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October 13, 2022, 11:46:08 PM
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The real help one can do is to help themselves.
There is no one else who can help you out to survive the rainy days. The only solution of the inflation is to strive for the financial freedom
However, it is a lie if we don't need the government's role.  Undecided
Sure, it is a must to do our own efforts to deal with current inflation in every country in the world. At least, we must have varied sources to gain money. It is true that we don't rely on real-life jobs only, we must have online sources such as trading or investing in decentralized ecosystems like crypto. But once again, without support from the government, it is harder to succeed in this. For example; when your government totally bans crypto, you will have no chance to gain money from crypto for sure!!


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October 14, 2022, 09:16:45 PM
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Help is always there but we must also be aware that we cannot live only by relying on aid, not to mention that there are so many corrupt "persons" who have power so that sometimes this assistance will not arrive or may not be right on target.

We can't wait to get life because while we can then do to support our life as long as it doesn't violate the law then this is much better.
The real help one can do is to help themselves.
There is no one else who can help you out to survive the rainy days. The only solution of the inflation is to strive for the financial freedom
In this case it is true, but on the other hand we also cannot completely release the government because we really need their help but in this case we cannot become dependent.
It's hard to deal with things like this without the government's participation, even if we can, it's still a little difficult, but we can't depend on it because it will only make you seem resigned to the situation and don't want to change your fate.

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October 16, 2022, 09:50:44 AM
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lowering the price of basic goods or raw goods will not be able to overcome inflation, which must be carried out. because if you lower the price of basic goods or raw materials, later the country can go bankrupt not following the current inflation.
what we have to think about right now even though money inflation is going on is just do what we have to do because right now we still need fiat money for shopping etc. and we don't have to think about how to deal with inflation, it's very difficult.
and more importantly for me keep using fiat money to invest in bitcoin. that's all from me
The idea that you could lower the prices anytime you wish, is beyond realistic anyway. How will the person who sell those basic goods will survive when everything else is going up, and they are still selling for the same price. Milk is one of the things in my nation that stayed the same, and now ranchers are killing their cows to sell for meat instead of milking them, because in the short run it allows them to survive. They can get the meat, and sell it, and buy a new one much younger, baby basically, and grow it, and repeat the cycle and make more profit in the short term, in the long term it's not sustainable of course.

This is why you need to make sure that inflation happens in everything, or nothing. Best would be making sure you increase the interest rates, so that people would remove the money from the markets and inflation slows down.
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October 16, 2022, 10:00:42 AM
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Help is always there but we must also be aware that we cannot live only by relying on aid, not to mention that there are so many corrupt "persons" who have power so that sometimes this assistance will not arrive or may not be right on target.

We can't wait to get life because while we can then do to support our life as long as it doesn't violate the law then this is much better.
The real help one can do is to help themselves.
There is no one else who can help you out to survive the rainy days. The only solution of the inflation is to strive for the financial freedom
In this case it is true, but on the other hand we also cannot completely release the government because we really need their help but in this case we cannot become dependent.
It's hard to deal with things like this without the government's participation, even if we can, it's still a little difficult, but we can't depend on it because it will only make you seem resigned to the situation and don't want to change your fate.
everywhere business are in trouble - people are trying to financially stabilize.
That is true - if the government doesn't support it is hard to deal with the things. Struggling in this way is already too difficult

It's true whether it's a big business or a small business they are in trouble when the conditions are like this,
of course the business is trying and struggling to stay afloat and it's not an easy job,
The government really needs to be present in situations like this

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October 16, 2022, 11:03:31 AM
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There is nothing surprising in the fact that currencies around the world are collapsing. This is the most common process, but now it is greatly aggravated due to various events taking place in the world. In general, money always depreciates, this is their peculiarity. Money was not created to accumulate wealth. It is a trading tool. Whatever currency you take, they all depreciated (throughout their history), except for crypto currencies. Although the time of existence of crypto currencies is short and it is still difficult to draw conclusions, but at the moment, bitcoin only does what is growing in price. Yes, with falls, but in general it is growing, which proves the uniqueness of this and the difference from traditional currencies around the world.

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October 16, 2022, 06:49:09 PM
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Only lazy people will rely on governments help and if many people will follow what others did like asking some help then for those to come maybe they suffer from hunger since government action takes time since for sure this will have a delay due to more people seek for help. That's why we need to take action towards this and use our strength to find opportunity to earn money so that we don't need to wait for any help since we can sustain ourselves to buy the things we need.
I think the collapse of the currencies are also the fault of the governments. People blame them and they wait for the government's actions to solve the mess that they create but for some people who think are independent enough, they will try to look for ways to survive. Seeking for an extra job to earn more money can be one of the solution for this but it would be better if we prefer jobs which are paid by other currencies which aren't affected by the collapse.

Cryptos are a perfect example for this. If it's not possible for some people to do that, then they can always work on the job they like and get paid with fiat and then use the fiat to buy a crypto.
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October 16, 2022, 08:15:30 PM
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Only lazy people will rely on governments help and if many people will follow what others did like asking some help then for those to come maybe they suffer from hunger since government action takes time since for sure this will have a delay due to more people seek for help. That's why we need to take action towards this and use our strength to find opportunity to earn money so that we don't need to wait for any help since we can sustain ourselves to buy the things we need.
I think the collapse of the currencies are also the fault of the governments. People blame them and they wait for the government's actions to solve the mess that they create but for some people who think are independent enough, they will try to look for ways to survive. Seeking for an extra job to earn more money can be one of the solution for this but it would be better if we prefer jobs which are paid by other currencies which aren't affected by the collapse.

Cryptos are a perfect example for this. If it's not possible for some people to do that, then they can always work on the job they like and get paid with fiat and then use the fiat to buy a crypto.
Without a doubt taking a passive approach is a mistake right now, many people I know have the attitude that if there is a problem then the government needs to do something to fix it, but what happens when it is the government the one that is causing the trouble? Who is going to fix it? And even if it happens the losses you will suffer in the process are simply too big, as such since we can see that the economic crisis is going to get worse then it is time look for currencies which can resist what is coming, and bitcoin is a good option we can use in order to do this.
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October 16, 2022, 11:01:23 PM
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The dollar index cannot grow for a long time and soon speculators will buy cheap assets for an expensive dollar. People no longer trust banks, because you can lose money at any time. The CBDC will make it easier for regulators to control finances, and most banks will be forced to close or become subsidiaries of larger global banks.

Currencies are collapsing on a serious note and one fun thing about it is that people whose currencies are affected are busy buying dollar thinking that dollar is a safe haven since it seems that it's gaining strength against other currencies.
But all these makes me scared and like I am so much scared that the financial system could collapse. I don't know if I'm going weird or I'm in order.
In the crypto,  anything that goes up must surely come down, I don't know if this will apply to dollar because dollar is very much over bought and the ending result might not be funny to the world economy.

People keep buying dollar to keep because the economy of their country keep going down. Like here in Nigeria, dollar keep increasing almost everyday. I think for dollar to be stabilized in any country, the country's economy must be worked on and must be improved.

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Nigeria can be the richest country in Africa easily if they are able to produce their full potential of oil which is sold in dollars, the economy should then be secure to expand to growth.   They need not fear the dollar strength as much as other countries which do not have that source of exports always there.   I'm not saying like that is easy exactly but the path to prosperity for that country is a known thing, I hope it is able to be found though I just hear of many disagreements and troubles which leads to great cost unfortunately.
  It ultimately comes down to import export balance for many countries, when currencies are volatile like now with Dollar at twenty year highs it makes it obvious short comings in that balance and production vs imported goods for each country.  The surprising extreme this year has been the failure of one the worlds greatest exporters, Germany is globally important in its production so normally would be fine yet they've failed in some vital commodities and may yet suffer quite badly from a poor balance to their usage/consumption; its a lesson we all have to learn to some extent I think.

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October 17, 2022, 06:39:32 AM
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The central bank that issued legal currency certainly knows that inflation is difficult or even unavoidable, this makes the currency value will continue to decline so that when it reaches the lowest point, what the central bank does is kill zero.
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October 17, 2022, 03:58:11 PM
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The central bank that issued legal currency certainly knows that inflation is difficult or even unavoidable, this makes the currency value will continue to decline so that when it reaches the lowest point, what the central bank does is kill zero.

What is meant by kill zero?
In general, inflation is difficult to avoid by the average country, but that does not mean it cannot be overcome by the state. For example, if a country has several large agricultural lands and raw materials that are often used by many factories and has a company that can process raw materials into finished goods, then the inflationary conditions can be slightly overcome.

Because the state does not need to import goods with the same use from other countries whose prices are much more expensive than those in their own country. And that is one of the few ways that can be used to be less affected by inflation when it occurs.
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October 17, 2022, 06:09:54 PM
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The real help one can do is to help themselves.
There is no one else who can help you out to survive the rainy days. The only solution of the inflation is to strive for the financial freedom
Sometimes people who have difficulty confused and do not think of looking for financial freedom, when they get money, are used for daily needs, this is our duty to help open their minds to invest even with small values.
I am not entirely sure if that’s a bad thing though. Depends on their financial situation, if someone can survive until they die without getting into big financial trouble, sure it could be some small troubles like we all live, but nothing like bank seizes their car type of thing, then I do not think that it would matter.

What’s wrong with living a life with spending your entire finances on material stuff, and buying things, eating outside at good places, going to vacations, buying the brand new phone, and whatever else they spend their money on. IF! they are capable of doing that without going into too much trouble, that’s fine, they will survive in the end anyway, but if they do it too much and get in trouble, that’s bad.
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October 19, 2022, 08:51:28 PM
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People keep buying dollar to keep because the economy of their country keep going down. Like here in Nigeria, dollar keep increasing almost everyday. I think for dollar to be stabilized in any country, the country's economy must be worked on and must be improved.
Many countries which are still trying to become developed are suffering greatly by the crisis that we are going through, and it is normal their citizens are doing what they can to protect themselves, ironically since in those countries governments are a lot weaker people are used to try to look after themselves compared to what we see in developed countries in which people expect the government to fix things for them, so compared to their national currency getting dollars is a good option for them, but I wonder for how long this will be the case as the dollar is probably going to suffer as well in the near future.
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October 22, 2022, 05:03:37 PM
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It seems like more than just currencies are collapsing in Europe. The political structure is falling apart too.

These days UK is in the news a lot since they couldn't even keep a prime minister in office for more than 44 days but elsewhere the situation is not better either. With the mass protests and riots all around Europe and how the governments are cracking down on the protesters with mass arrests the public unrest is going to continue growing threatening these governments and most importantly the economy since the whole chain is disrupted now.

The French protests has already grown with hundreds of thousands of people in the streets which has turned a violent and bloody clash with the French police. The workers, the transport and even schools are joining and shutting down.

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October 22, 2022, 05:24:20 PM
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Only lazy people will rely on governments help and if many people will follow what others did like asking some help then for those to come maybe they suffer from hunger since government action takes time since for sure this will have a delay due to more people seek for help. That's why we need to take action towards this and use our strength to find opportunity to earn money so that we don't need to wait for any help since we can sustain ourselves to buy the things we need.
I think the collapse of the currencies are also the fault of the governments. People blame them and they wait for the government's actions to solve the mess that they create but for some people who think are independent enough, they will try to look for ways to survive. Seeking for an extra job to earn more money can be one of the solution for this but it would be better if we prefer jobs which are paid by other currencies which aren't affected by the collapse.

Cryptos are a perfect example for this. If it's not possible for some people to do that, then they can always work on the job they like and get paid with fiat and then use the fiat to buy a crypto.

You are talking like there is enough job on the ground and no one wants to do it. Most of the countries is facing unemployment problems when some countries is short of manpower for industries. This unbalanced of population growth in the world created some typical situation to handle. Govt also been corrupted and they just don't care about people but to hold their power no matter what happens to the country.
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October 22, 2022, 05:33:54 PM
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The Dollar Index hit 114.5 so that's the day which the basket of currencies that the dollar is weighted against and that is incredibly high so also the dollar is downtrend the RSI broke its downtrend which is pretty bad news for the rest of the global currencies like the pound did you see what the pound did so the pound fell to a record low of 1.03 and the dollar so I'm going to go over the British pound against the US the dollar quick brings you back to the 1800s  during the

In the 1800s there it was five dollars to one

British pound the Napoleonic Wars 3.62 now going all the way to World War Two it was 3.25 dollars to the Great British pound now you had the great financial crisis

that was 1.35 Brexit which was 1.2 and
then right now you have 1.03 Ben Richards you've probably seen him on.

we are seeing a complete control
demolition of the entire economy
plus I think what they're going to be
doing is bringing out a central bank
the digital currency so the more that they
can make these currencies destabilize
the more that people will accept a
central bank digital currency that is
very stable but over the long run you

know they can decrease the value of it

easily and there's no

transparency whatsoever they are

frothing for a CBD right now.


Yes but not the USD becouse USD still reserve currency.
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October 22, 2022, 06:00:58 PM
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The problem is that if there are not enough employment, and if governments are running a nation horribly, if there is no money incoming, if there are all these bad things happening to a person and its not their fault, should they just crawl up and cry? I mean don't get me wrong of course its governments and big capitalist billionaires who like to just screw small people that caused this. However, just because they don't care about us and create these problems, does that mean we should just stop working? You have to find a job, saying "there is none available" means you can't have an income, and if you don't then you are going to just starve to death. Hence, one way or another, online or offline, factory or digital, doesn't matter how but YOU HAVE TO find a job, and earn some money somehow. My nation is not doing that great neither, but I am making enough online and try to survive, I am in no means rich, but refuse to just sit at home hoping that I could get a job.

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October 22, 2022, 09:01:24 PM
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People keep buying dollar to keep because the economy of their country keep going down. Like here in Nigeria, dollar keep increasing almost everyday. I think for dollar to be stabilized in any country, the country's economy must be worked on and must be improved.
Many countries which are still trying to become developed are suffering greatly by the crisis that we are going through, and it is normal their citizens are doing what they can to protect themselves, ironically since in those countries governments are a lot weaker people are used to try to look after themselves compared to what we see in developed countries in which people expect the government to fix things for them, so compared to their national currency getting dollars is a good option for them, but I wonder for how long this will be the case as the dollar is probably going to suffer as well in the near future.
But the fact is that they are only making themselves safe to be able to live life in a recession. But that does not mean they will be able to avoid these difficulties, because this is for the public and surely everyone will feel the impact of the recession. The government will play an important role to be able to overcome this, because indeed it is their responsibility to provide a sense of security despite the difficult situation engulfing the world. But once again we cannot avoid what will happen to the world in the near future. I can only hope we get through it quickly.
This is undeniable, at best we can do something to try to endure what it is coming but we cannot avoid it, the crisis that is coming is so big that no one will be able to remain indifferent to it and everyone will have to take actions to protect themselves, the difference is that the more money you have now the more steps you can take to protect yourself from what it is coming, while those which are poor or that have a lot of debts, which are the majority, will be the ones to suffer the most by the upcoming crisis.
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October 23, 2022, 05:44:26 PM
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The depreciation of currencies, in the current situation, has very real reasons. In times of global crises, the state is forced to "turn on the machine" in order to ensure social obligations, to ensure priority tasks (for example, the fight against covid, or the purchase of gas). Of course, this comes against the background of stagnation in the economy and a decrease in the inflow of tax deductions from citizens and companies. The result is expected - inflationary processes. But if you do not pay those who do not like inflation, there will be even more screams.

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October 23, 2022, 05:57:43 PM
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Why are so many people feeling surprised about these recent currency value depreciations and other economy related issues? I expected this kind of stuff to happen primarily thanks to COVID.

Putin's messed up war basically added fuel to the fire which is why the global economy is collapsing slowly and steadily, but I am confident that it will recover soon.

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