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April 05, 2023, 09:17:10 PM
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No one would have thought that in the 21st century there would be an idiot at the head of state who would send the country's troops to conquer a neighboring friendly state, while the population of this country as a whole would be happy to kill, rob, rape and torture people in the occupied territories. Putin and his entourage planned to divide the conquered inhabitants of Ukraine into five categories: some would be subject to complete destruction, others deported to remote depressed regions of Russia. Those who went out to protest were planned to inflict maximum injury, and the survivors were thrown into prisons. To do this until the Ukrainians would forget about their nationality. This is the future these Nazis were preparing for Ukraine and allegedly went to Ukraine to destroy Nazism.

That is why there can be no negotiations now until the complete annihilation of the invaders. Any concessions and a truce will be used by Russia to gather new forces and continue to continue as planned. Europe and the United States have already understood this, and therefore Ukraine is being given all possible assistance in its struggle for its freedom and independence.

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April 06, 2023, 10:45:34 AM
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High tension and tension between countries at this time can be a threat of war, in almost many countries the potential for war can occur, so that it will make the economy experience difficult times or recession like the end of world war 2, especially now that the war between Ukraine vs Russia continues to grow and become a threat for other countries to join the war.

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April 06, 2023, 04:16:28 PM
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High tension and tension between countries at this time can be a threat of war, in almost many countries the potential for war can occur, so that it will make the economy experience difficult times or recession like the end of world war 2, especially now that the war between Ukraine vs Russia continues to grow and become a threat for other countries to join the war.
The problem is why other countries have to join the war too? What are the basic obstacles that make other countries also have to go to war, even though as many people know that going to war is not a good solution in terms of solving problems and instead it triggers to create more new problems that can cause a country's economy be destroyed when lost in battle. So I don't think that every country wants to go to war for no good reason at this point.
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April 06, 2023, 04:36:38 PM
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I see this that lets go to war means let us ulter the existence of certain economic progression. Apart from death of people both soldiers and the civilian, it take back the system backward from the party in the war but the effect is more on the people not in the fighting, the world at large. It is effect more on the world as it increase inflation and reduce the living of the people of the world if the countries have major contribution for the world economy.

The effect of war include rising inflation, extreme poverty, increasing food insecurity, deglobalization, and worsening environmental degradation. All the effect here are what we see in the Ukraine and Russia war, example is inflation that is affecting different country in their economy because products going out from Ukraine like wheat or corn leaving out there in small quantity and expensive. Russia is not supplying energy to Europe neighborhood and that slow access to production in the region there and causing life to be difficult.

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Russia is a major supplier of fossil fuels, especially to Europe. Disruptions to supplies of these commodities are driving up prices.

The degradation of environment is also there if war happen and this is major effect on agricultural produce leading into the food shortage and insecurities around that.

There are many negative effect of war but no profit and  rebalancing fiscal priorities could prove quite challenging even in advanced economies.
It's like totally lame that wars are still a thing, you know? The way they mess up economies and societies is like, seriously devastating. After a war, we see all kinds of messed up stuff, like prices going way up, people struggling with poverty and hunger, and it's not just in the countries that were in the war, it's all over the globe. Check out Ukraine and Russia, bro. Their lack of fossil fuels is jacking up prices for everyone in Europe. Plus, wars are mega bad for the environment, making food shortages even worse.

War sucks and all, but there's hope, ya know? Lots of countries are trying to get along and thanks to fancy tech, we can stop fights before they even start. Plus, when countries do fight, they can come together and rebuild with help from everyone else. Yeah, it's hard to balance the money, but governments need to put peace first and invest in tech that can prevent wars. Let's celebrate the progress we've made towards global peace, but we can't get complacent. We gotta keep working together, like a bunch of homies, to make sure everyone can have a chill and dope future.
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April 06, 2023, 08:49:19 PM
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There is a theory that war is beneficial to those countries that do not participate in it.  Especially if they carry out the supply of weapons and other resources to the warring parties. 

Usually destructive wars sober up people, people begin to strive for peace and avoid starting hostilities.  So in the last century there was a powerful anti-war movement in the world, no one wanted a repeat of World War II and the massive use of nuclear weapons. 

When the US authorities began deploying Pershing missiles in Western Europe, many Europeans took to anti-war demonstrations.  And then Mikhail Gorbachev came to power in the USSR and proposed a policy of disarmament...

However, now there is no mass anti-war movement in the world at all.  And all people, in principle, resigned themselves to the possibility of war with the use of nuclear weapons.  And it's very bad.
Beneficial in a sense that they don't need to spent for weapons and other war related expenses but not beneficial in general because when there are wars happening in other countries, other countries are experiencing economic problems. Like for example on the last Russia and Ukraine war, the prices of the oil and other goods are rising heavily.

Anti-war movement is needed. Not only that it will combat the issues in the economy but it can also save a lot of lives. Unfortunately some countries won't join a movement like that because they are war hungry. They think they are strong enough to dominate the other countries. Some countries are only forced to prepare for a possible spark of war.

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April 07, 2023, 06:51:31 AM
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High tension and tension between countries at this time can be a threat of war, in almost many countries the potential for war can occur, so that it will make the economy experience difficult times or recession like the end of world war 2, especially now that the war between Ukraine vs Russia continues to grow and become a threat for other countries to join the war.
The current deplorable situation with peace on our planet and the ability of strong states to attack weaker ones arose due to the fact that international institutions, such as the UN, ceased to fulfill their direct functions and become simply useless, capable only of expressing concern and strong concern.

Russia would not have attacked Ukraine if it had known that civilized countries, and above all the UN, would immediately take effective measures to pacify the aggressor. Russia previously attacked Georgia, Moldova, Ukraine in 2014 and there was no proper reaction from the world community. Therefore, Putin went further, leaving in February last year almost 200,000 of his troops, thousands of tanks and armored vehicles, and other military equipment to seize the territory of Ukraine. He miscalculated only that the Ukrainians would put up a worthy resistance, and only thanks to this, her support gradually began. In the first days of this war, everyone resigned themselves to the fact that Ukraine would be occupied by Russia in a few days, and therefore there was no need for her to help.

Now the aggressor country Russia presides over the UN Security Council, which is sheer absurdity. Moreover, Russia is self-proclaimed in the UN, it has never been accepted as a member of the UN and there has never been a vote for this. After the collapse of the USSR, the representative of Russia only stated that Russia would be the successor to the USSR, but the UN did not take any decision on this matter.

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April 07, 2023, 07:58:32 AM
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Yes, War has serious consequences that go beyond the deaths of soldiers and civilians. It can distort economic progress by increasing inflation, exacerbating environmental degradation, and causing extreme poverty and food insecurity.

The recent conflict between Ukraine and Russia is an example, as disruptions to the supply of fossil fuels and agricultural produce have driven up prices and caused food shortages. The negative effects of war can impact the world at large and challenge the fiscal priorities of even advanced economies.

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April 07, 2023, 11:02:56 AM
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I see this that lets go to war means let us ulter the existence of certain economic progression. Apart from death of people both soldiers and the civilian, it take back the system backward from the party in the war but the effect is more on the people not in the fighting, the world at large. It is effect more on the world as it increase inflation and reduce the living of the people of the world if the countries have major contribution for the world economy.

The effect of war include rising inflation, extreme poverty, increasing food insecurity, deglobalization, and worsening environmental degradation. All the effect here are what we see in the Ukraine and Russia war, example is inflation that is affecting different country in their economy because products going out from Ukraine like wheat or corn leaving out there in small quantity and expensive. Russia is not supplying energy to Europe neighborhood and that slow access to production in the region there and causing life to be difficult.

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Russia is a major supplier of fossil fuels, especially to Europe. Disruptions to supplies of these commodities are driving up prices.

The degradation of environment is also there if war happen and this is major effect on agricultural produce leading into the food shortage and insecurities around that.

There are many negative effect of war but no profit and  rebalancing fiscal priorities could prove quite challenging even in advanced economies.
My dude, it's a harsh reality that some folks think it's all good to say "let's go to war." But let's not forget - wars always end up being a complete disaster for everyone involved, on the battlefield and beyond. They mess up people's lives and can cause stuff like inflation, poverty, hunger, and environmental damage worldwide.

Remember when Ukraine and Russia were beefing? Their conflict ended up messing up other countries too, causing economic chaos and food shortages. That's why we gotta work together and use peaceful diplomacy to prevent wars and find solutions.

War also seriously messes with the environment - the damage to infrastructure, water sources, and ecosystems can screw up agriculture and food production for years. That leads to even more food shortages and insecurity.

It's time to face the facts - war is a total bummer. The downsides far outweigh any potential upsides, you know what I'm saying? That's why we need to put talking and peaceful conflict resolution first instead of always turning to military action. By doing so, we can work towards a world that's more secure and stable for everyone.

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April 07, 2023, 12:42:09 PM
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High tension and tension between countries at this time can be a threat of war, in almost many countries the potential for war can occur, so that it will make the economy experience difficult times or recession like the end of world war 2, especially now that the war between Ukraine vs Russia continues to grow and become a threat for other countries to join the war.
The problem is why other countries have to join the war too? What are the basic obstacles that make other countries also have to go to war, even though as many people know that going to war is not a good solution in terms of solving problems and instead it triggers to create more new problems that can cause a country's economy be destroyed when lost in battle. So I don't think that every country wants to go to war for no good reason at this point.


I think other countries join war too because they have alliances with one country who's at war. Just like UN, UN members have to  to support each other in the event of war. They come to the aid of a friend or because they share the same principle then countries agree to come to each other's aid if one of them is attacked. They join wars to when they will gain benefit from it. For example, they want to gain access to resources or territory or to counter a perceived threat. It sounds selfish to me but considering that those countries have their reasons too, I think they had to.

I was just hoping that if they can, they can just seek diplomatic solutions to conflicts instead.

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April 07, 2023, 12:51:24 PM
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There are negative effects of war but some countries do profit from these situations if all they want is the continuation of war between those 2 or more countries because the advantage-taking countries see that not alone the economy of countries involved in war is being harmed, but also their population will be suffering the nuclear drops' effects on themselves as well as their upcoming generations. This is the worst that can even bring in some deadly diseases which could potentially lead to more deaths being spread all around the globe. The nature is also changing its stream due to what's happening and we are also experiencing that change through earthquakes and unnecessary climate changes.
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April 07, 2023, 03:56:50 PM
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The effect of war include rising inflation, extreme poverty, increasing food insecurity, deglobalization, and worsening environmental degradation. All the effect here are what we see in the Ukraine and Russia war, example is inflation that is affecting different country in their economy because products going out from Ukraine like wheat or corn leaving out there in small quantity and expensive. Russia is not supplying energy to Europe neighborhood and that slow access to production in the region there and causing life to be difficult.

I have always believed that the second world war derailed the development of countries on planet Earth. I have no data to back this up, it is just a belief of mine. I know many significant inventions were introduced during the great war but I just believe how ever developed the world is today, we would have been better without the second world war.


The crisis of the Ukrainian war should give lessons to the countries of the world in working to achieve self-sufficiency while reducing the need for external resources.

Can countries really achieve self-sufficiency? Like they will no longer need any resources from another country? That's not possible. There are countries that are over-dependent on another true and they can work so they are no longer over-dependent on other countries, like the way developing countries are dependent on the West, but in a counter cannot be self-sufficient, they will always need some things from an external country.

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April 07, 2023, 04:00:42 PM
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Unfortunately so War is a chance to correct a system which has jumped rails. Just as our system has jumped rails.
Look at the involved parties, they are all bankrupt. 

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April 07, 2023, 04:14:49 PM
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War has never been a friend to the society and the world at large because if there is war, there is automatically some kind of restrictions of movement and with just that alone, everything economically moves backwards because the right on the freedom movement has been bridged. There are great negative effects of war and war in this context might come in different forms just like the case with the COVID-19 because that was a global war and  the entire world was turned upside down as the disease made life difficult.
War isn't good and there shouldn't be any reason to declare a war especially in this present generation now .

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April 07, 2023, 04:52:08 PM
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War has never been a friend to the society

Society is not a friend to all, there are bundles of beings left out.
Animal kingdom for once, all societies are abusing their suoperiority.

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April 07, 2023, 05:13:35 PM
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I see this that lets go to war means let us ulter the existence of certain economic progression. Apart from death of people both soldiers and the civilian, it take back the system backward from the party in the war but the effect is more on the people not in the fighting, the world at large. It is effect more on the world as it increase inflation and reduce the living of the people of the world if the countries have major contribution for the world economy.

The effect of war include rising inflation, extreme poverty, increasing food insecurity, deglobalization, and worsening environmental degradation. All the effect here are what we see in the Ukraine and Russia war, example is inflation that is affecting different country in their economy because products going out from Ukraine like wheat or corn leaving out there in small quantity and expensive. Russia is not supplying energy to Europe neighborhood and that slow access to production in the region there and causing life to be difficult.

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Russia is a major supplier of fossil fuels, especially to Europe. Disruptions to supplies of these commodities are driving up prices.

The degradation of environment is also there if war happen and this is major effect on agricultural produce leading into the food shortage and insecurities around that.

There are many negative effect of war but no profit and  rebalancing fiscal priorities could prove quite challenging even in advanced economies.
That's true. Wars are obviously bad for any economy unless some economy does war profiteering like the US did during the world war 1. But I feel in case of the Ukraine and Russia thing it's already too late. But your point is right not only does it brings economic disruption in countries in war it also brings losses in some form or the others for the rest of the countries. For example like Whole Europe had to suffer with high gas prices when they put sanctions on Russia.
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April 07, 2023, 05:51:36 PM
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Wat can do many things. It can reduce the worlds population and with it goes our hope to greatest humanity and talents. If you study literature from world war then you will see how war did both things: gave rise to inventions and at the same time saw humanities ugliest destruction faces. Definitely today war is something else. It can destroy the whole supply chain, it can alter the course of technological advancement and stop the economy completely. Forget about inflation, we won’t be having any value to dollar as well if third world war happens. It would be fought for bread and wine.
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I see this that lets go to war means let us ulter the existence of certain economic progression. Apart from death of people both soldiers and the civilian, it take back the system backward from the party in the war but the effect is more on the people not in the fighting, the world at large
War is something I don't think any individual or nation would want to be in. That's why every possible means to avoid it if possible is been sort for but, the need to exercise some form of sovereignty or be in charge of your own territory and avoid influence often makes it in editable in conflict situations and resolutions.
In war, people get to lose there homes and means of livelihood, infrastructures and civilization that took years yo build or developed is reduced to dust in minutes or hours. It's such a hard thing to take. The good thing about it is that, through all these, humanity have been seen to find a way to better ourselves.

After the field is laid plane, an opportunity for new ideas is born and it teaches men to avoid situations that could lead to war at every reasonable cost. I say reasonable because, when your sovereignty is been challenged, it's hard not to result to war.

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April 07, 2023, 10:23:20 PM
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There are many negative effect of war but no profit
I don't think that's true, because I have seen so many guns and armory videos and picks which are neither tested before on humans and Russia is testing those weapons on Ukraine and even Ukraine is getting new technologies to test them on Russia in its counterpart, Overall these countries have become a test base for new weapons and I think that's a benefit for other countries. Plus countries need an alarm or slap that could wake them from doing the mistakes of sleepiness so they could prevent the same mistakes those under war countries made.

No doubt these wars have bad impact not only on warring nations but on the people of nations too. Which is bad, and in this inflation, things will be more difficult to buy for normal people. Like in my country things and goods are not that expensive as compared to European countries but like you guys pay 300$ rent and we pay $30 rent per month but still, we found these prices high why? Because of the devaluation of our money, how's that happening? Due to less employment and more inflation plus the rate of dollar is increasing against PKR (national currency) this has convinced peoples to lose hope or to urge them to earn in dollars but most of the citizens are illiterate to an extent that they don't understand English language then how could they earn dollars to meet there expenses.

The point is, regardless of wars things are way more difficult for our people and when these wars will take place then the saying of Albert Einstein will come true which was "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.". I hope that day never come and people live like a loving and caring couple ( I think I am hoping too much)

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April 08, 2023, 07:30:38 AM
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The impact of war will indeed make the economy collapse, many countries involved in conflict and war will become a poor country, this is because there is no more production, distribution and other business processes, many countries have experienced such bad things and from now on we have to Maintain peace.
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April 08, 2023, 10:48:04 AM
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The impact of war will indeed make the economy collapse, many countries involved in conflict and war will become a poor country, this is because there is no more production, distribution and other business processes, many countries have experienced such bad things and from now on we have to Maintain peace.

That is not entirely true. War will cause damage to the warring countries, but there will be countries that benefit greatly from war. The countries that sell weapons are making billions of dollars, and they never expect the war to end. The longer the war dragged on, the more old weapons they sold, as well as the chance to try out new weapons for customers to see. It can be said that war is not good for the people, but for politicians, it is good for them, they will have more power.
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