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October 02, 2022, 08:55:20 PM
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I haven't played craps but if that's the strategy that works for you then that's good but it may not work for those that would try it. I guess that advice at the end is applicable to everyone that gambles with any other games.
We have the luck, we have to analyze and make strategies that we do for the games that we play. We have to remember that majority of them have always the house edge and the bigger chance is always on the casino itself and not with us.

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October 03, 2022, 07:51:06 PM
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We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack, Craps, and Roullette IF you just bet on Red or Black.

I think that doesn't change the fact that our winning chance is still by luck. Although Blackjack should be associated with a good decision, we are still playing against the house. Craps is also a difficult game that's why even though it was stated that the house edge of this game is between 0 - 16.67%, still, if luck doesn't come to us we will be doomed. Roulettes, even if we just have to bet on red or black is also a difficult game.

In conclusion, we can't really feel that these casino games really have the lowest house edge.

For me, just choose the game we are comfortable to play with.
I guess in gambling, whether you came from a high or low social status, that won’t give you a guarantee to win as gambling will always be a game of chance and luck, and that the house will always win. Even if you play in those low edge house casinos, losses will always be inevitable. But if you know how to manage your finances and you always play in an amount you can afford to lose, losing will never become a big deal on you.

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October 04, 2022, 02:12:51 AM
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I haven't played craps but if that's the strategy that works for you then that's good but it may not work for those that would try it. I guess that advice at the end is applicable to everyone that gambles with any other games.
We have the luck, we have to analyze and make strategies that we do for the games that we play. We have to remember that majority of them have always the house edge and the bigger chance is always on the casino itself and not with us.
I've also never played craps so I don't understand the strategy to make a chance to win bigger  and also when playing other types of games don't really pay much attention to the house edge, because in my opinion all casino games except games that require skill are very dependent on luck.

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October 04, 2022, 02:39:39 AM
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If you're going to create a topic like this please move it to the gambling discussion board. It really doesn't belong in the gambling section as is. You really need to add more to the discussion vs just a generic explanation without really focusing on any rules. You're leading gamblers down a bad path being so vague.

Op has forgotten that the house always wins.
No matter how low the house edge is, if there is house edge present, then definitely the house will be in profit.
Basically I don’t support any casino games, as it’s completely based on luck, and the casinos always takes heavy profits from it.
It will be great if we completely avoid casino games and play on sports events, as this has to do more with calculation and predictions, rather than pure luck.

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October 04, 2022, 03:21:25 AM
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Op has forgotten that the house always wins.
No matter how low the house edge is, if there is house edge present, then definitely the house will be in profit.
Basically I don’t support any casino games, as it’s completely based on luck, and the casinos always takes heavy profits from it.
It will be great if we completely avoid casino games and play on sports events, as this has to do more with calculation and predictions, rather than pure luck.

I don't think he has forgotten it as he is clearly talking about House Edge. What strikes me is that he uses the term "plebs", which sounds almost medieval to me.

Check the vocabulary you use, OP, you can't have that low regard for yourself, never mind that you don't have a lot of money.

Regarding the other thing you say, in casino games the house wins in the long run inevitably due to the House Edge, but still, they attract many players because they provide entertainment and online crypto casinos usually provide a fairly high RTP, which together with cashback reduces the HE quite a lot.

In other types of games such as sports betting or poker, you can be a winner in the long term, but all that glitters is not gold, because even in these types of games the vast majority of players are losers.


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October 04, 2022, 06:14:47 AM
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You are coming up with the assumption that the gamblers must gamble with the mentality of "winning more money or at least losing less money". I've always thought that this is a wrong mentality. Gambling is supposed to be fun, not a chore(assuming that you know when to stop and don't get addicted). To me, the mentality of gambling in order to win some money will always lead to addiction.
I wouldn't play boring games like BlackJack or Crabs only because they offer lower house edge and I have a higher chance to win money.
Just play more interesting games(even when they have higher house edge) and know when to stop.
At the end of the day, the casinos make most of their money from the gambling addicts. This is the ugly truth.

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October 05, 2022, 03:00:37 AM
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If you're going to create a topic like this please move it to the gambling discussion board. It really doesn't belong in the gambling section as is. You really need to add more to the discussion vs just a generic explanation without really focusing on any rules. You're leading gamblers down a bad path being so vague.

Op has forgotten that the house always wins.
No matter how low the house edge is, if there is house edge present, then definitely the house will be in profit.
Basically I don’t support any casino games, as it’s completely based on luck, and the casinos always takes heavy profits from it.
It will be great if we completely avoid casino games and play on sports events, as this has to do more with calculation and predictions, rather than pure luck.

We have seen this thing about the house winning since we were little and in the movies, it is something common, for me a casino that gives players more advantage is because it is in trouble, it is like banks when they advertise, and I have seen some casinos that claim to have the lowest house edge there is, and all at once I think that they are in trouble, that they don't have many players, that they need to move the casino games, that they have more publicity or something, but we can't get on To think that a casino is going to give money away and if a casino does that of giving money away, it quickly goes bankrupt, even if it is 1 dollar, a casino takes good care of it.
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October 05, 2022, 03:18:38 AM
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You are coming up with the assumption that the gamblers must gamble with the mentality of "winning more money or at least losing less money". I've always thought that this is a wrong mentality. Gambling is supposed to be fun, not a chore(assuming that you know when to stop and don't get addicted). To me, the mentality of gambling in order to win some money will always lead to addiction.

That's the point. It is by no means to be taken as a system for making money. The ideal is to think about entertainment. Like going to the cinema, but with the difference that at the end of the session you may leave with more money than you came in with.

<...> for me a casino that gives players more advantage is because it is in trouble, it is like banks when they advertise, and I have seen some casinos that claim to have the lowest house edge there is, and all at once I think that they are in trouble <...>

You are wrong. A lower margin attracts more customers. It does not inexorably mean that the casino is in trouble.

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October 05, 2022, 10:36:03 AM
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We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack and Craps.

I tried both of them, and my favorite is Craps. For a beginner, just bet on 6 and 8, then if the dice roll is a 7, you lose, if it's 6 or 8 you win. There are other betting strategies to use to increase your bets called "press and collect", but that's for another topic. Cool

The reasoning on why "just place on 6 and 8" is the lower house edge = 1.52%, definitely lower if compared to playing your favorite slot machines.

Plus there are bets with lower house edge in craps, like Pass Line/Come Bet = 1.41%, Don’t Pass/Come = 1.40%.
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Your topic is interesting but at which casino do you play craps currently? Very few live casinos are offering this game actually, because I think it's a little bit complicated to quickly understand all the rules for a beginner.


I play Craps in BlackJack.fun, Betplay, and Owl.Games, but most of my time is currently in BlackJack.fun because of the free spins as rewards for playing, and because they have an active community there. Plus I believe most of the casinos that have Evolution Gaming also have Craps. You have to go to Evolution's actual lobby and search for "Craps", it will be there.

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Regarding the house edge it isn't the lowest among live games if your figures are correct. Blackjack house edge is almost 3 times lower than that, and Baccarat house edge is also lower than 1.5% even without commission and still lower than those figures if you bet on player.
Moreover you can find few slots claiming they have a RTP of 99%, which is hard to check though.


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I believe I never claimed that Craps has the lowest house edge? Although, it's among the lowest, and relatively very low compared to slot machines.

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October 06, 2022, 12:21:47 AM
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Assuming or imagining that I am a pleb  Tongue I think that we should all be playing mostly poker, as mostly as a social activity. It is more likely to end in winnings and fun than most games out there in the casinos and in my view much more fun that those you listed. Anyway, thanks for the compilation and I will see that I learn a bit about each of those ones.

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October 06, 2022, 01:44:11 AM
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We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack, Craps, and Roullette IF you just bet on Red or Black.

I think that doesn't change the fact that our winning chance is still by luck. Although Blackjack should be associated with a good decision, we are still playing against the house. Craps is also a difficult game that's why even though it was stated that the house edge of this game is between 0 - 16.67%, still, if luck doesn't come to us we will be doomed. Roulettes, even if we just have to bet on red or black is also a difficult game.

In conclusion, we can't really feel that these casino games really have the lowest house edge.

For me, just choose the game we are comfortable to play with.
I think it makes sense that people look for games with the lowest house edge possible, but at the same time all of that is for nothing if we are not having any kind of fun, so the first criteria should be to find games in which we feel comfortable and that give us the fun and excitement we are looking for, and once that has been taken care for then we can look for the variation of the game which has the lowest house edge and which allows us to play the longest.
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October 06, 2022, 06:13:03 AM
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The main objective of the gambling casino gives us entertainment at the same time is to get an earning and let the players enjoy winning at the same time that's why the players make a different strategies and techniques just to beat the game itself. Thats why there's a lot of player have different preferences like the RTP, bonus, free spins and etc so they can entertain themselves and got the higher chance of winnings.

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October 06, 2022, 06:21:31 AM
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You can take OP's advice and play it safe with a game with a very low house edge or you can slightly increase your risk and play in-house casino games like Stake.com originals with more or less the same house edge and have more fun.  Tongue

Gambling should be entertainment.. not a method to make profit or to play it safe all the time. The 3rd party Slot providers have a higher house edge, but they are a lot more fun than playing BlackJack and Craps for hours on end.  Roll Eyes

Just enjoy the experience and get the adrenaline pumping, by playing games with a house edge of between 3% and 4% and higher variance.... because you might just win the big one.  Wink (Example : Hacksaw Gaming)  Cool

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October 06, 2022, 07:29:52 AM
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Am a casino pleb myself, but I disagree with your advice about playing games only with the lowest house edge. Why? Because house edge isn't everything. Some of my biggest wins were from games with high house edge.

Games which I usually play are slots, Baccarat, sports betting etc where the house edge varies between them to a large degree. Fun > House edge in my opinion.
I am with you on this, house edge should not be total, I was so amazed when I was reading what the OP wrote as if it was a fixed budget affair. Dice rolling and casinos, in general, do not work like that as nothing works 100% with gambling, but to just follow someone's mind/instincts and variable approaches, is not fixed advice from anyone.

No one should be total in a certain approach to gambling and must find a way to play based on what their minds are telling them at that current time.

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October 09, 2022, 01:37:41 AM
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You can take OP's advice and play it safe with a game with a very low house edge or you can slightly increase your risk and play in-house casino games like Stake.com originals with more or less the same house edge and have more fun.  Tongue

Gambling should be entertainment.. not a method to make profit or to play it safe all the time. The 3rd party Slot providers have a higher house edge, but they are a lot more fun than playing BlackJack and Craps for hours on end.  Roll Eyes

Just enjoy the experience and get the adrenaline pumping, by playing games with a house edge of between 3% and 4% and higher variance.... because you might just win the big one.  Wink (Example : Hacksaw Gaming)  Cool
When we think about it makes sense to try to look for games with a low house edge so we can gamble for a little bit longer, but what it is the point of doing such a thing if we are not obtaining any fun? Gambling should always be done for entertainment purposes and if we have to pay a little bit more to obtain the fun we are looking for then so be it, in the end it does not matter if we spend a few more dollars as long as we still have our gambling under complete control.
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October 09, 2022, 04:23:05 AM
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Am a casino pleb myself, but I disagree with your advice about playing games only with the lowest house edge. Why? Because house edge isn't everything. Some of my biggest wins were from games with high house edge.
Indeed. Biggest wins can also be found to other games that have high house edge.

Well, it's a good idea to choose a game with low house edge for your own benefit but I think before that, ask ourselves if that's the game we prefer to play or the one that can entertain us more. If you're more concern on the house edge then probably you are a kind of gambler who's afraid to lose your money (or should I say not prepared) despite knowing the risk if you gamble it. There are plenty of games that we can choose from even we our plebs, moreover it's nice to win if you least expect it because you're just playing to entertain yourself.

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October 10, 2022, 09:38:07 AM
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You can take OP's advice and play it safe with a game with a very low house edge or you can slightly increase your risk and play in-house casino games like Stake.com originals with more or less the same house edge and have more fun.  Tongue

Gambling should be entertainment.. not a method to make profit or to play it safe all the time. The 3rd party Slot providers have a higher house edge, but they are a lot more fun than playing BlackJack and Craps for hours on end.  Roll Eyes

Just enjoy the experience and get the adrenaline pumping, by playing games with a house edge of between 3% and 4% and higher variance.... because you might just win the big one.  Wink (Example : Hacksaw Gaming)  Cool
When we think about it makes sense to try to look for games with a low house edge so we can gamble for a little bit longer, but what it is the point of doing such a thing if we are not obtaining any fun? Gambling should always be done for entertainment purposes and if we have to pay a little bit more to obtain the fun we are looking for then so be it, in the end it does not matter if we spend a few more dollars as long as we still have our gambling under complete control.
Well, it will depend on which one will give pleasure to each gambler because they will have their favorite game. And for the amount of bets they will use will also depend on how much money they deposit into their account. If they always remember gambling is just for entertainment and fun, they will not treat gambling as a way to make money. They will only spend their time playing gambling; as soon as they get it, they will stop and leave it.

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October 13, 2022, 02:00:22 PM
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The main objective of the gambling casino gives us entertainment at the same time is to get an earning and let the players enjoy winning at the same time that's why the players make a different strategies and techniques just to beat the game itself. Thats why there's a lot of player have different preferences like the RTP, bonus, free spins and etc so they can entertain themselves and got the higher chance of winnings.
Until now there are still people who did not know this and there are some who know this but acted like they didn't know it. For them, gambling casinos are a money dispenser which can provide them extra cash but I think they know that it wasn't easy but for them to win they need to grind hard first in the game or be able to lose big first.

Once they win, there are times where they are not happy. They don't enjoy their winnings yet by withdrawing and spending it because they risk it again in the hopes of making it more bigger. There's no way for each gambler to beat the game or the house and there are times that strategies and techniques will stop working.

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October 14, 2022, 01:27:35 AM
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BJ is completely random. You can see online guides that show the best percentage chance of winning at each number that you and the dealer have. These are called hit or stand charts, but they're just a guideline like the ones in poker where they tell you what you should do, but I've seen plenty of rounds where I had 19 or 20 and the dealer got 21. I've also played games of BJ where the dealer got above 19 multiple times in a row. It's still a game of chance that gives you a greater feeling of control than slots roulette, but not as much control as poker.

So far I still play Blackjack and regularly I always try it 2x a week. Although not very good at guessing because getting 21 points against the house we will always be played with. It's just that when I think about it, I get a higher win rate in Blackjack. For that some games like Roulette and Craps I still don't like fully. In Blackjack when we have been getting 21 points continuously the ambition is to double the bet. The higher the multiple, the bigger we are toyed with. Now, what I often do is fix the win, which is every 3 or 4 times I get 21 points, which means I cash out, even if I lose 3 - 4 times.

Well, I have always been playing Black Jack before and I like the experience, however I can say that Black Jack is a game that can give us an idea that when we play against the house, the house does not hesitate to take risks and has much more luck than one as a player (obviously the house advantage) and us when we risk well in my particular case whenever I am at 17, 16, I choose one more card and suddenly a 10 comes up and goodbye to the game, then it is something hard, you have to have enough decision to put off playing against the house, at least that is what has happened to me, I don't know about you but I have had that perception.

You can take OP's advice and play it safe with a game with a very low house edge or you can slightly increase your risk and play in-house casino games like Stake.com originals with more or less the same house edge and have more fun.  Tongue

Gambling should be entertainment.. not a method to make profit or to play it safe all the time. The 3rd party Slot providers have a higher house edge, but they are a lot more fun than playing BlackJack and Craps for hours on end.  Roll Eyes

Just enjoy the experience and get the adrenaline pumping, by playing games with a house edge of between 3% and 4% and higher variance.... because you might just win the big one.  Wink (Example : Hacksaw Gaming)  Cool
When we think about it makes sense to try to look for games with a low house edge so we can gamble for a little bit longer, but what it is the point of doing such a thing if we are not obtaining any fun? Gambling should always be done for entertainment purposes and if we have to pay a little bit more to obtain the fun we are looking for then so be it, in the end it does not matter if we spend a few more dollars as long as we still have our gambling under complete control.
Well, it will depend on which one will give pleasure to each gambler because they will have their favorite game. And for the amount of bets they will use will also depend on how much money they deposit into their account. If they always remember gambling is just for entertainment and fun, they will not treat gambling as a way to make money. They will only spend their time playing gambling; as soon as they get it, they will stop and leave it.
Well, I think something, whatever the game, whether it has a lot or a little risk, games of chance always point in the same direction, if you choose a game with little risk, the chances of losing in the long term are imminent, maybe Sometimes low risk games are won on many occasions but when very large bets are made I think things will balance out and obviously it will go in favor of the house, that detail can never be forgotten, whoever plays believing that they can beat the house Well, it's very bad, this is something that many players want to achieve and it's not very smart, at least I know that many see it that way, but the results will never be favorable for the player.

The main objective of the gambling casino gives us entertainment at the same time is to get an earning and let the players enjoy winning at the same time that's why the players make a different strategies and techniques just to beat the game itself. Thats why there's a lot of player have different preferences like the RTP, bonus, free spins and etc so they can entertain themselves and got the higher chance of winnings.
Until now there are still people who did not know this and there are some who know this but acted like they didn't know it. For them, gambling casinos are a money dispenser which can provide them extra cash but I think they know that it wasn't easy but for them to win they need to grind hard first in the game or be able to lose big first.

Once they win, there are times where they are not happy. They don't enjoy their winnings yet by withdrawing and spending it because they risk it again in the hopes of making it more bigger. There's no way for each gambler to beat the game or the house and there are times that strategies and techniques will stop working.
Exactly, there are many techniques or ways that a player can apply in a casino, but that is something that one should not trust, sooner or later the house always wins, the house will always have the advantage, what a player who has a good profit is that you take them, go away and enjoy them in something else, and if you come back to play it is not good to bet the same, but what is needed so that you can enjoy the game, otherwise you will have many losses , and sometimes some losses are very difficult to recover, sometimes it is like something impossible, that is why a player when he loses, should not seek revenge.

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