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All I found is that the withdrawals takes a lot of time, bout 14-20 days
This alone is already more than enough reason to boycott that bookmaker, what would anyone want with a casino that let's your withdrawal request sit there for 14 to 20 days before processing it, such a casino is a timed bomb waiting to blow up, and sooner or later, they would stop paying entirely... I am curious as to what else yoh want to know about mrSloty if withdrawals take such a long time.
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All I found is that the withdrawals takes a lot of time, bout 14-20 days
This alone is already more than enough reason to boycott that bookmaker, what would anyone want with a casino that let's your withdrawal request sit there for 14 to 20 days before processing it, such a casino is a timed bomb waiting to blow up, and sooner or later, they would stop paying entirely... I am curious as to what else yoh want to know about mrSloty if withdrawals take such a long time. a lot of bad things about the reviews site were made by competitors to drop them, so again, maybe the review was made by a cheater who found out to claim a bonus, so we don't know because we are just guessing and reading data from the review site where sometime received payment from competitor (like abel1337 said). and also, Mrsloty is a sportsbook where lots of cheaters to earning money, we are not surprised right?, because who's have been a long time here know what happens on any sportsbook in the past. so I don't want to rush to verdict the site is a scam or not, I have to wait for paxaman to explain the detail of why the withdrawals take a lot of time, maybe he was multi-account and the team found out he was registered using the same of multi IP.
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Sorry If this is not the place to post this.
Did anyone have any experience with mrSloty.com? there are a lot of sportbook markets, but cannot find to much info about that bookie.
All I found is that the withdrawals takes a lot of time, bout 14-20 days
1. Why do you want to try this casino? Any specific reason? 2. Why would you want to play in a casino that has no reputation and no reviews online even though there are so much more better casinos with excellent reputation? 3. Forget 1 and 2, why would you even think of playing in a casino that takes 14 to 20 days to process withdrawals?
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October 01, 2022, 04:55:57 AM |
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Sorry If this is not the place to post this.
Did anyone have any experience with mrSloty.com? there are a lot of sportbook markets, but cannot find to much info about that bookie.
All I found is that the withdrawals takes a lot of time, bout 14-20 days
The answers had been there and I believe it is already complete and there is no need to extend because the withdrawals will bring us problems from this casino so in my view? never to play in some site that in the beginning there is already an issue so why need to ask for this? lock the thread and move on I think.
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October 01, 2022, 10:53:45 AM |
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Sorry If this is not the place to post this.
Did anyone have any experience with mrSloty.com? there are a lot of sportbook markets, but cannot find to much info about that bookie.
All I found is that the withdrawals takes a lot of time, bout 14-20 days
There may be specific reasons for playing at a new casino that a gambler might consider if those reasons were explained. But OP has not mentioned anything here why we can join or play on that new gambling site. So I think it is better not to represent these sites.
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Personally I don't have any experience with the casino you mentioned above, but if the casino have a problem about long withdrawal without any explanation, it's obvious if the casino is high likely either doesn't have bankroll or limited bankroll.
If you're looking for sports book with many events, I think you can consider to play on sportsbet.io since AFAIK it's the most reputable crypto bookie with many events and various sports.
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October 02, 2022, 04:50:44 PM |
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Sorry If this is not the place to post this.
Did anyone have any experience with mrSloty.com? there are a lot of sportbook markets, but cannot find to much info about that bookie.
All I found is that the withdrawals takes a lot of time, bout 14-20 days
If it takes that long to withdraw your money then this itself is good reason for you to stay away from this casino. There is bo excuse for a payment delay like that. Especially when there are casinis like freebitco.in which pays you instantly and automatically. Why even waste your time there? They should get their shit together or wlse they will go bankrupt. Don’t be a victim. When I check Trustpilot for reviews, it's surprising that many people are commenting the same thing about super delayed withdrawals. That only shows that there are still people who play gambling blindly or they immediately play without doing any research if the casino is great to use or not. Freebitco had a Sportsbet but I think the games are limited compared to a real sportsbook site. They also have one casino game which is hi-lo. The OP can try it and see if he is contented with what they are offering. The only advantage of this site is that they can process your withdrawals in an instant as long as they don't suspect your account.
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All I found is that the withdrawals takes a lot of time, bout 14-20 days
This alone is already more than enough reason to boycott that bookmaker, what would anyone want with a casino that let's your withdrawal request sit there for 14 to 20 days before processing it, such a casino is a timed bomb waiting to blow up, and sooner or later, they would stop paying entirely... I am curious as to what else yoh want to know about mrSloty if withdrawals take such a long time. I really have no idea about that site, but wow, that to be processed in 14 days is not worth it, I have something that is like a guideline that I never remove, if a casino presents problems for a withdrawal, you have to do it the magnifying glass, of course more when they are new casinos, it is not reliable and possibly it is scam, because they usually tell you in the support, that they are having problems with the withdrawal part, that they will be processed in 24 hours, that they will be processed in 48 hours , that is a very bad index that indicates that you have to be alert, now with so many days the casino is definitely not reliable and go to another one.
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October 28, 2022, 01:10:31 PM |
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Personally I don't have any experience with the casino you mentioned above, but if the casino have a problem about long withdrawal without any explanation, it's obvious if the casino is high likely either doesn't have bankroll or limited bankroll.
If you're looking for sports book with many events, I think you can consider to play on sportsbet.io since AFAIK it's the most reputable crypto bookie with many events and various sports.
Leave experience aside. I haven’t heard the name of the casino. I am just wondering how these people coming across this shady casinos? Aren’t they are aware of legit sportsbook like stake.com or sportsbet.io ? Without any research and background check, they deposit the funds and later on when the bookie refuses to pay, they just cry and seek for help. Before depositing the real money OP should have atleast asked here in the forum regarding the legitimacy of the site mentioned in the OP, and I am sure many people have helped him to differentiate whether the site is scam or not. Nevertheless it would be great if OP can update us with the status of the case.
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October 28, 2022, 01:21:17 PM |
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Leave experience aside. I haven’t heard the name of the casino. I am just wondering how these people coming across this shady casinos? Aren’t they are aware of legit sportsbook like stake.com or sportsbet.io ? Without any research and background check, they deposit the funds and later on when the bookie refuses to pay, they just cry and seek for help. Before depositing the real money OP should have atleast asked here in the forum regarding the legitimacy of the site mentioned in the OP, and I am sure many people have helped him to differentiate whether the site is scam or not. Nevertheless it would be great if OP can update us with the status of the case.
Not every gambler knows this forum, they only make some research if they already experienced problem with the site they are dealing with. Having that withdrawal time is quiet not good, and alarming if OP still didn't get his funds until now for sure that site is not good and better to avoid it at all cost. I'm also not familiar about it, better to skip this site considering it's reviews.
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October 28, 2022, 03:57:12 PM |
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Sorry If this is not the place to post this.
Did anyone have any experience with mrSloty.com? there are a lot of sportbook markets, but cannot find to much info about that bookie.
All I found is that the withdrawals takes a lot of time, bout 14-20 days
- I haven't tried the mrsloty.com, you mention dude. That's why it takes so long before you can withdraw your assets using that gambling platform, which seems like they don't want to allow their gambling players to withdraw. If what you say is true, probably 100% of the members here in this forum will not attempt to create an account there and deposit their money to gamble there.
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I'm curious about what @OP has done after so much time has passed. Does he keep playing at that casino site or try playing at the other casino we suggest? Many of us also don't know or have never heard of the casino so it's better not to take the risk because it's not worth it. Hopefully, @OP doesn't act rashly just out of curiosity about the site and deposit some money to gamble and end up getting scammed. We don't want @OP to lose his money to fraud.
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October 28, 2022, 06:44:53 PM |
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I'm curious about what @OP has done after so much time has passed. Does he keep playing at that casino site or try playing at the other casino we suggest? Many of us also don't know or have never heard of the casino so it's better not to take the risk because it's not worth it. Hopefully, @OP doesn't act rashly just out of curiosity about the site and deposit some money to gamble and end up getting scammed. We don't want @OP to lose his money to fraud.
If we based on OP's post history, it seems OP didn't push on playing on this site on the subject. No other response is also being made by OP concerning the site. Moving forward, OP played on Playbetr but unfortunately, the experience is not that good for OP because something is violated on the said site's Terms and Service. I didn't follow the case but here's the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5418504
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October 31, 2022, 03:33:52 PM |
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Just as an update, still not received the withdrawal from mrSloty.com, started on 22/09, the reply from support is allways similar:
"We see that your withdrawal request is still under inspection. Although we sincerely apologize for the delays there is the fact that certain steps and aspects of the withdrawal inspection process simply can not be overstepped, accelerated, or skipped. As security is our casino's top priority and since every technical and financial aspect of your gameplay is under loophole delays are simply unavoidable. In cases like these, we are unable to specify the exact date when your withdrawal will be processed. All of this can happen because our financial team has the exclusive right to prolong the inspection process."
Afortunately It was a very little amount
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October 31, 2022, 07:16:05 PM |
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How did you find this bookie/casino? I think I've never heard about this site before, I did a quick look the site but I dont see it as a good site. Some people post a link of their review in trustpilot, although I dont use trustpilot because I dont trust them but I think if there are many similar complaints about long waiting of withdrawal, it is a warn for others to stay away. By the way, why do you want to know about them? Are you interested to use this site or do you have any other reason?
This site is also new to me, and I don’t take risks engaging in new sites as far as money is concern. However, if you heard that withdrawals take a lot of days in order to claim it, then definitely its a red flag for all gamblers. You should never trust those type of sites, instead go for those reputable sports bookies listed here in the gambling boards. That way, you time and money won’t go into waste.
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November 01, 2022, 06:26:23 AM |
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Just as an update, still not received the withdrawal from mrSloty.com, started on 22/09, the reply from support is allways similar:
"We see that your withdrawal request is still under inspection. Although we sincerely apologize for the delays there is the fact that certain steps and aspects of the withdrawal inspection process simply can not be overstepped, accelerated, or skipped. As security is our casino's top priority and since every technical and financial aspect of your gameplay is under loophole delays are simply unavoidable. In cases like these, we are unable to specify the exact date when your withdrawal will be processed. All of this can happen because our financial team has the exclusive right to prolong the inspection process."
Afortunately It was a very little amount
This is just a formal response on their part, besides, it is not of a regular and clarifying nature, so I think if they pay, which is unlikely, it will be good luck for you, be more careful next time when choosing a gambling platform.
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November 01, 2022, 09:19:27 AM |
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How did you find this bookie/casino? I think I've never heard about this site before, I did a quick look the site but I dont see it as a good site. Some people post a link of their review in trustpilot, although I dont use trustpilot because I dont trust them but I think if there are many similar complaints about long waiting of withdrawal, it is a warn for others to stay away. By the way, why do you want to know about them? Are you interested to use this site or do you have any other reason?
This site is also new to me, and I don’t take risks engaging in new sites as far as money is concern. However, if you heard that withdrawals take a lot of days in order to claim it, then definitely its a red flag for all gamblers. You should never trust those type of sites, instead go for those reputable sports bookies listed here in the gambling boards. That way, you time and money won’t go into waste. We can also research them by placing their name on google for sure there are feedbacks written if they have scam accusation posted by certain individual who have bad experience on their site. But also same as you if the site is unfamiliar to me I will not play there and will always go then pick those casino which have good reputation also do so many promotion which can make us feel more enjoy while playing.
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paxaman (OP)
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December 16, 2022, 10:35:15 PM |
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Good news!! Finally after 2 months the withdrawal has arrived. Anyway it has no sense that long delay
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khaled0111
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December 16, 2022, 11:51:04 PM |
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Good news!! Finally after 2 months the withdrawal has arrived. Anyway it has no sense that long delay
Congrats! Glad you finally received your money. But two months to process a withdrawal is too long even if they had to conduct an investigation looking for suspicious activities. Did you contact them during the past two months and asked why it's taking too long to release your coins? Anyway, I think it's better to stay away from them and look for a more reputable casino if you don't want to experience the same thing again.
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December 17, 2022, 03:34:22 AM |
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14 to 20 days for withdrawal? That's a big no for me. Why on earth will I have to wait to 14 to 20 days before making withdrawal? Did I wait upto those number of days when making deposit? Then why will the withdrawal take this long? This is already a red flag for me and just according to the reviews from trust pilot as shown by @oshonsondy, people are already giving a whole lot of negative reviews and I will never take such risk of making deposit or using this casino not even with free money and I hope this casino has a representative here and also seeing the reviews given to them
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