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June 26, 2023, 04:38:19 PM
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It seems Ledger is not supporting crypto payments in certain countries. That's why I wasn't seeing those options. I had to try with US.
That might be a restriction of the crypto payment processor (crypto.com Pay and BitPay) and not Ledger.
The Crypto.com app, for instance, can't be used in a long list of countries and territories. BitPay also has several prohibited jurisdictions. See if your country is in the list of the sources I linked to.

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June 26, 2023, 07:41:43 PM
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I don't see any way to pay with crypto on Ledger official website. Just credit card, Paypal o Google Pay
They are using centralized third party payment processors Bitpay and Crypto.com, they are obviously restricting some countries and locations, and it's much better to switch to BTCPay Server..
I think this can easily be fixed with vpn or tor, but this could create some problems with delivery address location, and I wouldn't waste a single satoshi on ledger hardware wallets.

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I saw this new upcoming ledger special fed edition wallet somewhere... but no need to add it on your website/list Wink


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June 28, 2023, 12:27:32 AM
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Some improvements to the website:
- Improved battery category. Changed to "Power" and added "Removable Battery" section
- Added "Miniscript" section on "Bitcoin Features" category.
- Fixes and added some missing data

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June 28, 2023, 08:56:59 PM
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Some improvements to the website
Maybe you can think about adding one more thing called Hardware Wallet Compatibility and Security Rating.
I recently saw this introduced in cer.live website and I like the initial idea, but I don't like how they are doing it and this needs to be improved.
For hardware wallets this should mean how easy is to integrate and connect third party software wallets with hardware wallets.

If you examine cer.live website you will see they rated highest Trust wallet (for Bitcoin), Metamask (for Holdding and Security?!), ZenGo (for monile), etc.
Security rating for Electrum wallet is lowest  Roll Eyes
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June 28, 2023, 10:37:46 PM
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I don't like the idea of assigning a rating. All the wallets are different and there are users with different needs

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June 30, 2023, 03:54:46 PM
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I don't like the idea of assigning a rating. All the wallets are different and there are users with different needs
I agree with you on that one. These comparison sites should, in my opinion, be about hard facts without personal opinions or anything subjective. Adding a rating system does the exact opposite. You are showing the world what you think is better based on criteria that changes from person to person.

A security-conscious individual could have positive experiences with hot wallets, while someone who has no idea what they are doing could lose their coin from a hardware wallet.

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June 30, 2023, 07:37:55 PM
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BIP-85 is a standard to derive multiple seeds from a master seed. The derived seeds are unique and cannot be traced back to one another. I added to http://thebitcoinhole.com a new section with the wallets supporting this: Coldcard, Jade, Seedsigner and Passport Batch 2.

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July 10, 2023, 05:53:15 PM
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Lots of new features and improvements on our website where we compare more than 30 different hardware wallets. thebitcoinhole.com
- New wallet details screen with detailed info, official youtube video previews, dropdown to compare the wallet against others, and much more.
- Now you can compare wallets 1 vs 1.
- Added links to Reddit and Telegram communities (when available) for each wallet.
- More helpful info about each important feature of the different hardware wallets.
- Data fixes and improvements

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July 10, 2023, 07:42:46 PM
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Lots of new features and improvements on our website where we compare more than 30 different hardware wallets. thebitcoinhole.com
- New wallet details screen with detailed info, official youtube video previews, dropdown to compare the wallet against others, and much more.
- Now you can compare wallets 1 vs 1.
- Added links to Reddit and Telegram communities (when available) for each wallet.
- More helpful info about each important feature of the different hardware wallets.
- Data fixes and improvements
It seems that the Website is quite complete with some new features added. Especially by adding important features on each wallet device.
Sometimes some features are missed and not read. Marked with color is also very helpful

There is one feature that might be added, Maybe you can add some Hardware Wallet photos from different positions.
Usually on the official website, there are many photos and some provide 3D images.
It can help to see the design in detail and not just from the front with just one photo.

Add "Pictures" under the main photo to see more photos.
Or use different layouts according to your taste, sliders, pop-ups etc.

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Or you can see https://www.gsmarena.com/ website as a reference.

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July 10, 2023, 08:03:16 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, that is something I have in my mind, but probably not a priority right now.

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July 14, 2023, 01:34:39 AM
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Added to the website new info to see which hardware wallet is integrated with BlueWallet, Blockstream Green & Bitcoin Keeper.

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July 15, 2023, 08:28:21 PM
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Added to the website new info to see which hardware wallet is integrated with BlueWallet, Blockstream Green & Bitcoin Keeper.
How about adding new Keystone3 hardware wallet?
Waitlist is currently open and they will soon announce discounted price with more information.
If you have Coldcard Q1 and Bitkey on your list that are still not officially released, than I see no reason why Keystone3 should not be there.

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Added to the website new info to see which hardware wallet is integrated with BlueWallet, Blockstream Green & Bitcoin Keeper.
How about adding new Keystone3 hardware wallet?
Waitlist is currently open and they will soon announce discounted price with more information.
If you have Coldcard Q1 and Bitkey on your list that are still not officially released, than I see no reason why Keystone3 should not be there.

Added a couple of minutes ago. You can now see Keystone 3 on the website with the data I could find. I will update the info as soon as Keystone gives more data.

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Some updates:
- Added more info for Keystone 3 wallet
- Now you can see Keystone 3 details here: https://thebitcoinhole.com/wallets/keystone-3 and Keystones 3 Pro here: https://thebitcoinhole.com/wallets/keystone-3-pro
- I created an official Bitcoin Talk user for The Bitcoin Hole: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3567186
- I launched a Bug Bounty Program. More info here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460363.0

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- Added more info for Keystone 3 wallet
I see you added Keystone 3 and you wrote that battery for new model is not removable, so can you confirm this information?
It sucks they decided to go this route like most smartphones, since opening device will brake warranty and it could trigger their tampering detection protection and make it unusable.

- I created an official Bitcoin Talk user for The Bitcoin Hole: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3567186
What is the difference between The Bitcoin Hole and maxirosson members? Just Rebranding, or you are going to stop using this old account?

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July 24, 2023, 02:13:58 PM
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I see you added Keystone 3 and you wrote that battery for new model is not removable, so can you confirm this information?
It sucks they decided to go this route like most smartphones, since opening device will brake warranty and it could trigger their tampering detection protection and make it unusable.
Yes, that information is confirmed to me by the Keystone team.


What is the difference between The Bitcoin Hole and maxirosson members? Just Rebranding, or you are going to stop using this old account?
This is going to be my personal account. The Bitcoin Hole, the official account of my project.

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July 27, 2023, 01:46:35 PM
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You need to make one small update on TheBitcoinHole website for Coolwallet Pro SE hardware wallet, as they now switched to Open Source license, like I explained in one of my previous posts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288971.msg62609304#msg62609304

We still didn't saw any confirmation from other websites like Wallet Scrutiny or Bitcoin Binary if code is reproducible or not, but they released source code yesterday, so I would give them some time to catch up.

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July 27, 2023, 04:48:29 PM
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You need to make one small update on TheBitcoinHole website for Coolwallet Pro SE hardware wallet, as they now switched to Open Source license, like I explained in one of my previous posts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288971.msg62609304#msg62609304

Thanks for the info. According to its license, it seems it is source-available, not open source: https://github.com/CoolBitX-Technology/coolwallet-pro-se/blob/main/LICENSE

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Added sorting to our website. Now you can sort all the hardware wallets by Price, Year, Warranty, Weight and Screen Size.

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Added sorting to our website. Now you can sort all the hardware wallets by Price, Year, Warranty, Weight and Screen Size.
Nice update.
I see in last few weeks many new similar websites starting to appear for hardware wallet comparison and I still like yours the best, but athena-alpha.com is doing a good job also. Smiley
One recent correction for you, Keystone 3 Pro is now open for orders and discounted price is $90 in next several days, but I don't see Keystone 3 regular version available for purchase.



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