Every signal is a speculation

[darkangel11]

To make a decision, of course we need a signal, if the signal in the market looks positive then the opportunity to buy more, so it is common when we see any signal then it can be the first step for speculation.

No, we don't.

You don't need a signal to know you want to buy bitcoin. Fundamentals tell you all about that.
You don't need some wannabe oracle to tell you what you should do with your money. Don't trust these people, trust the technology that you're investing in!

crypto experts

Is there really such a title? I've been investing since 2014 and I'd never call myself a crypto expert.

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[Fatunad]

The trader certainly knows that all signals that occur in the market can be used as speculation, when in an hour there is an increase of more than 5% then we will think that the opportunity for rising is very large, but if in an hour the price of drops 5% then we will think that market opportunities will be red again.

Everything around in crypto when it talks about prices for the incoming are speculations, that was the reality. However, people are having fun with it and aside from that, this is a way also to make them more particular about the trend and this helps them understand the behavior of the market. There is nothing we can do in a volatile market like this but just draw conclusions based on the market movement. That is why TA and FA are very important when investing for this will guide us in choosing the best project to invest, not like a guessing situation.

And I do not understand why some people are mad about it, after all our lives are full of mistaken predictions and we take many mistaken actions because of them, for example if the weather report forecast that it is going to rain you take your umbrella with you, but if it does not rain then you brought your umbrella over nothing, but still it was a good idea to bring it just in case you needed it, and something similar happens with the predictions we make about the market, they are not completely reliable but it is better to have them than to not have them.

There no such thing about precise things and this is why speculation and prediction is something we do make.Yes, its true that even in tomorrows weather cant be 100% predicted.
You are right that people do really get mad or even blame out whenever these predictions turns out to be wrong or didnt happen and forgot that at least we had really been prepared.
Every signal is indeed speculation and this is why its never been suggested that you would be relying on others suggestions and tips considering that all of them are speculative.
This is which people should really be needing on having those analysis that made by ours.

[GeorgeJohn]

All of these “signals” are just daytraders working as a hive mind to recreate the patterns they learned. In my opinion, you’re better off ignoring the noise and following the 4-year Bitcoin cycle. Try to grow your holdings with activity outside of trading and sell when the amount you’ve stacked can change your life. Trading signals work until they don’t, and with a lot of traders that “don’t” wipes them out.

I don't think that the four years circle in cryptocurrency investment do exist again, because some times the market of cryptocurrency just rise and also Fall because of the market demand, what i noticed in cryptocurrency market is that the market demand, so in the aspect of holding a coin for long periods and whenever their is positive in cryptosphere and you sell, it's another strategies and another scenario concerning cryptocurrency investment.

[Pierre 2]

I spent years to explain this to my fellow friends and relatives here. They just join random telegram groups that they happened to see around twitter. They say it gives signals to buy specific coins to make money together. I always told people its mainly speculation and people use naive investors to make money through literally any coin. But people still follow this so called fortune tellers and im really bored with explaining it.

[Smack That Ace]

I spent years to explain this to my fellow friends and relatives here. They just join random telegram groups that they happened to see around twitter. They say it gives signals to buy specific coins to make money together. I always told people its mainly speculation and people use naive investors to make money through literally any coin. But people still follow this so called fortune tellers and im really bored with explaining it.

The signals from the telegram groups are no longer predictions but the signals in them are price manipulation by the group owners. To attract naive investors, they will use bots to find out which tokens have grown, then they start giving signals but most people won't buy in time because the price of those tokens has gone up. After a few such times, the investor will regret thinking that too many opportunities have been missed. At this point, the group owner will contact the developer of the shitcoins and buy a large amount of tokens at a cheap price. Then they start giving signals of that shitcoin to naive investors, when investors buy, it is also when the group owners and project developers silently sell all those tokens to investors. This is the common form of signal groups.

[kotajikikox]

I spent years to explain this to my fellow friends and relatives here. They just join random telegram groups that they happened to see around twitter. They say it gives signals to buy specific coins to make money together. I always told people its mainly speculation and people use naive investors to make money through literally any coin. But people still follow this so called fortune tellers and im really bored with explaining it.

I think the best advice is to let them experience, once they lose on those signals they will realize that there are no great masters in the market. I also joined the signal group on telegram but only when I lost my money did I know I was scammed, the previous advice I ignored because I thought I was always right.

Why need to let them lose when we can make a action to help them prevent this from happening? you are so cruel when you can give them advices but you denied that instead let them decide for themselves .

Signals are truly tricky and not trust worthy at all , but there are some paid signals(elite at least) that brings best result .

though i am not advising anyone from dealing with this kind if you love your money , search for your own and study.

[adzino]

All of them are speculations. No one can predict the market accurately. Anyone that claims that they signals are accurate, are most likely lying and trying to sell you something. Happens a lot in those "paid signal" groups. They give free obvious signals first, they build trust, and then they sell you "premium signals". All those signals that they give you are already available publicly. This is just another form of scamming. And then there are signal groups that pump and dump shitcoins. Join them and you will end up being a victim!

[serjent05]

I have had experience dealing with crypto experts who provide signals with lots of indicators, strategies and analysis and i came to discover no one is a master of the market. Some analysis can go with the trend some against the trend, Some might profit on a long term, some on a short term while others only project loses.

All the predictions created even by professional Technical Analysts are just speculation.  They just lay out the graph, speculate on where to put the indicators, and do the formula.  There is no one who can predict the future.

With the rate at which speculation of price keeps getting different views as the day goes by i think it will be wise if everyone who owns, buys, hodl and trade bitcoin learn about chart interpretations and fundamental analysis impact on Bitcoin. The fact here is volatility has come to stay and as such knowing how to go about your analysis should be a necessity for Bitcoin holders.

True, we need knowledge about Technical Analysis and Fundamental Analysis and most important how to synergize the two kinds of analysis.

I'm not cruel but I'm experienced, as a newbie, I've ignored everyone's advice and I think I'm doing the right thing. But when I had real experiences, I realized that I was wrong, completely wrong when I didn't listen to others. I lost money but I'm still glad I gained experience that no other advice could give me. You have to understand that sometimes losing money is not bad, losing money makes us more mature, so that we can learn lessons and we can make money from it, it is worth it.

It is wrong to ignore advice, but it is more wrong to not verify them.  As a learning process, we should be able to consider suggestions and advice, it can help us grow as a trader but we shouldn't follow it without verifying and analyzing the suggestions.  Following the suggestion blindly can cost us our trading capital.

[CageMabok]

I think the best advice is to let them experience, once they lose on those signals they will realize that there are no great masters in the market. I also joined the signal group on telegram but only when I lost my money did I know I was scammed, the previous advice I ignored because I thought I was always right.

Speculation about signals for market predictions is only a small help when someone starts to lose their way in the market, but it does not have to be completely trusted because those who make speculative signals are also humans who will not know how the market will continue in the future, so don't be surprised when someone who has believe in any signal, but still lose. And it is a proof that the signal can not always be true and still possible to be wrong.

[KingsDen]

Speculations are guesses. Informed or simply blind guesses, they are probably all the same. If a speculation on Bitcoin's price is based on technical analyses on charts, it may or may not happen. If a speculation is fundamental, it may or may not happen just the same. If a guess is just based on gut feeling, it may or may not happen also. At the end of the day, all of them are guesses. And as guesses, they are all equal. So I'd rather just hodl my Bitcoin and forget about those inaccurate predictions.

You may be correct to say that speculations are guesses, but you are absolutely not correct to say that both informed and basesless speculations are same. It therefore means that you are undermining the power of analysis, be it technical or fundamental.
If I wake from sleep tomorrow and decides to buy Bitcoin hoping that bitcoin will hit 50,000 dollars by February, 2023.
It is a wishful thinking which could also come to pass. But if compared to someone that has monitored the graph and the chart patterns, considered the information in the media and the financials new and makes an informed speculation, you will discover that my qishful thinking could be a total dumb.

Buying low and selling high is not a luck, it is a skill and someone that has the skill will do better than a layman.

I'm assuming that speculations are reasonable. I'm definitely not referring to speculations that are so ridiculous that they are absurd. Perhaps I did use the wrong words to state my point, but when I said blind guesses for example, I definitely do not mean that somebody would buy today because he feels like the price would rise to $100,000 tomorrow or sell everything today because the price would be zero when he wakes up. I do not mean that. I mean that's not even worth talking about.

I think I have managed to understand what you meant after reading to your comment the second time. What you are actually implying is that no matter how excellent a speculation appears to be, it is still a speculation because it might also not happe. Speculations are speculations as their names implie and not facts. For example the speculation of Bitcoin hitting $100000 which failed, mamy people's hope were dashed to mud due to the high expectations and acclaimed accurate speculation.

[kotajikikox]

I spent years to explain this to my fellow friends and relatives here. They just join random telegram groups that they happened to see around twitter. They say it gives signals to buy specific coins to make money together. I always told people its mainly speculation and people use naive investors to make money through literally any coin. But people still follow this so called fortune tellers and im really bored with explaining it.

I think the best advice is to let them experience, once they lose on those signals they will realize that there are no great masters in the market. I also joined the signal group on telegram but only when I lost my money did I know I was scammed, the previous advice I ignored because I thought I was always right.

Why need to let them lose when we can make a action to help them prevent this from happening? you are so cruel when you can give them advices but you denied that instead let them decide for themselves .

Signals are truly tricky and not trust worthy at all , but there are some paid signals(elite at least) that brings best result .

though i am not advising anyone from dealing with this kind if you love your money , search for your own and study.

I'm not cruel but I'm experienced, as a newbie, I've ignored everyone's advice and I think I'm doing the right thing. But when I had real experiences, I realized that I was wrong, completely wrong when I didn't listen to others. I lost money but I'm still glad I gained experience that no other advice could give me. You have to understand that sometimes losing money is not bad, losing money makes us more mature, so that we can learn lessons and we can make money from it, it is worth it.

I can feel the sentiment on that mate , But not everyone will cross our paths , maybe advising is still good but with complete teaching on how they must deal from advises and opinions.

there are always good way to treat others but I respect that opinion as being experienced? you learn the  hard way.

[ethereumhunter]

I think the best advice is to let them experience, once they lose on those signals they will realize that there are no great masters in the market. I also joined the signal group on telegram but only when I lost my money did I know I was scammed, the previous advice I ignored because I thought I was always right.

Speculation about signals for market predictions is only a small help when someone starts to lose their way in the market, but it does not have to be completely trusted because those who make speculative signals are also humans who will not know how the market will continue in the future, so don't be surprised when someone who has believe in any signal, but still lose. And it is a proof that the signal can not always be true and still possible to be wrong.

But if they just trust the signal without any analysis, it will only cost them more because there is no clue or further information about how it is moving. The signals given by the telegram group may have happened but it's all still speculation and we don't know where they got the numbers to enter the market. This is where the importance of seeking additional information and conducting a deeper analysis so that we will know the real state of the market and can act on the situation.

[Queentoshi]

Every signal is a speculation, but in trading the accuracy of people's speculation differs and is not the same. There are usually lots of speculations, but a few of those speculations turn out to be correct. The accuracy of your speculation will depend on the level of experience and knowledge you have about the market, that is why some people depend on market speculators that send them signals even to extent of paying them for it, because they recognize that they have more knowledge and experience about the market, so there is a higher chance of accuracy.

[GeorgeJohn]

To make a decision, of course we need a signal, if the signal in the market looks positive then the opportunity to buy more, so it is common when we see any signal then it can be the first step for speculation.

Do you know that some people give wrong signals, so before you will be depend on signal of a particular site that means it has been useful before, so sometimes instead of using signal that you don't trust, try to learn how to read or interpret the movement of candle sticks, because i noticed that signal fails and someone can't depend on some of the signal platforms or website.

[Sir Legend]

For those who are used to trading, they will understand any signal, some important issues this week are Elon Musk's twitter has been bought and made Doge skyrocket, when altcoins skyrocket it will have a positive impact, namely the price of bitcoin can return to $20k, because it's been almost a month the price was below $20k and after the news made the price rise again.

[Fara Chan]

For now I think waiting is a better thing, the war between Exchanges makes a market crash and many are worried that prices will continue to drop, we must understand that the role of exchanges such as binance and ftx has a very large impact will automatically make panic for users.

It seems true that we should wait for a flare-up of the issues that are developing, as conditions are currently volatile regarding Binance and FTX and the most one can do is buy, especially when the market is experiencing a sharp decline. Frankly, there is no right signal in the investment formula, we can only make predictions about a few possibilities that will happen.

[Davian144]

For now I think waiting is a better thing, the war between Exchanges makes a market crash and many are worried that prices will continue to drop, we must understand that the role of exchanges such as binance and ftx has a very large impact will automatically make panic for users.

The effect of the current market crash is not only because of the war between the two exchanges, but also because of other things such as the economy that is still less stable around the world which makes big investors reluctant to buy more Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies to stock at this time. But I'm sure that they will soon make a purchase and take advantage of the market opportunities in this downturn because improvement in market conditions is still very likely to occur this year.

It seems true that we should wait for a flare-up of the issues that are developing, as conditions are currently volatile regarding Binance and FTX and the most one can do is buy, especially when the market is experiencing a sharp decline. Frankly, there is no right signal in the investment formula, we can only make predictions about a few possibilities that will happen.

Try to name one of the several possibilities that will happen now? Because I only think that market improvement will still be very possible and that is apart from the issue of war between the two exchanges which is being discussed through several media. And I also see that some people are still panicking at this time when they see the market conditions are getting worse

[FanEagle]

For now I think waiting is a better thing, the war between Exchanges makes a market crash and many are worried that prices will continue to drop, we must understand that the role of exchanges such as binance and ftx has a very large impact will automatically make panic for users.

If you wait right now, then you are going to end up losing money. I have to say that it is not going to be that much of an ease and you should not be going into this thinking you could make a profit but you could at least have a long term holding.

Right now is the perfect time to get in, the price is as low as it could get and that means we should not be expecting the price to crash any further down, doesn't mean it will go up neither, but it will definitely go up eventually, if not today. That is why buying at this price, instead of waiting is the right call. Maybe there will be some more fall? I do not know but how much more could there really be, this seems like a good bottom.

[Kelvinid]

Every signal is a speculation, but in trading the accuracy of people's speculation differs and is not the same. There are usually lots of speculations, but a few of those speculations turn out to be correct. The accuracy of your speculation will depend on the level of experience and knowledge you have about the market, that is why some people depend on market speculators that send them signals even to extent of paying them for it, because they recognize that they have more knowledge and experience about the market, so there is a higher chance of accuracy.

We can speculate on the price trend and yes, speculations are sometimes right about it. But, some people are not contented enough with that as they wanted to be always right and even dictate that market price if possible.
If we can see a lot of signal groups roaming around trying to sell their signals to newbies pretending that their signals are correct and really working. Do we need to believe in this? No, because we know that signals are just speculations and they are talking about the price which is somewhat hard to project it.

[19Nov16]

Traders who understand the market situation certainly see the current situation is the best opportunity to buy, I'm sure the market will skyrocket and if we buy now when the price is still $ 17k then we will get a big profit, buy now or we will regret because we don't buy it when the price inexpensive.