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October 01, 2022, 08:12:34 AM
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I think you should know that your ISP can track your online activities and they know if you are visiting gambling sites on your cell phone and computer. They can give this data to the government anytime if they feel like or if the government demands it. So i hope you are using a paid VPN and you know all the tips and tricks to hide your identity online. It's still not safe to play gambling online if the government had banned it already.
If someone do not have money for paid VPN, he can just use the ones like ProtonVPN, there are free part of it that people can enjoy, but the servers available can be congested at times, but with no ads. But most free VPN are not advisable because of ads and they are not secure and safe at all.

Before using a VPN for a gambling site, better to check it on the gambling site terms and conditions before using it. As for me, I can not use VPN for gambling, but gambling is legal in my country.

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October 01, 2022, 08:23:07 AM
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Thing is gambling isn't the only thing I have in terms of having fun or just chilling. Heck I've actually lowered the amount of times I've gambled recently since other stuff has been taking up a huge part of my time. I don't think it would affect me that much, it might be similar to me finishing a long game after so long and having that temporary emptiness of not being able to play it again kind of thing.

Not that it matters though, A lot of countries have gambling banned but it still thrives off in the underground market, so banned or not, gambling will always exist. It just culls the casinos that are open to the public but they can simply swap to going hidden instead.

 
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October 01, 2022, 08:30:05 AM
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  A new government came into power, and enacted a law that nobody should gamble anymore in the country i.e gambling becomes illegal. Will you just behave yourself and abide to this new law that is depriving you from having fun as a good citizen ? or will you ignore the law and keep on gambling since there are online casinos that you can gamble secretly with your mobile phones with out no one knowing ?

It is really hard to imagine that the government would block gambling and make it illegal overnight in my country. I am living in a very free and open country, where the red light district is regulated and not illegal, same goes for drugs. Over the last 5 years the government kept lowering the prison sentences for drug offenders in an effort to decriminalise smaller drug offences. The main focus is personal freedom which makes it so hard to imagine that gambling would be banned suddenly.  To be honest I would probably not stop gambling and start looking for ways to circumvent the ban online and keep gambling. Being a good citizen is one thing, but this usually means you understand the motivation behind the laws of the government. And a outright ban on gambling doesn't seem fair in my eyes. If they try to regulate the sector more it's okay, but banning things we enjoy doing is the wrong way. What I would not do is gambling with my mobile phone in public, the risk of other people seeing it and maybe calling the police on me would be too big.
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October 01, 2022, 08:43:06 AM
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This question is has already answered itself. We live in an age and time where the only the only restriction which the government of a country can put in place is the ban on vehicular and personnel movement. Aside this, as long as whatever you need to do is on the internet the government can do nothing. We already know that there are sophisticated software that can bypass whatever online restriction is in place. In the case of gambling, if ever there is a restriction, gamblers will always find a way.

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October 01, 2022, 08:56:58 AM
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This question is has already answered itself. We live in an age and time where the only the only restriction which the government of a country can put in place is the ban on vehicular and personnel movement. Aside this, as long as whatever you need to do is on the internet the government can do nothing. We already know that there are sophisticated software that can bypass whatever online restriction is in place. In the case of gambling, if ever there is a restriction, gamblers will always find a way.
Not is uncontrollable now, the government will just get tired of regulating casinos or even banning them because of new technologies that can use to bypass connections unnoticed.  Now, it was an individual consideration if they will fall and get addicted to gambling or not, it was not the government who will be blamed for whatever happened to these gamblers. As we are old already in this particular, I think we don't need help from the government but it was us to help ourselves back and think about what is better.
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October 01, 2022, 10:08:34 AM
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My country restrict with all gambling site and several casino gambling website are banned and can't access without change with IP access trough used VPN or modify with DNS IP address, I don't think many people in my country stop for gambling because with easy rule without need KYC and gambling site still can access well what happen did by government restrict still not impact for my country gambler. I think not coming from government restrict about gambling but also depending our self to stop active on gambling or not, if have been our habit I think difficult to stop although illegal by government.

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October 01, 2022, 10:36:57 AM
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This question is has already answered itself. We live in an age and time where the only the only restriction which the government of a country can put in place is the ban on vehicular and personnel movement. Aside this, as long as whatever you need to do is on the internet the government can do nothing. We already know that there are sophisticated software that can bypass whatever online restriction is in place. In the case of gambling, if ever there is a restriction, gamblers will always find a way.

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October 01, 2022, 11:55:26 AM
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If the government has enacted a law to prohibit gambling then I will comply with the regulation because if the law has been enacted then we will definitely feel the law if the government knows our work as online gamblers, although there are many results that we get but the risks we have to accept are also very threatening to our future, so I prefer other ways to be able to get an advantage other than by doing  gambling, and currently there are many other ways that we can do besides gambling, but this all depends on our respective principles.

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October 01, 2022, 12:27:42 PM
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More rules make a country more corrupt.

People will always find another way (alternative) to do what they like to do! In this case, I guess a good VPN and crypto casino that doesn't require KYC is a good solution for bypassing government rules. Pretty easy and simple.
As long as you are willing to take risk just to gamble, you are free to do this but of course not every gambler will take such risk especially if there's a strong law that prohibit everyone from getting involve in gambling with a huge punishment once caught. I won't suggest any of this, this is too risky and I'm sure you don't want to get punish. For now, all you can do is to focus your attention in other things, wait for a new government to amend this law because for sure they will lose a lot of money at certain point if they continue to banned gambling, there's still a hope for this.
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October 01, 2022, 12:36:10 PM
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Honestly gambling is heavily regulated in my country but we have gambling-free state called North Cyprus (I know Europeans don't recognize it but Turks can go there to freely gamble with IDs). I think that Cyprus option will always be enabled. Our government knows how much tax money gambling can generate. People should inform their governments with it to convince them never outlaw gambling.
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October 01, 2022, 02:32:50 PM
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More rules make a country more corrupt.

People will always find another way (alternative) to do what they like to do! In this case, I guess a good VPN and crypto casino that doesn't require KYC is a good solution for bypassing government rules. Pretty easy and simple.
As long as you are willing to take risk just to gamble, you are free to do this but of course not every gambler will take such risk especially if there's a strong law that prohibit everyone from getting involve in gambling with a huge punishment once caught. I won't suggest any of this, this is too risky and I'm sure you don't want to get punish. For now, all you can do is to focus your attention in other things, wait for a new government to amend this law because for sure they will lose a lot of money at certain point if they continue to banned gambling, there's still a hope for this.

As long as the risk won't heavily affect you then you can still enjoy gambling by your own means. There are still regulations that don't restrict gambling that much and gamblers can still gamble with limits. Lucky are those who are able to seek alternatives despite their country's restrictions against gambling.
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October 01, 2022, 03:37:21 PM
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Honestly gambling is heavily regulated in my country but we have gambling-free state called North Cyprus (I know Europeans don't recognize it but Turks can go there to freely gamble with IDs). I think that Cyprus option will always be enabled. Our government knows how much tax money gambling can generate. People should inform their governments with it to convince them never outlaw gambling.
In some countries there are regulations or legalities that are aimed at gamblers so this can be a good economic source because the funds collected from taxes can be used to improve the city's economy and infrastructure, if the government thinks like that, but it all depends on those who regulate its urban environment because not all countries provide freedom for gambling.
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October 01, 2022, 03:56:49 PM
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You are a core gambler,I mean you have a reserved or particular time that you use in gambling everyday, just the way some of us are,we even add gambling expenses to our monthly budget because we gamble to entertain ourselves.
  A new government came into power, and enacted a law that nobody should gamble anymore in the country i.e gambling becomes illegal. Will you just behave yourself and abide to this new law that is depriving you from having fun as a good citizen ? or will you ignore the law and keep on gambling since there are online casinos that you can gamble secretly with your mobile phones with out no one knowing ?
not sure about others but I'd probably be fine with it. there are other engaging things that could be an alternative to gambling(at least for me). I'd probably still miss gambling though.

anyway, knowing how much gambling tax helped my country during the height of the pandemic, I am not sure there will be someone who'd want to take that part of revenue away from the country.

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October 01, 2022, 04:25:54 PM
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Gambling is already a punishable offense in my country.  And if anyone openly gambles offline then the police arrest him.  However, there are many gamblers in our country who gamble secretly and online gambling platforms are very popular for them because here they can gamble secretly at home. So I think those who love gambling will go through all the government hurdles and continue gambling secretly.

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October 01, 2022, 04:31:32 PM
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Gambling is already a punishable offense in my country.  And if anyone openly gambles offline then the police arrest him.  However, there are many gamblers in our country who gamble secretly and online gambling platforms are very popular for them because here they can gamble secretly at home. So I think those who love gambling will go through all the government hurdles and continue gambling secretly.
There are illegal gambling activities that are prohibited in my country, there are also spots location for physical gamblers  that are continuously surveyed as often used to do gambling not permitted by governments but there are casino that legally operates. When it comes in online gambling if the government is not yet that advanced it will not detect online gambling websites unless it is reported or get too hyped that many users became addicted into it. Detecting online activities in my country is still not too wide that many are still able to play online any games they want.

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October 01, 2022, 07:25:48 PM
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Gambling is already a punishable offense in my country.  And if anyone openly gambles offline then the police arrest him.  However, there are many gamblers in our country who gamble secretly and online gambling platforms are very popular for them because here they can gamble secretly at home. So I think those who love gambling will go through all the government hurdles and continue gambling secretly.
I don't think it could be a good thing that gamble secretly by  ignoring the rule of government. Even then they are getting punished for doing this so it is also a risky thing to doing and what you are saying about playing gamble is good not looking good think  we saw only 10\9 in  so it will be better if you are follow they rules of your country .

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October 01, 2022, 09:12:46 PM
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Suicide rates have a direct connection with this industry in gambling-allowed countries, the governments try to protect the population from bad habits that can be overkill in case of becomes uncontrolled, IMHO. Authorities and regulators should put strict rules for not allowing people under 21 to gamble and the deposit conditions should be tightened for those who gamble regularly. Maybe this method will have effects in the future, it kinda depends on the rules in that country.
That's very common for gambling allowed countries to have a rule that below 21 years old are not allowed to gamble in a casino but it doesn't mean that it will stop them from trying to gamble illegally since they're under the age to gamble without consequences of getting to jail. There will be always people who will gamble secretly even though gambling is illegal in their country. We really can't help to stop all of it.

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October 01, 2022, 09:40:45 PM
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Suicide rates have a direct connection with this industry in gambling-allowed countries, the governments try to protect the population from bad habits that can be overkill in case of becomes uncontrolled, IMHO. Authorities and regulators should put strict rules for not allowing people under 21 to gamble and the deposit conditions should be tightened for those who gamble regularly. Maybe this method will have effects in the future, it kinda depends on the rules in that country.
That's very common for gambling allowed countries to have a rule that below 21 years old are not allowed to gamble in a casino but it doesn't mean that it will stop them from trying to gamble illegally since they're under the age to gamble without consequences of getting to jail. There will be always people who will gamble secretly even though gambling is illegal in their country. We really can't help to stop all of it.
There's no way of stopping it specially when you are already get addicted to it and also just like on other things such as vices like alcohol and cigarette which even if it would really be banned
then for sure people would be finding a way on exploiting out as long they could able to get one and cater out their addiction.Same goes with gambling which people could really make out dealings right away
considering that accessibility and easy way on engaging on online things is simple.You do need some device and then internet then you're good to go.High chance that you wont really be that getting
caught and since we do have that VPN then it do really make things even more easier and thats why its totally not 100% that people could be stopped.

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October 01, 2022, 09:59:11 PM
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You are a core gambler,I mean you have a reserved or particular time that you use in gambling everyday, just the way some of us are,we even add gambling expenses to our monthly budget because we gamble to entertain ourselves.
  A new government came into power, and enacted a law that nobody should gamble anymore in the country i.e gambling becomes illegal. Will you just behave yourself and abide to this new law that is depriving you from having fun as a good citizen ? or will you ignore the law and keep on gambling since there are online casinos that you can gamble secretly with your mobile phones with out no one knowing ?

I don't want to violate the laws in any way so my take will be changing the mind and go for other entertainment options or fight legally to bring back with valid reason why it shouldn't be banned in your country.

And you have wrong thoughts about online casinos, every legal casinos will not allow people from banned country in their casinos and you can clearly see which country residents are restricted from using their services in their terms of service. If you are still gambling you are also violating the terms of casino and your funds are under risk as well.
Any violation would come up with consequences and its no brainer that you would really be definitely be penalize once you do get caught but if deep inside you do know that
they cant just easily catch you and you are that too addicted with gambling then pretty sure, you would just simply play anytime you do want and everywhere you do like.
Changing up someones mindset when it comes to gambling will vary on the level of addiction that you do have.If you do really have that kind of emotion
where you do need to play badly then you would definitely push through it.
Even if the government can't find the people who is abusing the laws that is why they let the service provider to do the job, here the gambling platform has their right to decline any winning amount from the user who won from a place where their service is not allowed and the new KYC kind of screening system won't let anyone to stay under the radar forever. So the choices will become limited and probably there are high chances to end up choosing the scam casino and lose the money.
Possible but not likely the case since not every platform are really that strict when it comes into those players who do make use of VPN or other ways or methods for them to access.
If gets caught then a certain user wouldnt be having other reason for making those alibis which is clearly that they had violated a rule.This is why most of those people who
get caught will really be just moving on since they do know that they are at fault.There's no way that you could fight on or make out argumentation.
Providers might not or might really be that strict on imposing rules specially into those people who do play on restricted areas or countries.

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October 01, 2022, 10:44:45 PM
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There's no way of stopping it specially when you are already get addicted to it and also just like on other things such as vices like alcohol and cigarette which even if it would really be banned
then for sure people would be finding a way on exploiting out as long they could able to get one and cater out their addiction.Same goes with gambling which people could really make out dealings right away
considering that accessibility and easy way on engaging on online things is simple.You do need some device and then internet then you're good to go.High chance that you wont really be that getting
caught and since we do have that VPN then it do really make things even more easier and thats why its totally not 100% that people could be stopped.

Well being addicted is another story.  If a person is already a gambling addict, no matter how the government strictly implement a gambling ban, that addicted person will find ways to gamble because he already has the uncontrolled urge to gamble.

And now with the internet, this person can easily bypass the government ISP restriction through the use of VPN as what you stated.  It is really complicated and hard for the government to trace people especially when the government lack resources and skilled personnel to do the tracing or tracking task.
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