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October 08, 2022, 11:31:05 PM
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Analysis are just predictions.
And it’s not 100% accurate as it is predictions. So yup, no matter how strong signals you great from how big trader, there is some risk factors involved in it.
Yup every signal is just speculation, so we should always be careful with that.
Once the bear market gets over, definitely the price will jump to the sky, so accordingly invest.
Predictions, trading analysis and signal are all just a speculation and it’s not a guaranteed analysis so better not to expect that much, just hope that the market will go in favor of your analysis.
I tend to agree with this and as matter of fact, the market is unpredictable so all of these are 100% pure speculations.
That's why I always discourage newbies who seek trading signals, instead of looking for a good one they will have their own research.  Because those are also traders who speculate the market the advantage is they've possibly more knowledgeable than you.

There's no one beat if you're a long-term holder and aim for a perfect price to cut your profit.

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October 09, 2022, 01:29:16 PM
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Any signal of course we can make a technique or method for speculating, this is natural because investment conditions are strongly influenced by external factors, for example if there is an official legalization of bitcoin in a country it will make investors immediately buy bitcoin because great opportunities will rise.
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October 09, 2022, 07:10:42 PM
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I have had experience dealing with crypto experts who provide signals with lots of indicators, strategies and analysis and i came to discover no one is a master of the market. Some analysis can go with the trend some against the trend, Some might profit.
I want give you a little Clue, signal of cryptocurrency never be hundred percent (%100) sure, so it's not something you will be dependable because analysis is been given or present to the public because of the way of understanding the facts and read and interpret the chart of cryptocurrency movement. So therefore it's not reliable or trustworthy to any crypto signal as a certain. The interpretation of two crypto signal's can be differs.

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October 09, 2022, 08:18:57 PM
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I have had experience dealing with crypto experts who provide signals with lots of indicators, strategies and analysis and i came to discover no one is a master of the market. Some analysis can go with the trend some against the trend, Some might profit on a long term, some on a short term while others only project loses.
I think less speculation if you want to invest. So that we are not disappointed in the face of a bear market. I think the current market conditions many people are disappointed, because their assets are delayed at the top of the order. But if we intend to invest, of course we do not think the order is at the peak will not worry us, we will hold it. Because the Bitcoin market will again get the best price. If not this year, then next year, or next year again. No need to panic, no need for them to be disappointed in themselves. It's crypto, there will be a time when dreams come true.

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October 09, 2022, 11:43:23 PM
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Take crypto signals at your own risk. There are all the kinds of signals on the market, pointing to every possible and imaginable directions and it will be up to you to pick the right one among so many. How can we be right and sure when choosing one signal, then? I fear it is not possible, so we have to risk anyway. What we can do in order to minimize the risks is to pick long term predictions instead of relying on signals which promise short term returns.

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October 09, 2022, 11:56:26 PM
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Take crypto signals at your own risk. There are all the kinds of signals on the market, pointing to every possible and imaginable directions and it will be up to you to pick the right one among so many. How can we be right and sure when choosing one signal, then? I fear it is not possible, so we have to risk anyway. What we can do in order to minimize the risks is to pick long term predictions instead of relying on signals which promise short term returns.
Im never a fan of crypto signals or whatsoever Guru or mentors that we do have in the market and calling themselves profitable or professionals.They wont really be asking out some followers and asking for some

sub fees if they are profitable in the first place.This is the main logic and common sense i do have in mind is that all of us are speculators and there's no such thing about 100% precision in towards trading
and speculating on where prices would be going.

Its better to be dependent on your own trading style and methods which you would be the ones who would be making those analysis of yours
and not depending on others.
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October 10, 2022, 06:15:22 AM
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I have had experience dealing with crypto experts who provide signals with lots of indicators, strategies and analysis and i came to discover no one is a master of the market. Some analysis can go with the trend some against the trend, Some might profit on a long term, some on a short term while others only project loses.

With the rate at which speculation of price keeps getting different views as the day goes by i think it will be wise if everyone who owns, buys, hodl and trade bitcoin learn about chart interpretations and fundamental analysis impact on Bitcoin. The fact here is volatility has come to stay and as such knowing how to go about your analysis should be a necessity for Bitcoin holders.

I agree with you,  Carry out your personal research or before investing or holding in the community will really help you in this bearish season,  because many traders missed it some years ago that made them to learned their lesson never to follow other traders prediction than to use their own strategies. I think, those that will exercise patience with this current market situation will have something massive to achieve in the future, because the bearish season is coming to an end soon to allow the holders to smile again. I believe, many traders will get it right this time because they are fully ready to use their own analysis to get it right.

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I guess it depends on how one uses Crypto. If someone is new and wants to invest as little as possible, maybe some advice and hints from some expert traders should also be considered as Crypto is for true anonymity, starting with market cap and so on.

Technical analysis and how to apply it, I'm a fan of both using the lagging indicator method and using the fast stochastic oscillator to enter and exit positions. That is, an indicator that will help you open positions at the beginning of the trend and close them when the price returns to its average.

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October 10, 2022, 02:54:22 PM
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People just too easy fall in the cheap tricks.

Those who selling signals for a couple bucks and telling you the 'too good to be true' story .. are the one who sell nothing but a random or baseless prediction.
Those who selling it for an expensive one , probably having a thorough / deep research / knowledge , yet it won't guarantee you anything but an occasional true prediction as well as an occasional wrong prediction which means ... the market will always unpredictable , making profit not just through prediction but the strategy on how you mange the profit and loss into a long term profit.

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October 10, 2022, 04:22:02 PM
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I tend to agree with this and as matter of fact, the market is unpredictable so all of these are 100% pure speculations.
That's why I always discourage newbies who seek trading signals, instead of looking for a good one they will have their own research.  Because those are also traders who speculate the market the advantage is they've possibly more knowledgeable than you.

There's no one beat if you're a long-term holder and aim for a perfect price to cut your profit.
It is definitely a very risky thing to trade based on signals because the market is unexpected and that means you can't technically get the situation handled by just checking the singals, they will not tell you which will do better and which will do worse.

There is no scenario where crypto will be doing something that would be predictable enough that someone could give dozens even hundreds of people signals to take position before it happens. At the end of the day crypto is volatile, and you should buy trying to buy low and sell high, that’s the only piece of advice that would work for you, and wait for bitcoin to crash (like now) and buy, and then wait for the bull run and sell.

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October 10, 2022, 07:42:25 PM
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Every signal is a speculation but not a baseless speculation. This is a speculation according to the present chart movement compared to how the chart have moved previously. Indeed signals fail, but good signals don't fall, they only deviate to a certain degree.
The whole crypto market is full of speculations, nothing is sure, we keep speculating. That is just the nature of the industry.

Then the challenge lies on those who depend on these calculated and baseless speculations to earn a living (traders), the long term investors are free from some of the effects of these speculations.

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October 11, 2022, 11:50:00 AM
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Maybe they are truly a master in terms of their long term experience in this market where they already know every terms and strategies but master where they never fail to profit is kinda impossible. After all they are still a normal human, not a god or something which has a super powers to detect the price movement of the coin and make a trade according to it.

This is why it's better to learn on your own so that you won't be disappointed when the one that you are following failed you. At least when you fail in your own, it's more easy to accept. Cryptocurrencies are a speculative assets so you are right with what you have said in your title.

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October 11, 2022, 11:58:56 AM
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Maybe they are truly a master in terms of their long term experience in this market where they already know every terms and strategies but master where they never fail to profit is kinda impossible. After all they are still a normal human, not a god or something which has a super powers to detect the price movement of the coin and make a trade according to it.

This is why it's better to learn on your own so that you won't be disappointed when the one that you are following failed you. At least when you fail in your own, it's more easy to accept. Cryptocurrencies are a speculative assets so you are right with what you have said in your title.
And besides, we can't change how it looks like. All of the things it appears in our mind that will happen in the future or even today are purely speculative but because of our experience, we consider it as close to perfection. However, people are still happy doing this and it is somewhat a sort of motivation to them. it was been a practice by now, even a newbie can make their own. That is why I don't really trust signal groups as they are also like us who does speculations and sometimes baseless speculations.
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Indeed it is speculation, but if they can explain well why they got the position, I don't think it is speculation without reason. And for people who get that signal, you should be more careful because we don't know whether the signal will come true or if it's just an ordinary signal telling us to buy or sell it. Everything will come back to you, and you should be able to analyze it further to find additional information that may be useful in making a decision. So if you get a signal, try to research further to get a good position to buy or sell.

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October 11, 2022, 03:52:09 PM
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Indeed it is speculation, but if they can explain well why they got the position, I don't think it is speculation without reason. And for people who get that signal, you should be more careful because we don't know whether the signal will come true or if it's just an ordinary signal telling us to buy or sell it. Everything will come back to you, and you should be able to analyze it further to find additional information that may be useful in making a decision. So if you get a signal, try to research further to get a good position to buy or sell.
It will still be speculation unless it already proves to be right or when that signal happens. So we will need to understand why they came up with in that signal, some backup details pr information on how they manage to tell that that price will pump or be at that position. We should still do our research and not rely alone on signals since even the paid signals we can get from Telegram or other services didn't give profit.

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October 11, 2022, 07:36:33 PM
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Look if somebody knows how to actually make money in this market and they have some edge, they aren't going to give you this info for free or for $50/month. Why would they when you got up to 100x leverage these days. Doesn't make sense to sell these signals instead of profitting off themselves.

This is how so many people get tricked and they end up losing all their money plus the fees they paid to join these paid groups. They are all scams. But when you are new and instead of guessing what to buy or sell, you need to learn somehow. Most people rather copy peoples trades rather than learn and trade on their own.
It is just common sense but for some reason many people never think about this, information about the market is probably one of the most valuable pieces of information you can get, if you have a decent strategy to profit from the markets then the sky is the limit for a person like that, even if they started with an amount of money that was really small, given enough time they will be able to make a fortune, so such a small amount of money is simply never going to be enough to get good information about the future movements of the market.
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October 11, 2022, 11:59:45 PM
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Look if somebody knows how to actually make money in this market and they have some edge, they aren't going to give you this info for free or for $50/month. Why would they when you got up to 100x leverage these days. Doesn't make sense to sell these signals instead of profitting off themselves.

This is how so many people get tricked and they end up losing all their money plus the fees they paid to join these paid groups. They are all scams. But when you are new and instead of guessing what to buy or sell, you need to learn somehow. Most people rather copy peoples trades rather than learn and trade on their own.
It is just common sense but for some reason many people never think about this, information about the market is probably one of the most valuable pieces of information you can get, if you have a decent strategy to profit from the markets then the sky is the limit for a person like that, even if they started with an amount of money that was really small, given enough time they will be able to make a fortune, so such a small amount of money is simply never going to be enough to get good information about the future movements of the market.
You should make on your own and never ever make yourself get blinded into those people who do claim that they had high winning rate or profitability towards their analysis.It is really just a shit thing to believe on.
Every signal is indeed an speculation and no one could really able to tell on what would gonna happen into this market.Even to those professional or veterans doesnt really guarantee that they could give out
precise predictions.Its better to rely with your own analysis and findings rather than on making yourself rely into other signal which other people been making.
Some do even asking out for some fee or payment.

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Carry out your personal research or before investing or holding in the community will really help you in this bearish season,  because many traders missed it some years ago that made them to learned their lesson never to follow other traders prediction than to use their own strategies. I think, those that will exercise patience with this current market situation will have something massive to achieve in the future, because the bearish season is coming to an end soon to allow the holders to smile again. I believe, many traders will get it right this time because they are fully ready to use their own analysis to get it right.
I think it requires a bit of expertise to do that but it is better to study and learn and be better compared to just not doing it at all or taking information from other people. I am not going to listen to what some influencer who got paid to promote a project says, but if I do not know how to pick a coin at the right time, it's still better not to trade at all and not make any profits at all, instead of checking what those people say.

Study, there are a lot of resources available, and after you study and learn then you can start to trade and that way you would be making a good profit eventually all thanks to what you have achieved yourself. This is not a theoretical one but what I learned and practicing in my real life!

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Sometimes the advice of the some of the traders we all think that it's good or the best advice concerning the signals of cryptocurrency some of them are not correct because i believe that many of them are interpreting what they understand from their own signal group or work so the trust can't be hundred percent

I very rarely trust any signals if I want to trade or invest in the short term. Because the signal is made by someone based on his experience or based on advice from other people too, so I think there is no need to fully rely on advice about signals from other people because that person will not bear the loss you experience.

All of that is about the decision of each person who wants to believe in certain signals because with certainty it is also not necessarily one hundred percent correct, so it still requires more understanding before believing in signals that are told by others. Especially now that there are so many signal groups with a large number of members, and because those in the group are people we don't know, so I don't think you have to immediately believe the signals given by them will not be so bad for you personally
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~snip~
It will still be speculation unless it already proves to be right or when that signal happens. So we will need to understand why they came up with in that signal, some backup details pr information on how they manage to tell that that price will pump or be at that position. We should still do our research and not rely alone on signals since even the paid signals we can get from Telegram or other services didn't give profit.
If it's proven true, it's not speculation but has happened Grin

I wouldn't expect that signal if it came from a group on Telegram, but it's possible I'll research further to find out why they can get it or find out if the price will go down within an hour after this up. And if I feel unsure about it all, I'd better hang on and do nothing because if I keep pushing it, I can get into trouble later. Yes, we can only do research and analysis to find the right time to trade.

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