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October 03, 2022, 12:47:38 PM
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Policemen in the stadium acted unprofessionally to control the spectators who invaded the pitch, firing tear gas canisters in an overcrowded stadium isn't the best crowd control, this isn't the first case of pitch invasion in football matches in other countries there are ways of controlling such an unmannered behavior of the fans and spectators without causing any casualties, the Indonesian government should prosecute the culprits behind the incident after a thorough investigation of the incident, my condolences to people who lost their love ones and wishing the injured quick recovery.
I agree, it will only create more and more panic to the people, they should learn how to manage people when times gets hard and especially if this things is not yet so expected to happen but they need to have a plan for this not firing gas canisters. There will always be a fight between fans in different games, not only in physical but also in egames, if there's a pro players there will be fans and anti-fans.
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October 03, 2022, 01:38:38 PM
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Policemen in the stadium acted unprofessionally to control the spectators who invaded the pitch, firing tear gas canisters in an overcrowded stadium isn't the best crowd control, this isn't the first case of pitch invasion in football matches in other countries there are ways of controlling such an unmannered behavior of the fans and spectators without causing any casualties, the Indonesian government should prosecute the culprits behind the incident after a thorough investigation of the incident, my condolences to people who lost their love ones and wishing the injured quick recovery.
I agree, it will only create more and more panic to the people, they should learn how to manage people when times gets hard and especially if this things is not yet so expected to happen but they need to have a plan for this not firing gas canisters. There will always be a fight between fans in different games, not only in physical but also in egames, if there's a pro players there will be fans and anti-fans.
The authority didn't hesitate to take the stadium to control the situation but the supporter of losing team are very mad and they are doing things that is against the law which threatens many lives and the best way for the Policemen to control is to do maximum tolerance but it doesn't end well, and that casualties are very regrettable. 30 years of winning is really a big thing but the fans should anticipate it because this is sports after all, now I don't know if they will still continue playing or they will stop it in respect to those who died, this is a total nightmare.
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October 03, 2022, 02:07:22 PM
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let's grieve for this tragedy for the umpteenth time it happened just because of football, this should be a serious concern from the Indonesian government to take care of this problem, actually no one can be blamed in this case because maybe everyone knows this riot also started from fanatical supporters so making provocations and the like, giving sanctions never creates a deterrent effect and there will always be riots like this again

a life looks very cheap in Indonesia and it must be stopped so that no more lives are lost just because of football, it needs serious handling in solving this problem and the government must also take a firm stand to solve this problem

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October 03, 2022, 07:52:04 PM
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let's grieve for this tragedy for the umpteenth time it happened just because of football, this should be a serious concern from the Indonesian government to take care of this problem, actually no one can be blamed in this case because maybe everyone knows this riot also started from fanatical supporters so making provocations and the like, giving sanctions never creates a deterrent effect and there will always be riots like this again

a life looks very cheap in Indonesia and it must be stopped so that no more lives are lost just because of football, it needs serious handling in solving this problem and the government must also take a firm stand to solve this problem
sometimes we dont understand the game which have happened behind the incident
Do you think it was already plotted? There might be some external forces involved to make this thing more disastrous and to weaken the country.
What are your thoughts about it - I don't think fans did that - I am sure there were goons in the crowd.

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October 03, 2022, 08:12:46 PM
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this is what we are fighting for. the police continued to say that they had carried out according to the protocol but in fact, the tear gas was released into the stands, not in the lower stands which were in chaos

In sporting events in Indonesia, the role of the police and army has gone too far, they are really rude when carrying out their duties. it's time to change and not involve the police or the army in the most important sporting event of football
Policemen in the stadium acted unprofessionally to control the spectators who invaded the pitch, firing tear gas canisters in an overcrowded stadium isn't the best crowd control, this isn't the first case of pitch invasion in football matches in other countries there are ways of controlling such an unmannered behavior of the fans and spectators without causing any casualties, the Indonesian government should prosecute the culprits behind the incident after a thorough investigation of the incident, my condolences to people who lost their love ones and wishing the injured quick recovery.
your sentence is very good. btw, with this incident, people's trust in the police in my country has dropped drastically, they were the first thing to release tear gas and I asked myself if they couldn't predict what might happen and the crowd that had gathered became chaotic

It's time for Indonesian football to clean up from this incident and hopefully in the future for security at the stadium there is no need to invite soldiers or police (they are very arrogant)

even the president of madrid himself said it was a sad day for football

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October 03, 2022, 08:14:21 PM
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let's grieve for this tragedy for the umpteenth time it happened just because of football, this should be a serious concern from the Indonesian government to take care of this problem, actually no one can be blamed in this case because maybe everyone knows this riot also started from fanatical supporters so making provocations and the like, giving sanctions never creates a deterrent effect and there will always be riots like this again

a life looks very cheap in Indonesia and it must be stopped so that no more lives are lost just because of football, it needs serious handling in solving this problem and the government must also take a firm stand to solve this problem
Sad to see this news that has swallowed hundreds of people who became victims. I think the Indonesian league should develop this case accurately to catch the people who caused the chaos. I saw the news that the Kanjuruhan stadium was destroyed due to this riot and many of the victims were young people where they were 20 years old. quite painful and very dear to many parties related to this incident.


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October 03, 2022, 08:52:30 PM
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Yes I have read about this sad and tragic incident that happened in Indonesia. i don't really follow football but sport of any kind should be played and watched with a good sportsman spirit because nothing is important  than anyone's life. similar incident happened in Pakistan and Afghanistan cricket match in Dubai but things got under control by the authorities.  
Same here. I’m not a fan of football and I don’t usually bet on it but with this tragic event causing a lot of lives to end, my sympathy to all those bereaved families. It’s a sad truth that there are really fans who can never control their emotions and end up into riots. The reason that those police officers fired tear gas in response to those fans who are involved in riots. I just hope the same incident would not happen again, not only in football but in all types of sports.

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October 07, 2022, 11:55:13 PM
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Yes I have read about this sad and tragic incident that happened in Indonesia. i don't really follow football but sport of any kind should be played and watched with a good sportsman spirit because nothing is important  than anyone's life. similar incident happened in Pakistan and Afghanistan cricket match in Dubai but things got under control by the authorities.  
Same here. I’m not a fan of football and I don’t usually bet on it but with this tragic event causing a lot of lives to end, my sympathy to all those bereaved families. It’s a sad truth that there are really fans who can never control their emotions and end up into riots. The reason that those police officers fired tear gas in response to those fans who are involved in riots. I just hope the same incident would not happen again, not only in football but in all types of sports.
This is a very sad incident - but I have a feeler maybe this is plotted by the external factors to create unrest in Indonesia
But the loss of innocent lives is a real sad story - may God bless the departed souls.

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October 10, 2022, 08:33:07 PM
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Such tragic news, I really can’t believe this kind of thing is still happening in sport today. So many lives needlessly lost. Nobody should ever go to a football match & not return home. My heart goes out to the families of those who lost their lives, so sad. I hope there is a serious inquest into this & people are held responsible for this tragedy. RIP all who lost their lives.

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October 10, 2022, 11:49:55 PM
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Such tragic news, I really can’t believe this kind of thing is still happening in sport today. So many lives needlessly lost. Nobody should ever go to a football match & not return home. My heart goes out to the families of those who lost their lives, so sad. I hope there is a serious inquest into this & people are held responsible for this tragedy. RIP all who lost their lives.
There might be some external forces involved to make this thing more disastrous and to weaken the country.
What are your thoughts about it

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October 11, 2022, 09:00:11 PM
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Yes, that's right. Regarding tear gas (in this case it is written "crowd control gas"), FIFA clearly prohibits its use in stadiums.
FIFA has also written rules / appeals related to how to anticipate the invasion of fans into the field area. I think a lot of the casualties in the tragedy were because the security forces fired tear gas.
indeed In a derby match, the potential for friction is bound to happen.
Riots and fans entering the field are definitely a possibility
But not by means of tear gas.
Firing tear gas, will make fans jostling for the exit, and eventually become hypoxic.
whatever it is I extend my deepest condolences to the families and friends of the victims who lost their lives following this tragic incident.
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October 13, 2022, 02:41:59 PM
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Such tragic news, I really can’t believe this kind of thing is still happening in sport today. So many lives needlessly lost. Nobody should ever go to a football match & not return home. My heart goes out to the families of those who lost their lives, so sad. I hope there is a serious inquest into this & people are held responsible for this tragedy. RIP all who lost their lives.
Has there any investigation being carried out?
Which group is behind it - what has Indonesia done to hold the accountable?
sports should be fun - people should not take it personal

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October 16, 2022, 04:53:47 AM
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It is such horrific and sad news to hear that things could have taken place at the Indonesian soccer game. An event that shouldn’t have ended with at least 125 dead is truly a tragedy. Yes, a lot of emotions were running high that night for such an important game.

But don’t think it was right that along with the 125 people dead another 300 people were also injured simply because they couldn’t keep people in control. When I read the news, it was such a disappointment not only for the people that lost their lives but for the sport of football. 

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October 16, 2022, 06:40:20 PM
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It is such horrific and sad news to hear that things could have taken place at the Indonesian soccer game. An event that shouldn’t have ended with at least 125 dead is truly a tragedy. Yes, a lot of emotions were running high that night for such an important game.

But don’t think it was right that along with the 125 people dead another 300 people were also injured simply because they couldn’t keep people in control. When I read the news, it was such a disappointment not only for the people that lost their lives but for the sport of football. 
that is true - people went to have fun
they would not have imagined in the wildest dream that this will happen and they would lose their life in the football stadium

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IMO, this wasn't supposed to happen. An unfortunate incident that will go down in football history. The supporters of each club should be aware of their limitations. There are more leagues taking place, and only now is football's popularity in Asian nations improving. Once more, this occurrence will have an impact on Asian countries' football history. Although they are commonly known to be quite violent when it comes to football, I wouldn't really consider it to be Indonesian violence. I`d read on https://zumroad.com/sportince since a LOT of people came out to the field, I suppose it appeared as like something "was" about to happen. From what I can tell, it seems more like fans were interrogating the team about why they lost.
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