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[Koester2]

Regarding Bitfinex, got this one on Saturday.

https://imgur.com/a/Ggje8LN

[HostFat]

Is there an exchange on binance cloud that also offers derivates? Mandala exchange only offer spot trades.

[bettercrypto]

They are all centralized exchanges, they can ask for KYC at anytime.

I use Huobi global and OKX among all.

I was unable to access Huobi global derivative trading until I did KYC. Maybe this has changed

On OKX, I was able to use derivative trading, and able to withdraw to certain amount. I left the exchange for like a month or two. When I went back to the exchange, I deposited some amount of bitcoin. I converted it to USDT. A time came when I wanted to move the USDT to another address, i was asked to verify my mobile number. I was unable to withdraw until I verified my mobile number. I wanted to create a thread about this some months ago when it happened, but I just thought it is not necessary because it is still a centralized exchange.

People should know that using centralized exchanges can come with some inconveniences too like freezing of your coins and blocking of your account. But even if this is not the main discussion of today, there is still the fact that they can freeze your account and demand for KYC compulsorily.

Agree with what you said friend, because of my experience before last year I had an account with binance, it has 2FA, and I am also fully verified on their platform. The time came when I opened my account in binance, I couldn't enter because when I entered the 2FA code it was always invalid, and I chatted with their support and that's exactly what happened.

     Then, I was given instructions and I followed them, but in the instruction that was given, I needed a 2FA code, it's always invalid, so I said maybe I can unbind my 2FA and I was told that it's not possible, now I showed my transactions in binance like deposit and withdrawal and that's uid number, as well as my full name and mobile number, then they gave it to me and what they did was pass me KYC again and then my 2FA was unbinding and I changed it to Authy not google authenticator anymore.

It just means that the centralized exchanges can freeze the account, they can also unbind our 2FA.

[albon]

This list was checked by me personally, yesterday I registered on all exchanges and got the following results. Below is a list of exchanges where you can register an account, generate cryptocurrency deposit addresses, deposit to these addresses, trade and withdraw these funds freely without providing any personal data

A good list, thank you for this great effort in searching and reviewing these platforms and making this most wonderful list, in your list, I am very preferred to use Kucoin, Huobi Global, and Mexc platforms, they explicitly have great advantages & features and good fees and they are among the best trustworthy platforms in the crypto square that a person can trade and withdraw his funds without passing the KYC, I hope that every beginner sees your list and puts it as a reference and a bookmark and deals with these platforms attached to the topic and not others Because of the spread of many other scam exchange platforms. As for me, I do not rely on keeping funds on the central exchange platforms, only I use the best of these exchanges at the time of trading only, and this is a security option for me.

[OmegaStarScream]

Has anyone tried to create an account with Bybit recently? to confirm whether they are still asking users to verify their identity based on their region as mentioned above?

I managed to both create and withdraw funds from my account last month without a problem. I also checked their KYC policy, and it doesn't look like the location of the user matters: https://www.bybit.com/en-US/help-center/bybitHC_Article?language=en_US&id=000001025

Also to update the list: the limits are now 20K (per day) or 100k USD (per month) and not 2BTC.

[albon]

In one of the articles, I found the PrimeXBT platform as the best anonymous exchange platform without KYC requirements. Frankly, I do not see it as popular in the market as the rest of the other exchange platforms in your list @Ratimov. I tried to create an account and could use this platform without KYC, but there are limits. Still, after I checked the FAQ of this exchange, it turns out that the PrimeXBT platform has the right at any time to conduct a verification of the customer's identity or the source of funds to ensure that the user does not violate the requirements of anti-money laundering. Who has tried this platform? Please give your opinions about it. Is it trustworthy?

Exchange	Withdrawal limit per day	Fee for withdrawal BTC	Minimum withdrawal BTC	Other restrictions for users without KYC
________________	__________________	_______________________	__________________	________________________________________________________________
PrimeXBT	0.8677 BTC	0.0005 BTC	--- BTC	---

Source: [1] https://www.guru99.com/best-cryptocurrency-exchange-low-fees.html

[summonerrk]

Has anyone tried to create an account with Bybit recently?

Yes, indeed, ByBit again allows use the exchange without KYC. Right now, after reading your post, I created a new account and the exchange allowed me to create a deposit address, although they used to require KYC:

Although their withdrawal limits are much lower than those of their competitors, who provide the opportunity to use the exchange without KYC, only $100,000 for 1 month.

Exchange	Withdrawal limit per day	Fee for withdrawal BTC	Minimum withdrawal BTC	Other restrictions for users without KYC
________________	__________________	_______________________	__________________	________________________________________________________________
ByBit	20 000 USDT	0.0002 BTC	0.001 BTC	100 000 USDT Monthly Withdrawal Limit

I registered on bybit a year or six months ago, there were requirements for KYC only for p2p, and since there was no p2p on Binance, or I didn't know. Obviously I passed verification. The requirements are the same and remained - checked. I consider Bybit one of the best exchanges.

[OmegaStarScream]

FOR OKX:

- Withdrawal limits: 10BTC -> about ~100K USD.
- Withdrawal fees: they're the same for LN, but higher for on-chain. 0.0002BTC -> 0.00036BTC. I'm not sure if they've only increased them due to the current state of the mempool[1] or if it's going to stay this way so it's probably better to wait a few days to see before you update the topic.

[1] https://mempool.space/

[OmegaStarScream]

I don't quite understand where this information comes from. I checked my unverified Lv.1 account, so there the limits, on the contrary, were increased almost 2 times, to 17.6 BTC:

It looks like filling in personal info is now required. Because it was showing me ~3.6 BTC yesterday (100K USD). Now I logged in, to check the withdrawal page and take you a screenshot... and it's forcing me to pass level 1 account verification (country, full and ID number) to increase my limits to 500k USD (which is ~17.6BTC with the current rate) and to let me withdraw my funds:

[logfiles]

I also remind you that in order to get such withdrawal limits, you need to fill in some data, namely the First Name, Last Name and document number (passport or driver's license), but this is a pure formality, I entered absolutely random sets of numbers and letters and the exchange automatically accepts it.

That's just for basic verification. I noticed it with some other less strict exchanges as well, that allow you to enter random stuff. The problem is, the information you fill in can't be edited in most cases. So one day in the future, they shock you by asking you to update your KYC documents when you are in the middle of a withdrawal and that's when things get quite messy.

[HostFat]

Is there one that accept deposits in LN?

[OmegaStarScream]

Is there one that accept deposits in LN?

Yes. OKX does support both LN deposits and withdrawals but as mentioned above, you now need to complete the Lv1 verification first (full name + ID number).



Alternatively, you can look into this list: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5218464.0

[HostFat]

Yes. OKX does support both LN deposits and withdrawals but as mentioned above, you now need to complete the Lv1 verification first (full name + ID number).

Thanks.
Just to the let you know, the Lv1 data aren't being verified.

[Peach Bitcoin]

If you are interested, you can expand your list thanks to the data from this resource.

- https://kycnot.me/

For the most part, the list consists of p2p exchanges, most of which are ardent opponents of KYC.

[OmegaStarScream]

This just came out[1]. Apparently, starting from May 8th, it's going to be mandatory for Bybit users to complete Lv1 verification (ID + Selfie).

So now, the only decent options are OKX and Kucoin. I'm wondering who's turn next.

[1] https://cointelegraph.com/news/bybit-to-introduce-mandatory-kyc-requirements-starting-may-8

[mishax1]

Huobi may have a 5BTC daily limit, but they set very low limits for each withdrawal like 4000 ALGO (~$800) , so you should be ready for these kind of surprises from them.
Some other coins have less than $100 limits , and ERC20 tokens with $300 limit and a $30 withdrawal fee...





Also this - https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/12sutva/huobi_exchange_silently_removes_trading_pairs_and/

[logfiles]

Huobi may have a 5BTC daily limit, but they set very low limits for each withdrawal like 4000 ALGO (~$800) , so you should be ready for these kind of surprises from them.

It makes no sense having the BTC withdrawal limit at 5 BTC worth $147,660 right now yet algo is just at 4,000. What I have known for some exchanges is that they peg the daily withdrawal limit to either BTC or USD/T

If you withdraw 4,000 algo, the equivalent amount in BTC will be deducted from the daily BTC withdrawal limit to leave you with the limit remaining.

[Saint-loup]

I decided to highlight a list of relevant large and well-known exchanges that provide deposit/withdrawal of funds, and in most cases full-fledged trading, without KYC. The list is up-to-date at the time of the creation of this list and has been personally verified by me, since I am registered on all these exchanges. Only well-known exchanges were used in the rating, I will not add here any nonameEX exchanges with very low liquidity and a meager set of instruments, since there is a high risk of scam.

In the paragraph of other restrictions, I added only what concerns deposit/withdrawal of funds and trading. If you want to fully use any of these exchanges, namely staking, voting, airdrops, launchpads, etc., then you will have to go through KYC.
[...]

As a russian speaker it's weird you haven't mentioned one exchange that has never asked a KYC to anyone AFAIK and that is very unlikely to do it one day : Yobit. Bitfinex(until June 21) is also a very big exchange with large volumes and don't ask KYC for doing common trading there. Hitbtc has a bad reputation and is not reliable but doesn't ask KYC too.
On top of that some exchanges from Switzerland allow to buy and sell fiat without any KYC under $1000 per day/$100K per year thanks to the Swiss legislation : Mt Pelerin, Bity, Relai, Bittr and Peach
https://www.mtpelerin.com/faq/how-to-buy-bitcoin-in-switzerland

[Saint-loup]

You're right Bitfinex was displaying few messages to invite users to verify their account but now they are announcing they will only allow trading without KYC till June 21. I just made a post on their thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=229438.msg62174453#msg62174453
Withdrawals without KYC will still be available after this date from what they say, though.
I just made a withdrawal (to Yobit) there and everything has been quick and smoothly so it seems to still be ok for now.

I understand you don't want to mention the swiss exchanges because they are not very large and famous but if I can make a suggestion I think you could mention as a note at the bottom of your post at least, exchanges like Yobit and Hitbtc because they are very famous and many people will think you've forgotten them. Or you could make a kind of black list maybe.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

I think you could mention as a note at the bottom of your post at least, exchanges like Yobit and Hitbtc because they are very famous and many people will think you've forgotten them. Or you could make a kind of black list maybe.

Mate, why are you suggesting scam exchanges?

Yobit and HitBTC are far from being legit exchanges. If they don't use shitcoins like Yodollar that are created by the exchange to scam users, they will put the deposit and withdrawal wallets under maintenance indefinitely so that traders loose, and they make money or levy very high and unreasonable withdrawal fees on users

If you think I am lying, just check the withdrawal fees of Yobit and HitBTC across different tokens and coins, then compare them to the popular exchanges.
HitBTC has been scamming users in the name of KYC. Just do a small search on the scam accusations board and look at their forum account trust feedback.

Ratimov's move not to include such exchanges in the list is plausible. You have no idea how many newbies and guest users come across such threads while browsing.