STAKE SCAMMED $100K AND NOT REPLYING EMAILS FOR 6 MONTHS

[rhomelmabini]

For 6 months? That's crazy because for sure in first week for having that problem for sure you will rant here and throw more bad words against them and maybe you already posted a scam accusation for your case to be notice. But coming right here and claim you encounter a problem well that's pretty shady man and if you really mean your issue is true then post some evidence then follow first the requirements and submit what they ask to you then after that you can claim that they are scam.

from what i understand, this guy handed over fake documents when doing KYC, so after that the casino stopped responding to him because the case was closed, there is nothing else the casino can do since the OP handed over fake documents, but OP keeps insisting that the casino is being unfair to him and then says the casino has no proof against him. honestly why would the casino lie that he handed over false documents? OP admitted that he sent his friend's passport instead of handing over his passport, then OP admitted that he handed over his son's document instead of handing over his document, how is this not handing over a false document? OP has no reason to keep complaining, he is wrong

No, the user was tagged first for match fixing and was asked for documentation yet it handed over fake documents not just one but likely four different set of fake documents. As far as I can understand it, it's under investigation and that if proven the user is involved in match fixing, they will not release the money and if not then he'd likely get it. Apparently, a new thread isn't needed since there's an active thread about this on the Scam Accusations board already.

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[goldkingcoiner]

I don't really know whom to believe at this point but i must say you have a very slim chance to be trusted from the above trust rating given to you by some reputable users.
Secondly to back your claim you need to provide some tangible and a cogent evidence to back the proof you were scammed $100k without a feedback till date.

when casino owners are DT on forum there is little you can do when they scam you. They scam you plus leave bad feedback .. do they have any proof of match fixing? if yes please show me

NotATether

2022-03-15

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Fake KYC and match fixing

And this is not only the sole rating. 3 other well respected members of this forum seem to all agree.

But if you can provide counterproof, we are always looking for the truth. Although it seems the truth is simple and plain here. You went against the terms of service and put the casino in a very bad legal situation. So now they are obviously not allowed to give you access to your funds due to the fact that you might be living in a country they are not allowed to offer services in.

My thoughts: Worst case scenario you will fight for your money back in court. But as you did not provide KYC I am thinking the reason for that is because you live in a country with strict gambling laws and otherwise would not have been allowed to create a stake account. So you kind of screwed yourself.

Next time read the Terms of Service before you go around whining about getting caught breaking rules.

[OgNasty]

For 6 months? That's crazy because for sure in first week for having that problem for sure you will rant here and throw more bad words against them and maybe you already posted a scam accusation for your case to be notice. But coming right here and claim you encounter a problem well that's pretty shady man and if you really mean your issue is true then post some evidence then follow first the requirements and submit what they ask to you then after that you can claim that they are scam.

from what i understand, this guy handed over fake documents when doing KYC, so after that the casino stopped responding to him because the case was closed, there is nothing else the casino can do since the OP handed over fake documents, but OP keeps insisting that the casino is being unfair to him and then says the casino has no proof against him. honestly why would the casino lie that he handed over false documents? OP admitted that he sent his friend's passport instead of handing over his passport, then OP admitted that he handed over his son's document instead of handing over his document, how is this not handing over a false document? OP has no reason to keep complaining, he is wrong

That was my understanding as well.  OP is lucky he wasn't reported to the police for fraud and had a sting operation setup to get him arrested.  Granted, it's likely because the funds involved were too minor to warrant the effort, but coming here and claiming Stake hasn't responded is not the way to go.  Especially if you aren't going to tell the whole story.  I think the shortened version of this story is that OP didn't like the response he got from the casino, so he keeps asking the same question over and over again, hoping the response will be different until they stop replying. 

[BGMI]

Do we need to KYC when playing on casinos?? I have wd alot of time from PD and didn't need any KYC(don't know about stake that it's needed to wd coins).
Also providing fake documents for KYC is illegal. You can try asking them if you can provide your legit documents for KYC.
If they still don't reply then file a suit against stake and deal in the court. Make sure you have all the proofs of you depositing to Stake.

[Grab]

stake.com is illegal gambling site !!
How the fuck they can push you to do KYC if not they keep your money. It is so fucking ridiculous.
Miss old good times, now support is fucking joke. Nobody control this idiots.

[Rating Place]

I understand Stake's point of view. But this is completely wrong of Stake to allow high limits on table tennis. Then Stake waited until the player got his balance up to $100k and asked for a withdrawal. Overall, Stake is a pretty good book but this is wrong. A case of using KYC to confiscate funds.

[Kakmakr]

I think the standard practice when someone provides "false" documents, should be that the account should be "locked" and later deleted. It is not clear if they did that and if OP opened an Alt account to continue gambling.

If he/she opened a new Alt account and then continued gambling... nobody would do anything, until a "red flag" are raised. (Like someone winning something big or someone that are continuously winning)  So when this happens, the casino will start to investigate and they will look for Alt accounts that are linked to "locked" accounts....and when it is found.... they will lock those accounts too.

OP, did you continue gambling on a new Alt account?

[rohitgames]

drop me private msg i can help you

DO NOT PLAY AT STAKE, THEY ARE HOLDING MY MONEY FOR MORE THAN 6 MONTHS

NO REPLY TO EMAILS, NO REPLY TO FORUM MESSAGES AND LIVE SUPPORT IS NOT REPLYING EITHER

DRAKE PROMOS COSTED TOO MUCH MONEY AND STAKE IS SELECTIVE SCAMMING NOW, CAREFUL!

[Wind_FURY]

Where is your evidence? But even if having evidence, why fake KYC? You have your money with a gambling site and you prefer to use fake KYC, what would happen last? It could bounce on you in a way you won't be favoured when the gambling site knows that you are manipulating with fake KYC.

I read the trust comments given to him, and one of them had a link referencing to a post by Stunna replying to OP. He said that OP sent them four attempts for KYC to verify his identity, and each KYC verification attempt had four DIFFERENT identities used. Hahaha.

Match fixing yes or no, we did not see any proof for that, only words from a stake representative.

There must be solid proof these matches were fixed, otherwise what's the discussion?

What's the names of the players, which tournament? There should be a public record of that.

KYC is a whole other story, first the match fixing thing should be proven with solid evidence. If there is no evidence there was no reason to not pay him in the first place.

It's probably true that OP's knowledge or non-knowledge on match fixing can't be proven, but the casino decided to ask for KYC because of the change in his/her betting patterns. Why did OP try to use four different identities, which has given the casino a reason to believe that none of them is his/her real identity.

[mak013]

stake.com is illegal gambling site !!
How the fuck they can push you to do KYC if not they keep your money. It is so fucking ridiculous.
Miss old good times, now support is fucking joke. Nobody control this idiots.

The world changes. Now casino have to make KYC if they want to work legal and the gambler can choose to use casino with KYC and guarantee that your money safe or use casino without KYC but without any guarantees. Less anonymity more security. Today you have a choice, it is better as for me than you had to gamble and just believe that casino is not a scam.

[lionheart78]

I believe the case escalate when @OP submitted a fake document during the KYC process.  Looking at the trust ratings, OP is suspected of being involved in match fixing then submitted a fake KYC when asked.  The violation of fake kyc is indeed the ground for the account's withdrawal suspension. It is stated on stake's Terms and condition.

4. Know your Customer ("KYC")
Stake reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Stake reserves the right to restrict the Service, payment or withdrawal until identity is sufficiently determined, or for any other reason in Stake's sole discretion. Stake also reserves the right to disclose a User's information as appropriate to comply with legal process or as otherwise permitted by the privacy policy of Stake (owner and operator of Stake), and by using the Service, you acknowledge and consent to the possibility of such disclosure.

Where is your evidence? But even if having evidence, why fake KYC? You have your money with a gambling site and you prefer to use fake KYC, what would happen last? It could bounce on you in a way you won't be favoured when the gambling site knows that you are manipulating with fake KYC.

I read the trust comments given to him, and one of them had a link referencing to a post by Stunna replying to OP. He said that OP sent them four attempts for KYC to verify his identity, and each KYC verification attempt had four DIFFERENT identities used. Hahaha.

I believe submitting fake KYC is a good reason enough to suspend any withdrawals or even block the account without allowing or returning the funds to users since the account can be tagged as fraud or use for money laundering.

Match fixing yes or no, we did not see any proof for that, only words from a stake representative.

There must be solid proof these matches were fixed, otherwise what's the discussion?

What's the names of the players, which tournament? There should be a public record of that.

KYC is a whole other story, first the match fixing thing should be proven with solid evidence. If there is no evidence there was no reason to not pay him in the first place.

It's probably true that OP's knowledge or non-knowledge on match fixing can't be proven, but the casino decided to ask for KYC because of the change in his/her betting patterns. Why did OP try to use four different identities, which has given the casino a reason to believe that none of them is his/her real identity.

Match fixing may not be proven but submitting fake KYC can be a solid reason to ground the account.

[virasisog]

Where is your evidence? But even if having evidence, why fake KYC? You have your money with a gambling site and you prefer to use fake KYC, what would happen last? It could bounce on you in a way you won't be favoured when the gambling site knows that you are manipulating with fake KYC.

I read the trust comments given to him, and one of them had a link referencing to a post by Stunna replying to OP. He said that OP sent them four attempts for KYC to verify his identity, and each KYC verification attempt had four DIFFERENT identities used. Hahaha.

Match fixing yes or no, we did not see any proof for that, only words from a stake representative.

There must be solid proof these matches were fixed, otherwise what's the discussion?

What's the names of the players, which tournament? There should be a public record of that.

KYC is a whole other story, first the match fixing thing should be proven with solid evidence. If there is no evidence there was no reason to not pay him in the first place.

It's probably true that OP's knowledge or non-knowledge on match fixing can't be proven, but the casino decided to ask for KYC because of the change in his/her betting patterns. Why did OP try to use four different identities, which has given the casino a reason to believe that none of them is his/her real identity.

It's really illegal to use other people's identities, especially using their identification cards to comply with the KYC. That is clearly a form of cheating and Op might have been doing that thing for a long time. He should have been honest and just submit his own details. The casino site has the right to ban him or not to respond to his claims because he has a serious violation.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

OP, please go and rest, it is actually funny when a scammer turns around to claim he or she was scammed, your trust score already says alot about you.

First, Stake held your money for 6 months and you are just talking about it now, and not even with any form of evidence, and in the wrong board too, you are not a newbie on this forum, you should already know the right board to make your scam and accusation posts, and also should know what is required of you so as to get the community's support.
So please get your acts right and stop whinning here.

[GigiBet]

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[Nrcewker]

Please before accusing such a big casino with such a sensitive matter, atleast provide some proofs.
We have been playing at Stake from many years. Till today I haven’t faced any single problem with them. I am expecting this happened with other people also. So yes apart from writing in Red colour, if you have any proofs to present, then that will be great.
Moreover you should also required to mention the scenario, that exactly happened with you. Then only people will believe to your accusations.

[wxa7115]

I don`t think that the problem is the stake. The trust shows us the fake KYC, so it looks like that the OP tried to cheat casino but was caught. The one more reason is that there is no any information from the OP, just a cry.
@Baskin198 If you give some proves it would be easier to believe you but you made you trust by yourself so it is difficult enough to believe.

There is not much to see here as the case seems to be clear, even if stake could not prove the OP was engaged in match fixing he failed to pass KYC with at least two different identities, maybe 3 who knows, and most likely somewhere on the TOS of stake there are very harsh consequences for anyone trying to do that.

So while such a massive loss always brings in me some sort of sympathy for the one that lost so much money, it is clear to me the OP is responsible for what it is happening to him.

[robelneo]

Lately, Stake is both in the scam section and here in the gambling section with a lot of accusations but this is one accusation that will not stand up against Stake, first OP is not giving us anything just a warning post without a valid reason to back up his accusation, second, he has a bad rating for game fixing and providing fake ID, you are a boy who cried wolf here nobody will believe you anymore because of your bad behavior on casinos you're playing, I hope other concern will be address by the Stake team.

[Docnaster]

OP, please go and rest, it is actually funny when a scammer turns around to claim he or she was scammed, your trust score already says alot about you.

First, Stake held your money for 6 months and you are just talking about it now, and not even with any form of evidence, and in the wrong board too, you are not a newbie on this forum, you should already know the right board to make your scam and accusation posts, and also should know what is required of you so as to get the community's support.
So please get your acts right and stop whinning here.

He already shared this case 6 months ago, but someone in a stake sig campaign of course jumps to defend stake without proper reading.

What do you mean or who do you intend to deceive? The post you quoted above happened just yesterday, why did you say it happened 6 months ago? That is very deceitful and it will make you not to be trusted by anyone.
Moreover, the information in Op is a total crap. An allegation without evidence, coming from a serial cheater.

[mak013]

I don`t think that the problem is the stake. The trust shows us the fake KYC, so it looks like that the OP tried to cheat casino but was caught. The one more reason is that there is no any information from the OP, just a cry.
@Baskin198 If you give some proves it would be easier to believe you but you made you trust by yourself so it is difficult enough to believe.

There is not much to see here as the case seems to be clear, even if stake could not prove the OP was engaged in match fixing he failed to pass KYC with at least two different identities, maybe 3 who knows, and most likely somewhere on the TOS of stake there are very harsh consequences for anyone trying to do that.

So while such a massive loss always brings in me some sort of sympathy for the one that lost so much money, it is clear to me the OP is responsible for what it is happening to him.

It is always so, if you break the rules. And in such situation it is a huge mistake to berak the ToS and after that het a large deposit. I think that all big casinos have security and if they work normally - they always inspect accounts with big deposits before withdrawal. It is possible to find some compromise usually but if someone like the OP cries and don`t try to help the security to solve such situation - the casino mostly use ToS to decide what to do.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

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He already shared this case 6 months ago, but someone in a stake sig campaign of course jumps to defend stake without proper reading.

You must be out of your mind to think I am defending stake, how does my comment imply that I am defending stake? If I wasn't wearing stake's signature, my comment would still be the same as long as the OP posted this accusation in the wrong board and also without any evidence.

So you think this happened to the OP  yesterday? This story is months old. check OP's posting history. The original scam accusation is from february: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383835.0

If indeed, OP has posted about this issue before, then he should have mentioned the previous thread in the OP so that readers don't take it he's posting about the issue for the first time, or do you go about looking at user's post history before replying to their thread?, then good for you bud, I am not jobless.