Casino games plebs like us must play

[LUCKMCFLY]

Am a casino pleb myself, but I disagree with your advice about playing games only with the lowest house edge. Why? Because house edge isn't everything. Some of my biggest wins were from games with high house edge.

Games which I usually play are slots, Baccarat, sports betting etc where the house edge varies between them to a large degree. Fun > House edge in my opinion.

I am with you on this, house edge should not be total, I was so amazed when I was reading what the OP wrote as if it was a fixed budget affair. Dice rolling and casinos, in general, do not work like that as nothing works 100% with gambling, but to just follow someone's mind/instincts and variable approaches, is not fixed advice from anyone.

No one should be total in a certain approach to gambling and must find a way to play based on what their minds are telling them at that current time.

Each player has his own way of seeing things, according to his experience and according to what he has lived, obviously a person who has so much experience and who has managed to win in a casino with a great advantage is something that should be respected and take into account their opinion to learn, and also to see that their opinion is the most accurate, a casino that has a normal advantage is something that many players accept, others that have a higher one already depends a lot on the player's budget, and Sometimes it can be seen that each player has his preference in casinos, if there is someone who really likes a particular casino, obviously he will go there even if the advantage is high, and if he likes slots and enjoys them, it is something that the same will take advantage of it.

If anyone wants to learn how to play Craps, you can practice for fun without risking your own coins through BetPlay's casino, https://betplay.io/en/casino/play/1547/first-person-craps/fun

There's no requirement to log in, or to register for an account. You can just go to that link, and click/tap "play for fun", then it will take you to the table. The game is in "easy mode", and it highlights which numbers will give you a win, or a lose, depending where you place the bets.

It is a great option, the truth is that craps is a game that very few people play because they do not understand it very well, but it is pure gold that you have brought it here, I did not know that you could practice it there, Betplay has great options to have good participation, I haven't checked the betplay thread much, but I imagine they also have contests related to Halloween? this type of casinos that are very good generally have options to take advantage of the times, what you indicate here to practice craps is that it maintains or can maintain anonymity, there is no login requirement or something like that to be able to participate , is excellent.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Thank you OP for the insight, ive never played any of the two games you mentioned, ive always focused on games provided by pragmatics and evolution or something of some sort, forgive me if i happen to be mixing things up, sometimes, i get really confused with all this stuffs.

I will try my luck on craps and see how it goes, win or lose, i will gladly appreciate the fun at the the end of it all, gambling  doest have to be about winning all the time, sometimes, it a great way to make time run faster.

And about being a pleb, for myself, i wont dispute this, cus i am like a NG(new guy) OG(old guy) in gambling, ive been gambling for quite some years now and ive not really learnt much about it, neither have i won any significant amount of money from it, so i think i agree with you.

[delfastTions]

Each player has his own way of seeing things, according to his experience and according to what he has lived, obviously a person who has so much experience and who has managed to win in a casino with a great advantage is something that should be respected and take into account their opinion to learn, and also to see that their opinion is the most accurate, a casino that has a normal advantage is something that many players accept, others that have a higher one already depends a lot on the player's budget, and Sometimes it can be seen that each player has his preference in casinos, if there is someone who really likes a particular casino, obviously he will go there even if the advantage is high, and if he likes slots and enjoys them, it is something that the same will take advantage of it.

I would like to add one more thing to your opinion.  

The fact is that as you gain experience in the game, almost all players begin to experience changes in their preferences.  Many games become uninteresting and vice versa others begin to attract more and more.  And by the way, almost any new game gives a person a new experience.  And the player can gradually improve their skills.  
By the way, the experience of games that you are tired of playing can also be very useful.  
All this is a necessary process in striving for the professionalism of the player, when he begins to foresee the probabilities of events with some strange feeling and, accordingly, make bets,

[Wind_FURY]

Each player has his own way of seeing things, according to his experience and according to what he has lived, obviously a person who has so much experience and who has managed to win in a casino with a great advantage is something that should be respected and take into account their opinion to learn, and also to see that their opinion is the most accurate, a casino that has a normal advantage is something that many players accept, others that have a higher one already depends a lot on the player's budget, and Sometimes it can be seen that each player has his preference in casinos, if there is someone who really likes a particular casino, obviously he will go there even if the advantage is high, and if he likes slots and enjoys them, it is something that the same will take advantage of it.

I would like to add one more thing to your opinion.  

The fact is that as you gain experience in the game, almost all players begin to experience changes in their preferences.  Many games become uninteresting and vice versa others begin to attract more and more.  And by the way, almost any new game gives a person a new experience.  And the player can gradually improve their skills.  

By the way, the experience of games that you are tired of playing can also be very useful. All this is a necessary process in striving for the professionalism of the player, when he begins to foresee the probabilities of events with some strange feeling and, accordingly, make bets.

I believe if the games a person plays is always simple games of "gamble/games of chance" without involving any strategy, then those games could become uninteresting especially if that person always loses. Because what's captivating in playing a game like slots everyday of your life, for hours and hours during the day or night, without encouraging strategy?

[serjent05]

I believe if the games a person plays is always simple games of "gamble/games of chance" without involving any strategy, then those games could become uninteresting especially if that person always loses.

Indeed people play games according to their preferences.  Any games of chance don't have any successful strategy so why think hard to create a strategy that won't be successful in the end?  There is also this gambling point where our favorite or preferred game becomes toxic to the point we lost interest and even cursed it.

Because what's captivating in playing a game like slots everyday of your life, for hours and hours during the day or night, without encouraging strategy?

Well playing without strategy doesn't stress our minds.  This is one good thing about slots if we are playing to entertain ourselves.  We accept the lose of money in exchange for some relaxing entertainment.

[Pandu Geddon]

Well playing without strategy doesn't stress our minds.  This is one good thing about slots if we are playing to entertain ourselves.  We accept the lose of money in exchange for some relaxing entertainment.

those who play for fun, don't think too much about winning strategies. but some players who focus on winning the game of course like to make plans in betting.
succeed or not, who knows?
Making plans does stress our minds. especially when plans don't work. The plan in gambling is almost the same as the plan in trading. both have the potential to make us stressed.

[ethereumhunter]

You can take OP's advice and play it safe with a game with a very low house edge or you can slightly increase your risk and play in-house casino games like Stake.com originals with more or less the same house edge and have more fun. 

Gambling should be entertainment.. not a method to make profit or to play it safe all the time. The 3rd party Slot providers have a higher house edge, but they are a lot more fun than playing BlackJack and Craps for hours on end. 

Just enjoy the experience and get the adrenaline pumping, by playing games with a house edge of between 3% and 4% and higher variance.... because you might just win the big one.  (Example : Hacksaw Gaming) 

When we think about it makes sense to try to look for games with a low house edge so we can gamble for a little bit longer, but what it is the point of doing such a thing if we are not obtaining any fun? Gambling should always be done for entertainment purposes and if we have to pay a little bit more to obtain the fun we are looking for then so be it, in the end it does not matter if we spend a few more dollars as long as we still have our gambling under complete control.

Well, it will depend on which one will give pleasure to each gambler because they will have their favorite game. And for the amount of bets they will use will also depend on how much money they deposit into their account. If they always remember gambling is just for entertainment and fun, they will not treat gambling as a way to make money. They will only spend their time playing gambling; as soon as they get it, they will stop and leave it.

Well, I think something, whatever the game, whether it has a lot or a little risk, games of chance always point in the same direction, if you choose a game with little risk, the chances of losing in the long term are imminent, maybe Sometimes low risk games are won on many occasions but when very large bets are made I think things will balance out and obviously it will go in favor of the house, that detail can never be forgotten, whoever plays believing that they can beat the house Well, it's very bad, this is something that many players want to achieve and it's not very smart, at least I know that many see it that way, but the results will never be favorable for the player.

Gamblers who have often gambled will know whether they will choose a game with small or big risks and will see how much money they will use to place a bet. And if they want to play a little longer, maybe placing a small bet for each spin will be more valuable than placing a large bet right away because they can play and may have luck in a certain amount of time. And very often, we see that if people place large bets, they will only lose all their money in a short time if they are unlucky. But indeed, the temptation to get bigger wins will be there so many of them decide to use large amounts of betting money. That is why we must know how to manage the risks of playing gambling so we do not experience big losses.

[BitcoinPanther]

Well playing without strategy doesn't stress our minds.  This is one good thing about slots if we are playing to entertain ourselves.  We accept the lose of money in exchange for some relaxing entertainment.

those who play for fun, don't think too much about winning strategies. but some players who focus on winning the game of course like to make plans in betting.
succeed or not, who knows?
Making plans does stress our minds. especially when plans don't work. The plan in gambling is almost the same as the plan in trading. both have the potential to make us stressed.

I think planning works well on gambling but creating strategy to win does not.   It will only make us frustrated.  To think that we spend lots of time and didn't sleep that night preparing for the strategy and approach we can do just to increase our chance of winning but in the end it isn't effective at all.  I wonder how much load of stress is weighing on that player mind if all of his strategy planning does not work even a little in the game he played.

Each player has his own way of seeing things, according to his experience and according to what he has lived, obviously a person who has so much experience and who has managed to win in a casino with a great advantage is something that should be respected and take into account their opinion to learn, and also to see that their opinion is the most accurate, a casino that has a normal advantage is something that many players accept, others that have a higher one already depends a lot on the player's budget, and Sometimes it can be seen that each player has his preference in casinos, if there is someone who really likes a particular casino, obviously he will go there even if the advantage is high, and if he likes slots and enjoys them, it is something that the same will take advantage of it.

Well, experienced player should be respected and we must give weight to what they are saying but I don't think their opinion is the most accurate.  The can be relevant but of course their game strategy is different from us so there might be some variation.

[Saint-loup]

If anyone wants to learn how to play Craps, you can practice for fun without risking your own coins through BetPlay's casino, https://betplay.io/en/casino/play/1547/first-person-craps/fun

There's no requirement to log in, or to register for an account. You can just go to that link, and click/tap "play for fun", then it will take you to the table. The game is in "easy mode", and it highlights which numbers will give you a win, or a lose, depending where you place the bets.

Thank you for sharing this tip with us. It's nice to know that because unfortunately very few casinos allow to play in Fun mode to the First Person games from Evolution. So it's a good thing to see Betplay offering this feature to all people, even if they are not registered there. It's not so easy to understand all rules from craps because it's a game rarely available in european, asian and even south american casinos, so practicing it before gambling real money is a good advice IMO.
BTW do you understand why Seven pays less than Craps (4:1 vs 7:1) ? 

[DoublerHunter]

Well playing without strategy doesn't stress our minds.  This is one good thing about slots if we are playing to entertain ourselves.  We accept the lose of money in exchange for some relaxing entertainment.

those who play for fun, don't think too much about winning strategies. but some players who focus on winning the game of course like to make plans in betting.
succeed or not, who knows?
Making plans does stress our minds. especially when plans don't work. The plan in gambling is almost the same as the plan in trading. both have the potential to make us stressed.

^Because there are some people who are too greedy thinking of profit and take advantage sometimes of the gambling casino.
These kinds of people are everywhere, instead of gambling for fun, they gamble to make money and live it for it and also for a living. I believed that there is no strategy in a game, just gamble and measure your luck and once it was not there, take a break and come back when you are ready again and possibly your luck will be followed.

[Genemind]

Well playing without strategy doesn't stress our minds.  This is one good thing about slots if we are playing to entertain ourselves.  We accept the lose of money in exchange for some relaxing entertainment.

those who play for fun, don't think too much about winning strategies. but some players who focus on winning the game of course like to make plans in betting.
succeed or not, who knows?
Making plans does stress our minds. especially when plans don't work. The plan in gambling is almost the same as the plan in trading. both have the potential to make us stressed.

^Because there are some people who are too greedy thinking of profit and take advantage sometimes of the gambling casino.
These kinds of people are everywhere, instead of gambling for fun, they gamble to make money and live it for it and also for a living. I believed that there is no strategy in a game, just gamble and measure your luck and once it was not there, take a break and come back when you are ready again and possibly your luck will be followed.

I do agree, most of my wins playing casinos are when I'm not putting all my thoughts on the game and just enjoying it. The more you think of winning the more disappointed you are with the outcome. I don't believe in perfect strategy in gambling, by the end of the day your luck will decide if you win or not. House edge and strategy can be a factor, but overall luck is a big part in playing in casinos. With that being said, it's more fun gambling if you enjoy playing the games you are familiar with, it might be against your real objective why you played, which is to gain profit, but it is less stressful if you have this kind of mindset.

[Poker Player]

I don't believe in perfect strategy in gambling, by the end of the day your luck will decide if you win or not. House edge and strategy can be a factor, but overall luck is a big part in playing in casinos

You, like many, don't seem to understand the difference between short term and long term gambling.

In the short term you can have positive results. Go to the casino with $200 and come out with $800, for example. But in the long term the HE is everything, the more times you play, the larger the numerical sample, the closer your actual results will be to the expected mathematical results, and these always consist of a net loss.

[Wind_FURY]

I believe if the games a person plays is always simple games of "gamble/games of chance" without involving any strategy, then those games could become uninteresting especially if that person always loses.

Indeed people play games according to their preferences.  Any games of chance don't have any successful strategy so why think hard to create a strategy that won't be successful in the end?  There is also this gambling point where our favorite or preferred game becomes toxic to the point we lost interest and even cursed it.

That just happened to me! I lost in 5.00 mBTC in Craps. The strategy I was using simply stopped working. BUT Craps is a game you can play using different strategies, and there are MANY different strategies, https://www.youtube.com/c/ColorUp

I'll try some of them next week after Halloween break!

Because what's captivating in playing a game like slots everyday of your life, for hours and hours during the day or night, without encouraging strategy?

Well playing without strategy doesn't stress our minds.  This is one good thing about slots if we are playing to entertain ourselves.  We accept the lose of money in exchange for some relaxing entertainment.

Understandable, if you explain it that way.

[Mauser]

Although, a warning. The house edge may be low, BUT there's still a house edge! Managing your capital is MORE IMPORTANT than the favorite game to play.

It's true every game on a casino has a house edge. That's how the casino makes money over time. Even poker a game which is only played against other gamblers has a fee that the casino collects for the infrastructure and services they provide for us to gamble. When playing blackjack we can influence the house edge with our strategy. The more optimal we play the lower the winning chances of the house. Unfortunately the best gambling strategy will still not make a save profit, there is anyways luck involved in the games. Blackjack is one of my favourite games as well and I managed to get some decent profits over the years. Having a optimal blackjack strategy together with a martingale approach is what worked best for me. If you are looking for games with a low house edge you can also play some dice and roulette, it's very easy to learn for new players and you can start with only betting on Black/Red or the 50% winning chance. The most important thing we need to focus on in the beginning is not to bet too large, if we face a losing streak the chances are high we could go broke. Better to start small and build a bankroll over time.

[serjent05]

I don't believe in perfect strategy in gambling, by the end of the day your luck will decide if you win or not. House edge and strategy can be a factor, but overall luck is a big part in playing in casinos

You, like many, don't seem to understand the difference between short term and long term gambling.

In the short term you can have positive results. Go to the casino with $200 and come out with $800, for example. But in the long term the HE is everything, the more times you play, the larger the numerical sample, the closer your actual results will be to the expected mathematical results, and these always consist of a net loss.

This is highly proven.  I have the same experience as this, I was winning (turned my $30 bankroll to $400+) and should have stopped that moment but I keep on playing.  Took me another 8 hours and all my bankroll and winnings were depleted.  It only took me less than 1 hour to get to $400+ bankroll (winnings from consecutive bonus rounds of a certain slot) and full 8 hours to lose them all.  Luck can't save us if we decided on a very long session of gambling.

That just happened to me! I lost in 5.00 mBTC in Craps. The strategy I was using simply stopped working.

I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.

[dothebeats]

I really wanted to learn blackjack but my brain is not capable of learning new things at all. Used to sit and watch live games and even watch tutorials but I couldn't get the necessary things to keep and always fail to remember what I should do and what I should not. So far dice is serving me a lot when it comes to enjoyment, but profits? Sports betting would be my go-to when I wanted to.

[wxa7115]

I really wanted to learn blackjack but my brain is not capable of learning new things at all. Used to sit and watch live games and even watch tutorials but I couldn't get the necessary things to keep and always fail to remember what I should do and what I should not. So far dice is serving me a lot when it comes to enjoyment, but profits? Sports betting would be my go-to when I wanted to.

It is not as hard as it may seem, what you need to do is to learn by steps then once you learn this information you actually practice it by playing the game, and finally once you have mastered that knowledge then you can begin to learn a little bit more until you finally master the basic strategy.

For example what you should do if you have a hard 17 versus a soft 17? A hard 17 is very easy to remember as you just need to stand, but with a soft 17 you could double, stand or ask for another card, you could practice until you remember what to do, and once you do then you can move down and now try to remember what to do if you have 16, 15 and so on.

[Saint-loup]

Although, a warning. The house edge may be low, BUT there's still a house edge! Managing your capital is MORE IMPORTANT than the favorite game to play.

It's true every game on a casino has a house edge. That's how the casino makes money over time. Even poker a game which is only played against other gamblers has a fee that the casino collects for the infrastructure and services they provide for us to gamble. When playing blackjack we can influence the house edge with our strategy. The more optimal we play the lower the winning chances of the house. Unfortunately the best gambling strategy will still not make a save profit, there is anyways luck involved in the games. Blackjack is one of my favourite games as well and I managed to get some decent profits over the years. Having a optimal blackjack strategy together with a martingale approach is what worked best for me. If you are looking for games with a low house edge you can also play some dice and roulette, it's very easy to learn for new players and you can start with only betting on Black/Red or the 50% winning chance. The most important thing we need to focus on in the beginning is not to bet too large, if we face a losing streak the chances are high we could go broke. Better to start small and build a bankroll over time.

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you, the roulette is usually not considered as a low house edge game. The house edge of the european roulette is 2.70% and the one of the american roulette is 5.26%. In this article from the Wizard of Odds you can find a comparison between the main casino games, and as you can see there are several games with a lower house edge. In addition roulette is slower than craps and two times slower than blackjack and baccarat according to the article.

Average hands per hour :
Baccarat   72   
Blackjack   70
Craps   48   
Roulette   38

https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/house-edge/

[boyptc]

I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.

There's really a code and algorithm for that.

The casinos won't allow us to win continually if they've detected that we're using some pattern or strategy against the games that we're playing on them.

That's why no strategy would work for long if you've been winning on it lately.

[kotajikikox]

I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.

There's really a code and algorithm for that.

The casinos won't allow us to win continually if they've detected that we're using some pattern or strategy against the games that we're playing on them.

That's why no strategy would work for long if you've been winning on it lately.

and sometimes this leads to account banning , so for me better to stand from the table for a while when we already won good amount and consider returning in the next sessions ?

though I am not sure from others , but for me? winning is all about luck and decisions , so if we are to win high enough then best to lessen your activities .