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January 24, 2024, 01:54:52 PM
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The second half of January 2024 has  brought an update to Trezor Suite which was elevated  to v24.1.2.
Besides bunch of fixes and minor improvement,  it has introduced relatively new ( to most all HW) feature, namely "wipe code" which is PIN-alike, but instead of allowing the device to enter the sensitive-data-area wallet entirely erases it. Looks like to be good opt at the emergency case.

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January 24, 2024, 03:52:43 PM
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it has introduced relevant new ( to most all HW) feature, namely "wipe code" which is PIN-alike, but instead of allowing the entering data area entirely erases it.
It's a good thing they finally decided to introduce a new method to wipe Trezor devices through Trezor Suite [the "previous method" wasn't that user-friendly and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who completely forgot Trezor already introduced such a feature in the past].
- Out of curiosity, does anybody know why it took them this long to add it to the Trezor Suite?

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Heads up everyone who is using Trezor Suite app, they just released new v24.2.1 pre-release version and there are some major redesign changes, so don't be surprised.
You don't have to install anything yet, this will soon be released in normal release, but it takes some time to get used to new interface that is similar like in Trezor mobile app.
I actually prefer the old style, but new one is more compact, and they fixed some bugs:
https://github.com/trezor/trezor-suite/releases/tag/v24.2.1

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February 16, 2024, 05:19:38 PM
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Too bad that they didn't add any pictures of the upcoming design on their GitHub release announcement so we can see how it will look. I guess all we can do is wait.

I hope they add advanced account information in the new app. I am kind of missing that when comparing the Trezor Suite to Ledger Live. I couldn't find an option to see my BTC account derivation paths anywhere in the Trezor Suite. I know how to find the information on 3rd-party sources taking into consideration the type of account and addresses, but still, it should be something that the native app displays as well. If you have multiple BTC wallets, you shouldn't have to think which one is the 6th and which one is the 7th if you need that specific derivation path.

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I actually prefer the old style, but new one is more compact, and they fixed some bugs:
It'd be nice if there was also a way to choose different themes [e.g. legacy theme].

Too bad that they didn't add any pictures of the upcoming design on their GitHub release announcement so we can see how it will look. I guess all we can do is wait.
You can also join their early access program like @dkbit98, but if for some reason you don't want to [like me Tongue], here's a "sneak peek of the Trezor Suite update 24.2.1".

I hope they add advanced account information in the new app. I am kind of missing that when comparing the Trezor Suite to Ledger Live. I couldn't find an option to see my BTC account derivation paths anywhere in the Trezor Suite.
Here are the steps for v24.1.2:
  • Choose your account > Details tab > Derivation path

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February 17, 2024, 08:13:47 AM
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You can also join their early access program like @dkbit98
No, sorry. I am not interested. I don't like being in any early access, beta guinea pig programs.

Here are the steps for v24.1.2:
  • Choose your account > Details tab > Derivation path
Cool, so they have decided to add that as well. Btw, did you make a mistake with the software version? Should it be v24.2.1 (the current pre-release dkbit98 announced) or v24.1.2?


I am also hoping Trezor can fix that weird bug I discovered the first time I installed the software. Maybe you remember the story. I can't have my computer mouse connected to my laptop while using the Trezor Suite. I can only work with it using the touchpad. As soon as I connect the mouse, I am forced to clicking 2-3 times before the software recognizes my clicks and there is always a delay before that happens. It's been like that since day 1 of installing the Trezor Suite and no software update fixed it.

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Btw, did you make a mistake with the software version? Should it be v24.2.1 (the current pre-release dkbit98 announced) or v24.1.2?
I should've been clearer that I was referring to their latest normal release [my bad (sorry)] and it has been there for a few months [source].

I am also hoping Trezor can fix that weird bug I discovered the first time I installed the software. Maybe you remember the story.
Despite being active at the time, somehow I completely missed your thread but I just finished reading it...

  • I can't have my computer mouse connected to my laptop while using the Trezor Suite. I can only work with it using the touchpad. As soon as I connect the mouse, I am forced to clicking 2-3 times before the software recognizes my clicks and there is always a delay before that happens. It's been like that since day 1 of installing the Trezor Suite and no software update fixed it.
    Just Googled and it appears that you're not the only one experiencing such issues [#1 and #2 (another mouse issue)], so it probably has something to do with Trezor Suite but for some reason, they haven't released any fixes for these rare old issues!
    - Unfortunately, I can't think of anything that hasn't already been said on the other thread but I'll try to dig more into it.

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I should've been clearer that I was referring to their latest normal release [my bad (sorry)] and it has been there for a few months [source].
Excellent. I haven't updated my Trezor Suite version since I barely use it. It's kind of my long hodl, but it's good to know that the developers added this important feature.

Just Googled and it appears that you're not the only one experiencing such issues [#1 and #2 (another mouse issue)], so it probably has something to do with Trezor Suite but for some reason, they haven't released any fixes for these rare old issues!
- Unfortunately, I can't think of anything that hasn't already been said on the other thread but I'll try to dig more into it.
It's 100% related to the Trezor Suite and a weird compatibility issue with my mouse. The moment I run the software, the whole system starts acting weird until I exit Trezor Suite. So, those issues I am experiencing with mouse clicks in Trezor's native software are present everywhere else while the app is running. As soon as I close it, they are gone.

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Here is the new blog article showing how the new Trezor Suite desktop app looks like compared to old version, and you can also see other improvements and changes they made:
https://trezor.io/learn/a/introducing-the-new-trezor-suite

Activity tab was not working correctly for me in new version, and it didn't show any transaction notifications like before, but maybe they fixed that in v24.2.2.
Address poisoning attack prevention was also introduced for improved security.


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Activity tab was not working correctly for me in new version, and it didn't show any transaction notifications like before, but maybe they fixed that in v24.2.2.
That's why I always like to wait with new updates unless it's something major that fixes serious vulnerabilities. And that's not the case with the new Trezor Suite whose biggest change is in the UI. Bugs and errors are expected.

Address poisoning attack prevention was also introduced for improved security.
Not sure how they want to battle that. You can't prevent someone to send crypto to an address, and when they do, that transaction will be displayed in the transaction history. Perhaps there will be an on switch to hide zero value transactions and possibly fraudulent ones or display a warning of a possible poisoning scam if a similar address is noticed or if the second transaction occurred seconds after your own legitimate transaction. Poisoning scams usually appear seconds after you make or receive a normal transaction.   

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You can't prevent someone to send crypto to an address,
Based on the content of their "February update" post, apparently, it'd try to detect and label them to prevent users from copying those addresses [not sure if it'd allow us to remove faulty tags or not].

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Based on the content of their "February update" post, apparently, it'd try to detect and label them to prevent users from copying those addresses [not sure if it'd allow us to remove faulty tags or not].
When the address poisoning scam became known, Tronscan added two options on their website. The first was to hide small incoming transactions from appearing in the transaction history. It affected all transactions valued $0.5 and lower. The second option made risky transactions with unknown tokens hidden from the history overview. Both features do a good job from hiding poisoning scams from even appearing before the eyes of a user.

Apparently, Trezor has taken another route where they wont have them disappear. Instead they will be marked as potentially dangerous.   

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That's why I always like to wait with new updates unless it's something major that fixes serious vulnerabilities. And that's not the case with the new Trezor Suite whose biggest change is in the UI. Bugs and errors are expected.
You can always rollback and install older version of software, this is not the same like updating firmware on device.

Based on the content of their "February update" post, apparently, it'd try to detect and label them to prevent users from copying those addresses [not sure if it'd allow us to remove faulty tags or not].
From what I am reading on address poisoning this is only affecting shitcoins on ethereum, binance and other stupid blockchains like that, so it does not affect Bitcoin at all.
There is a page explaining in details how this attacks are happening:
https://trezor.io/support/a/address-poisoning-attacks

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Apparently, Trezor has taken another route where they wont have them disappear. Instead they will be marked as potentially dangerous.   
In addition to this, they won't allow users to copy/paste these addresses so hopefully, it'd be enough to force users to verify such addresses.

From what I am reading on address poisoning this is only affecting shitcoins on ethereum, binance and other stupid blockchains like that, so it does not affect Bitcoin at all.
Usually, Bitcoin addresses aren't their main target but unfortunately, it could still happen to Bitcoin users [especially when transaction fees are quite low].

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Usually, Bitcoin addresses aren't their main target but unfortunately, it could still happen to Bitcoin users [especially when transaction fees are quite low].
This sounds more like a dusting attack to me than address poisoning, but I could be wrong.
Trezor released another update for Trezor Suite with some bug fixes, and I can report that notifications under activity tab are working again:
https://github.com/trezor/trezor-suite/releases/tag/v24.2.3

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This sounds more like a dusting attack to me than address poisoning, but I could be wrong.
They're somewhat similar, but dust attacks are mainly being used for de-anonymizing a lot of users at the same time while using normal addresses, as opposed to vanity addresses for the latter part.

Trezor released another update for Trezor Suite with some bug fixes, and I can report that notifications under activity tab are working again:
https://github.com/trezor/trezor-suite/releases/tag/v24.2.3
I finally decided to install the latest version from GitHub [not sure why it stopped giving update notifications on Trezor Suite v24.1.2 (I waited for almost a week and I do know it's supposed to roll out in stages, but still...)] and I also prefer the previous design more.

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They're somewhat similar, but dust attacks are mainly being used for de-anonymizing a lot of users at the same time while using normal addresses, as opposed to vanity addresses for the latter part.
Correct. The purpose of dust attacks is to have you spend them with other coins and include them in transactions that reach destinations, such as CEXs, where it could be easier to identify who the owner of the coins is. Also, if you consolidate them with multiple other UTXOs, the sender can keep track of what happens with the dust.

Poisoning scams are there to trick users to copy the wrong address when they are about to send coins/tokens. That's because some people copy receiving addresses from transaction histories and blockchain explorers. If that wasn't the case, poisoning scams wouldn't work.

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there are some new versions of Trezor
since yesterday there is the new 24.3.4 version of Trezor suite with the following new features:

  • The Polygon (PoS) network, along with its native currency MATIC, has joined the EVM compatible networks in Trezor Suite. This integration expands the ecosystem, offering more options for our users.
  • Introducing token definitions to enhance security by distinguishing between legitimate and unrecognized tokens. Additionally, identifying NFT spam in Polygon transactions improves overall transaction clarity and security.

in addition, the settings can now be selected in german, french, and spanish. further new features and bug fixes can be found in the following link:
https://github.com/trezor/trezor-suite/releases/tag/v24.3.4

for all mobilephone users (android & apple), there is also the new 24.4.1 version of Trezor suite lite which you can download here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.trezor.suite
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/trezor-suite-lite/id1631884497


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