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October 05, 2022, 11:03:13 PM |
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None of these fights are sanctioned, there's no official scoring or winner. So my question is: How is it even possible to place bets on such fights if no official winner is announced?
I would bet on Floyd winning every single one of these but then again, how does this even work if no scoring is done?
Floyd is fighting again some huge UK Youtuber "Deji" in a couple of weeks, I would place bets but I don't want to end up scammed given the grey area of this whole exhibiton fights thing.
It's simple if there will be no winner or loser its useless to bet on these matches I never bet on exhibition matches even on other sports because there's a lack of seriousness on the part of the competing team or individuals, it is for entertainment purposes only, but there are exhibition that has declared winners, Jake's Paul exhibition matches generate interest because it doesn't look like an exhibition the way he knocks out his opponents, the same way professionals fought each other. Only bet on real matches not on exhibitions because manipulation can happen in exhibition matches.
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October 05, 2022, 11:45:24 PM |
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There is little information about this matter. What we know is that most bookmakers don't offer exhibition matches bets to their customers, because after all there isn't a winner and the only purpose of the fight is entertainment for the public and donation campaigns in some cases.
I suppose the few sportsbooks offering these bets reach to a final conclusion based on the performance of each fighter. The one who shows visible superior quality must be considered the winner by the casinos.
Since it is a exhibition fight, it must not be hard to guess the superior fighter, as these matches usually feature celebrities against professional fighters. So you can expect the odds to be really disproportionate.
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October 05, 2022, 11:59:32 PM |
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There is little information about this matter. What we know is that most bookmakers don't offer exhibition matches bets to their customers, because after all there isn't a winner and the only purpose of the fight is entertainment for the public and donation campaigns in some cases.
I suppose the few sportsbooks offering these bets reach to a final conclusion based on the performance of each fighter. The one who shows visible superior quality must be considered the winner by the casinos.
Since it is a exhibition fight, it must not be hard to guess the superior fighter, as these matches usually feature celebrities against professional fighters. So you can expect the odds to be really disproportionate.
Most of bookmakers wont really be giving out lines available for these fights specially if its a cross-sport involved in between which it is really just bright as day on who would be the winner. Therefore, its obvious that they wont really be giving out odds, if there are then it would be 1.01x .. Do people find out for these numbers to be interesting? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Even if you arent a sports lover, you would eventually find out on whose ass would be beaten up.
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October 06, 2022, 09:42:51 PM |
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Usually if there's no judge, there must be a way to have a winner on it based on what the bookies will represent how they'll call it as a win.
But it's better to have that idea of avoiding them if you're having that hard time in thinking who could be the winner if there are no judges present on an exhibition match.
Or before betting, you may ask the bookie that you're going to bet about how they're going to determine the winner of a match, I think that's okay to do.
Just that common sense, you would eventually find out on how they would be declaring the winner.If there are judges then its good to make out some bet and of course we would really be sticking with the obvious favorite of the said exhibition fight but if there's no referee then its better not to make out some bets.There's no way to determine and could really be ending up on having a draw or something like that. We've seen lots of exhibition matches, some of them arent been offered by bookies specially into those very obvious results or outcome of a certain fight. I think that's out of this world fight, even an exhibition match requires a referee. I haven't seen a boxing match that doesn't have a referee, even a not professional fight, like for the amateurs. There's still a referee. So, I don't think that there will be an instance that exhibition matches will have no referee unless it's written on the contract on the boxers that are involved in that fight. As for the bookies, they sure have a standard that's set in determining that and what's the obvious that will appear for their declared winner.
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October 06, 2022, 11:25:37 PM |
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Exhibition bouts are becoming increasingly successful in selling PPVs. Basically what it means is that there's your regular card setup with 4 fights (I mostly see this in boxing) and at least one has some big name that attracts a ton of public. For instance, Mayweather's last exhibiton fight has over 4 million views in japan: This is the trend now started by the Paul brothers and then taken up by popular retired boxers, it's not easy to launch exhibitions like this, you need a big fan base that is willing to support you, for the Paul brothers it's their Youtube followers, for Mayweather, of course, his boxing fans, it's still generating excitement. None of these fights are sanctioned, there's no official scoring or winner. So my question is: How is it even possible to place bets on such fights if no official winner is announced? Some exhibitions do have winners but an exhibition is just a show-up if they are not going to announce winners you don't have to bet, it will just be a cause of argument if you bet against someone Floyd is fighting again some huge UK Youtuber "Deji" in a couple of weeks, I would place bets but I don't want to end up scammed given the grey area of this whole exhibiton fights thing. Floyd is going to win for the obvious reasons he is a legendary and undefeated boxer what can a Youtuber do against Floyd, it's better not to pay attention to these exhibitions if there is no rule that there should be a winner.
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October 06, 2022, 11:40:46 PM |
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None of these fights are sanctioned, there's no official scoring or winner. So my question is: How is it even possible to place bets on such fights if no official winner is announced?
Gambling sites are not listing all exhibition matches basically because of an obvious reason. If there will be any bets, they should be seen on the actual venue managed by random guys who are taking advantage of that situation. And even if that was listed on a gambling site, expect betting options in favor of Mayweather Jr. will have low odds that are not worth placing a bet on.
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October 06, 2022, 11:54:57 PM |
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None of these fights are sanctioned, there's no official scoring or winner. So my question is: How is it even possible to place bets on such fights if no official winner is announced?
Gambling sites are not listing all exhibition matches basically because of an obvious reason. If there will be any bets, they should be seen on the actual venue managed by random guys who are taking advantage of that situation. And even if that was listed on a gambling site, expect betting options in favor of Mayweather Jr. will have low odds that are not worth placing a bet on. Come to think of it Mayweather against a Youtuber, will this attract bettors, and will bookies get interested in this matchup, this is for entertainment only, the winner here is obvious, but there are exhibition matches that are worth it, like the coming Silva - Paul fight, but we never know if there are talks on the results because it's easy to fix an exhibition and if they are accused of fixing, they will just say of course its exhibition ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) .
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October 06, 2022, 11:59:46 PM |
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I would bet on Floyd winning every single one of these but then again, how does this even work if no scoring is done?
Not possible as I don't remember gambling sites listing an exhibition match involving Floyd Mayweather Jr. I think they already learned from the experience when Mayweather Jr fought against one of the Paul brothers and in the end, no winners were announced and that is not disclosed on the terms that's why betting sites listed that fight. The betting was canceled and the bets are refunded. That's what I remember and if I'm wrong, somebody can correct me.
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October 07, 2022, 12:40:46 AM |
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None of these fights are sanctioned, there's no official scoring or winner. So my question is: How is it even possible to place bets on such fights if no official winner is announced?
I usually do not bet on exhibition matches as most of the time these matches are fixed and their result is pre-decided. Also, what do you mean by the official winner is not announced? There is always a result in these matches. So if you are betting on an exhibition match, the gambling houses will settle the bet in the favor of whoever won the bet. So settling the bet on an exhibition match will never be an issue.
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October 07, 2022, 03:24:30 AM |
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Exhibition bouts are becoming increasingly successful in selling PPVs. Basically what it means is that there's your regular card setup with 4 fights (I mostly see this in boxing) and at least one has some big name that attracts a ton of public. For instance, Mayweather's last exhibiton fight has over 4 million views in japan:
If I do not misunderstand the exhibition match is one type of match called 'friendship' this is a bet not included in the competition or tournament, yes, usually often bet on sports betting, including boxing, can be said to be an unofficial type of bet. Bets like exhibitions are often made for boxers who have had a career like you mentioned, I mean those who have good odds when fighting, usually done by many bettors in exhibition bets as a charity and entertainment for fans, usually such bets to get the best points for the coach, so they can put the best boxer in the ring. In friendship soccer matches or any other type of sports i've seen there's official scoring. What im saying here is, there is no scoring, no real way to know who won in order to see who won the gamble, thus how is it even possible to place bets on such events? Also I've heard k-1 was involved in several fixed fights during the Prime era, so the shadow of doubt is there involving these exhibitions. These KO's look a bit weird if you ask me but you never know. If you get hit on a place were the stability is lost it can look kinda funny when you try to get back up.
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October 07, 2022, 06:48:11 AM |
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The sites where I play, do not offer bets on exhibition matches...so I cannot see why some bookmakers and casinos can actually offer that to their users. I think they might offer a bet on a knockout, because it is very clear who wins the fight in that instance.... but any other outcome will be very controversial. Even if they offer bets on exhibition matches, I will not bet on it.... because these exhibition matches are money printers and publicity stunts. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Before, I don't usually bet on this type of game as they are a waste of time and effort to watch. But now, if there's an available line I try them and pick the favorite player or team in other sports. They mostly win in my experience although it's not that rewarding as the favorites are given lower profits. Referee stoppage on what round could be the choice in boxing if they won't score it.
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Before, I don't usually bet on this type of game as they are a waste of time and effort to watch. But now, if there's an available line I try them and pick the favorite player or team in other sports. They mostly win in my experience although it's not that rewarding as the favorites are given lower profits. Referee stoppage on what round could be the choice in boxing if they won't score it.
One of the sport I do not bet on is boxing, I prefer the big matches which are not too often. On big matches, I like the odds because they are of big odds that can yield good return. I am not gambling for the money sake, but for fun of it, but I do not like to lose. About this exhibition matches, I can not go for it, the odds on favorites are small and the favorite can most likely win, going for big odd is likely a loss. I prefer to just go for bigger odds and the reason I can not go for exhibition matches. Exhibition are not real to me, they are just for fun and not yielding good return.
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Even if they offer bets on exhibition matches, I will not bet on it.... because these exhibition matches are money printers and publicity stunts. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Right, that is all for public publicity and for the money for both fighters involved, Nevertheless, there are fans that are willing to pay them with big money, so no complains for 'exhibition fighters'. But for those gamblers, still up to them, but personally, I'm will not bet on any fights, because most likely it is already been arranged as how the fight will end ever if there is a judge to score the fight.
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Most sportsbooks don't accept exhibition matches afaik? Since as you said, there's a rather vague area in it that most won't risk taking. I'd honestly avoid it if you can, especially if you're seeing the gray areas yourself. If ever I'd think sportsbooks would only put out odds on the match results itself, who won and who lost, and even then I'd doubt they'd actually add it since, well, most exhibition matches have very big skill gaps between the competitors.
If I am one of the owner of such kind of biz then I think ill also do the same thing. I don't want to be blamed and I don't want my reputation gets destroyed easily only because the bettors think the results are manipulated. If a sportsbook can avoid it, then the same thing should also be doing by the bettors. They better avoid this kind of betting as well if they are serious and can't afford to lose. Watching a match like this is already enough to give us a great entertainment and there's no need to ask for more. I don't think they will put the odds of the match results if they won't allow such betting at the first place. It just don't make sense.
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There is little information about this matter. What we know is that most bookmakers don't offer exhibition matches bets to their customers, because after all there isn't a winner and the only purpose of the fight is entertainment for the public and donation campaigns in some cases.
I suppose the few sportsbooks offering these bets reach to a final conclusion based on the performance of each fighter. The one who shows visible superior quality must be considered the winner by the casinos.
Since it is a exhibition fight, it must not be hard to guess the superior fighter, as these matches usually feature celebrities against professional fighters. So you can expect the odds to be really disproportionate.
It is not necessary for matches will be added to the list of gambling casino because those are not totally official fights like sparring and training it is just a preparation for the upcoming fights and of course it is not too much serious so it is hard for the people to make a decision in betting because anything can happen like throwing the match so basically not needed to be added in the list.
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None of these fights are sanctioned, there's no official scoring or winner. So my question is: How is it even possible to place bets on such fights if no official winner is announced?
If there are no scoring and no announcement then it's obvious that no betting should be cast, but you can bet if there is knock out in an exhibition fight but it's not going to be on bookies, you can bet against any of your friends, exhibitions don't attract bettors because it can be manipulated and there are rumors that these exhibitions are fixed, its better to bet on real boxing and let exhibition be for entertainment only, it is for pure entertainment only nothing else.
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Exhibition bouts are becoming increasingly successful in selling PPVs. Basically what it means is that there's your regular card setup with 4 fights (I mostly see this in boxing) and at least one has some big name that attracts a ton of public. For instance, Mayweather's last exhibiton fight has over 4 million views in japan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq0BSRFM9PwNone of these fights are sanctioned, there's no official scoring or winner. So my question is: How is it even possible to place bets on such fights if no official winner is announced? I would bet on Floyd winning every single one of these but then again, how does this even work if no scoring is done? Floyd is fighting again some huge UK Youtuber "Deji" in a couple of weeks, I would place bets but I don't want to end up scammed given the grey area of this whole exhibiton fights thing. You already said it yourself, exhibition fights are not sanctioned and there's no determined winner because in the first place there are no judges who will score the said bout. There's no use on betting in these kind of fights because the purpose of these fights is to give pure entertainment to the fighter's fans and audience. Also, Mayweather already said that he won't fight any fighter that is near his caliber even if it's just an exhibition bout, so it's safe to assume that he is just accepting fights where his wins are guaranteed.
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October 08, 2022, 07:35:47 PM |
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If there are no scoring and no announcement then it's obvious that no betting should be cast, but you can bet if there is knock out in an exhibition fight but it's not going to be on bookies, you can bet against any of your friends, exhibitions don't attract bettors because it can be manipulated and there are rumors that these exhibitions are fixed, its better to bet on real boxing and let exhibition be for entertainment only, it is for pure entertainment only nothing else.
I think it has all the things you mention, I'm not pro or I don't have prior experience with exhibition matches but he can try to bet on it, If I'm not mistaken, exhibition matches is just like a friendly match or just like a preparation match before a boxer main event. I just wonder if there's a website that would list a match like this or this is only a pure p2p betting.
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October 08, 2022, 08:26:24 PM |
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If there are no scoring and no announcement then it's obvious that no betting should be cast, but you can bet if there is knock out in an exhibition fight but it's not going to be on bookies, you can bet against any of your friends, exhibitions don't attract bettors because it can be manipulated and there are rumors that these exhibitions are fixed, its better to bet on real boxing and let exhibition be for entertainment only, it is for pure entertainment only nothing else.
I think it has all the things you mention, I'm not pro or I don't have prior experience with exhibition matches but he can try to bet on it, If I'm not mistaken, exhibition matches is just like a friendly match or just like a preparation match before a boxer main event. I just wonder if there's a website that would list a match like this or this is only a pure p2p betting. Dont know on the thing you had mentioned about preparation for main event.Exhibition matches turns out to be the main event.You cant really see this stuff on a main or official match which would really be lining itself into that part. You could actually see this on some sportsbook, but thats if they would tend to offer some odds but pretty sure that odds would really be that obvious on whom you would be betting on. Odds for the ML or main favorite isnt really just too worth for you to take risk.Most of the time bookies doesnt offer any betting for these exhibition matches. If there are some available betting line then for sure people would just in line with the favorites and viola. Easy money.
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