It's time to expel Russia from the UN

[Alik Bahshi]

Alik Bakhshi

   It's time to expel Russia from the UN

 
      In 1939, the USSR was expelled from the League of Nations for the unleashed war with Finland. Then the Russians wanted to capture Finland, but they did not succeed, despite the colossal superiority both in the size of the army and in weapons. The small Finnish people turned out to be too tough for the impudent invaders. Russia undertook the same war in 1979, attacking Afghanistan, and again suffered a shameful crushing defeat. The Russians were unable to subdue the Afghan people, who, having no planes, no tanks, no artillery and other modern weapons, drove the Russians out of their land and, I think, for a long time discouraged them from coming back to them with a war.
     The essence of the Russian Empire lies in the fact that for a long time it cannot live without war, and the fact that it came to Ukraine with a war is quite consistent with what has been said. The free world finally understood what Russia is, and after a period of indecision decided to help the Ukrainian people in the fight against the aggressor. The West, having defeated the Evil Empire in the Cold War, made a big mistake helping Russia in the hope that the Russian people will appreciate the advantage of democracy. However, the leaders of the free world did not take into account the mentality of the Russian people (1), which not only rejected democracy, but also tries to restore the Russian Empire within the borders of the Soviet Union, that is, to return the peoples who gained freedom as a result of the collapse of the USSR, again within the empire. (2) The Russian people are ready for any hardships for the sake of this goal, regardless of how the goal will be achieved. And today, the people of Ukraine, having embarked on a democratic path of development, are forced to resist the invading Russian invaders, defending their freedom and independence in a brutal war.

    Thanks to the courage of the people and help in arming the countries of democracy, Ukraine holds back the onslaught of the Russian invaders and even successfully takes steps towards their expulsion, which causes concern in the Kremlin about this circumstance. The blitzkrieg that Putin had counted on turned into a blitzcrash. Putin is absolutely right when he says that defeat in the war is tantamount to the death of the empire, although he modestly kept silent that the same awaits him. Putin, announcing the mobilization, essentially admitted that the initial phase of the war, which he called special. the operation failed. Putin, as a standard of lies (3), stubbornly avoids calling the war with Ukraine a war. It turns out that for his special operations are required for cannon fodder for another 300,000 people. Having told a lie, Putin will not refuse it. Even if the war with Ukraine develops into the Third World War, for him it will remain special. operation.
    Along with this, Putin once again intimidates and warns the West and Ukraine to use nuclear weapons if hostilities spill over into Russian territory. According to this, Putin hurried to hold referendums on joining Russia in the occupied part of Ukraine, thinking that this would stop Kyiv from intending to throw the invaders beyond the state border of Ukraine. Such referendums are a common method for the Kremlin to colonize peoples, if we recall the annexation of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania in 1940. By the way, there was no talk of any protection of the Russian population in the Baltics, as Moscow is presenting it today in connection with the Ukrainian events, which shows how hypocritical and deceitful the policy of the Empire of Lies is. expressed a desire to become part of the USSR. Well, after successful referendums, all three peoples voluntarily move to Siberia at once, and in their place they instill Russians, who today make up 25% of the population in Estonia and Latvia and demand Moscow's protection from the fact that they are finally forced to know the language of the indigenous population.
     As for the nuclear threat, in accordance with the Budapest Memorandum, Russia, Great Britain and the United States, in exchange for Ukraine's renunciation of nuclear weapons and their transfer to Russia, pledged to be guarantors of its independence and sovereignty, which is recorded in the first paragraph of the memorandum:
1. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm to Ukraine their commitment, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the CSCE, to respect the independence, sovereignty and existing borders of Ukraine.

     Russia not only did not fulfill its obligation to defend Ukraine, it also attacked it. The fact that America and Great Britain began to fulfill the obligation in accordance with the first paragraph of the memorandum to protect Ukraine caused indignation in Russia and a threat in their direction.

      I believe that the world community should exclude Russia from the UN and isolate it from the civilized world like a mad dog. It is useless and dangerous to deal with a state in which lies are the foundation of its functioning (5), including interstate relations.
       
 
   1. People's fate or each cricket has its own hearth. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/28564.html
2. Back to the empire, or the restoration of historical justice according to Putin. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/22792.html
3. Measure of lies. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/28027.html
4. The Empire of Lies and its main liar. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/22317.html
5. Lies are the main bond of Russia. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/52550.html

  23.09.2022

[BADecker]

Any honest country wouldn't be part of the UN. What's the matter with Russia that they are hanging in there so long? A little leverage, maybe. But is it worth it? The UN, one of the most corrupt, useless organizations in the world... designed to fool people of participating countries into the idea that there is good in working evil together.

[Alik Bahshi]

Any honest country wouldn't be part of the UN. What's the matter with Russia that they are hanging in there so long? A little leverage, maybe. But is it worth it? The UN, one of the most corrupt, useless organizations in the world... designed to fool people of participating countries into the idea that there is good in working evil together.

Therefore, Russia is doing evil. I have long said that Russia is the Empire of Evil.

[BADecker]

Any honest country wouldn't be part of the UN. What's the matter with Russia that they are hanging in there so long? A little leverage, maybe. But is it worth it? The UN, one of the most corrupt, useless organizations in the world... designed to fool people of participating countries into the idea that there is good in working evil together.

Therefore, Russia is doing evil. I have long said that Russia is the Empire of Evil.

All the nations do evil. But Russia is way more on the side of good than most of the UN nations.

The UN is debt-money backed. Russia is real money backed... gold and silver.

Gold and silver money is what has been going on for thousands of years. It's real and good and honest money.

Debt money has only been going on (in a big way) since the formation of the Federal Reserve Bank (a private company). It's success lies in the fact that it lies about the way it controls, uses and makes (prints) money. It will fail, and fall with a great crash.

But Russia, with its foundational money that is gold backed, will rise above all.

[Alik Bahshi]

Any honest country wouldn't be part of the UN. What's the matter with Russia that they are hanging in there so long? A little leverage, maybe. But is it worth it? The UN, one of the most corrupt, useless organizations in the world... designed to fool people of participating countries into the idea that there is good in working evil together.

Therefore, Russia is doing evil. I have long said that Russia is the Empire of Evil.

All the nations do evil. But Russia is way more on the side of good than most of the UN nations.

The UN is debt-money backed. Russia is real money backed... gold and silver.

Gold and silver money is what has been going on for thousands of years. It's real and good and honest money.

Debt money has only been going on (in a big way) since the formation of the Federal Reserve Bank (a private company). It's success lies in the fact that it lies about the way it controls, uses and makes (prints) money. It will fail, and fall with a great crash.

But Russia, with its foundational money that is gold backed, will rise above all.

That's when Russia will rise say? And when will this happen? Wouldn't it be better to wait, but for now your gold is just a metal that you can't spread on bread

[BADecker]

^^^ Look, until you understand what is going on in the world, you will always have trouble realizing which part of Russia or the Ukraine is really the bad part. This might help you a little. Note that it's about land and money... gold. You can't get much nutrition out of fake fiat fungibles, and the paper it is printed on.

Take a look at history:

Wall Street Funded the Bolshevik Revolution - Professor Antony Sutton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaFklTLNy8c

[Kavelj22]

Since this organization does not provide any cover or guarantee for its members and is subject to the will of the great powers, there is no point in expelling or keeping Russia.

In the past, we witnessed America invade Iraq, and both of them are members of the United Nations, and the organization did nothing but issue statements of condemnation that are of no use. Iraq was completely destroyed, and we did not hear any voice calling for America's expulsion from the organization.

There is no benefit to this organization, and by that I mean the General Assembly and the Security Council. Perhaps the rest of its humanitarian organizations play a much better role.

[paxmao]

The UN is a forum that is intended for dialogue and discussion. The League of Nations was useless and generated the Second World War along with an asymmetric treatment of Japan and Germany by US and others.

Apart from being legally impossible, as USRR and now the RF have veto power and there is not really a mechanism to expel a founding member, there is also an incoherence in expelling anyone from an organisation that is mainly a forum to talk and give a chance to diplomacy. BTW, I strongly disagree with Putin's war.

[BADecker]

Most people don't like war. Let the US and NATO get out of Ukraine so Putin doesn't have to fight to maintain Russia.

[teosanru]

I am no fan of Russia but if countries are removed from UN based merely upon the liking or non liking of a certain set of NATO countries or more prominently the US, then there is no point of UN at all. UN means a forum where everyone can bring their own opinions internationally doesn't means US is always right in his opinion. If US can start Wars in Arabic Countries in the name of their internal safety then how is Russia wrong in doing the same? It's just that they are being too obvious and straightforward about it which obviously other democracies can't be. I just know one thing. War is going on in a lot of countries and every martyr for your country might be terrorist or separatist for the other one.

[Die_empty]

I am no fan of Russia but if countries are removed from UN based merely upon the liking or non liking of a certain set of NATO countries or more prominently the US, then there is no point of UN at all. UN means a forum where everyone can bring their own opinions internationally doesn't means US is always right in his opinion. If US can start Wars in Arabic Countries in the name of their internal safety then how is Russia wrong in doing the same? It's just that they are being too obvious and straightforward about it which obviously other democracies can't be. I just know one thing. War is going on in a lot of countries and every martyr for your country might be terrorist or separatist for the other one.

Although the United Nations have really contributed to world peace, it is still handicapped. Some powerful nations sometimes refuse to abide by the charters and laws of the organizations. Some of these nations are uncontrollable and make key decisions without considering their effects on the weaker ones. In fact, it is the weaker nations that are always law-abiding, while richer and powerful nations are lawless.

Recently Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki accused France and Germany of ignoring the voice of poorer or weaker European nations. He insisted that the suggestions of Germany and France count more than other nations. This is also the case of the United Nations, where the main financiers manipulate the decision of the body.

Expelling Russia from the United Nations might be impossible for now because China is its ally, hence it could block such moves. But does it make any difference? Putin's Russia cannot be controlled by any organization including the UN.
     

[Alik Bahshi]

^^^ Look, until you understand what is going on in the world, you will always have trouble realizing which part of Russia or the Ukraine is really the bad part. This might help you a little. Note that it's about land and money... gold. You can't get much nutrition out of fake fiat fungibles, and the paper it is printed on.

Take a look at history:

Wall Street Funded the Bolshevik Revolution - Professor Antony Sutton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaFklTLNy8c

 And what part of Russia and Ukraine is really bad?

[BADecker]

^^^ Look, until you understand what is going on in the world, you will always have trouble realizing which part of Russia or the Ukraine is really the bad part. This might help you a little. Note that it's about land and money... gold. You can't get much nutrition out of fake fiat fungibles, and the paper it is printed on.

Take a look at history:

Wall Street Funded the Bolshevik Revolution - Professor Antony Sutton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaFklTLNy8c

 And what part of Russia and Ukraine is really bad?

You are trying. A video in English might be a difficult thing for a Russian/Ukrainian to glean any knowledge from. So, I will spell it out for you... as the video says.

The two basic bad parts of both Russia and the Ukraine are the banks and the governments.

[Alik Bahshi]

^^^ Look, until you understand what is going on in the world, you will always have trouble realizing which part of Russia or the Ukraine is really the bad part. This might help you a little. Note that it's about land and money... gold. You can't get much nutrition out of fake fiat fungibles, and the paper it is printed on.

Take a look at history:

Wall Street Funded the Bolshevik Revolution - Professor Antony Sutton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaFklTLNy8c

 And what part of Russia and Ukraine is really bad?

You are trying. A video in English might be a difficult thing for a Russian/Ukrainian to glean any knowledge from. So, I will spell it out for you... as the video says.

The two basic bad parts of both Russia and the Ukraine are the banks and the governments.

I have already said that you are trying to get away from discussing the topic. Here the topic is about the exclusion of Russia from the UN, and not about banks. Be careful. And if you have nothing to say on the topic, is it better to shut up. If you keep commenting like this, I'll just have to ignore you.

[BADecker]

You are trying. A video in English might be a difficult thing for a Russian/Ukrainian to glean any knowledge from. So, I will spell it out for you... as the video says.

The two basic bad parts of both Russia and the Ukraine are the banks and the governments.

I have already said that you are trying to get away from discussing the topic. Here the topic is about the exclusion of Russia from the UN, and not about banks. Be careful. And if you have nothing to say on the topic, is it better to shut up. If you keep commenting like this, I'll just have to ignore you.

There is no significance to the idea of kicking Russia out of the UN. The UN is a BS organization. It exists to steal from the people, and to help countries steal from each other. The only reason Russia stays in the UN is, there might be a little advantage here or there.

Russia is already forming their own grouping of international nations through BRICS. BRICS is stronger than the UN, because it is based on real property trade rather than the US debt currency trade. The only weakness BRICS might have is that it is not nearly as well known (propagandized about) as the UN.

As our conversation wanders in this thread, some of it may seem to not be about the UN or Russia. But all of it exists to show that there isn't anything to the UN. So, as far as Russia goes, it doesn't matter if the UN kicks her out, or lets her stay. The simple sanctions against Russia are far more profound, and have far greater implications, than UN membership.

Or don't you want to talk about the UN and Russia, even though that is the topic of this thread? If not, what are you aiming at here? Are you simply trying to slander Russia? If that's all this thread is about, it really isn't worth looking at. We both have our own UNs, and we don't really need each other.

[Kavelj22]

Since the sanctions imposed on Russia are not adopted by the United Nations, the hypothesis of adopting a resolution to isolate Russia internationally does not make sense to present it at present. Throughout the history of the United Nations, there have always been member states that have been in conflict for years and have not been isolated.

Fears arise from the resignation of one of the countries, particularly Russia, which criticized the state of hostility led by America against it, as stated by Foreign Minister Lavrov yesterday in the General Assembly.

[Cryptock]

Since the sanctions imposed on Russia are not adopted by the United Nations, the hypothesis of adopting a resolution to isolate Russia internationally does not make sense to present it at present. Throughout the history of the United Nations, there have always been member states that have been in conflict for years and have not been isolated.

Fears arise from the resignation of one of the countries, particularly Russia, which criticized the state of hostility led by America against it, as stated by Foreign Minister Lavrov yesterday in the General Assembly.

Haven't the world suffered already too much after putting the sanctions on the Russia?
Now there is another suggestion coming up to remove Russia from UN. There is so much hype about Russia but I am sorry to say no one ever raised a voice against Israel and USA for destroying the lives of so many muslims.

[Alik Bahshi]

Since the sanctions imposed on Russia are not adopted by the United Nations, the hypothesis of adopting a resolution to isolate Russia internationally does not make sense to present it at present. Throughout the history of the United Nations, there have always been member states that have been in conflict for years and have not been isolated.

Fears arise from the resignation of one of the countries, particularly Russia, which criticized the state of hostility led by America against it, as stated by Foreign Minister Lavrov yesterday in the General Assembly.

Haven't the world suffered already too much after putting the sanctions on the Russia?
Now there is another suggestion coming up to remove Russia from UN. There is so much hype about Russia but I am sorry to say no one ever raised a voice against Israel and USA for destroying the lives of so many muslims.

Here you write, but here is another one.

[yhiaali3]

Not all of the Russian people support Putin's policy, so you can't describe the Russian people as an evil people. There are Russian people who reject war and reject Putin's policy, so it's a mistake to generalize.
As for the expulsion of Russia from the United Nations, I do not think that this will solve the problem. On the contrary, it may complicate the problem because there will be no place for dialogue. In addition to all that, the United Nations is an empty organization that does not have any influence on powerful countries. It affects poor and weak countries but it cannot have any effect on strong countries.
Perhaps the solution is to sit at the negotiating table and try to find a solution that satisfies both parties without external interventions that further complicate the problem.

[BADecker]

^^^ It's too bad that there are Russians who don't support the good Putin policies. One of them is free trade using BRICS. Why use the US dollar all the time? Freedom. Free trade between nations, and better than the UN. Kick the UN out of Russia.