55 Hardware Wallets, compared feature by feature

[maxirosson]

I wrote an article comparing 32 hardware wallets, comparing them feature by feature.

https://blog.thebitcoinhole.com/best-hardware-wallets-31141ed1aa05

I also included a spreadsheet with the summary:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-8DLbhxtOcDEBPl8-IAGWaoyx1H02JSz9hADCgAGyCo/edit?usp=sharing


UPDATE
I deprecated the Google Spreadsheet and launched a new website comparing the most popular Hardware Wallets:

https://wallets.thebitcoinhole.com/

The site offers some advantages compared with the spreadsheet:
- Improved usability and look & feel
- Possibility to filter wallets so you can only see and compare the ones you are interested
- Added more contextual information about each compared feature
- Fixed some data errors.

I plan to continue adding more features and wallets to compare.

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[Lucius]

Did you by any chance write that review or are you just plagiarizing someone else's work? In case you are not the author, stop with cheap copy/paste because it only leads in one direction...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5415764.0

[maxirosson]

I am the author of the article. I didn't know someone already posted it here !!!

[dkbit98]

I am the author of the article. I didn't know someone already posted it here !!!

And you probably saw traffic coming from Bitcointalk and you registered after that.
It's not that I trust you or don't trust you, but maybe you could edit the original blog article (or spreadsheet) and add your bitcointalk forum profile link (or forum post link), that would prove that you are the original author Maxi Rosson.
And please try not to write many consecutive forum posts in short span of time, that is against forum rules

[maxirosson]

Hi. I added my Bitcointalk profile link to the bottom of the spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-8DLbhxtOcDEBPl8-IAGWaoyx1H02JSz9hADCgAGyCo/edit#gid=0.

Thanks for the suggestion regarding the consecutive posts.

I am the author of the article. I didn't know someone already posted it here !!!

And you probably saw traffic coming from Bitcointalk and you registered after that.
It's not that I trust you or don't trust you, but maybe you could edit the original blog article (or spreadsheet) and add your bitcointalk forum profile link (or forum post link), that would prove that you are the original author Maxi Rosson.
And please try not to write many consecutive forum posts in short span of time, that is against forum rules

[dkbit98]

Hi. I added my Bitcointalk profile link to the bottom of the spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-8DLbhxtOcDEBPl8-IAGWaoyx1H02JSz9hADCgAGyCo/edit#gid=0.

Confirmed ownership!
I am glad to see you joined Bitcointalk forum

Thanks for the suggestion regarding the consecutive posts.

Don't mention it.
You are free to use some of my posts and topics I wrote related with hardware wallets, especially this one that containds exact models of Secure Elements and Microcontrollers used in Hardware Wallets:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5304483.0

[maxirosson]

AFAIK connecting to USB Data is less secure than using a microSD, because you are forced to connect your device to a machine with an internet connection. That's why coldcard allows you to disable the USB data, so you are 100% air-gapped. Probably Bluetooth is something in the middle between USB Data & microSD and should be with orange color in the spreadsheet.

Thanks for creating the spreadsheet and writing the article. I know about ColdCard hardware, but i just found found out existence of "Seed XOR" feature. Also, could you explain why "From USB Data" under "Firmware Upgrade" has red color while "From Bluetooth/microSD" has green color? Personally i don't see much difference from security perspective.

[dkbit98]

AFAIK connecting to USB Data is less secure than using a microSD, because you are forced to connect your device to a machine with an internet connection. That's why coldcard allows you to disable the USB data, so you are 100% air-gapped. Probably Bluetooth is something in the middle between USB Data & microSD and should be with orange color in the spreadsheet.

USB connection with hardware wallets is not the same as regular USB connection, but it's true that this can't be considered as air-gapped device, unless USB is used only for charging.
However I don't see big advantage for microSD cards, and I much more prefer QR codes for air-gapped devices, like Passport and Keystone are using.
I don't like Bluetooth at all, and I am not a fan of NFC that is just antenna with shorter range, but for everything there are pros and cons.

[NeuroticFish]

USB connection with hardware wallets is not the same as regular USB connection, but it's true that this can't be considered as air-gapped device, unless USB is used only for charging.
However I don't see big advantage for microSD cards, and I much more prefer QR codes for air-gapped devices, like Passport and Keystone are using.

I agree USB can be a security risk since it's a data connection.
Even more, no matter it's done over USB or on a microSD, regular updates can also be seen as a security risk.

I don't like Bluetooth at all, and I am not a fan of NFC that is just antenna with shorter range, but for everything there are pros and cons.

This is why I am lately very fond of concepts like SeedSigner, although I don't know whether its lack of secure chip can be a problem or not, also don't know if it's overdoing its updates. But at least it uses images for transferring information.


I also have kinda dilemma about things like SatoChip. NFC doesn't have a big range and the credit cards have shown that NFC is not so badly insecure (I guess that some could counter me badly for this) and it's clearly doesn't need (nor support) updates. So on one side it could be seen as good. Just I can't go over the thing that I feel safe only if I see the transaction on the HW screen. All in all it's somewhere between "very nice" and "no, thank you".

[n0nce]

Just I can't go over the thing that I feel safe only if I see the transaction on the HW screen. All in all it's somewhere between "very nice" and "no, thank you".

A screen is definitely essential. Without visual confirmation on the hardware wallet itself, you cannot know whether your clipboard has been tampered with.
And clipboard attacks are definitely one of the easier ones to pull off, due to relatively simple access to it by applications. Think of all the websites that let you 'copy to clipboard' e.g. when sharing a video link. That's their code that puts something in your clipboard. The same way, it could replace an address on your clipboard with a different one and you'll send the funds to them, unknowingly.

[NeuroticFish]

Just I can't go over the thing that I feel safe only if I see the transaction on the HW screen. All in all it's somewhere between "very nice" and "no, thank you".

A screen is definitely essential. Without visual confirmation on the hardware wallet itself, you cannot know whether your clipboard has been tampered with.
And clipboard attacks are definitely one of the easier ones to pull off, due to relatively simple access to it by applications. Think of all the websites that let you 'copy to clipboard' e.g. when sharing a video link. That's their code that puts something in your clipboard. The same way, it could replace an address on your clipboard with a different one and you'll send the funds to them, unknowingly.

There's always a screen (or I thought so), just some HW tend to use the software wallet's device/screen as place where one will double check addresses (to avoid the indeed so easy clipboard related hacks) and even to handle (display or input) the seed. I find this approach quite bad and unnecessary, since if one can use that safely indeed, then he can already use a cold storage, and the vast majority will setup the HW unsafely.

[n0nce]

Just I can't go over the thing that I feel safe only if I see the transaction on the HW screen. All in all it's somewhere between "very nice" and "no, thank you".

A screen is definitely essential. Without visual confirmation on the hardware wallet itself, you cannot know whether your clipboard has been tampered with.
And clipboard attacks are definitely one of the easier ones to pull off, due to relatively simple access to it by applications. Think of all the websites that let you 'copy to clipboard' e.g. when sharing a video link. That's their code that puts something in your clipboard. The same way, it could replace an address on your clipboard with a different one and you'll send the funds to them, unknowingly.

There's always a screen (or I thought so), just some HW tend to use the software wallet's device/screen as place where one will double check addresses ^{[emphasis mine]} (to avoid the indeed so easy clipboard related hacks)

True, this would prevent the very trivial clipboard attack, but it doesn't prevent the address to be replaced before being sent to the wallet and signed.
I also believe it's possible to do the 'trivial clipboard attack' and at the same time overlay the original address in the software wallet, such that the user can't notice.

and even to handle (display or input) the seed. I find this approach quite bad and unnecessary, since if one can use that safely indeed, then he can already use a cold storage, and the vast majority will setup the HW unsafely.

Displaying the seed on screen is definitely a big no. I know of a screenless hardware wallet that circumvents this by allowing you to insert a microSD, onto which it writes the seed phrase. That way it is never sent to the host computer over USB.

[maxirosson]

Added:
- Coldcard Q1
- Ledger Stax

Now comparing 28 hardware wallets, feature by feature:

- Medium Post: https://blog.thebitcoinhole.com/best-hardware-wallets-31141ed1aa05
- Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-8DLbhxtOcDEBPl8-IAGWaoyx1H02JSz9hADCgAGyCo/edit?usp=sharing

[dkbit98]

Now comparing 28 hardware wallets, feature by feature

Thank you for keeping this spreadsheet updated maxirosson.
I have one suggestion, can you please add dimension/size for all devices (cm/inch), since you already added weight and most of the other things?
I am especially interested to find out exact dimensions for new ColdCard Q1 device.

[maxirosson]

Yes, good idea. I could add that info. Not sure if it is available for all the wallets, but I could try

[maxirosson]

Added dimension for all the wallets and also added Tapsigner.

https://blog.thebitcoinhole.com/best-hardware-wallets-31141ed1aa05
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-8DLbhxtOcDEBPl8-IAGWaoyx1H02JSz9hADCgAGyCo/edit?usp=sharing

[Lillominato89]

Added dimension for all the wallets and also added Tapsigner.

https://blog.thebitcoinhole.com/best-hardware-wallets-31141ed1aa05
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-8DLbhxtOcDEBPl8-IAGWaoyx1H02JSz9hADCgAGyCo/edit?usp=sharing

excellent article and well written, I really liked the idea, I saw that you also included closed source hardware wallets such as safepal but you did not mention oneKey among the open source hardware wallets, I wanted to ask you why you omitted some hw?

[maxirosson]

I am trying to add as many wallets as possible. I didn't know oneKey, I will add it. Thanks for mentioning it. I am open to new suggestions.

[dkbit98]

Added dimension for all the wallets and also added Tapsigner.

Nice one, I see you listened to my earlier suggestion
Dimensions are currently missing for Arculus wallet, but I guess it's similar like for all other card style wallets.... not saying that I support or like Arculus in any way.

And how the heck did you find dimensions for for upcoming Coldcard Q1  hardwa wallet?
With 120 x 75 x 22 mm this is now officially largest hardware wallet device in the world... it's yuge  

I am trying to add as many wallets as possible. I didn't know oneKey, I will add it. Thanks for mentioning it. I am open to new suggestions.

If you want to check big list of all hardware wallets, you can check one we are maintaining in our local board:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285324.0

[maxirosson]

Added dimensions for Arculus.

Coldcard Q1 dimensions source: https://coldcard.com/docs/specs

Thanks for that link with all those wallets. I am trying to focus on the more popular and best wallets, because there are lots of them.

[dkbit98]

Thanks for that link with all those wallets. I am trying to focus on the more popular and best wallets, because there are lots of them.

And I don't think you should add all of them but here are few suggestions for you to consider.
OneKey is most popular hardware wallet manufacturer from China (much more popular than Safepal or Keystone), I received that information from several trusted sources.
They currently have three models you can add (Mini, Classic, Touch), they are open source and have reasonable prices.
Cypherock X1 is also interesting hardware wallet from India that works different from all other hardware wallets, and you can also add one more card style wallet called Tangem.

[maxirosson]

Thanks for the suggestions.

I added more updates to the article/spreadsheet:
- Added OneKey Mini, OneKey Classic and OneKey Touch wallets
- Added firmware release notes links for each wallet (when available)

I am going to take a look to Cypherock X1 and Tangem

[SFR10]

With 120 x 75 x 22 mm this is now officially largest hardware wallet device in the world... it's yuge  

@maxirosson
I was about to respond and say it's not the largest hardware wallet ^{[based on your list]}, but it appears that you made a mistake for the Keevo Model 1 ^{[instead of using the dimensions for the device in question (95 mm x 58 mm x 11 mm), you included the dimensions for its "Exclusive Desktop Display Case (167 mm x 117 mm x 48 mm)"]}.

I am trying to add as many wallets as possible.

I am trying to focus on the more popular and best wallets, because there are lots of them.

The following two might not be that popular, but perhaps they deserve a spot as well:

• 1inch
• Hito

BTW, I think it's time to update the number of HW ^{[32 and counting]} in the subject field of this thread.

[maxirosson]

Thanks for your suggestions SFR10. I fixed the Keevo dimensions and updated the topic title.

I will add those two wallets you mentioned to my list of wallets to evaluate.

[dkbit98]

I will add those two wallets you mentioned to my list of wallets to evaluate.

Did you also add Waterproof section for hardware wallets in spreadsheet or was it always there?
If I understand correctly CoolWallet, Ellipal, Keystone, Ngrave and few other wallets are unde this category but I don't think they are all waterproof.
I need this information for my research, so how can I read this information correctly?

[maxirosson]

The waterproof section is not new, I just moved the row. I am trying to confirm if I have some mistakes.
Waiting confirmation from Keevo and Ngrave teams

Ellipal & Coolwallet are waterproof, they mention that here:
https://www.ellipal.com/blogs/news/the-dangers-of-physical-attacks-on-your-hardware-wallet
https://www.coolwallet.io/introducing-the-coolwallet-pro-for-enhanced-staking-defi-dapp-and-nft-support/

Arculus support answered this to me in the past:
"Yes, the Arculus Key™ Card is waterproof, but we don't advise submerging it in water if you can avoid it."

[Lillominato89]

I am trying to add as many wallets as possible. I didn't know oneKey, I will add it. Thanks for mentioning it. I am open to new suggestions.

you're welcome, it was a pleasure to give you an extra tip on what to include in your web article, I personally met OneKey thanks to the bitcointalk forum, I had never heard of it and when I read it for the first time I immediately liked it , despite this, however, I am not a holder of any OneKey currently

[maxirosson]

NGrave support team: "It's not completely waterproof but the ZERO is IP55-certified and is resistant to water and dust."

The waterproof section is not new, I just moved the row. I am trying to confirm if I have some mistakes.
Waiting confirmation from Keevo and Ngrave teams

Ellipal & Coolwallet are waterproof, they mention that here:
https://www.ellipal.com/blogs/news/the-dangers-of-physical-attacks-on-your-hardware-wallet
https://www.coolwallet.io/introducing-the-coolwallet-pro-for-enhanced-staking-defi-dapp-and-nft-support/

Arculus support answered this to me in the past:
"Yes, the Arculus Key™ Card is waterproof, but we don't advise submerging it in water if you can avoid it."

[maxirosson]

Keevo Model 1 is not waterproof. Fixed on spreadsheet/article

The waterproof section is not new, I just moved the row. I am trying to confirm if I have some mistakes.
Waiting confirmation from Keevo and Ngrave teams

Ellipal & Coolwallet are waterproof, they mention that here:
https://www.ellipal.com/blogs/news/the-dangers-of-physical-attacks-on-your-hardware-wallet
https://www.coolwallet.io/introducing-the-coolwallet-pro-for-enhanced-staking-defi-dapp-and-nft-support/

Arculus support answered this to me in the past:
"Yes, the Arculus Key™ Card is waterproof, but we don't advise submerging it in water if you can avoid it."

[hZti]

I Never knew that we had waterproof hardware wallets. Very interesting to see if it is generally good or bad if the wallet is very durable. This is because in general the wallet should still be easy to destroy in case of a 5$ wrenching attack  still I would love to see some tests.

[SFR10]

@maxirosson
Is there a confirmation from Coinkite that Tapsigner isn't waterproof ^{[I had no luck in finding it]}? I was under the impression that almost all of these smart cards are either waterproof or at least water-resistant to a certain degree...

This is because in general the wallet should still be easy to destroy in case of a 5$ wrenching attack  

Physical destruction of HWs in "most cases" isn't going to give you enough protection against such attacks ^{[unfortunately]}... A decoy wallet would probably provide better protection, but this feature doesn't exist in some of the HWs.

[hZti]

This is because in general the wallet should still be easy to destroy in case of a 5$ wrenching attack  

Physical destruction of HWs in "most cases" isn't going to give you enough protection against such attacks ^{[unfortunately]}... A decoy wallet would probably provide better protection, but this feature doesn't exist in some of the HWs.

That’s true for most wallets but it’s kind of a design flaw from the manufacturer, since it is an important security feature to be able to destroy the device easily. Not only because you need it in case of an attack but also if you want to throw away your device after it is old. In my coldcard the secure storage devices are clearly labelled and easy to destroy for example.

[SFR10]

That’s true for most wallets but it’s kind of a design flaw from the manufacturer, since it is an important security feature to be able to destroy the device easily.

You have a point, but when it comes to a 5$ wrenching attack, the attacker could still hit you until you give them the seed phrases ^{[in other words, destroying our devices would only cause a delay against this type of attack]}.

Not only because you need it in case of an attack but also if you want to throw away your device after it is old.

Personally, I'd still keep it in someplace safe ^{[after wiping/resetting it]} even if it becomes obsolete, but I've seen a microwave oven and a hammer would do a wonderful job of destroying these kinds of devices.

In my coldcard the secure storage devices are clearly labelled and easy to destroy for example.

Are you implying that there's an easy way to trigger its self-destruct mechanism and that actually bricks the device instantly, as opposed to wiping it ^{[I've noticed most wallets tend to only wipe it]} or you were referring to something else?
^{- Based on the two coldcard models that are in the above table, they don't seem to have the former.}

[maxirosson]

Still waiting a response from Coinkite team. I will post here when I have it.

@maxirosson
Is there a confirmation from Coinkite that Tapsigner isn't waterproof ^{[I had no luck in finding it]}? I was under the impression that almost all of these smart cards are either waterproof or at least water-resistant to a certain degree...

[maxirosson]

Added for almost every wallet:
* materials
* custom node, tesnet & coin control support

[dkbit98]

Added for almost every wallet:
* materials
* custom node, tesnet & coin control support

Great work!
I didn't know new ledger Sux is made from aluminum and plastic, it looks nice but I don't think that is durable at all, I am mostly concerned about their screen.
Keystone sounds good with fiberglass, but hammer can destroy it very easy, I will post proof about it in my HW durability topic.
 
One thing you can update, I am sure Jade wallet is made from plastic (don't know what exact type), because I have similar device from same factory that produced Jade wallets.

[taufik123]

Added for almost every wallet:
* materials
* custom node, tesnet & coin control support

Great work!
I didn't know new ledger Sux Stax is made from aluminum and plastic, it looks nice but I don't think that is durable at all, I am mostly concerned about their screen.
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Maybe you mean Ledger Stax and the materials used are indeed Aluminum and plastic with embedded magnets for stackability so you can stack one or two wallets.
Then about the screen, Ledger Stax uses an E-Ink® type screen.

E-Ink® type screen is a screen used to replicate the experience of reading and writing on paper.
This display is usually gray but it can be colored as well (but there is no color display in Ledger Stax) and Ledger Stax is intended for special NFT hardware wallets.
https://www.trustedreviews.com/explainer/what-is-an-e-ink-display-4291253

For the durability test on the Ledger Stax screen which uses E-Ink® Type Screen, you can see the Video Durability Test E-ink Displays made by JerryRigEverything.
In the video, test scratches only up to number 3 assuming the screen only uses plastic, not glass.

Full Video Durability Test:
https://youtu.be/TXeZ5fNazk8?t=248



In addition, is there anyone here who also uses the Safepal S1 Hardware Wallet? It seems that only I am still using it and some problems are starting to arise from the durability of the battery used. and for information, the material used by Safepal is Full Plastic and the front uses clear plastic as an anti-scratch for the front body as well as for the screen.

[dkbit98]

E-Ink® type screen is a screen used to replicate the experience of reading and writing on paper.
This display is usually gray but it can be colored as well (but there is no color display in Ledger Stax) and Ledger Stax is intended for special NFT hardware wallets.

I know ledger Stax is using E-Ink screen and I like that idea, but I don't know how durable that exact screen is, and like you said it doesn't make much sense to use this for their ''NFT'' purpose.
JerryRigEverything is great and I enjoy watching his testing torture videos, but Kindle Scribe is not the same as ledger device/screen.
I guess someone should send Jerry one of this ledger devices so we can have clear picture about durability

[taufik123]

I know ledger Stax is using E-Ink screen and I like that idea, but I don't know how durable that exact screen is, and like you said it doesn't make much sense to use this for their ''NFT'' purpose.

It may not be much different from the durability of E-Ink Screens in general. There is no clear information about how well the screen durability is and have not found any durability test for this Ledger Stax Wallet. The curved screen looks riskier when dropped or crushed if using an Amoled Screen like a Smartphone, but the choice of using an E-Ink screen may be because the screen is more flexible and easier to bend in parts.

JerryRigEverything is great and I enjoy watching his testing torture videos, but Kindle Scribe is not the same as ledger device/screen.
I guess someone should send Jerry one of this ledger devices so we can have clear picture about durability

The purpose of NFT display media is proud of the Ledge Stax, but the color display is only 16 scales of Gray, not color. Quite disappointed that it doesn't use a color screen.

It seems that developers should send it to JerryRig for testing, $300 is quite expensive for this type of Ledger wallet, but yes innovation is still paid handsomely.

[maxirosson]

BREAKING NEWS
I deprecated the Google Spreadsheet and launched a new website comparing 32 Hardware Wallets:

https://wallets.thebitcoinhole.com/

The site offers some advantages compared with the spreadsheet:
- Improved usability and look & feel
- Possibility to filter wallets so you can only see and compare the ones you are interested
- Added more contextual information about each compared feature
- Fixed some data errors.
- It is open source, so everyone can suggest changes or fix errors: https://github.com/thebitcoinhole/hardware-wallets


I plan to continue adding more features and wallets to compare.

 

[dkbit98]

BREAKING NEWS
I deprecated the Google Spreadsheet and launched a new website comparing 32 Hardware Wallets

Bookmarked!
Very good update and I like left and right navigation arrows you added on this website.
I know we all have zoom features on out browsers, but maybe you could add custom zoom out button mode so we can see all wallets in one page.
There is Filter tab greyed out so maybe you could add more options for that later, based on wallet features and characteristics.

[maxirosson]

Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I plan to add some preloaded filters like BTC-only wallets.
Not sure if all the wallets can be visible at the same time. But I could try changing the column width so we can see more wallets at the same time.

Bookmarked!
Very good update and I like left and right navigation arrows you added on this website.
I know we all have zoom features on out browsers, but maybe you could add custom zoom out button mode so we can see all wallets in one page.
There is Filter tab greyed out so maybe you could add more options for that later, based on wallet features and characteristics.

[taufik123]

Great update.
From Google Sheets and finally migrated to a website that is quite responsive for desktop display.

But for the Mobile display, it seems that it is not fully compatible and needs a little improvement so that the mobile-specific display is more precise and suitable for mobile users.



And maybe some suggestions like a Search Button are needed when like me, a Safepal or Ledger user wants to see my wallet hardware information without having to navigate too far to the right.

Overall, this is a great update and makes it easier to find all types of Hardware wallets.

[maxirosson]

Thanks for the feedback. I am creating issues on Github issues for all the pending tasks.

I am a bit limited on mobile, it's not easy to display more than two wallets at the same time. Do you have any particular issue on your mobile device?

Great update.
From Google Sheets and finally migrated to a website that is quite responsive for desktop display.

But for the Mobile display, it seems that it is not fully compatible and needs a little improvement so that the mobile-specific display is more precise and suitable for mobile users.



And maybe some suggestions like a Search Button are needed when like me, a Safepal or Ledger user wants to see my wallet hardware information without having to navigate too far to the right.

Overall, this is a great update and makes it easier to find all types of Hardware wallets.

[Tibu]

BREAKING NEWS
I deprecated the Google Spreadsheet and launched a new website comparing 32 Hardware Wallets:

https://wallets.thebitcoinhole.com/

The site offers some advantages compared with the spreadsheet:
- Improved usability and look & feel
- Possibility to filter wallets so you can only see and compare the ones you are interested
- Added more contextual information about each compared feature
- Fixed some data errors.
- It is open source, so everyone can suggest changes or fix errors: https://github.com/thebitcoinhole/hardware-wallets


I plan to continue adding more features and wallets to compare.

 

Wow... Website is clean and well designed. Good job.
But its still missing Satochip hardware wallet (https://satochip.io), wen sir ?
Do you have a github page or something like that to allow contributions ?

And I have the same request for the seed storage solution part : https://thebitcoinhole.com/seed-backup/

Have a great day.

[taufik123]

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I am a bit limited on mobile, it's not easy to display more than two wallets at the same time. Do you have any particular issue on your mobile device?
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The only problem is that the display scale on smartphones is not precise and of course, CSS is still not supported for mobile display.
If you use WordPress maybe it will be easier to provide some slider templates that can be optimized according to the template for Desktop and mobile.

I also do not understand CSS, only know some basic knowledge, and have not managed a website for a long time.
But the Desktop display is good enough and responsive.

[SFR10]

BREAKING NEWS
I deprecated the Google Spreadsheet and launched a new website comparing 32 Hardware Wallets:

Great move

Few suggestions:
- A modular design to allow us to remove unwanted rows ^{[browser-side]}.
- Highlight the row and the column that our mouse pointer is currently hovering at ^{[useful when multiple hardware wallets are selected]}.
- A dark mode.

But for the Mobile display, it seems that it is not fully compatible and needs a little improvement so that the mobile-specific display is more precise and suitable for mobile users.

Until a better version comes, you might want to enable the "desktop site" mode on your mobile browser ^{[it improves it a little bit]}.

[maxirosson]

Thanks for the feedback. I loaded your suggestion on the issue tracker

[FatFork]

Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I plan to add some preloaded filters like BTC-only wallets.
Not sure if all the wallets can be visible at the same time. But I could try changing the column width so we can see more wallets at the same time.

Great work! That's quite an impressive project you've undertaken and it's great to see that you're continuing to improve and expand on your comparison tool, especially with the additional features you plan to include.

It's a good point that fitting all the wallets on one page might not be possible, especially with the total number of wallets. However, I do agree that adding more filter options would be a great way to make the website even more user-friendly.

Here are a few ideas:
Price range - this would allow users to filter wallets based on their budget.
Security features - this would allow users to filter wallets based on specific security features, such as secure element, biometric recognition, etc.
Display size - some people prefer larger screens for readability, while others prefer smaller screens for portability.
Another potential filter option could be based on the connectivity of the wallet, such as Bluetooth or USB.
etc

[maxirosson]

Here are a few ideas:
Price range - this would allow users to filter wallets based on their budget.
Security features - this would allow users to filter wallets based on specific security features, such as secure element, biometric recognition, etc.
Display size - some people prefer larger screens for readability, while others prefer smaller screens for portability.
Another potential filter option could be based on the connectivity of the wallet, such as Bluetooth or USB.
etc

Thanks for the feedback !!!

[maxirosson]

But its still missing Satochip hardware wallet (https://satochip.io), wen sir ?
Do you have a github page or something like that to allow contributions ?

Working right now to add Satochips.
The github repo: https://github.com/thebitcoinhole/hardware-wallets

[Synchronice]

Great, just great! To be honest, I even bookmarked it.
There are things that I think will improve the overall experience, for example, when I want to scroll right, I have to scroll down till the very end of list and then there is a scroll bar, which isn't comfortable. I think it will be better If there is an arrow or scroll bar at any moment when I read see the list.
Also, I think it's a good idea if it will be sorted by popularity, alphabet, release date, price.

[maxirosson]

There are things that I think will improve the overall experience, for example, when I want to scroll right, I have to scroll down till the very end of list and then there is a scroll bar, which isn't comfortable. I think it will be better If there is an arrow or scroll bar at any moment when I read see the list.

Thanks for your feedback.

There are arrows to horizontally scroll. You can see at the right and left of the wallets images (only on desktop)

[maxirosson]

Added Tangem wallet. Now comparing 33 Hardware Wallets feature by feature.

https://wallets.thebitcoinhole.com/

Still waiting for Satochip support team to answer me some questions, so I can add their wallet.

[maxirosson]

Added Satochip to the website. Now comparing 34 Hardware Wallets.

https://wallets.thebitcoinhole.com/

Also added some discounts you can get for some wallets. Working to add more deals.

[dkbit98]

Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I plan to add some preloaded filters like BTC-only wallets.
Not sure if all the wallets can be visible at the same time. But I could try changing the column width so we can see more wallets at the same time.

I forgot to say that I love that you added SATS value below USD prices.
What tool are you using to show live SAT prices since they are changing all the time?
I think that HW prices are also changing sometimes, so it would be cool to have someone tracking that, instead of doing everything manually.

PS
Adding responsive design update would probably fix most of the issues with various devices, and consider adding alternative dark theme switch.

[maxirosson]

What tool are you using to show live SAT prices since they are changing all the time?

I just use an API to get the BTC price when loading the site, and then calculate the wallet price in SATs.

I think that HW prices are also changing sometimes, so it would be cool to have someone tracking that, instead of doing everything manually.

Yes, but it's a lot of work to parse all the manufacturer's sites to get the prices.

Adding responsive design update would probably fix most of the issues with various devices, and consider adding alternative dark theme switch.

The site is responsive and looking fine on my pixel 6. Is difficult to compare wallets on a small screen, I would always recommend using your desktop for that. But maybe you are having issues that I am not seeing. Some screenshots could help me to understand those issues.

[maxirosson]

Added discount coupon codes for Arculus, Jade, Keystone, OneKey, Passport Batch 2, Satochip, and SecuX wallets.

[maxirosson]

Added SeedSigner

[dkbit98]

Added SeedSigner

Are you sure that Seedsigner can be purchased and assembled for $50 right now?
RaspberryPi are not always easy to find and they often have higher price, plus you have to buy additional parts, print or buy the case and assemble everything yourself.
This is not a problem for me, but most newbies wouldn't know what to do even with detailed instructions.
Few shops are selling prebuilt devices but they are priced around €100 ^{(on gobrrr.me)}.

Dimensions can also be very much different, because there are many cases (Open Pill, Orange Pill, Rugged Pill, etc).

[maxirosson]

Maybe I should avoid putting a price for DIY wallets

[dkbit98]

Maybe I should avoid putting a price for DIY wallets

Or you can just say that prices starting from $50 and going up, clever marketing trick but you need to put some work collecting and assembling everything if you want to pay less 

Since you already added many hardware wallets with lot of details, it would be only fair to expect honest reviews for them soon (if manufacturers send you free devices for testing).

[maxirosson]

Yes, I have plans to do some reviews. I received a Tapsigner, OneKey Touch and Jade from manufacturers. I started with the Onkey review on the blog. I will review the others as soon as I have a bit of time.
I can ask for more wallets from manufacturers but the problem is the taxes in my country. I have to pay them. If I start to have a bit of income, I could afford that.

[NotATether]

These are the only hardware wallets people should be messing with:

- (Blockstream) Jade
- Passport
- Keystone devices
- The Coldcard Q1, once it's officially released
- EDIT: And the Airgap Wallet software, if used properly

All are open-source, 100% air-gapped and come with a battery and QR scanner, work with all major wallets, have a "brick switch", have a secure chip (with the exception of the Jade, but it's the only one with "ANTI-KLEPTO / ANTI-EXFIL PROTOCOL"), and most importantly don't come with an outside risk of getting hacked (Trezor wallets) and don't have silly privacy or security scandals surrounding their products (*cough* Ledger).

[maxirosson]

Added Specter DIY to the website. Now comparing 36 different Hardware Wallets, feature by feature.

https://wallets.thebitcoinhole.com/

[dkbit98]

All are open-source

Sorry but ColdCard does NOT have open source devices anymore, but they have inflated NKV ego instead, and they use Commons Clause license  

Added Specter DIY to the website. Now comparing 36 different Hardware Wallets, feature by feature.

Since you started adding DIY devices, you can consider adding Krux wallet.
This project is smaller than SeedSigner or Specter, but it's very affordable and base device M5StickV looks very similar like Jade wallet and Maix Amigo is amazing.
You can find more information about Krux in my topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5350905.0

PS
Nice work collecting all recent anti-ledger discounts  

[RickDeckard]

(...)
All are open-source, 100% air-gapped and come with a battery and QR scanner, work with all major wallets, have a "brick switch", have a secure chip (with the exception of the Jade, but it's the only one with "ANTI-KLEPTO / ANTI-EXFIL PROTOCOL"), and most importantly don't come with an outside risk of getting hacked (Trezor wallets) and don't have silly privacy or security scandals surrounding their products (*cough* Ledger).

Passport devices also support supply chain validation procedures[1] which allow the user to know if his device is genuine or if it has been tampered with. This kind of validations exist to avoid situations like this one[2]:

"The unit was bought from a trusted seller through a popular classifieds website, and the holographic stickers on the box and the wallet itself were all present and undamaged."
"Instead of the original STM32F427, the unit had an STM32F429 with fully deactivated microcontroller flash-memory read-out protection mechanisms (RDP 0 instead of RDP 2 in genuine Trezors).".
"The fake cryptowallet would operate as normal, but the attackers had full control over it from the very beginning. According to the transaction history, they were in no hurry, waiting a whole month after the wallet was credited for the first time before they grabbed the money. The owner had no protection whatsoever: the game was lost from the very moment the money first arrived in the Trojan wallet."

[1]https://docs.foundationdevices.com/passport/setup
[2]https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/fake-trezor-wallets-designed-to-steal-bitcoin-spotted-in-the-wild/

[NotATether]

All are open-source

Sorry but ColdCard does NOT have open source devices anymore, but they have inflated NKV ego instead, and they use Commons Clause license  

That's strange, I was pretty sure TheBitcoinHole listed those wallets as open-source in the grid (EDIT: As of May 18 I can confirm that the wallets are listed like that).

Time to reshuffle my shopping list in that case...

EDIT 2: I see this is the license of their firmware?

(c) Copyright 2020 by Coinkite Inc.

Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining
a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the
"Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including
without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish,
distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to
permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject
to the following conditions:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be
included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.

THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND,
EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF
MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT.
IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR
ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF
CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION
WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE.


"Commons Clause" License Condition v1.0

The Software is provided to you by the Licensor under the License,
as defined below, subject to the following condition.

Without limiting other conditions in the License, the grant of
rights under the License will not include, and the License does not
grant to you, the right to Sell the Software.

For purposes of the foregoing, "Sell" means practicing any or all
of the rights granted to you under the License to provide to third
parties, for a fee or other consideration (including without
limitation fees for hosting or consulting/ support services related
to the Software), a product or service whose value derives, entirely
or substantially, from the functionality of the Software. Any license
notice or attribution required by the License must also include
this Commons Clause License Condition notice.

Software: All Coldcard associated files.
License: MIT
Licensor: Coinkite Inc.

It looks like MIT with an anti-sell clause.

[maxirosson]

Regarding the coldcard. So, you say that you can see the source code of the firmware but you can't sell it. That would be a place in the middle between closed source that you can't see and open source that you can see and sell. It should be in yellow color in my website. I am going to modify it and clarify

[NotATether]

Regarding the coldcard. So, you say that you can see the source code of the firmware but you can't sell it. That would be a place in the middle between closed source that you can't see and open source that you can see and sell. It should be in yellow color in my website. I am going to modify it and clarify

OK.

But I don't think it is a huge problem, right? I mean, it's not like Ledger where everything is closed-source, it's certainly better than that. But also, it is not like other open-source hardware wallets where they give you unrestricted freedom to do whatever you want with the firmware. But if you're an end-user and you just want to install firmware or if you're a dev who wants to contribute back, then there is no legal issue.

As long as the codebase of the firmware is regularly updated and you can see all the parts of it, and all of the bugs & vulnerabilities that could be lurking about inside there, then there is still some validation that the cold wallet's code is acting honestly.

EDIT
That being said, they could've written their license differently to make it less redundant:

Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining
a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the
"Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including
without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish,
distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to
permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject
to the following conditions:

Without limiting other conditions in the License, the grant of
rights under the License will not include, and the License does not
grant to you, the right to Sell the Software.

It certainly makes me think that a lawyer did not write this.

[maxirosson]

Yes, I agree

[maxirosson]

I explored all the hardware wallets checkouts and added the different supported payment methods to https://wallets.thebitcoinhole.com

Wallets that can be bought with Lightning:
- Blockstream Jade
- Passport Batch 2
- BitBox02
- Keystone
- Trezor
- OneKey

[dkbit98]

But I don't think it is a huge problem, right? I mean, it's not like Ledger where everything is closed-source, it's certainly better than that.

There is no such thing as semi-open source or little-open source wallet.
Either something is open source or not, and ColdCard is NOT open source device, we already had this discussion at it was proven several times.
NVK (ColdCard owenr) was missleading people for a while with Open Source label on their website, but they had to change it later to Verifiable Source Code.

Here is before and After photos:



It's even worse that same ColdCard used Trezor open source code before that and they didn't credit that, until someone publicly posted about that  
It's not that ColdCard is bad wallet, but with egoistic hypocrites like NVK I simply refuse to give them any slack.

Common Clause license:

Is this “Open Source”?
- No.

https://commonsclause.com/

I explored all the hardware wallets checkouts and added the different supported payment methods to https://wallets.thebitcoinhole.com

Are all hardware wallets also accepting payments in Bitcoin mainnet?
I see, several wallets (sledger included) don't accept Bitcoin payments and they expect people to purchase them for storing BTC  

[maxirosson]

Added Bitkey to the website. Still lots of questions about the wallet, so the info is not complete. Waiting to get more info about the wallet to include on the site.

[dkbit98]

Added Bitkey to the website. Still lots of questions about the wallet, so the info is not complete. Waiting to get more info about the wallet to include on the site.

Wait a minute... did they changed the name again?!
First I thought this was some new wallet I never heard before but than I saw familiar shape of ex-Square aka ex-Block wallet.
I honestly wouldn't call this a real hardware wallet at all, based on information I know about it, but let's wait and see what happens when they release it officially.

PS
I am never going to apply for this  beta 

[Pmalek]

I see, several wallets (sledger included) don't accept Bitcoin payments and they expect people to purchase them for storing BTC  

Ledger doesn't accept Bitcoin directly, but you can pay with bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies using the crypto payment processor BitPay. Anyone interested in doing that should know that BitPay requires KYC to use their services, so there are better alternatives. Check out Do Hardware wallet Manufacturers Ship to PO Boxes or Not for more info.

[maxirosson]

Ledger doesn't accept Bitcoin directly, but you can pay with bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies using the crypto payment processor BitPay.

I don't see any way to pay with crypto on Ledger official website. Just credit card, Paypal o Google Pay

[Pmalek]

I don't see any way to pay with crypto on Ledger official website. Just credit card, Paypal o Google Pay

It's there. Go to the shop, add one of their hardware wallets to your cart, and start the purchase process. You can enter fake data just to proceed through the customer info and shipping forms. Once you get to the payments page you will see this:



It seems that they have actually added crypto.com pay in addition to BitPay, which was there before.

[RickDeckard]

It seems that they have actually added crypto.com pay in addition to BitPay, which was there before.

Indeed, they seem to have added that payment option around 08/2020[1]. Do note that both of them aren't very private considering that one is a centralized exchange and another is BitPay[2].
[1]https://www.ledger.com/ledger-integrates-cryptocom-pay
[2]https://debitpay.directory/anti-bitcoin/

[maxirosson]

It seems Ledger is not supporting crypto payments in certain countries. That's why I wasn't seeing those options. I had to try with US.

[Pmalek]

It seems Ledger is not supporting crypto payments in certain countries. That's why I wasn't seeing those options. I had to try with US.

That might be a restriction of the crypto payment processor (crypto.com Pay and BitPay) and not Ledger.
The Crypto.com app, for instance, can't be used in a long list of countries and territories. BitPay also has several prohibited jurisdictions. See if your country is in the list of the sources I linked to.

[dkbit98]

I don't see any way to pay with crypto on Ledger official website. Just credit card, Paypal o Google Pay

They are using centralized third party payment processors Bitpay and Crypto.com, they are obviously restricting some countries and locations, and it's much better to switch to BTCPay Server..
I think this can easily be fixed with vpn or tor, but this could create some problems with delivery address location, and I wouldn't waste a single satoshi on ledger hardware wallets.

PS
I saw this new upcoming ledger special fed edition wallet somewhere... but no need to add it on your website/list

[maxirosson]

Some improvements to the website:
- Improved battery category. Changed to "Power" and added "Removable Battery" section
- Added "Miniscript" section on "Bitcoin Features" category.
- Fixes and added some missing data

[dkbit98]

Some improvements to the website

Maybe you can think about adding one more thing called Hardware Wallet Compatibility and Security Rating.
I recently saw this introduced in cer.live website and I like the initial idea, but I don't like how they are doing it and this needs to be improved.
For hardware wallets this should mean how easy is to integrate and connect third party software wallets with hardware wallets.

If you examine cer.live website you will see they rated highest Trust wallet (for Bitcoin), Metamask (for Holdding and Security?!), ZenGo (for monile), etc.
Security rating for Electrum wallet is lowest 
https://cer.live/wallets

[maxirosson]

I don't like the idea of assigning a rating. All the wallets are different and there are users with different needs

[Pmalek]

I don't like the idea of assigning a rating. All the wallets are different and there are users with different needs

I agree with you on that one. These comparison sites should, in my opinion, be about hard facts without personal opinions or anything subjective. Adding a rating system does the exact opposite. You are showing the world what you think is better based on criteria that changes from person to person.

A security-conscious individual could have positive experiences with hot wallets, while someone who has no idea what they are doing could lose their coin from a hardware wallet.

[maxirosson]

BIP-85 is a standard to derive multiple seeds from a master seed. The derived seeds are unique and cannot be traced back to one another. I added to http://thebitcoinhole.com a new section with the wallets supporting this: Coldcard, Jade, Seedsigner and Passport Batch 2.

[maxirosson]

Lots of new features and improvements on our website where we compare more than 30 different hardware wallets. thebitcoinhole.com
- New wallet details screen with detailed info, official youtube video previews, dropdown to compare the wallet against others, and much more.
- Now you can compare wallets 1 vs 1.
- Added links to Reddit and Telegram communities (when available) for each wallet.
- More helpful info about each important feature of the different hardware wallets.
- Data fixes and improvements

[taufik123]

Lots of new features and improvements on our website where we compare more than 30 different hardware wallets. thebitcoinhole.com
- New wallet details screen with detailed info, official youtube video previews, dropdown to compare the wallet against others, and much more.
- Now you can compare wallets 1 vs 1.
- Added links to Reddit and Telegram communities (when available) for each wallet.
- More helpful info about each important feature of the different hardware wallets.
- Data fixes and improvements

It seems that the Website is quite complete with some new features added. Especially by adding important features on each wallet device.
Sometimes some features are missed and not read. Marked with color is also very helpful

There is one feature that might be added, Maybe you can add some Hardware Wallet photos from different positions.
Usually on the official website, there are many photos and some provide 3D images.
It can help to see the design in detail and not just from the front with just one photo.

Add "Pictures" under the main photo to see more photos.
Or use different layouts according to your taste, sliders, pop-ups etc.

Like the example I made below


Or you can see https://www.gsmarena.com/ website as a reference.

[maxirosson]

Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, that is something I have in my mind, but probably not a priority right now.

[maxirosson]

Added to the website new info to see which hardware wallet is integrated with BlueWallet, Blockstream Green & Bitcoin Keeper.

[dkbit98]

Added to the website new info to see which hardware wallet is integrated with BlueWallet, Blockstream Green & Bitcoin Keeper.

How about adding new Keystone3 hardware wallet?
Waitlist is currently open and they will soon announce discounted price with more information.
If you have Coldcard Q1 and Bitkey on your list that are still not officially released, than I see no reason why Keystone3 should not be there.

[maxirosson]

Added to the website new info to see which hardware wallet is integrated with BlueWallet, Blockstream Green & Bitcoin Keeper.

How about adding new Keystone3 hardware wallet?
Waitlist is currently open and they will soon announce discounted price with more information.
If you have Coldcard Q1 and Bitkey on your list that are still not officially released, than I see no reason why Keystone3 should not be there.

Added a couple of minutes ago. You can now see Keystone 3 on the website with the data I could find. I will update the info as soon as Keystone gives more data.

[maxirosson]

Some updates:
- Added more info for Keystone 3 wallet
- Now you can see Keystone 3 details here: https://thebitcoinhole.com/wallets/keystone-3 and Keystones 3 Pro here: https://thebitcoinhole.com/wallets/keystone-3-pro
- I created an official Bitcoin Talk user for The Bitcoin Hole: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3567186
- I launched a Bug Bounty Program. More info here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460363.0

[dkbit98]

- Added more info for Keystone 3 wallet

I see you added Keystone 3 and you wrote that battery for new model is not removable, so can you confirm this information?
It sucks they decided to go this route like most smartphones, since opening device will brake warranty and it could trigger their tampering detection protection and make it unusable.

- I created an official Bitcoin Talk user for The Bitcoin Hole: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3567186

What is the difference between The Bitcoin Hole and maxirosson members? Just Rebranding, or you are going to stop using this old account?

[maxirosson]

I see you added Keystone 3 and you wrote that battery for new model is not removable, so can you confirm this information?
It sucks they decided to go this route like most smartphones, since opening device will brake warranty and it could trigger their tampering detection protection and make it unusable.

Yes, that information is confirmed to me by the Keystone team.

What is the difference between The Bitcoin Hole and maxirosson members? Just Rebranding, or you are going to stop using this old account?

This is going to be my personal account. The Bitcoin Hole, the official account of my project.

[dkbit98]

@maxirosson
You need to make one small update on TheBitcoinHole website for Coolwallet Pro SE hardware wallet, as they now switched to Open Source license, like I explained in one of my previous posts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288971.msg62609304#msg62609304

We still didn't saw any confirmation from other websites like Wallet Scrutiny or Bitcoin Binary if code is reproducible or not, but they released source code yesterday, so I would give them some time to catch up.

[maxirosson]

You need to make one small update on TheBitcoinHole website for Coolwallet Pro SE hardware wallet, as they now switched to Open Source license, like I explained in one of my previous posts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288971.msg62609304#msg62609304

Thanks for the info. According to its license, it seems it is source-available, not open source: https://github.com/CoolBitX-Technology/coolwallet-pro-se/blob/main/LICENSE

[maxirosson]

Added sorting to our website. Now you can sort all the hardware wallets by Price, Year, Warranty, Weight and Screen Size.

[dkbit98]

Added sorting to our website. Now you can sort all the hardware wallets by Price, Year, Warranty, Weight and Screen Size.

Nice update.
I see in last few weeks many new similar websites starting to appear for hardware wallet comparison and I still like yours the best, but athena-alpha.com is doing a good job also.
One recent correction for you, Keystone 3 Pro is now open for orders and discounted price is $90 in next several days, but I don't see Keystone 3 regular version available for purchase.

[maxirosson]

I see in last few weeks many new similar websites starting to appear for hardware wallet comparison and I still like yours the best, but athena-alpha.com is doing a good job also.
One recent correction for you, Keystone 3 Pro is now open for orders and discounted price is $90 in next several days, but I don't see Keystone 3 regular version available for purchase.

Thanks for the correction.
I knew about athena-alpha.com. Which other similar website did you find?

[dkbit98]

Thanks for the correction.
I knew about athena-alpha.com. Which other similar website did you find?

No problem.
I didnt want to advertise any other websites in your topic but since you already asked... I saw one project posted recently in Project Development section, it's called crypto-hardware.com.
It has a different layout from thebitcoinhole.com website and they need to add a lot more wallets in their database, but maybe you find some inspiration there.
Healthy competition can be good.

[maxirosson]

New addition to the website: Cypherock X1: https://thebitcoinhole.com/wallets/cypherock-x1

Cypherock X1 is a wallet that splits your private key into 5 parts using Shamir Secret Sharing. Each part is uniquely stored on the X1 vault and the 4 X1 cards. So you can distribute them into geographically different locations.
To make a transaction, you just need to fetch and tap any 1 out of the 4 cards on the X1 vault using NFC.

[dkbit98]

New addition to the website: Cypherock X1: https://thebitcoinhole.com/wallets/cypherock-x1

Nice one

One more suggestion, can you add information if code for Open Source hardware wallets can be verified and reproduced or not?
If this has been done by someone, for example bitcoinbinary.org or walletscrutiny.com, you can post a clickable link for that.
Another member has a good point that not everything that has Open Source label is really Open Source... we all remember ColdCard and Keystone was doing similar advertisement for their devices.  

[maxirosson]

One more suggestion, can you add information if code for Open Source hardware wallets can be verified and reproduced or not?
If this has been done by someone, for example bitcoinbinary.org or walletscrutiny.com, you can post a clickable link for that.
Another member has a good point that not everything that has Open Source label is really Open Source... we all remember ColdCard and Keystone was doing similar advertisement for their devices.  

I already have that. Under the firmware section, I have "Source-available", "Open Source" and "Reproducible Builds" rows.

[dkbit98]

I already have that. Under the firmware section, I have "Source-available", "Open Source" and "Reproducible Builds" rows.

I know about rows, but I was thinking about creating additional top Reproducible filter tab for fast access, like you have for Open Source, Secure Element, Air-Gapped, etc.
Ideally it would be great if I could select multiple filters at the same time, and have color changed when I click or unclick them.
I hope you understand what I wanted to say, I am a bit tired and I can't explain it better now.

[maxirosson]

I know about rows, but I was thinking about creating additional top Reproducible filter tab for fast access, like you have for Open Source, Secure Element, Air-Gapped, etc.
Ideally it would be great if I could select multiple filters at the same time, and have color changed when I click or unclick them.
I hope you understand what I wanted to say, I am a bit tired and I can't explain it better now.

Ok, I understand what you mean. I am working on adding support for filtering per each feature. So, you will be able to do that and much more.

[maxirosson]

Added support to filter the hardware wallets by all the features.

[dkbit98]

Added support to filter the hardware wallets by all the features.

It looks good, maybe a bit crowded but search option fixes that.
I just checked all hardware wallets that can be purchased with Bitcoin or LN, and I got only 15 from 40 devices, no wonder that ledger is not accepting BTC 
Imagine someone selling devices that should keep BTC safe in storage, but you won't accept that same BTC ... it just shows how much they support Bitcoin

[Pmalek]

I just checked all hardware wallets that can be purchased with Bitcoin or LN, and I got only 15 from 40 devices, no wonder that ledger is not accepting BTC 
Imagine someone selling devices that should keep BTC safe in storage, but you won't accept that same BTC ... it just shows how much they support Bitcoin

You know what they say, verify don't trust. You should have checked the information you found on that site and looked on Ledger's shop yourself.

Ledger doesn't accept crypto directly, meaning from your wallet to theirs, but does accept it through payment providers like Crypto.com Pay and Bitpay. The quality of these services is another topic of discussion.
If you use crypto.com Pay, you can pay with BTC, CRO, DAI, ETH, USDC, and USDT.
If you use Bitpay, the accepted coins include BTC, BCH, DOGE, LTC, XRP, ETH, etc...

[SFR10]

Added support to filter the hardware wallets by all the features.

Great addition, but I noticed the size & materials filters didn't have the materials and dimensions options in them... I understand why you excluded the latter, but I think it'd be better if users could also tick the materials of their choice ^{[even if it means adding roughly 10 more options to that section]}.
BTW, do you have any plans to move discontinued hardware wallets to a different page ^{[there are two at the moment]}?

[Pmalek]

BTW, do you have any plans to move discontinued hardware wallets to a different page ^{[there are two at the moment]}?

Are you talking about the Keystone Essential and Pro models or some of the other hardware wallets in the collection? If you check the main list without any active filters, you will notice that these two HWs are positioned all the way to the right with a 'Discontinued' notification under their pictures. I think that's pretty clear for anyone looking at the page that they are no longer for sale.

[SFR10]

Are you talking about the Keystone Essential and Pro models or some of the other hardware wallets in the collection?

Yes, I was referring to these two...

• If you check the main list without any active filters, you will notice that these two HWs are positioned all the way to the right with a 'Discontinued' notification under their pictures. I think that's pretty clear for anyone looking at the page that they are no longer for sale.
  

  You have a point, but OP mentioned in another thread that his/her "goal is to help users choose the correct wallet to buy" and if some of them are already discontinued, then perhaps they shouldn't be in the main list... Having said that, I noticed few of their "authorized resellers" still have them in stock, so perhaps placing another button beneath the discontinued and linking it to this exact page wouldn't be a bad idea.
  

[maxirosson]

Yes, the goal is to help users to decide which hardware wallet to buy. So, I decided to put them as discontinued at the end for two reasons:
- As you mentioned, some resellers could still have stock
- People with the old models will probably like to compare their devices with other wallets, to decide if upgrade or not.

In the future, I will see how to handle the increasing amount of wallets to display (including discountinued models). I will probably have to add pagination support, for example.

[maxirosson]

Great addition, but I noticed the size & materials filters didn't have the materials and dimensions options in them... I understand why you excluded the latter, but I think it'd be better if users could also tick the materials of their choice ^{[even if it means adding roughly 10 more options to that section]}.

In this phase, I decided to support single-option filters and sliders, which cover more than 90% of the features to filter. I plan to add the missing filters in the future.

[Pmalek]

Having said that, I noticed few of their "authorized resellers" still have them in stock, so perhaps placing another button beneath the discontinued and linking it to this exact page wouldn't be a bad idea.

Oh, so when you say they have been discontinued, it's like with Ledger's Nano S model. The company isn't officially selling the device. However, you can still buy it from resellers that have it in stock, and it still works and is supported with the update for the time being. I immediately associated 'discontinued' with no longer working/able to connect to servers, can't be connected with recent software, and those sort of of things.

[maxirosson]

Hi. I created a new page on the website where I compare the most popular Bitcoin Software Wallets: https://thebitcoinhole.com/software-wallets

I also opened a new topic about that comparison: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5465351

[SFR10]

- People with the old models will probably like to compare their devices with other wallets, to decide if upgrade or not.

You have a point and as much as I hate to give more spotlight to Ledger's products, I think Ledger Nano S should also be listed at the very end ^{[FWIW, I hate it but a lot of users still have/use it in the community]}.

I immediately associated 'discontinued' with no longer working/able to connect to servers, can't be connected with recent software, and those sort of of things.

It's my bad ^{[I should've explained it in a better way]}

[Kruw]

Under the "Privacy" category, you can add "Coinjoin" to the Trezor Model T and Trezor One: https://content.trezor.io/coinjoin

Coinjoins allow you to combine your UTXOs with other users into a giant transaction, making it no longer possible to determine which inputs created any output: https://mempool.space/tx/d465033214fd2309dcce5a90c45fcaa788aa4394ee36debe07aad8d8a37907d2

[Pmalek]

You are right, Mr. Kruw.
Coinjoins are a good invention. One must make sure to use a respected software, though. Because a privacy tool that looks like one on the surface, but works with companies that deanonymize users and investigates the origins of their UTXOs isn't to be trusted. Don't do coinjoins with Wasabi and its default zkSNACKs coordinator because each of your UTXOs will be sent to blockchain analysis. Your privacy will be invaded to investigate if you deserve to have privacy in the first place.   

[maxirosson]

Under the "Privacy" category, you can add "Coinjoin" to the Trezor Model T and Trezor One: https://content.trezor.io/coinjoin

Yes, I would like to add that section. I am starting to research if there are other hardware wallets supporting coinjoin: https://twitter.com/thebitcoinhole/status/1698349710845640934

[dkbit98]

Yes, I would like to add that section. I am starting to research if there are other hardware wallets supporting coinjoin: https://twitter.com/thebitcoinhole/status/1698349710845640934

I am pretty sure Passport hardware wallet is fully supporting Coinjoin with Samourai Wallet Whirlpool implementation.
There is even blog article written last year on foundationdevices website with clear instructions how to use it, and they even mentioned Payjoin here:
https://foundationdevices.com/2022/03/passport-coinjoin/

Another article How to Interact with Bitcoin Privately:
https://foundationdevices.com/2022/05/interacting-with-bitcoin-privately/

[maxirosson]

Yes, I would like to add that section. I am starting to research if there are other hardware wallets supporting coinjoin: https://twitter.com/thebitcoinhole/status/1698349710845640934

I am pretty sure Passport hardware wallet is fully supporting Coinjoin with Samourai Wallet Whirlpool implementation.
There is even blog article written last year on foundationdevices website with clear instructions how to use it, and they even mentioned Payjoin here:
https://foundationdevices.com/2022/03/passport-coinjoin/

Another article How to Interact with Bitcoin Privately:
https://foundationdevices.com/2022/05/interacting-with-bitcoin-privately/

I am not sure, but I understand that they are teaching how to buy a passport paying with coinjoin (from a software wallet).

[maxirosson]

Added new features to the software & hardware wallets comparison websites:
- Now you can see the license of each software wallet source code and hardware wallet firmware.
- Added lots of new filters

[dkbit98]

Added new features to the software & hardware wallets comparison websites

I wrote my suggestion about adding Krux hardware wallet few months ago, but you probably missed it or forgot about it.
Krux is a good alternative for SeeSigner, and it can be used with QR codes as airgapped device, using M5StickV or Maix Amigo.

Since you started adding DIY devices, you can consider adding Krux wallet.
This project is smaller than SeedSigner or Specter, but it's very affordable and base device M5StickV looks very similar like Jade wallet and Maix Amigo is amazing.
You can find more information about Krux in my topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5350905.0

[maxirosson]

I wrote my suggestion about adding Krux hardware wallet few months ago, but you probably missed it or forgot about it.
Krux is a good alternative for SeeSigner, and it can be used with QR codes as airgapped device, using M5StickV or Maix Amigo.

I added it to my backlog. I need to prioritize because there are lots of things to add to the website.

[maxirosson]

Added new Tangem wallet.

https://thebitcoinhole.com/

[maxirosson]

Added new SecuX Shield BIO hardware wallet !!!!

[dkbit98]

Added new SecuX Shield BIO hardware wallet

Maybe you should add word SecuX in front because it's currently separated from all other SecuX wallets on your website.
I always liked design of hardware wallets in form of credit cards, and SecuX Shield BIO has nice additional e-ink display, but I am not a fan of biometric fingerprints for hardware wallets.

PS
One more hardware wallet you can add is new SafePal X1:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466619

I added it to my backlog. I need to prioritize because there are lots of things to add to the website.

Krux wallet was released way before Secux Shield BIO, so please find some time to include it.
It's much more important to spread the word about open source DIY wallets, than about closed source products.

[maxirosson]

Krux wallet was released way before Secux Shield BIO, so please find some time to include it.
It's much more important to spread the word about open source DIY wallets, than about closed source products.

I will try to investigate Krux and see if I can include it in the short term. I try to give priority to the new models of the manufacturers that are already included.

[maxirosson]

Two new SafePal additions to our hardware wallets comparison:
- SafePal S1 Pro
- SafePal X1

[maxirosson]

Krux wallet was released way before Secux Shield BIO, so please find some time to include it.
It's much more important to spread the word about open source DIY wallets, than about closed source products.

Finally, I added Krux to the website !!!!

[maxirosson]

New feature added to the website. Now I display the "12/24 Words BIP39 Seed Creation/Import" support for each Hardware Wallet.

[dkbit98]

Two new SafePal additions to our hardware wallets comparison:
- SafePal S1 Pro
- SafePal X1

You still don't know exact dimensions and weight for new model Safepal X1?
Another thing according to their website, available connection methods are USB and Bluetooth, that means that USB can probably be used for data also.

PS
Thanks for finally adding Krux

[maxirosson]

You still don't know exact dimensions and weight for new model Safepal X1?
Another thing according to their website, available connection methods are USB and Bluetooth, that means that USB can probably be used for data also.

I didn't find the dimensions on any place.
Regarding the USB, you are right. Fixed. Thanks

[maxirosson]

I open-sourced the Hardware & Software Wallets databases.

https://github.com/thebitcoinhole/hardware-wallets
https://github.com/thebitcoinhole/software-wallets

Now anyone can collaborate by adding missing data, fixing errors, or adding new wallets.

[SFR10]

- Added lots of new filters

Quite impressed with how well you managed to squeeze in those filters

Two new SafePal additions to our hardware wallets comparison:

Now anyone can collaborate by adding missing data, fixing errors, or adding new wallets.

I'm not that good with GitHub stuff, so here are a few corrections:

• The other day, I mentioned in "another thread" that X1 comes with a battery capacity of 200mAh + it's no longer in the pre-order phase ^{[you might want to change its lable]}.
• S1 Pro has a 320*320 resolution ^{[on the "same product page", they're claiming that's also the case with the non-pro variant]}.

[maxirosson]

• The other day, I mentioned in "another thread" that X1 comes with a battery capacity of 200mAh + it's no longer in the pre-order phase ^{[you might want to change its lable]}.
• S1 Pro has a 320*320 resolution ^{[on the "same product page", they're claiming that's also the case with the non-pro variant]}.

Thanks for those corrections !!! I fixed them.

[dkbit98]

I open-sourced the Hardware & Software Wallets databases.

You really did amazing work in last few months, website is really useful and not only for hardware wallets, but for software wallets, books, etc.
I see you have seed backup section, so are you planning to add more information, detials and prices for that category as well?
Note that there are much more seed backup products available than hardware wallets

Current selection is not that great:
https://thebitcoinhole.com/seed-backup

[maxirosson]

I open-sourced the Hardware & Software Wallets databases.

You really did amazing work in last few months, website is really useful and not only for hardware wallets, but for software wallets, books, etc.
I see you have seed backup section, so are you planning to add more information, detials and prices for that category as well?
Note that there are much more seed backup products available than hardware wallets

Current selection is not that great:
https://thebitcoinhole.com/seed-backup

Thanks for your words!!!

Yes, improving the seed-backup section is part of my backlog. The idea is to have the same comparison table with sorting, filters, etc. I just need time to focus on that. I would need which are the best seed-backup features to include in the table. Any suggestions are welcomed.

[maxirosson]

I see you have seed backup section, so are you planning to add more information, detials and prices for that category as well?
Note that there are much more seed backup products available than hardware wallets

Current selection is not that great:
https://thebitcoinhole.com/seed-backup

Updated seed-backup section with more information: https://thebitcoinhole.com/seed-backup
Also added a open-source database with all the products: https://github.com/thebitcoinhole/seed-backup

I will add more products in the future, but it is a good start.

[maxirosson]

Added new Trezor Safe 3 models

[dkbit98]

Added new Trezor Safe 3 models

Almost identical dimensions like Trezor One

Are you sure that for Trezor 3 Passphrase entry is on hardware wallet, the same way like on Trezor T?
One member speculated that it remained the same like on Trezor One, that is only via computer or mobile.
I would also want to know what is the status with PIN and seed phrase entry, they are now with question mark.

[maxirosson]

Added new Trezor Safe 3 models

Almost identical dimensions like Trezor One

Are you sure that for Trezor 3 Passphrase entry is on hardware wallet, the same way like on Trezor T?
One member speculated that it remained the same like on Trezor One, that is only via computer or mobile.
I would also want to know what is the status with PIN and seed phrase entry, they are now with question mark.

Yes, I am sure. They say that on their website:

"The Trezor Safe 3 Bitcoin-only wallet is designed exclusively for safeguarding your bitcoin. Equipped with cutting-edge features like the Secure Element (EAL6+) and device-entry passphrase, it’s an impenetrable security pair."

I am trying to see if I get the missing info regarding the PIN and seedphrase entry

[SFR10]

Added new Trezor Safe 3 models

The screen sizes appear to be wrong ^{[it should be 0.96" (the same also applies to the Model One)]}.

I am trying to see if I get the missing info regarding the PIN and seedphrase entry

They mentioned in "this blog post ^{[refer to the second paragraph in number three]}" that we can enter all of the above things directly on the device itself

[maxirosson]

Added new Trezor Safe 3 models

The screen sizes appear to be wrong ^{[it should be 0.96" (the same also applies to the Model One)]}.

I am trying to see if I get the missing info regarding the PIN and seedphrase entry

They mentioned in "this blog post ^{[refer to the second paragraph in number three]}" that we can enter all of the above things directly on the device itself

Thanks for that !!! Fixed.

[Pmalek]

I would also want to know what is the status with PIN and seed phrase entry, they are now with question mark.

Their medium blog post confirms that all sensitive data are now to be entered on the hardware wallet and not on the computer which is the case with the Trezor One. That goes for the seed, PIN, and the passphrase. I feel like they should have explained this better on the website where they only mention passphrase entry on the device.

With the Trezor Safe 3, you can enter your recovery seed, pin, or passphrase directly on the device, maintaining the offline status of sensitive data.

  https://blog.trezor.io/trezor-safe-3-makes-crypto-self-custody-easier-than-ever-heres-how-7cb97198f7e9

[Volgastallion]

Amazing work man, i didnt know we have so many hardware wallets in the market, you know sometimes one only knows the most renamed brands. Im gonna read that one, because i want to buy someone. And also good to see a people like you into this place, you are welcome.

[maxirosson]

I added a new section comparing 18 different Bitcoin Nodes, feature by feature: https://thebitcoinhole.com/bitcoin-nodes

Created a new topic for that: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5470796

[Pmalek]

Perhaps you can edit the price for the Seedsigner on https://thebitcoinhole.com/.
You still have it set at $80. If assembled, the Seedsigner now costs $88 in silver and $93 in all other colors. If you ship it as a kit, it costs $93 regardless of the color. It doesn't make sense to me that the assembled silver Seedsigner model is cheaper than the one you have to assemble yourself. But it is what it is. If you add all the accessories to it (USB cable, MicroSD card, and QR code pack), the price goes up to $98. 

[maxirosson]

Perhaps you can edit the price for the Seedsigner on https://thebitcoinhole.com/.
You still have it set at $80. If assembled, the Seedsigner now costs $88 in silver and $93 in all other colors. If you ship it as a kit, it costs $93 regardless of the color. It doesn't make sense to me that the assembled silver Seedsigner model is cheaper than the one you have to assemble yourself. But it is what it is. If you add all the accessories to it (USB cable, MicroSD card, and QR code pack), the price goes up to $98. 

I still see $80 price in their page

[Pmalek]

I still see $80 price in their page

Are we using the same source/shop or perhaps talking about different ones? Is this the one you are using https://btc-hardware-solutions.square.site/product/orange_pill_kit/6?cs=true&cst=custom ?

It does say $80 to $98 but that's before you make any of the required selections. Select between the non-assembled and assembled unit in the first drop-down menu and the price goes up to $93. It's $88 if you select the grey device as I said previously. So, you have to ignore the initial price range you see once the page loads because no unit is selected at the time, which also doesn't make sense.

[maxirosson]

I still see $80 price in their page

Are we using the same source/shop or perhaps talking about different ones? Is this the one you are using https://btc-hardware-solutions.square.site/product/orange_pill_kit/6?cs=true&cst=custom ?

It does say $80 to $98 but that's before you make any of the required selections. Select between the non-assembled and assembled unit in the first drop-down menu and the price goes up to $93. It's $88 if you select the grey device as I said previously. So, you have to ignore the initial price range you see once the page loads because no unit is selected at the time, which also doesn't make sense.

Yes, using the same website. If you select "Do not add QR cards",  no microsd and no usb cable, the price is 80.

[Pmalek]

Yes, using the same website. If you select "Do not add QR cards",  no microsd and no usb cable, the price is 80.

You are absolutely right. I am getting the same price now. They did it in a very weird way, though. The moment you select between the assembled and non-assembled unit, it takes the price to $93 even before you make the other selections (QR cards, micro SD card, USB cable). And those aren't set to Yes by default. When you decide against those, it starts lowering the price and eventually reaches $80. My bad. No changes need to be done on your website.

[Ugali]

According to the list there is a Bitcoin-only firmware for the new Keystone 3 (Pro).
According to https://keyst.one/firmware this is not true:

Keystone 3 Pro doesn’t support BTC-Only firmware. We will develop a new BTC-Only product to provide a more dedicated BTC wallet solution

[maxirosson]

According to the list there is a Bitcoin-only firmware for the new Keystone 3 (Pro).
According to https://keyst.one/firmware this is not true:

Keystone 3 Pro doesn’t support BTC-Only firmware. We will develop a new BTC-Only product to provide a more dedicated BTC wallet solution

You are right. Fixed. Thanks for reporting that.

[SFR10]

@maxirosson
Yesterday, Ellipal "announced" the second generation of their Titan hardware wallet ^{[ELLIPAL Titan 2.0]} and based on "this comparison page", here are the differences with the previous gen:

• EAL 5+ Secure Element ^{[couldn't find any information about its model]}
• 24 words seed phrase
• Linux operating system
• 3-minute update time ^{[as opposed to 30 minutes]}
• Full HD IPS Display
• $169 price tag

[dkbit98]

here are the differences with the previous gen:

Well if Forbes is recommending it, than it must be ''good''  
I don't see any important changes, it still has closed source code, and it's much heavier than most modern smartphones.
With weight of 340g this is a real brick.

Full HD IPS Display

Totally useless feature for hardware wallet.
Nobody is going to play games or watch movies on ellipal.

[Volgastallion]

Full HD IPS Display

Totally useless feature for hardware wallet.
Nobody is going to play games or watch movies on ellipal.

Agree but you know how the markets move and you need to bring always "something new" and also you need to justify the price of your product so you start to add nonsense or not utilitty things to the product.

And when  you go to massive markets some idiots start to see more the display than the security of the wallet.... Sad but true.

[maxirosson]

- Added Ellipal Titan 2.0. The previous Titan wallet is now discountinued.
- Added new Tangem Ring
- SecuX Shield Bio is in stock, not in pre-order.
- Satochip integration on Sparrow

[maxirosson]

Created a new topic with all the hardware wallets deals on this Black Friday.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5475231.msg63209212#msg63209212

[maxirosson]

Added 3 new features to the Hardware Wallets comparison:
- Fee Control
- Replace-by-fee (RBF)
- Child-pays-for-parent (CPFP)

[SFR10]

@maxirosson
Just noticed one of the hardware wallets that only supported their utility token on its launch, is now supporting Bitcoin ^{[and a few others]} as well: KleverSafe

• EAL 5+ Secure Element
• 12/24 words seed phrase
• IP67-Rated
• Not compatible with other third-party apps
• $199 price tag

Added 3 new features to the Hardware Wallets comparison:

Nice additions

[dkbit98]

Added 3 new features to the Hardware Wallets comparison

Imagine having no coin control in hardware wallet  
Well anyone who purchase new Bitkey hardware wallet won't have that option, but they are not the only one.
I was surprised to see that many other hardware wallets don't have this basic feature available, to name some:
Ellipal all models, D'cent, Cypherock, SecuX all models, Ngrave, Prokey, Safepal all models, Keevo, Tangem, CoolWallet, etc.

PS
Bitkey is obviously not open source, according to their website, and latest statements.

[JayJuanGee]

I get a bit confused in terms of making comparisons - especially if one wallet type is not next to the one that I am trying to compare, or having to scroll across several pages horizontally to be able to see the comparisons in which I am interested.

Sure, I see the ability to filter various categories, but could there be a way to either select favorites (and then compare favorites) or maybe just a click box in the right upper corner to compare specific ones that are clicked (or the box could allow for the placement of a number value such as 1, 2, 3 and then the wallets would be sorted in accordance with the number that the user types in the box.. all the 1s would go next to each other, all the 2s next to each other, but after the 1s, and the ones without numerical assignment in their box would come last)..

Maybe being able to compare up to 10 or more at a time.. or if they are put in the order that the user-chooses, then maybe all of them can be compared and prioritized by the user.. and then that would end up allowing an ability for the user to order the wallets in a personalized way..- to customize which ones are next to each other if scrolling through the comparisons?

[maxirosson]

I get a bit confused in terms of making comparisons - especially if one wallet type is not next to the one that I am trying to compare, or having to scroll across several pages horizontally to be able to see the comparisons in which I am interested.

Sure, I see the ability to filter various categories, but could there be a way to either select favorites (and then compare favorites) or maybe just a click box in the right upper corner to compare specific ones that are clicked (or the box could allow for the placement of a number value such as 1, 2, 3 and then the wallets would be sorted in accordance with the number that the user types in the box.. all the 1s would go next to each other, all the 2s next to each other, but after the 1s, and the ones without numerical assignment in their box would come last)..

Maybe being able to compare up to 10 or more at a time.. or if they are put in the order that the user-chooses, then maybe all of them can be compared and prioritized by the user.. and then that would end up allowing an ability for the user to order the wallets in a personalized way..- to customize which ones are next to each other if scrolling through the comparisons?

Hi. Thanks for the feedback. On the filters section you have the ability to filter by wallet name so that you can pick your favorites.

[dkbit98]

Hi. Thanks for the feedback. On the filters section you have the ability to filter by wallet name so that you can pick your favorites.

I think you should add Seedkeeper by Satochip as one of the Seed Backup solutions.
This is not made from metal, but it is waterproof and it's better than paper in my opinion.
https://satochip.io/product/seedkeeper/

Can I pitch you another idea?

I know you are doing a great job on your website with hardware wallets, software wallets, seed backups, btc nodes and books,
but how about adding comparison for Debit Card and Gift Cards that support Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies?
There is only one or two websites doing that, mostly with outdated data and I am not impressed with them.

[maxirosson]

Thanks for the suggestion. I added it.

Hi. Thanks for the feedback. On the filters section you have the ability to filter by wallet name so that you can pick your favorites.

I think you should add Seedkeeper by Satochip as one of the Seed Backup solutions.
This is not made from metal, but it is waterproof and it's better than paper in my opinion.
https://satochip.io/product/seedkeeper/

Thanks for the idea. Could you give me more info so I can analyze it? Those websites you mention, for example. I am trying to focus on self-custody, so I want to be sure those additions are a good idea or not.

Can I pitch you another idea?

I know you are doing a great job on your website with hardware wallets, software wallets, seed backups, btc nodes and books,
but how about adding comparison for Debit Card and Gift Cards that support Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies?
There is only one or two websites doing that, mostly with outdated data and I am not impressed with them.

[JayJuanGee]

I get a bit confused in terms of making comparisons - especially if one wallet type is not next to the one that I am trying to compare, or having to scroll across several pages horizontally to be able to see the comparisons in which I am interested.

Sure, I see the ability to filter various categories, but could there be a way to either select favorites (and then compare favorites) or maybe just a click box in the right upper corner to compare specific ones that are clicked (or the box could allow for the placement of a number value such as 1, 2, 3 and then the wallets would be sorted in accordance with the number that the user types in the box.. all the 1s would go next to each other, all the 2s next to each other, but after the 1s, and the ones without numerical assignment in their box would come last)..

Maybe being able to compare up to 10 or more at a time.. or if they are put in the order that the user-chooses, then maybe all of them can be compared and prioritized by the user.. and then that would end up allowing an ability for the user to order the wallets in a personalized way..- to customize which ones are next to each other if scrolling through the comparisons?

Hi. Thanks for the feedback. On the filters section you have the ability to filter by wallet name so that you can pick your favorites.

Maybe you can explain a little bit better how I would achieve such a result to compare 5-10 wallets side by side and in one glance rather than typing in and presumptively looking at one named wallet at a time.

Let's say for example, I wanted to compare: 1) Jade, 2) Coldcard Mk4, 3) Bitbox02 (BTC ONLY), 4) Keystone 3 Pro, 5) Passport Batch 2, 6) Trezor Model T, 7) SafePal S1 Pro SafePal S1 Pro 9) KeepKey and 10) CoolWalletPro.

Then how would I accomplish such side-by-side comparison of those specific 10 HWs?

What I am suggesting is to put some kind of a check box or even a number ranking so that I can rank them myself and be able to see the ones that I choose side by side.  Do you see what I mean?  Is such a thing already possible?  If not, can you see how it would be user-friendly to be able to achieve a customized selection of side-by-side comparisons?

[maxirosson]

I get a bit confused in terms of making comparisons - especially if one wallet type is not next to the one that I am trying to compare, or having to scroll across several pages horizontally to be able to see the comparisons in which I am interested.

Sure, I see the ability to filter various categories, but could there be a way to either select favorites (and then compare favorites) or maybe just a click box in the right upper corner to compare specific ones that are clicked (or the box could allow for the placement of a number value such as 1, 2, 3 and then the wallets would be sorted in accordance with the number that the user types in the box.. all the 1s would go next to each other, all the 2s next to each other, but after the 1s, and the ones without numerical assignment in their box would come last)..

Maybe being able to compare up to 10 or more at a time.. or if they are put in the order that the user-chooses, then maybe all of them can be compared and prioritized by the user.. and then that would end up allowing an ability for the user to order the wallets in a personalized way..- to customize which ones are next to each other if scrolling through the comparisons?

Hi. Thanks for the feedback. On the filters section you have the ability to filter by wallet name so that you can pick your favorites.

Maybe you can explain a little bit better how I would achieve such a result to compare 5-10 wallets side by side and in one glance rather than typing in and presumptively looking at one named wallet at a time.

Let's say for example, I wanted to compare: 1) Jade, 2) Coldcard Mk4, 3) Bitbox02 (BTC ONLY), 4) Keystone 3 Pro, 5) Passport Batch 2, 6) Trezor Model T, 7) SafePal S1 Pro SafePal S1 Pro 9) KeepKey and 10) CoolWalletPro.

Then how would I accomplish such side-by-side comparison of those specific 10 HWs?

What I am suggesting is to put some kind of a check box or even a number ranking so that I can rank them myself and be able to see the ones that I choose side by side.  Do you see what I mean?  Is such a thing already possible?  If not, can you see how it would be user-friendly to be able to achieve a customized selection of side-by-side comparisons?

You can see the step-by-step in this video I posted on Twitter
https://twitter.com/thebitcoinhole/status/1732846389367906370

Basically, you need to go to Filters -> Basic Information -> Name and then pick all the wallets you want to compare.

[JayJuanGee]

I get a bit confused in terms of making comparisons - especially if one wallet type is not next to the one that I am trying to compare, or having to scroll across several pages horizontally to be able to see the comparisons in which I am interested.

Sure, I see the ability to filter various categories, but could there be a way to either select favorites (and then compare favorites) or maybe just a click box in the right upper corner to compare specific ones that are clicked (or the box could allow for the placement of a number value such as 1, 2, 3 and then the wallets would be sorted in accordance with the number that the user types in the box.. all the 1s would go next to each other, all the 2s next to each other, but after the 1s, and the ones without numerical assignment in their box would come last)..

Maybe being able to compare up to 10 or more at a time.. or if they are put in the order that the user-chooses, then maybe all of them can be compared and prioritized by the user.. and then that would end up allowing an ability for the user to order the wallets in a personalized way..- to customize which ones are next to each other if scrolling through the comparisons?

Hi. Thanks for the feedback. On the filters section you have the ability to filter by wallet name so that you can pick your favorites.

Maybe you can explain a little bit better how I would achieve such a result to compare 5-10 wallets side by side and in one glance rather than typing in and presumptively looking at one named wallet at a time.

Let's say for example, I wanted to compare: 1) Jade, 2) Coldcard Mk4, 3) Bitbox02 (BTC ONLY), 4) Keystone 3 Pro, 5) Passport Batch 2, 6) Trezor Model T, 7) SafePal S1 Pro SafePal S1 Pro 9) KeepKey and 10) CoolWalletPro.

Then how would I accomplish such side-by-side comparison of those specific 10 HWs?

What I am suggesting is to put some kind of a check box or even a number ranking so that I can rank them myself and be able to see the ones that I choose side by side.  Do you see what I mean?  Is such a thing already possible?  If not, can you see how it would be user-friendly to be able to achieve a customized selection of side-by-side comparisons?

You can see the step-by-step in this video I posted on Twitter
https://twitter.com/thebitcoinhole/status/1732846389367906370

Basically, you need to go to Filters -> Basic Information -> Name and then pick all the wallets you want to compare.

Oh?  Thanks.  now I am feeling dumb.  I see it now.  Within basic information there is a drop down menu on the "name" button in which I can select the wallets from within that dropdown menu that I might want to compare.  

So yes, that is exactly what I was trying to say that I wanted to be able to do, but I could not figure out a way to get to that point.. .. until now..   I do think that it might be better to change the descriptor to something like "compare by name" rather than just saying "name" or some other way of highlighting that compare feature a bit better, because some people (similar to me) might get overwhelmed by how many wallets there are, and just end up leaving the site and yes if they are on a phone or other small-screened device then maybe they can only compare a few wallets at a time..

Now that I know how to do it.. I am going to feel more empowered to make comparisons in the other sections that you list too, such as nodes or software wallets.

[dkbit98]

Thanks for the idea. Could you give me more info so I can analyze it? Those websites you mention, for example. I am trying to focus on self-custody, so I want to be sure those additions are a good idea or not.

This would be more like a way to spend Bitcoin on websites and services where Bitcoin is not accepted directly.
For example of gift cards there are websites like thebitcoincompany.com, bitrefill.com and maybe few others, that can be used to purchase this cards without kyc.
As for debit cards there are both kyc and no-kyc, virtual and physical, some of them are issues by centralized exchanges or other by companies.

Few examples I found in bitcointalk forum:
1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5208530.0
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5473572.0

[maxirosson]

Thanks for the idea. Could you give me more info so I can analyze it? Those websites you mention, for example. I am trying to focus on self-custody, so I want to be sure those additions are a good idea or not.

This would be more like a way to spend Bitcoin on websites and services where Bitcoin is not accepted directly.
For example of gift cards there are websites like thebitcoincompany.com, bitrefill.com and maybe few others, that can be used to purchase this cards without kyc.
As for debit cards there are both kyc and no-kyc, virtual and physical, some of them are issues by centralized exchanges or other by companies.

Few examples I found in bitcointalk forum:
1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5208530.0
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5473572.0

Ok. Sounds interesting but I would prefer to keep my focus on products related to self custody.

[maxirosson]

Some news about the website in the last weeks:
- Now you can see the latest version and release date of each hardware wallet firmware.
- Added Frostnap hardware wallet
- New features added:
  - Support to view receive address as QR
  - Support to view receive address as Text
  - Support to export receive addresses to SDcard
  - Support to verify receive address from QR

[SFR10]

- Now you can see the latest version and release date of each hardware wallet firmware.

Here are a few of the missing versions with their release dates:

- Ledger Nano S Plus = v1.1.1 ^{[January 8, 2024]}
- Ledger Nano S Plus = v2.2.3 ^{[October 19, 2023]}
- Ellipal Titan Mini = v3.11.0 ^[?]
- Ellipal Titan 2.0 = v3.12.0 ^[?]
- D'CENT Biometric Wallet = v2.30.1 ^{[December 18, 2023]}
- NGrave Zero = v1.4.1 ^{[January 2024]}
- Safepal S1 = v1.0.54 ^{[November 29, 2023]}
- Safepal S1 Pro = v1.0.54 ^{[November 29, 2023]}
- Safepal X1 = v1.0.4 ^{[November 29, 2023]}

- Added Frostnap hardware wallet

Quite interesting... In case you missed my "previous post", there's another one that's missing from your list.

[dkbit98]

- Added Frostnap hardware wallet

I don't know what to think about this new Frostnap device, and can we even call it a hardware wallet.
We don't have any substantial information about specs or price, except one early photo preview and text how everything should work in theory.

I found another hardware wallet Safeguard BVKey but I am not sure if they just cloned and slightly modified ledger device and made it more expensive:
https://safeguardvault.me/products/bvkey/

[RickDeckard]

I found another hardware wallet Safeguard BVKey but I am not sure if they just cloned and slightly modified ledger device and made it more expensive:
https://safeguardvault.me/products/bvkey/

Red flags all over the place - Both their privacy policy[1] and terms of use[2] are mostly copied from Coinkite own privacy policy[4] and terms of use[5]. I wasn't able to find any association of this product within Coinkite website and store[5] so I am just assuming that this was ill intended. If you click on their "Subscribe" button here[6] a random e-mail appears as well (123@qqq.com) which gives the idea that this was a rushed project.

Also, if you hover into their application links for Android and iOS (notice that the acronym is badly spelled) it will take you to a "fir.xcxwo.com" domain which is another red flag since it will take you to a shady webpage (belonging to China[7]) where it will present you a QR Code that probably will infect the device where you install it. I wouldn't touch this device with a stick (even while wearing a thin hat).
[1]https://safeguardvault.me/privacy/
[2]https://safeguardvault.me/terms/
[3]https://coinkite.com/privacy
[4]https://coinkite.com/terms-of-use
[5]https://store.coinkite.com/store
[6]https://safeguardvault.me/faq/
[7]https://urlscan.io/result/6a74ab74-03da-4d05-b399-7c6110c12839/

[dkbit98]

Red flags all over the place - Both their privacy policy[1] and terms of use[2] are mostly copied from Coinkite own privacy policy[4] and terms of use[5].

I didn't have time to research their website deeper but there was something fishy from start.
They are offering 40% fake discount and normal price for this device would be $500... that is crazy high price.
When I first saw device I thought it was just design fork of ledger nono X, but I compared the screen and there is a difference.

ledger X vs Safeguard display:

 vs  

Their twitter page is full of rnadom crypto news, and there is one carton video posted on their youtube channel,
they are talking more about ledger and other hardware wallets than about their own device:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_SMwtA12Z4

Also, if you hover into their application links for Android and iOS (notice that the acronym is badly spelled)

I think they are based in China, they are often making spelling mistakes like this.

[maxirosson]

Now you can see the Bitcoin Address formats supported by each hardware wallet: legacy, nested segwit, native segwit and taproot.

https://twitter.com/thebitcoinhole/status/1755297662780236253

[maxirosson]

Just noticed one of the hardware wallets that only supported their utility token on its launch, is now supporting Bitcoin ^{[and a few others]} as well: KleverSafe

Thanks. Added to the backlog

[dkbit98]

@maxirosson what do you think about newly announced open source hardware wallet called Portal, made by TwentyTwo?
This looks like interesting new concept of device that works without cables or batteries, and it is connected with smartphone via NFC connection.
One thing I noticed on their video is small screen that probably can't show complete bitcoin address at once.
Portal is currently being offered as pre-sale for €89 and delivery should be expected in Q3 of this year, unless something unexpected happens.

Good thing about it is that everything is released as open source even hardware schematics:
https://github.com/TwentyTwoHW/portal-hardware

 
https://twenty-two.xyz/

[maxirosson]

I love the idea of a NFC wallet with screen without any kind of batteries.

I don't like the shape. I would prefer something more similar to a credit card shape.

I already contacted them on Twitter, so I can add their wallet ASAP.

@maxirosson what do you think about newly announced open source hardware wallet called Portal, made by TwentyTwo?
This looks like interesting new concept of device that works without cables or batteries, and it is connected with smartphone via NFC connection.
One thing I noticed on their video is small screen that probably can't show complete bitcoin address at once.
Portal is currently being offered as pre-sale for €89 and delivery should be expected in Q3 of this year, unless something unexpected happens.

Good thing about it is that everything is released as open source even hardware schematics:
https://github.com/TwentyTwoHW/portal-hardware

 
https://twenty-two.xyz/

[maxirosson]

I added Portal hardware wallet to the website. Still waiting for a response from the TwentyTwo team, to complete the missing data.

I love the idea of a NFC wallet with screen without any kind of batteries.

I don't like the shape. I would prefer something more similar to a credit card shape.

I already contacted them on Twitter, so I can add their wallet ASAP.

[SFR10]

and it is connected with smartphone via NFC connection.

Unfortunately, that also means it's not going to work with certain types of phone cases.

Portal is currently being offered as pre-sale for €89

There's a 22% discount code ^[LOSTEMPIRE] for those who might be interested in purchasing this product.

I added Portal hardware wallet to the website.

Did you make any other changes to the tables ^{[specifically hardware and software tables]}? For some reason, it keeps lagging when I try to scroll down from the very top section in Google Chrome ^{[I couldn't replicate it in Tor, Firefox, and Microsoft Edge browsers]}.

• Still waiting for a response from the TwentyTwo team, to complete the missing data.
  

  While you're waiting for them to respond, you can safely change the question mark on the testnet to yes ^{["here's someone who's using it" with the Padawan wallet (a testnet-only wallet)]}.
  

[maxirosson]

Updated all the Portal Hardware Wallet specs on the website.

- 135 x 65 x 5 mm, 30g
- OLED Screen / 0.91" / 126 x 64 px
- Mainnet, Testnet, Signet and Regtest support
- Firmware upgraded through NFC
- Open source: https://github.com/TwentyTwoHW/portal-hardware
- Alphanumeric PIN entered via mobile app
- 12/24 words support
- Taproot addresses support
- Miniscript and mutisig support

and more.

[maxirosson]

Thanks for the feedback. I couldn't reproduce it, but probably the amount of data in the table is starting to be huge, mainly on the hardware wallets screen. I am planning to implement any kind of pagination, so the website can support more items.

Did you make any other changes to the tables ^{[specifically hardware and software tables]}? For some reason, it keeps lagging when I try to scroll down from the very top section in Google Chrome ^{[I couldn't replicate it in Tor, Firefox, and Microsoft Edge browsers]}.

[dkbit98]

I don't like the shape. I would prefer something more similar to a credit card shape.

Shape of this device looks like a key, and that is part of their logo also, so I understand why they choose to make it like this.
I don't fully understand how NFC device can have screen power, but I think that some smartphones usually have ring shape coils inside for charging.
So there is no secure elements in Portal?

Unfortunately, that also means it's not going to work with certain types of phone cases.

That is true, but most modern smartphones have NFC this days, even cheap models.

There's a 22% discount code ^[LOSTEMPIRE] for those who might be interested in purchasing this product.

Nice find!
I will try it later to confirm if it works, but I am not sure if they are sending devices from Europe or United States.

- OLED Screen / 0.91" / 126 x 64 px

Very small tiny screen, like I expected  
But I think most of operations will be conducted on smartphone anyway.

[SFR10]

Thanks for the feedback. I couldn't reproduce it, but probably the amount of data in the table is starting to be huge, mainly on the hardware wallets screen. I am planning to implement any kind of pagination, so the website can support more items.

You're very welcome I'm not sure what you did yesterday, but I'm no longer experiencing the issue in question ^{[the lag used to be around the header area only]}, so perhaps there's no need for the above implementation yet ^{[the current one-page design is great for using the Ctrl + F]}.

That is true, but most modern smartphones have NFC this days, even cheap models.

You're right ^{[it could be an option for a lot of users]}, but as someone who only uses extreme/tough rugged phone cases, I prefer not to remove my phone case to have a smooth experience with a hardware wallet ^{[I had a lot of bad experiences for changing such phone cases in the past (e.g. Breaking the phone case or chipping a small part of my previous phones)]}.

Nice find!
I will try it later to confirm if it works,

Thank you... For some reason, I can't find a way to manually enter any discount codes ^{[quite weird]}, and despite seeing on the cart page that "discounts are calculated at checkout", the following discount link didn't have any impact on the price:

Code:

https://store.twenty-two.xyz/discount/LOSTEMPIRE

[maxirosson]

Updated hardware wallets data on the website, comparing now 55 different Hardware Wallets.
- Added new OneKey Pro
- Added new OneKey Classic 1S
- Discontinued OneKey Classic
- Discontinued OneKey Mini

[dkbit98]

Thank you... For some reason, I can't find a way to manually enter any discount codes ^{[quite weird]}, and despite seeing on the cart page that "discounts are calculated at checkout", the following discount link didn't have any impact on the price

I tried the same thing  and it didn't work so I think discount code already expired.  
Maybe maxirosson will have another discount on thebitcoinhole website.

They released a new blog article from Portal, with a strange subtitle - Why is it so BIG?  
https://twenty-two.xyz/blog/why-you-are-all-wrong/

Updated hardware wallets data on the website, comparing now 55 different Hardware Wallets.

I can't keep up with all the changes in hardware wallet world, but OneKey clearly retired two of their wallets.
All their customers will probably stop receiving updates soon, as most of them probably purchased only 1 year support  
I don't see much difference with in OneKey Classic 1S wallet, except higher price, different secure element and different battery.

[SFR10]

@maxirosson
Earlier, while I was cleaning my bookmarks, I stumbled upon two old hardware wallets that despite being unpopular, they're still available to this day and both of them are still missing from the list:

• GridPlus Lattice1
  
  • Built-in tamper detection
  • 5-inch touch display
  • Offline backups with GridPlus SafeCards
  • Full control with lattice-connect (open-source)
  • Closed-source firmware
  • $397
  
  
• OPOLO ^{[formerly known as OPOLO Cosmos]}
  
  • EAL6+ secure element
  • 3.2-inch touch display
  • Anti-theft protection
  • PCB encapsulation
  • Closed-source
  • €149 ^[€299]

[taufik123]

Approaching the upcoming halving, Ledger is offering a purchase promo until April 15, 2024.

Get up to $50 of BTC this Bitcoin Halving



Ledger Nano X + $30 of BTC
Ledger Nano SP + $20 of BTC
The Ledger Duo + $50 of BTC
Ledger Nano X + Ledger Recover + $40 of BTC
CryptoTag + $10 of BTC

When will receive gift Card?
The physical gift card will be delivered along with your Ledger device.
The card will be inside an envelope.
Gently scratch the gray area of the card to reveal the code.

Note: The card also contains a QR code that takes you to the step-by-step instructions for claiming your BTC.

https://shop.ledger.com/pages/bitcoin-halving-offer

[m2017]

Get up to $50 of BTC this Bitcoin Halving

A little tediousness.

At what rate do these ledger vouchers contain BTC? By the time of delivery, bitcoin rate will change and the fixed 20$, 30$ and 50$ will already become less or more (this moment is not so bad). Or maybe the voucher automatically adds BTC at the current rate from the moment the redemption code is entered? In any case, there is less than a day left to find out (and limited supplies).

It should be added that the promotion (Source) is valid only for specific hardware wallet models (not all body colors will be available):

Ledger Nano S Plus Matte Black  
Ledger Nano X Onyx Black  
Ledger Nano X Onyx Black + Ledger Recover    
The Ledger Nano Duo (Are there only black options here too?)

[dkbit98]

Approaching the upcoming halving, Ledger is offering a purchase promo until April 15, 2024.

Maybe you should try not to promote stuff like this here, it is off-topic and has nothing to do with thebitcoinhole website topic.
There are plenty of other topics for ledger hardware wallet to post their crap voucher promotions.

I see new section was release for Bitcoin inheritance, so far there are five services listed:
https://thebitcoinhole.com/inheritance

@maxirosson
Can you please check if some correction is needed for Safepal hardware wallet and coin control?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5490974.msg63929075#msg63929075

[maxirosson]

Yes, added the new Inheritance section. I opened a topic here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5492618

You are right, Safepal added coin control in November. Fixed. Thanks

I see new section was release for Bitcoin inheritance, so far there are five services listed:
https://thebitcoinhole.com/inheritance

@maxirosson
Can you please check if some correction is needed for Safepal hardware wallet and coin control?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5490974.msg63929075#msg63929075

[thebitcoinhole]

Added Grid+ Lattice1

[Meuserna]

Approaching the upcoming halving, Ledger is offering a purchase promo until April 15, 2024.

I sure hope that when anyone is comparing hardware wallets, they consider the fact that Ledger hardware has key extraction firmware which means it's less safe than other options, not to mention how Ledger Live tracks everything they'll do.

Ledger should be avoided like the plague.  Even if they offered a 100% discount, making their hardware free, I wouldn't recommend Ledger.  Well, actually, if I really disliked somebody, I suppose I'd recommend Ledger to them.

P.S.  How's that STAX order coming?  Ledger Stax, announced in 2022.  Still hasn't shipped, and when it finally does it'll probably be more buggy than a beehive.

[dkbit98]

Added Grid+ Lattice1

I am not a fan of this Lattice1 hardware wallet and it's price, and I think it is more focused on ethereum than on bitcoin,
but since you added it already maybe you could also add their more affordable product that is used as a seed backup solution, and it's called Safepack.
Safepack is sold in pack of two cards and price is $40:
https://gridplus.io/products/safe-cards

PS
I still prefer Satochip card instead for this purpose.

[thebitcoinhole]

You are right, thanks. Added Grid+ SafeCards to the Seed Backup Solutions comparison: https://thebitcoinhole.com/seed-backup

Added Grid+ Lattice1

I am not a fan of this Lattice1 hardware wallet and it's price, and I think it is more focused on ethereum than on bitcoin,
but since you added it already maybe you could also add their more affordable product that is used as a seed backup solution, and it's called Safepack.
Safepack is sold in pack of two cards and price is $40:
https://gridplus.io/products/safe-cards

PS
I still prefer Satochip card instead for this purpose.