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October 06, 2022, 08:52:10 AM
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This will be enough to close in the green zone. Although in 3 months the price can collapse strongly and quickly recover, for example. Personally, I would be happy to buy bitcoin in the long term at 10-14k if the opportunity presents itself.

The old saying says "Be careful what you wish for, lest it come true", and the price of Bitcoin at such a low level would not only be a good opportunity for investment, but also a serious sign that most investors have started to lose confidence in Bitcoin. In a situation where the price would crash by as much as 50% compared to now, there are many more people who would panic sell, than those who would see it as an opportunity, and we see that with every serious price change.

Now the most we need is the stability that Bitcoin shows in relation to fiat currencies, and if it lasts long enough, maybe it will help to change the perception of the common man who still has a generally bad opinion about Bitcoin.

Or maybe we can look at how the relationship with the miners, as far as the hash rate goes or at least the profitability?

And in the last 7 days, as per cmc, we are somewhat in the positive side, but the last quarter is still that far so we will see if it will go down hard again or it will show some stability despite the current recession that the world is experiencing. And yes, hopefully the investors will flock again and not lose their confidence even if we are in the heart of the bearish cycle.

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October 12, 2022, 09:35:32 AM
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An increase of 5% will not change the price much, then 22,000 is enough to end the year with an increase compared to the previous quarter.
Therefore, even the conclusion on a high does not mean a high rise because of all the variables that are happening in the world.
Returning to the 30K levels seems like a dream at the moment due to the huge resistance at the 25K levels.
I would assume that it's not going to be that simple, either it's going to stay where it is right now, somewhere near 19k to 20k levels, or it is going to go up very high, not like 60k or something, but more like 25k or a bit higher.

If the price ends the last quarter with over 25k, doesn't matter if it is 25.1k or 28k, if it is above that level, we are going to end up seeing something much better in the long run for sure. That will benefit us a lot, and it's going to end up with a good profit for the first quarter of next year, and it will be a good year for all of us. This is going to be a big year for us all, we just need to wait a bit longer for sure.

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October 12, 2022, 10:35:34 AM
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Not expecting any huge movement because still the crisis still disturbing all economical or investment matters so maybe we cannot see any constant changes towards this year since for sure investors are not thinking about possible bull run to come. Maybe we will just remain playing at $20k price level or little more up on this figure since I don't see any exciting events that will happen in Q4 of the year.

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October 12, 2022, 12:50:48 PM
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I expect Bitcoin price would still stay around $19K-$21K since the economic recession and western economy are still not in good condition, so there's not many huge cash circulation on Bitcoin volume. I heard next year economy will be bad too, Bitcoin might slightly recovering on the next year. Many government also trying to make FUD regarding Bitcoin energy consumption too, so I don't expect Bitcoin price will pump at this and the next year.

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October 16, 2022, 08:23:44 PM
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Price is squished flat, till it breaks that sequence of nullification BTC likely just does more of the same.   We had an attempt to trade below support and also inversely attempts upwards, both resolved backwards to where they came from  with no greater effect.



This is just daily bars since August, OBV indicator I think reflects that volume might make us bullish but thats a guess at possible divergence.  I still think we can further attempt to break price downwards but that attempt will not especially succeed, mostly its just time to find resolution in price and ultimately we then can rise.    It might just be BTC only rises when the wider market finds reasons accumulate, common currency losses value invariably a constant deterioration in the price denominator  and assets did not hence nominal price does rise.

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October 16, 2022, 11:06:15 PM
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2018 is the closest case to the current narket situation.

It was the all time high year and we get crashed for 40% by the end of the year after a great show off . I expect in this q4 2022 a downtrend continue and the price get cut off by 30% this time to around $14k , that's my price target.

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October 16, 2022, 11:20:11 PM
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It’s spending season and based on previous years, 4th quarter seems not to be ok because of holidays.
I don’t want to expect that much for BTC as we are still on a bear market and the economy of big countries are still suffering from a lot of problem. BTC should stay though above $15k level so we can end this year at least on a better price. Anything can happen, let’s see if BTC can still pump this year.
Almost every year we used to experience good bounce in the market during the end months of the year. This time too the same is expected, but the reality can vary based on what we've achieved over the previous quarters of the year. Inflation serves to be a big problem around the world. Every government is taking measures to come out of inflation. The covid-19 slowed down the growth and followed is the war and other problems that kept the inflation growing. As stated something above $15k at the year end seems to be fair.

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Probably it will be the time for bitcoin to bulish again, wherein at least on the current all time high because obviously bitcoin really making correction below and after the good progress last quarter it didn't came back again. So i believe the cycle still the same and before this year end for sure bitcoin will glow again in the market and will skyrocketed like what always happen after the massive decline. This is all a temporary situation for bitcoin.
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October 17, 2022, 02:37:47 PM
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Probably it will be the time for bitcoin to bulish again, wherein at least on the current all time high because obviously bitcoin really making correction below and after the good progress last quarter it didn't came back again. So i believe the cycle still the same and before this year end for sure bitcoin will glow again in the market and will skyrocketed like what always happen after the massive decline. This is all a temporary situation for bitcoin.
It could be but maybe bitcoin still needs more time to start bullish again. The price of bitcoin is still around $19k-$20k so maybe we have to be patient again because it is not easy to move the price to start rising again. Besides that, the current price is not a guarantee of the lowest bitcoin price because the current price may drop again to a lower price than now.

But in the end, the price of bitcoin will definitely increase and we may not realize it later and we only know that it turns out that the price of bitcoin is already at its highest price. But we still hope that in Q4, this bitcoin price can start to increase, even if a little. If the price of bitcoin can return to $25k-$30k, maybe that is a sign for bitcoin to experience another bullish phase.

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October 17, 2022, 03:06:29 PM
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Probably it will be the time for bitcoin to bulish again, wherein at least on the current all time high because obviously bitcoin really making correction below and after the good progress last quarter it didn't came back again. So i believe the cycle still the same and before this year end for sure bitcoin will glow again in the market and will skyrocketed like what always happen after the massive decline. This is all a temporary situation for bitcoin.
It could be but maybe bitcoin still needs more time to start bullish again. The price of bitcoin is still around $19k-$20k so maybe we have to be patient again because it is not easy to move the price to start rising again. Besides that, the current price is not a guarantee of the lowest bitcoin price because the current price may drop again to a lower price than now.

But in the end, the price of bitcoin will definitely increase and we may not realize it later and we only know that it turns out that the price of bitcoin is already at its highest price. But we still hope that in Q4, this bitcoin price can start to increase, even if a little. If the price of bitcoin can return to $25k-$30k, maybe that is a sign for bitcoin to experience another bullish phase.

We never saw Bitcoin being the only token in a bullish movement, definitely other tokens should also be in an upward motion. At the present we are seeing the opposite wherein majority of cryptos are struggling to break margins and barriers. Now that we are already in the fourth quarter of the year, I guess it would be more realistic to view this year end as something not as most of us hoped and expected. Hopefully, early next year would be a better year for this industry. Many factors affected our assumption for this year such as economic crisis and conflict between countries, and this simply shows there are many things that could affect price predictions.

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October 17, 2022, 04:00:13 PM
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Q3 2022 closed in the red zone. 2022 was the first year with 3 consecutive red quarters:



At the same time, in the entire history of the bitcoin market, there has not been a year in which all quarters were in the red zone. Thus, it is highly likely that the 4th quarter of 2022 will close in the green zone. At the moment, the price is consolidating and approaching a global downtrend, which can break through, marking the beginning of a global market reversal and subsequent recovery and accumulation.



Although this does not mean that there will be a mega-pump at the end of the year, which will give us again prices of 50-60k for 1 bitcoin. But there are some chances to close the annual candle in the region of 30-35k. I also do not rule out such a scenario that before breaking above the downtrend, Bitcoin may once again test 17600 or go below this mark.

What are your expectations for the end of this year? In what price zone do you expect this year to close?

Well if the Russian vs Ukraine conflict ends shortly. There will be a huge rally across the board in stocks and in crypto. Along with a drop in inflation.

If the conflict does not end inflation will not be stopped for a minimum of 2-3 years.

Which means huge bond prices such as the US savings bond the I bond in particular is at 9.62% for at least six months once you buy it.

So it is perfectly pegged to the dollar why on earth invest in a pos coin or even btc when you are certain to get 9.62% for the next six months.


since 330 million people can buy it and with proper management they can buy up to 15000 worth a year that means as much as 330 mill x 15000 usd = 4.95trillion is available year after year after year.


even if only 500 billion is purchased it sucks the money away from crypto especially pos crypto which is essentially no more than a bond.


So all depends on the speed of that conflict ending.

My guess is the conflict continues one and on and on. Usually conflicts like this do exactly that.

So bitcoin will drift down and or sideways in quarter 4 of 2022  and quarter 1,2,3,4 of 2023 and Quarters 1,2,3 of 2024. But the 2024 election will alter it. That is worst case .

Best case we wake up tommorrow  and the Russian conflict with Ukraine has ended.


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So this is my analysis based on the weekly time frame, and from this, I can safely say markets are getting ready for the pullback...which is popularly known around here as the Bullrun & looking at how long markets have been consolidating at the current low we are getting ready for the counter trend and bullish move at the same time. And using my gann box tool to draw my premium and discount clearly shows that the best targets price will want to sell from are around $44k-$48k or the top zone of $64k-$68k but the first zone does stand out as a good area to target.

As for Q4 which is a short term move, am bullish on this one and I see us closing the year around $21k-$25k before the big move Wink

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We are almost at the end of Q4 2022. But the current situation can never be positive for Bitcoin. It's not just cryptocurrencies. The entire economy has come to a standstill ‍situation. However, several events are representing it positively for crypto. But when the world conditions will be good, we will definitely see the crypto at the top position. At this point we need to be more patient.

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October 18, 2022, 04:04:34 PM
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We are almost at the end of Q4 2022. But the current situation can never be positive for Bitcoin. It's not just cryptocurrencies. The entire economy has come to a standstill ‍situation. However, several events are representing it positively for crypto. But when the world conditions will be good, we will definitely see the crypto at the top position. At this point we need to be more patient.

While I agree that the world economy doesn't look great and this is bound to be a problem for bitcoin (and other investments) price, you've confused something: we're only at the beginning of Q4. You know, Q4 means October, November and December; and we're just a little over half of October.
I am a bit worried, but I still hope the trend turns this year.

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Q3 2022 closed in the red zone. 2022 was the first year with 3 consecutive red quarters:
At the same time, in the entire history of the bitcoin market, there has not been a year in which all quarters were in the red zone. Thus, it is highly likely that the 4th quarter of 2022 will close in the green zone. At the moment, the price is consolidating and approaching a global downtrend, which can break through, marking the beginning of a global market reversal and subsequent recovery and accumulation.
What are your expectations for the end of this year? In what price zone do you expect this year to close?

For me the Market will continue to consolidate and we will still be getting the little pumps and dumps within this zones were are in right now. I do think that the Q4 will still end in red, Literally there is no volume in the market right now, secondly I'm still expecting that the Fed will continue to raise interest rate come November and the market will take a beating for that.
Therefore, until the fundamental holders of Bitcoin starts getting stronger and stronger, that's the only time when I do think that the market will bounce back.

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October 19, 2022, 08:05:51 PM
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I expect Bitcoin price would still stay around $19K-$21K since the economic recession and western economy are still not in good condition, so there's not many huge cash circulation on Bitcoin volume. I heard next year economy will be bad too, Bitcoin might slightly recovering on the next year. Many government also trying to make FUD regarding Bitcoin energy consumption too, so I don't expect Bitcoin price will pump at this and the next year.
There is less money that will enter in btc but many of the btc users would sell some of their btc so to support their life outside making the price of btc decline. If the economy remains the same till next year then I don't think a recovery will happen but the price can rather dump more.

The issue about btc energy consumption isn't new but it was only opened up again after they witness that eth is transferring to proof of stake but I don't think this can contribute a lot in terms of price reduction. Miners can always use renewable energy anyway if they want to and still continue supporting btc. Governments should tell the truth that they only hate btc, not that they look concerned about the environment.

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I expect Bitcoin price would still stay around $19K-$21K since the economic recession and western economy are still not in good condition, so there's not many huge cash circulation on Bitcoin volume. I heard next year economy will be bad too, Bitcoin might slightly recovering on the next year. Many government also trying to make FUD regarding Bitcoin energy consumption too, so I don't expect Bitcoin price will pump at this and the next year.
There is less money that will enter in btc but many of the btc users would sell some of their btc so to support their life outside making the price of btc decline. If the economy remains the same till next year then I don't think a recovery will happen but the price can rather dump more.

That could be a hard decision for btc holders, I mean the price is already declining, and if they sell they it's a lost for them. But for sure, they will have to buy it back at some time, when the price goes down this year or 2023.

The issue about btc energy consumption isn't new but it was only opened up again after they witness that eth is transferring to proof of stake but I don't think this can contribute a lot in terms of price reduction. Miners can always use renewable energy anyway if they want to and still continue supporting btc. Governments should tell the truth that they only hate btc, not that they look concerned about the environment.

The attack on bitcoin consumption will still be the biggest FUD, even in 2017 it was one of the topic and yet the price goes up because we are in a bullrun. So same thing will happen in 2024, there will be a lot of negative things but the price will grow no matter what kind of attacks or FUD by btc detractors.
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October 20, 2022, 11:28:02 PM
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I think Q4 will also end with a red zone, maybe around -10% to -20%.
I agree that the biggest drop should be in Q2 (-56,7%), but I suspect there will be another big drop before a rising trend. Moreover, we hear an issue about the recession, the demand in the market may decrease again. People are focusing on savings, they probably limit their funds to buying crypto coins, including BTC. Because of this reason, I guess the scheme will be similar as in 2018. The difference is in Q3, in 2022 will be no green zone.


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In 2 months we will leave 2022 and if you see throughout the year from January then we can say that the market will be red, it is very difficult to rise because there is no positive sentiment, especially the global economic trend that continues to decline.

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Yeah, so much for Uptober huh? I still think the fact that Bitcoin's never lived through economic turmoil such as we currently have -- and I won't pretend I don't think it'll only get worse before it gets better for everyone around the world -- means we cannot reliably hope that BTC market trends will shrug off the 3 consecutive quarters with a Christmas rally.

As for Q4 which is a short term move, am bullish on this one and I see us closing the year around $21k-$25k before the big move Wink

For me closing at 21k is just extending consolidation, still can't tell -- again because of the shitstorm happening around us economically -- if this results in massive drawdown or energised rally.

$25k closing would make me feel a lot better for sure.

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