Every signal is a speculation

[Zilon]

I have had experience dealing with crypto experts who provide signals with lots of indicators, strategies and analysis and i came to discover no one is a master of the market. Some analysis can go with the trend some against the trend, Some might profit on a long term, some on a short term while others only project loses.

With the rate at which speculation of price keeps getting different views as the day goes by i think it will be wise if everyone who owns, buys, hodl and trade bitcoin learn about chart interpretations and fundamental analysis impact on Bitcoin. The fact here is volatility has come to stay and as such knowing how to go about your analysis should be a necessity for Bitcoin holders.

[jackg]

If you're getting signals from channels on places like Discord or telegram too, it might be possible to look at how the person giving the signals actually works them out. A lot of the good ones seem to have patterns that can be seen on the 4h or daily chart and normally pick the most volatile coins - it's not the worst supplemental to working it out as long as you use enough data points from them (and be aware they might use other timeframes - even non standard ones - and indicators to come up with their strategies so it's not perfect).

[Quidat]

If you're getting signals from channels on places like Discord or telegram too, it might be possible to look at how the person giving the signals actually works them out. A lot of the good ones seem to have patterns that can be seen on the 4h or daily chart and normally pick the most volatile coins - it's not the worst supplemental to working it out as long as you use enough data points from them (and be aware they might use other timeframes - even non standard ones - and indicators to come up with their strategies so it's not perfect).

Timeframe is one of the common things that people do ignore or mistakenly able to check.Its not bad to look out on others speculations and analysis.A good trader would definitely be finding out
some resources for him to at least justify on what he had made out for himself.Looking on other angle might be one of the strategy to make up some confirmation towards his possible trades.
Its true that every word that comes out into this space would really be 100% speculation.Fuck off into those people who had said about 100% winning trading strategy since it doesnt
exist on the first place.Nothing is perfect and knowing trading would involved a never ending trial and error.

[OgNasty]

All of these “signals” are just daytraders working as a hive mind to recreate the patterns they learned. In my opinion, you’re better off ignoring the noise and following the 4-year Bitcoin cycle. Try to grow your holdings with activity outside of trading and sell when the amount you’ve stacked can change your life. Trading signals work until they don’t, and with a lot of traders that “don’t” wipes them out.

[Baofeng]

I have had experience dealing with crypto experts who provide signals with lots of indicators, strategies and analysis and i came to discover no one is a master of the market. Some analysis can go with the trend some against the trend, Some might profit on a long term, some on a short term while others only project loses.

I guess it's a hard lesson for everyone, specially for newbies are bought that idea that there are so called experts in this market who can predict the price movement with their technical analysis. Maybe they can hit it though, but most of the time, it's a miss, just saying

With the rate at which speculation of price keeps getting different views as the day goes by i think it will be wise if everyone who owns, buys, hodl and trade bitcoin learn about chart interpretations and fundamental analysis impact on Bitcoin. The fact here is volatility has come to stay and as such knowing how to go about your analysis should be a necessity for Bitcoin holders.

We are not totally against technical indicators because it can help us to some extend. But we should have our own interpretation and only we hold it. So if it fails then nobody will blame us, and at least we will learn from our mistakes.

[Scripture]

We can't totally rely on those Signals, you can just use it as your guide but never rely to those signals.
Some pages are sharing their signals as effective analysis just to attract subscribers since for sure most of them have their own signal group which requires them to pay some fees just to be accepted on that group. I'm still on a stage of learning how to properly trade, this may take some time but I know this is more worth it.

[BITCOIN4X]

We can't totally rely on those Signals, you can just use it as your guide but never rely to those signals.
Some pages are sharing their signals as effective analysis just to attract subscribers since for sure most of them have their own signal group which requires them to pay some fees just to be accepted on that group. I'm still on a stage of learning how to properly trade, this may take some time but I know this is more worth it.

Of course not, relying entirely on other people's signals is not recommended. You have to be very wise to invest your money in crypto assets, those signals can help but in the end only you will bear the consequences.

I have no experience of receiving these trading signals either on telegram or in other trading groups, but some people have also managed to make a profit while being a member of the group. Especially about altcoin, I prefer to avoid them instead of directly investing for some capital. So in the end, you can trust these trading signals but you have to have something good to keep you going wisely.

[Charles-Tim]

With the rate at which speculation of price keeps getting different views as the day goes by i think it will be wise if everyone who owns, buys, hodl and trade bitcoin learn about chart interpretations and fundamental analysis impact on Bitcoin. The fact here is volatility has come to stay and as such knowing how to go about your analysis should be a necessity for Bitcoin holders.

This advice is for traders, not for holders. Holders follow a long pattern that can easily be know if not following charts, but holders too can follow charts using a long range of candles like weekly or monthly candles, but holders are not more moved by the candle stick pattern and indicators, but believe more about bull and bear market which can easily be known from the present price of bitcoin and the present all-time-high. This would determine whether to hold or not.

[buwaytress]

All of these “signals” are just daytraders working as a hive mind to recreate the patterns they learned. In my opinion, you’re better off ignoring the noise and following the 4-year Bitcoin cycle. Try to grow your holdings with activity outside of trading and sell when the amount you’ve stacked can change your life. Trading signals work until they don’t, and with a lot of traders that “don’t” wipes them out.

Reminds me of popular crowd wisdom projects that came up around the last ATH, convinced that hive mind projections were more accurate over the long term, forgetting also that in rallies, almost every pick is likely to rake in profits, forgetting that the hive is just a lot of traders following only a handful.

Major funds all reporting profits and losses at the same time, at the same periods also prove that experts and career traders can't really trade outside the noise.

So yeah. Longer term holds understanding that you will be in the red most of the time in crypto, the better way to go. So long as halving patterns hold, anyway.

[blockman]

Volatility is in the nature of bitcoin and the whole crypto market in itself. That's why anyone who wants to deal with the market on a daily basis or most time has to learn how to read charts and learn the skill of analysis.
But if someone just want to remain as a holder and accumulate everytime the market is in dip, then that's the typical way of being an investor without the hassle of learning those except fundamental analysis.

[Yamifoud]

I have had experience dealing with crypto experts who provide signals with lots of indicators, strategies and analysis and i came to discover no one is a master of the market. Some analysis can go with the trend some against the trend, Some might profit on a long term, some on a short term while others only project loses.

And it was confusing...
Indeed, many people are self-claimed experts and they are giving signals to those who wanted it. I don't know what is their basis for trusting someone who does this as for me, they are just like us which are also relying on the price chart and of course, the capability to speculate the market. If we are about to spend the market and trying hard to analyze it, I believe we can do even better with these experts.

I believe there are some experts who really exist but it was different in crypto where it is absolutely unpredictable, unlike the others.

[jrrsparkles]

I have had experience dealing with crypto experts who provide signals with lots of indicators, strategies and analysis and i came to discover no one is a master of the market. Some analysis can go with the trend some against the trend, Some might profit on a long term, some on a short term while others only project loses.

With the rate at which speculation of price keeps getting different views as the day goes by i think it will be wise if everyone who owns, buys, hodl and trade bitcoin learn about chart interpretations and fundamental analysis impact on Bitcoin. The fact here is volatility has come to stay and as such knowing how to go about your analysis should be a necessity for Bitcoin holders.

Every investment is a speculation though and from that only the people are making money, for the fact they say experience, analysis, knowledge,etc but in reality they all are trying to guess the movement at every moment so they can make money. As an individual we should not get distracted by so called signals coming from others because its simply the manipulation is coming up and one who got mich influence will get more benefits.

[STT]

The more simple the analyis the more reliable it can be, I dont like the signal I dont have a good personal feel for.   Very simple take to me would be to note off the series of highest price, take week, month or whatever but whats the highest price in that period and what is the lowest.  Then we simply say is the series rising or falling in those peaks and lows.
   It might be contradictory or it can add some clarity ditto all these fancy measures and readings.   RIght now I think its quite clear, we got highs descending (every month) and if this latest October pricing tops out at 20k not even 21k this is once again lower; its a negative trend we have to note that bias.   Support can be overwhelmed or heavily challenged if we continue like this, theres no space left to manoeuvre.

[_BlackStar]

Analysis are just predictions.
And it’s not 100% accurate as it is predictions. So yup, no matter how strong signals you great from how big trader, there is some risk factors involved in it.
Yup every signal is just speculation, so we should always be careful with that.

The analysis made either based on technical or fundamental analysis is ultimately just a prediction. That's not entirely true so it would make a lot of people speculate about it. Likewise with trading signals, so in the end only predictions from analysis will support trading and investment activities.

Once the bear market gets over, definitely the price will jump to the sky, so accordingly invest.

The market will recover, that's certainly to be expected. But I don't think this advice will suit everyone especially if they don't do analysis, so it shouldn't be for financial advice.

[gantez]

Analysis are just predictions.

Once the bear market gets over, definitely the price will jump to the sky, so accordingly invest.

This is another speculation or prediction It is not a fact to conclude because it is not happening immediately that a bear is over that the bull get price to sky. This can take some time before the bull take over. The time for this to happen is important so being careful and not to enter in rush is better. I only can say after halving is when the bull start to happen.

[Mpamaegbu]

Analysis are just predictions.

Once the bear market gets over, definitely the price will jump to the sky, so accordingly invest.

This is another speculation or prediction ... I only can say after halving is when the bull start to happen.

For emphasis, what you said there also is a speculation 🤔. The bottom line is that this industry is speculative in nature and that's why some people erroneously say it's akin to gambling (it's not, actually). I guess the speculative nature stems from the fact that nobody knows tomorrow. The crypto industry is based on what happens in the future/tomorrow, we only can speculate on where price will be going. No one is certain what happens next. If anyone knew of certitude where price will be headed to that person will be made for life. Again, due to the uncertainty in this speculative industry, investors are warned ahead to only invest what they can afford to lose.

[Silberman]

We can't totally rely on those Signals, you can just use it as your guide but never rely to those signals.
Some pages are sharing their signals as effective analysis just to attract subscribers since for sure most of them have their own signal group which requires them to pay some fees just to be accepted on that group. I'm still on a stage of learning how to properly trade, this may take some time but I know this is more worth it.

Of course not, relying entirely on other people's signals is not recommended. You have to be very wise to invest your money in crypto assets, those signals can help but in the end only you will bear the consequences.

I have no experience of receiving these trading signals either on telegram or in other trading groups, but some people have also managed to make a profit while being a member of the group. Especially about altcoin, I prefer to avoid them instead of directly investing for some capital. So in the end, you can trust these trading signals but you have to have something good to keep you going wisely.

And this is why following those signals groups is not recommended, even if the person behind the group is not looking to scam you or charge you money for the signals he is giving, at the end the one that needs to endure the potential losses will be you, and are you willing to suffer huge losses to your capital to the point it could affect your future just because a stranger on the Internet told you it was a good idea to buy now? Because I know I will never take a risk like that.

[adaseb]

Look if somebody knows how to actually make money in this market and they have some edge, they aren't going to give you this info for free or for $50/month. Why would they when you got up to 100x leverage these days. Doesn't make sense to sell these signals instead of profitting off themselves.

This is how so many people get tricked and they end up losing all their money plus the fees they paid to join these paid groups. They are all scams. But when you are new and instead of guessing what to buy or sell, you need to learn somehow. Most people rather copy peoples trades rather than learn and trade on their own.

[goaldigger]

Analysis are just predictions.
And it’s not 100% accurate as it is predictions. So yup, no matter how strong signals you great from how big trader, there is some risk factors involved in it.
Yup every signal is just speculation, so we should always be careful with that.
Once the bear market gets over, definitely the price will jump to the sky, so accordingly invest.

Predictions, trading analysis and signal are all just a speculation and it’s not a guaranteed analysis so better not to expect that much, just hope that the market will go in favor of your analysis. It’s also good to have a target price to sell and cut loss price, this can save your money if the market goes against your analysis. Speculation will always be here, at any market trends so if you see opportunity that can make you profitable, grab it and repeat the good strategy.

[stomachgrowls]

Analysis are just predictions.
And it’s not 100% accurate as it is predictions. So yup, no matter how strong signals you great from how big trader, there is some risk factors involved in it.
Yup every signal is just speculation, so we should always be careful with that.
Once the bear market gets over, definitely the price will jump to the sky, so accordingly invest.

Predictions, trading analysis and signal are all just a speculation and it’s not a guaranteed analysis so better not to expect that much, just hope that the market will go in favor of your analysis. It’s also good to have a target price to sell and cut loss price, this can save your money if the market goes against your analysis. Speculation will always be here, at any market trends so if you see opportunity that can make you profitable, grab it and repeat the good strategy.

On a speculative market or unpredictable market then it would really be just these analysis would really be turning out to be pure speculation.This is why it would really be ideal that you shouldnt really make yourself

believe that there are people who do make out 100% precise predictions because it cant really be just possible.Nothing beats out if you do make your own analysis rather than on seeing or relying into others analysis.

Whenever others analysis gone wrong then it would really be that regretful or do give out that kind of feeling that you shouldnt have done that on the first place.
Well, charge to experience which these learnings do usually come from.You would really soon realize on what must be done.