled streaming and different giveaways. As one of the user stated, people will move towards other forms of streaming opportunities.

[Baofeng]

Silker is a Twitch streamer and would use his influence & position to ask for money from his viewers, other streamers, friends, etcetra. Then he would gamble away all of this borrowed money on sports betting. Mostly tennis matches lol

Here's a tweet by Jake Lucky on this https://twitter.com/JakeSucky/status/1571309473402355712


Twitch has turned into a cesspool of gambling addicts and gambling pushers. Do you think it's a responsible content creation & moderation on a platform which is used by teens, kids, and young adults?

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?
I hope it does.

It's gonna be tricky though, I try to search for the keyword gambling in their TOS and nothing comes up,

https://www.twitch.tv/p/en/legal/terms-of-service/

But it says:

xvii. use the Twitch Services for any illegal purpose, or in violation of any local, state, national, or international law or regulation, including without limitation laws governing intellectual property and other proprietary rights, data protection, and privacy.

So it seems that there is no clear violation as far as their TOS goes for this gambling streamers. And if the company is making millions if not billions due to the crypto boom, then it might be very hard for them to just shut it down. And for sure if they do that, there could be another streaming services that will pop up and then the cycle continues. Unless they are going to review first those live streams and then stop it right away before it got views.

Although this is not the first time that they have to do with something illegal if I'm not mistaken. There was some controversies about the "skins gambling" in CS:GO.

[dothebeats]

Twitch doesn't care unless they are called out by a lot of their streamers on Twitter. So long as it does not break their terms and they are still making loads of money from that streamer, they won't take an action. The heads of Twitter doesn't seem to care about the community at all, given the amount of scandals their platform produced from streamers and a lot of negative reviews against the management of the streaming platform. I think a lawsuit will help Twitch to start to listen to their patrons once and for all, but there isn't anything to throw at them, really.

[Hydrogen]

Seeing so many twitch streamers fall prey to gambling addiction and become real life representatives for the negative darkside of gambling.

Wouldn't it be better to expose as many youth to them as possible. To encourage them to take a different path in life.

I'm curious as to how this works. If children walk down the street and see drug addicts on street corners. Would that encourage them to not be a drug addict? Or does it become socially normalized?

If youth on twitch see gamblers have personal problems and disorders related to gambling. Would it make them less likely to gamble? Or would they choose to follow in the footsteps of gambling addicts?

Seeing lots of people I know have their lives go downhill after being involved with drugs. Was the best motivation for me staying away from drugs. I don't understand how some try not to learn from the life mistakes of others.

[Wexnident]

Well one, I don't think asking for money and failing to repay them is a problem for twitch, it's actually just a problem for the streamer itself and afaik, twitch accepts gambling streams in of itself, which I would assume has some sort of moderation towards showing it to accounts that have kids age (which ofc, can easily be bypassed but that's another thing). Two, this issue better be blown to proportions before we see twitch actually taking action. Proportions to the level where they would investigate the streamer legally at that point.

Seeing lots of people I know have their lives go downhill after being involved with drugs. Was the best motivation for me staying away from drugs. I don't understand how some try not to learn from the life mistakes of others.

Curiosity I guess? Never really had it though but it's probably the only thing children would have when it comes to something their parents keep them away from without actually explaining it in terms that they could udnerstand.

[jakelyson]

Twitch has turned into a cesspool of gambling addicts and gambling pushers. Do you think it's a responsible content creation & moderation on a platform which is used by teens, kids, and young adults?

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?
I hope it does.

That is what it turned into right now. As long as it amasses views, streamers will do anything, with no restrictions. They do not mind if it will have a negative effect on their viewers or whether kids will be following and copying their actions.

But I do not think that Twitch will do anything about it unless there are mass reports on this kind of content. Twitch is still a business and if it is earning money from it then it will continue. They will do nothing unless the community forces them to do something about it.

[AicecreaME]

According to what I have read, gambling content particularly slots are permitted to be streamed on twitch. I think they don't have a rule in their terms of service that states an outright ban or suspension for those creators of gambling streaming content. This is why there are a lot of streamers on gambling games that share their content in twitch since it is a platform that caters their interest, and do not really have a strict regulation or limitation of content creations topic.

Perhaps twitch will just be alarmed and will make necessary actions the moment they will be called out by many in other platforms. Since they are profiting with what their streamers are doing, there's a big chance that they will just let this kind of cases to slide unless there's an urge for them to make a step to put such things into halt. Personally, I don't really get why streamer like Sliker will still ask to borrow money, most especially from his viewers because he makes a decent income for sure in streaming his content and therefore he shouldn't be soliciting from his followers. This just shows how addicted he is in gambling and how he handles his financial matters which is not really a role model specifically to the younger generations lurking around twitch platform.

[bittraffic]

Too early for Twitch to be something that the government will interfere to this issue.  This is not like Twitter where almost everyone is there. Too bad for gamblers to fall for what the streamers are saying and scamming them.

The Twitch CEO I think can do something to stop these streamers but they might be afraid they'd also lose users for censoring this early. That's the dilemma to face.

[Strongkored]

If in the Twitch ToS that this activity is prohibited, it will definitely be banned, but it could be banned even though it does not violate the ToS if many report and consider content such as gambling to have a bad impact.
Twitch is already one of the platforms used by many streamers and this gives their business an advantage if they ban gambling content it will have an impact on they earnings so in my opinion as long as there are no reports and complaints of gambling content on Twitch will persist

[ryzaadit]

More like "IDIOT".

We all know all twitch streamer is getting a contract with casino for promoted them, and they using a promoted money to playing but streamer getting a different payment depends on the deal like (How old is the contract/by each video).

This, guys using a real money ~LOL.

[davis196]

Twitch banned most of the Adult female streamers(also known as thots) for NSFW content.
Why do you think that Twitch won't ban the gambling streamers?
I'm not using Twitch anymore and I don't like that platform, but from my experience, Twitch is very slow when it comes to banning streamers that violate their Terms of Service. Maybe the platform is just too big and Twitch doesn't have a big enough team of moderators and customer support representatives that would effectively control all streamers. I'm sure that the gambling streamers will be banned in the long run.

[btc_angela]

It both parties benefited, Twitch and then the streamers, then it will be very difficult to stop the proliferation of gambling in their platform.

But if some government agency stop up the place and give a stern warning on the platform, then maybe they will do something and ban those streamers for good or be on the lookout. But for now, I would say it will continue and it is going to grow big as crypto gambling is now the thing as far as online gambling.

[swogerino]

Silker is a Twitch streamer and would use his influence & position to ask for money from his viewers, other streamers, friends, etcetra. Then he would gamble away all of this borrowed money on sports betting. Mostly tennis matches lol

Here's a tweet by Jake Lucky on this https://twitter.com/JakeSucky/status/1571309473402355712


Twitch has turned into a cesspool of gambling addicts and gambling pushers. Do you think it's a responsible content creation & moderation on a platform which is used by teens, kids, and young adults?

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?
I hope it does.

I think gambling streams are difficult to ban especially from governments when they have no incentive to do so.This is an example of a huge addiction which makes anyone even a great streamer to lose his mind as only a person who does not think clearly ask for money from viewers,friends,relatives etc.

So this borrowed money if it is gambled away it means that this guy Silker has no intention to pay it back which makes it even a bigger offense.What his followers should do is stop lending him money so he cannot gamble all of them away,he needs to be back on his head and then to continue streaming.Every addicted person streamer or no streamer is a dangerous individual in the sense that they cannot and should not be trusted with any money.

[Cryptomultiplier]

My thoughts on the gambling problem being related to the Sliker issue may be overbearing. This could be among the worst case scenarios of gambling addiction. Perhaps it could be something else that demands such expenses, like drugs or pills, or even bills too. Hell, it could be a hustle!
Having to borrow consecutively in that order however, is a concern, also, making it seem like the streaming site, 'Twitch' is solely responsible for Slikers pleasurable fondliness, is rather excessive.
Twitch should be able to sanction him if these persons/viewers from whom he had borrowed, make complaints that corroborate others.
Unlike other well-known streaming apps online today, the owners of Twitch want to make a profit and be on a pedestal. Hence, a sanction is imminent for Sliker if he continues in this manner.

[edgycorner]

If we do speak about ethical or not then it would always boils down on someones perspective,view or opinion.It isnt really just right that you would be having that sort of online begging
just for you to make out some sports betting.

Nothing about gamba twitch streams and this fiasco is an ethical question. It's very clear cut.

If what you've mentioned is an isolated case, they may not ban it, Twitch thrives on gambling streaming and they have gambling streams too on Youtube.

This case is direct result of normalizing gambling. This should be enough evidence that Twitch is deteriorating morals of its users by not censoring addictive vices.

I'm not sure about the terms and conditions of the Twitch. Based on that it is quite an easy thing for the Twitch team to stop users from creating and broadcasting their contents. For now gambling is getting popular around and Twitch got importance for its scheduled streaming and different giveaways. As one of the user stated, people will move towards other forms of streaming opportunities.

This is what I don't get. Brands don't advertise in gambling category, so twitch doesn't earn as much money from slots as they earn from other categories.
If twitch bans gamba streams then streamers will be forced to create content in other categories, which pays more(to Twitch and the creator).

Twitch banned most of the Adult female streamers(also known as thots) for NSFW content.
Why do you think that Twitch won't ban the gambling streamers?
I'm not using Twitch anymore and I don't like that platform, but from my experience, Twitch is very slow when it comes to banning streamers that violate their Terms of Service. Maybe the platform is just too big and Twitch doesn't have a big enough team of moderators and customer support representatives that would effectively control all streamers. I'm sure that the gambling streamers will be banned in the long run.

I am perpplexed too. Why isn't it banned already!


Twitch is probably worried about losing its users to the competition. Since a ban on gamba may trigger an exodus of slot streamers to other sites with more freedom. They give zero shit about what happens to Johnny when he starts gambling on his mommy's card after watching guys like trainwreck and ending up on streets 10 years later.

[virasisog]

It both parties benefited, Twitch and then the streamers, then it will be very difficult to stop the proliferation of gambling in their platform.

But if some government agency stops up the place and give a stern warning on the platform, then maybe they will do something and ban those streamers for good or be on the lookout. But for now, I would say it will continue and it is going to grow big as crypto gambling is now the thing as far as online gambling.

Those streamers are also using their popularity to gain money regardless of what they're promoting. This kind of app is hard to stop especially if they have lots of supporters. It will be helpful if the warning would come from the government but I guess they won't fully control those streaming activities but their warnings and reminders will be a big help.

[acroman08]

I remember seeing an apology video from this dude but I don't that is enough, he needs to pay them back and then apologize again. I'm wondering if the people he borrowed from can file a case against him.

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?

maybe, but I doubt it. gambling isn't the only addicting thing that is being streamed on that platform that affects young audiences and adults.