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September 26, 2022, 08:11:54 PM
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Not all of the Russian people support Putin's policy, so you can't describe the Russian people as an evil people. There are Russian people who reject war and reject Putin's policy, so it's a mistake to generalize.
As for the expulsion of Russia from the United Nations, I do not think that this will solve the problem. On the contrary, it may complicate the problem because there will be no place for dialogue. In addition to all that, the United Nations is an empty organization that does not have any influence on powerful countries. It affects poor and weak countries but it cannot have any effect on strong countries.
Perhaps the solution is to sit at the negotiating table and try to find a solution that satisfies both parties without external interventions that further complicate the problem.
Like not all American support war. Like not Indian like killing of Kashmiris - like not all jews like killing of people of Palistanie
But people are not the power - it is the government which decides what they have to do. People are only to vote and set aside

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September 26, 2022, 09:42:53 PM
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Not all of the Russian people support Putin's policy, so you can't describe the Russian people as an evil people. There are Russian people who reject war and reject Putin's policy, so it's a mistake to generalize.
As for the expulsion of Russia from the United Nations, I do not think that this will solve the problem. On the contrary, it may complicate the problem because there will be no place for dialogue. In addition to all that, the United Nations is an empty organization that does not have any influence on powerful countries. It affects poor and weak countries but it cannot have any effect on strong countries.
Perhaps the solution is to sit at the negotiating table and try to find a solution that satisfies both parties without external interventions that further complicate the problem.
Like not all American support war. Like not Indian like killing of Kashmiris - like not all jews like killing of people of Palistanie
But people are not the power - it is the government which decides what they have to do. People are only to vote and set aside
Do not forget the government are individual persons who make decisions for many people.
Even with all these we are seeing everyday war after war. Country fighting another country, we need to know that all these things are as a result of hatred or disagreement which had lead to conflict and war between nations.

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September 27, 2022, 02:04:53 PM
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The case against the idea of kicking Russia out of the UN is this...

The UN is a big forum where nations of the world meet to discuss all kinds of things. After discussion, the nations might decide to act together regarding some part of the world. Often such actions help people in places where natural disasters strike.

If we kick Russia out of the UN, we won't get Russia's input. But consider, when you include Siberia, Russia is the largest nation in the world. Why would anybody NOT want to hear what the largest nation in the world has to say?

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September 29, 2022, 01:29:07 AM
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Not all of the Russian people support Putin's policy, so you can't describe the Russian people as an evil people. There are Russian people who reject war and reject Putin's policy, so it's a mistake to generalize.
As for the expulsion of Russia from the United Nations, I do not think that this will solve the problem. On the contrary, it may complicate the problem because there will be no place for dialogue. In addition to all that, the United Nations is an empty organization that does not have any influence on powerful countries. It affects poor and weak countries but it cannot have any effect on strong countries.
Perhaps the solution is to sit at the negotiating table and try to find a solution that satisfies both parties without external interventions that further complicate the problem.

Sure, not all Russians support Putin, but most support him. It is on the Russian people that Putin relies. Putin himself comes from a people with a great-power outlook.
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September 29, 2022, 03:17:17 PM
Last edit: September 30, 2022, 01:10:01 PM by Lordhermes
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The UN has completely failed to uphold peace and order in the international world and has no moral obligation to remove Russia. And it is the UN's main purpose. Russia is defending its citizens from external aggression in a way that the UN is unable to. The UN is being used by powerful nations to subjugate others; the USA has illegally invaded numerous nations without receiving approval from any other nations or the UN. However, if others invade, the UN will intervene quickly to preserve world peace and harmony. The UN should leave Russia alone and address the problems that are generating the invasion rather than trying to stop it by banning Russia from the organization. Nato should instead stop supporting and allow Russia and Ukraine to have another peace talk.
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September 29, 2022, 03:28:10 PM
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Not all of the Russian people support Putin's policy, so you can't describe the Russian people as an evil people. There are Russian people who reject war and reject Putin's policy, so it's a mistake to generalize.
As for the expulsion of Russia from the United Nations, I do not think that this will solve the problem. On the contrary, it may complicate the problem because there will be no place for dialogue. In addition to all that, the United Nations is an empty organization that does not have any influence on powerful countries. It affects poor and weak countries but it cannot have any effect on strong countries.
Perhaps the solution is to sit at the negotiating table and try to find a solution that satisfies both parties without external interventions that further complicate the problem.

Sure, not all Russians support Putin, but most support him. It is on the Russian people that Putin relies. Putin himself comes from a people with a great-power outlook.

Note that it isn't only Russia. The Ukraine is made up of people from the same basic location as Russia. They are the same kind of people.

Also note that the fact that the US is behind the Ukraine push shows that there are power-people all over the place. Britain and the Papacy are a couple of big ones, and the Federal Reserve Bank (in the US) is the same.

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September 29, 2022, 09:55:50 PM
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Note that it isn't only Russia. The Ukraine is made up of people from the same basic location as Russia. They are the same kind of people.

Also note that the fact that the US is behind the Ukraine push shows that there are power-people all over the place. Britain and the Papacy are a couple of big ones, and the Federal Reserve Bank (in the US) is the same.

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the world has seen Russia has survived and those who have imposed sanctions on the Russia are in trouble.
They are in serious trouble do to the their decisions. Winters are arriving and EU is in trouble they are now planning to use wood to produce energy at the moment they have forgotten that they have to support Ukraine- they are not supporting themselves.

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September 30, 2022, 04:09:26 PM
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Note that it isn't only Russia. The Ukraine is made up of people from the same basic location as Russia. They are the same kind of people.

Also note that the fact that the US is behind the Ukraine push shows that there are power-people all over the place. Britain and the Papacy are a couple of big ones, and the Federal Reserve Bank (in the US) is the same.

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the world has seen Russia has survived and those who have imposed sanctions on the Russia are in trouble.
They are in serious trouble do to the their decisions. Winters are arriving and EU is in trouble they are now planning to use wood to produce energy at the moment they have forgotten that they have to support Ukraine- they are not supporting themselves.

The West will survive, but Russia is unlikely. Oil and gas is not only Putin. A lot of money is allocated to find other ways to generate energy. For all the evil that comes from Russia, the Russian people will have to pay and the price will be high.
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Note that it isn't only Russia. The Ukraine is made up of people from the same basic location as Russia. They are the same kind of people.

Also note that the fact that the US is behind the Ukraine push shows that there are power-people all over the place. Britain and the Papacy are a couple of big ones, and the Federal Reserve Bank (in the US) is the same.

Cool
the world has seen Russia has survived and those who have imposed sanctions on the Russia are in trouble.
They are in serious trouble do to the their decisions. Winters are arriving and EU is in trouble they are now planning to use wood to produce energy at the moment they have forgotten that they have to support Ukraine- they are not supporting themselves.

The West will survive, but Russia is unlikely. Oil and gas is not only Putin. A lot of money is allocated to find other ways to generate energy. For all the evil that comes from Russia, the Russian people will have to pay and the price will be high.

US banking oppression against the people of the world is destroying itself. Russia will simply pick up the pieces after the US and its banking are gone.

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Note that it isn't only Russia. The Ukraine is made up of people from the same basic location as Russia. They are the same kind of people.

Also note that the fact that the US is behind the Ukraine push shows that there are power-people all over the place. Britain and the Papacy are a couple of big ones, and the Federal Reserve Bank (in the US) is the same.

Cool
the world has seen Russia has survived and those who have imposed sanctions on the Russia are in trouble.
They are in serious trouble do to the their decisions. Winters are arriving and EU is in trouble they are now planning to use wood to produce energy at the moment they have forgotten that they have to support Ukraine- they are not supporting themselves.

The West will survive, but Russia is unlikely. Oil and gas is not only Putin. A lot of money is allocated to find other ways to generate energy. For all the evil that comes from Russia, the Russian people will have to pay and the price will be high.

US banking oppression against the people of the world is destroying itself. Russia will simply pick up the pieces after the US and its banking are gone.

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Ravings of a madman! The Russian card of the Mir payment system was stopped serving in Turkey. The only country where "Mir" is still accepted is China.
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US banking oppression against the people of the world is destroying itself. Russia will simply pick up the pieces after the US and its banking are gone.

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Ravings of a madman! The Russian card of the Mir payment system was stopped serving in Turkey. The only country where "Mir" is still accepted is China.

Even if you are right about "Mir," a joining of Russia and China is earth-shattering.

Russia is the largest country in the world by land mass. China is the largest country in the world by population. Think of all the open land in Siberia that Russia could make available to Chinese people. Sanctions against Russia in the "Mir" way are only pushing these two countries into the largest alliance the world has ever seen... at least since world domination by the original Tartaria over 5,000 years ago.

https://tekdeeps.com/in-which-countries-do-mir-cards-work-in-2022/

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US banking oppression against the people of the world is destroying itself. Russia will simply pick up the pieces after the US and its banking are gone.

Cool

Ravings of a madman! The Russian card of the Mir payment system was stopped serving in Turkey. The only country where "Mir" is still accepted is China.

Even if you are right about "Mir," a joining of Russia and China is earth-shattering.

Russia is the largest country in the world by land mass. China is the largest country in the world by population. Think of all the open land in Siberia that Russia could make available to Chinese people. Sanctions against Russia in the "Mir" way are only pushing these two countries into the largest alliance the world has ever seen... at least since world domination by the original Tartaria over 5,000 years ago.

https://tekdeeps.com/in-which-countries-do-mir-cards-work-in-2022/

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Yes, after the merger of Russia with China, Russia will disappear. Great China and the Turkic state Turan (Tartaria) will be reborn.
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Even if you are right about "Mir," a joining of Russia and China is earth-shattering.

Russia is the largest country in the world by land mass. China is the largest country in the world by population. Think of all the open land in Siberia that Russia could make available to Chinese people. Sanctions against Russia in the "Mir" way are only pushing these two countries into the largest alliance the world has ever seen... at least since world domination by the original Tartaria over 5,000 years ago.

https://tekdeeps.com/in-which-countries-do-mir-cards-work-in-2022/

Cool

Yes, after the merger of Russia with China, Russia will disappear. Great China and the Turkic state Turan (Tartaria) will be reborn.

That's not disappearing. That's only changing their name and some of their tactics.

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Even if you are right about "Mir," a joining of Russia and China is earth-shattering.

Russia is the largest country in the world by land mass. China is the largest country in the world by population. Think of all the open land in Siberia that Russia could make available to Chinese people. Sanctions against Russia in the "Mir" way are only pushing these two countries into the largest alliance the world has ever seen... at least since world domination by the original Tartaria over 5,000 years ago.

https://tekdeeps.com/in-which-countries-do-mir-cards-work-in-2022/

Cool

Yes, after the merger of Russia with China, Russia will disappear. Great China and the Turkic state Turan (Tartaria) will be reborn.

That's not disappearing. That's only changing their name and some of their tactics.

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Yes, it will soon change so that Russia will not have not only tactics, but also Russia itself.
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Yes, after the merger of Russia with China, Russia will disappear. Great China and the Turkic state Turan (Tartaria) will be reborn.

That's not disappearing. That's only changing their name and some of their tactics.

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Yes, it will soon change so that Russia will not have not only tactics, but also Russia itself.

So, you really think you know the future, eh?     Cool

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Do not forget the government are individual persons who make decisions for many people.
Even with all these we are seeing everyday war after war. Country fighting another country, we need to know that all these things are as a result of hatred or disagreement which had lead to conflict and war between nations.
Government is not even 1% of total population - if the public is strong and they know how to stand up for their right
Government changes their decision
I have seen on internet and social media that people of Pakistan are protesting like crazy for their citizens right - and they are making the government official go crazy

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October 03, 2022, 01:41:17 AM
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Do not forget the government are individual persons who make decisions for many people.
Even with all these we are seeing everyday war after war. Country fighting another country, we need to know that all these things are as a result of hatred or disagreement which had lead to conflict and war between nations.
Government is not even 1% of total population - if the public is strong and they know how to stand up for their right
Government changes their decision
I have seen on internet and social media that people of Pakistan are protesting like crazy for their citizens right - and they are making the government official go crazy

But the Russian people are not capable of active political activity like the Pakistanis.
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October 03, 2022, 04:25:02 PM
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If Russia wasn't limited by the stupidity of the UN, she might be able to get something done.

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October 03, 2022, 08:08:34 PM
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If Russia wasn't limited by the stupidity of the UN, she might be able to get something done.

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Earlier the whole EU suffered because of the sanctions imposed on Russia
But Russia stood tall and survived all the sections - now this other suggestion - of expeling will be more costly. Because Russia is already in a stable position now.

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October 04, 2022, 12:13:50 AM
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If Russia wasn't limited by the stupidity of the UN, she might be able to get something done.

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Yes, only Russia is acting smart, all other members of the UN are stupid. You would have to move to another planet, all Russians on planet Earth do not understand you and therefore they hate you.
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