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October 23, 2022, 07:27:29 PM
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Hello guys,

I am looking for someone that has a group or a similar thing that allows you to pay a subscription and tells you his trading pairs...
Thank you.
It is just like looking for someone who could scam you. Maybe I was just kidding but the truth is that may you can find someone who makes such a favor but never think it will become profitable and work well. Honestly, I don't give advice of doing that, not because it is risky but because I'm not sure if that person is the right person for you. Instead of doing this, make help of yourselves to learn trading personally is this even make you more knowledgeable. Stop being lazy but have work on your own if you want to grow and know more about trading.
Anyone that wants to trade the markets need to be more committed on their decision, if they want to trade that is fine but then they need to employ all of their free time for months in order to become successful, if they think this is a sacrifice too big for them to make maybe it is time for them to reconsider their desire to actually trade the markets, as that lack of commitment is only going to hurt them on the long run, since most of those which get success in the markets do so on their own without the help of anyone else.
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October 27, 2022, 10:54:18 AM
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Hello guys,

I am looking for someone that has a group or a similar thing that allows you to pay a subscription and tells you his trading pairs...
Thank you.
I'm not against this bud but it is much better if you will trade in your own, you will grow by yourself and there will be a lesser scenario wherein you will blame others because you got losses. Trade and learn in YouTube, there's a lot of knowledge I gain in watching yt, there are some paid traders who teacher crypto trading in yt as well, if you have that money, use it as your trial and error budget.
Majority of us would really be that suggesting that it would be better if we do really make our own trades rather than making yourself that believe into someones trading success rate.

Some do really touch up copy trading or simply they are just too lazy on making their own trades.Its never been worth on wasting up your money into something which you could eventually make your own trades.

On the time that the person you are following had stopped? Then what you would do? Finding another one? What if the person you had followed had messed up their trades and losing the capital you do have?

For sure you would really be ending up on regretting and murmuring that you should have trade on your own and you might end up on having much better analysis.
Its never been good on copying someones trades and it would be better to learn and make on your own.

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October 27, 2022, 11:10:29 AM
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Well, OP, I hope you've got it right. But as you can see, many members are opposing your plan, and it was because we care about your future.
Honestly, you don't need someone to work with you but it was someone who guide you to become a good trader. Because at the moment that you understand trading, you can simply stand on your own feet and make decisions alone. If we wanted to grow and excel from trading, therefore, we have to work hard and stop relying on others.
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October 28, 2022, 03:16:17 AM
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Well, OP, I hope you've got it right. But as you can see, many members are opposing your plan, and it was because we care about your future.
Honestly, you don't need someone to work with you but it was someone who guide you to become a good trader. Because at the moment that you understand trading, you can simply stand on your own feet and make decisions alone. If we wanted to grow and excel from trading, therefore, we have to work hard and stop relying on others.
People need to be way more honest with themselves, if they do not want to learn how to trade on their own that is fine but then they need to stay away from trading, and if they want to earn money while trading the markets then they need to be ready to study them for months.

This idea of not learning anything about the markets and still make money while trading them is ridiculous, would we allow a person to perform a surgery while being guided by a surgeon? Of course not, the surgeon is the one that should take the responsibility as they are the ones with the necessary medical knowledge, and a similar idea should be applied to those which want to trade the markets while knowing nothing about them.
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October 28, 2022, 06:18:43 AM
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Well, OP, I hope you've got it right. But as you can see, many members are opposing your plan, and it was because we care about your future.
Honestly, you don't need someone to work with you but it was someone who guide you to become a good trader. Because at the moment that you understand trading, you can simply stand on your own feet and make decisions alone. If we wanted to grow and excel from trading, therefore, we have to work hard and stop relying on others.
People need to be way more honest with themselves, if they do not want to learn how to trade on their own that is fine but then they need to stay away from trading, and if they want to earn money while trading the markets then they need to be ready to study them for months.

This idea of not learning anything about the markets and still make money while trading them is ridiculous, would we allow a person to perform a surgery while being guided by a surgeon? Of course not, the surgeon is the one that should take the responsibility as they are the ones with the necessary medical knowledge, and a similar idea should be applied to those which want to trade the markets while knowing nothing about them.
And there are a lot of people who wanted their trading life so easy. They can use their money to hire people on their behalf which is not totally a bad idea. However, it was not the thing we should do always, instead we help ourselves to know more also about trading and embrace the responsibility to rely on other people who have no way to go far, we end up shortly and blame ourselves. As long as we have time and are capable to trade, I think we should do it personally.

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October 28, 2022, 06:38:29 AM
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Well, OP, I hope you've got it right. But as you can see, many members are opposing your plan, and it was because we care about your future.
Honestly, you don't need someone to work with you but it was someone who guide you to become a good trader. Because at the moment that you understand trading, you can simply stand on your own feet and make decisions alone. If we wanted to grow and excel from trading, therefore, we have to work hard and stop relying on others.
People need to be way more honest with themselves, if they do not want to learn how to trade on their own that is fine but then they need to stay away from trading, and if they want to earn money while trading the markets then they need to be ready to study them for months.

This idea of not learning anything about the markets and still make money while trading them is ridiculous, would we allow a person to perform a surgery while being guided by a surgeon? Of course not, the surgeon is the one that should take the responsibility as they are the ones with the necessary medical knowledge, and a similar idea should be applied to those which want to trade the markets while knowing nothing about them.
And there are a lot of people who wanted their trading life so easy. They can use their money to hire people on their behalf which is not totally a bad idea. However, it was not the thing we should do always, instead we help ourselves to know more also about trading and embrace the responsibility to rely on other people who have no way to go far, we end up shortly and blame ourselves. As long as we have time and are capable to trade, I think we should do it personally.
that's right, looking for a guide for us to learn trading will be better than us giving our money to trade with others.
indeed the goal will be the same, namely to seek profit. we have the same goal in trading. no one wants to intentionally lose in the trade they make.
develop our potential to continue to grow I think it will be better than we have to depend on others.



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October 28, 2022, 11:45:07 AM
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Trading signals. There's no wrong in subscribing to these kinds of groups as long as they are legit. The only downside here is you are relying on them and you are not learning at all.
There are some groups who offer signals and the same time lessons, which is a very good group for me, they are helping their members to learn trading not just giving random signals without any explainations.



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October 28, 2022, 03:07:04 PM
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Well, OP, I hope you've got it right. But as you can see, many members are opposing your plan, and it was because we care about your future.
Honestly, you don't need someone to work with you but it was someone who guide you to become a good trader. Because at the moment that you understand trading, you can simply stand on your own feet and make decisions alone. If we wanted to grow and excel from trading, therefore, we have to work hard and stop relying on others.
People need to be way more honest with themselves, if they do not want to learn how to trade on their own that is fine but then they need to stay away from trading, and if they want to earn money while trading the markets then they need to be ready to study them for months.

This idea of not learning anything about the markets and still make money while trading them is ridiculous, would we allow a person to perform a surgery while being guided by a surgeon? Of course not, the surgeon is the one that should take the responsibility as they are the ones with the necessary medical knowledge, and a similar idea should be applied to those which want to trade the markets while knowing nothing about them.
And there are a lot of people who wanted their trading life so easy. They can use their money to hire people on their behalf which is not totally a bad idea. However, it was not the thing we should do always, instead we help ourselves to know more also about trading and embrace the responsibility to rely on other people who have no way to go far, we end up shortly and blame ourselves. As long as we have time and are capable to trade, I think we should do it personally.
that's right, looking for a guide for us to learn trading will be better than us giving our money to trade with others.
indeed the goal will be the same, namely to seek profit. we have the same goal in trading. no one wants to intentionally lose in the trade they make.
develop our potential to continue to grow I think it will be better than we have to depend on others.

Better to learn something on how to trade for yourself rather than handing out easily your money to strangers online since you will just waste your money if you get caught by scammer hiding on a trader disguise. We need to be self dependent since we cannot get any get anything huge or change for betterment if we really on other people skills.

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October 28, 2022, 03:13:22 PM
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Hello guys,

I am looking for someone that has a group or a similar thing that allows you to pay a subscription and tells you his trading pairs...
Thank you.

99.9999% of the people claiming to give trading signals in return for paid subscriptions are scammers who have no idea what they are doing but they pretend like they are making a lot of money. If they truly made so much money with their trading, don't you think that they would not be asking for money from strangers?

I would suggesting staying far away from these "influencers" who offer something in exchange for your money. Its never worth it.

The only way to make money trading is by learning how to trade. And if you need to practice then there are money sites that offer dummy-coins on a dummy-exchange that you can practice with. Or just do thought-trading by looking at charts and documenting your "virtual" trades.

When you feel certain enough that you can make money, then and only then should you trade with real money.

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October 28, 2022, 08:18:01 PM
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Hello guys,

I am looking for someone that has a group or a similar thing that allows you to pay a subscription and tells you his trading pairs...
Thank you.

99.9999% of the people claiming to give trading signals in return for paid subscriptions are scammers who have no idea what they are doing but they pretend like they are making a lot of money. If they truly made so much money with their trading, don't you think that they would not be asking for money from strangers?

I would suggesting staying far away from these "influencers" who offer something in exchange for your money. Its never worth it.

The only way to make money trading is by learning how to trade. And if you need to practice then there are money sites that offer dummy-coins on a dummy-exchange that you can practice with. Or just do thought-trading by looking at charts and documenting your "virtual" trades.

When you feel certain enough that you can make money, then and only then should you trade with real money.
Why we cant say 100%?  Grin
If they are really making profits then we can logically say that whats the point of asking out for some paid subscription if we could do it on our own? For sure you would definitely be able to make more than that.
It would really be no sense that someone do really make out profits and still asking out for some followers for them to pay up some sub fees which simply means that as a personal opinion that its never been
wise on wasting up your money on something that doesnt really give out relevance on your trades.Yes, they might be having some high profitability but its never been that recommended on walking into this path.
You cant really make assurances that you do make money and its better to trade on your own which is much more wiser.
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October 28, 2022, 09:30:20 PM
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Yeah, thats why I'm asking. I can't find these people

Then you have a big problem, because if you can't find "those people", then you are definitely not ready to recognize if someone is legitimate or if they are setting a trap for you. Successful traders do not share their advice publicly but focus on their goals, and some indicators say that only about 5% of people who trade make a profit.

If you are already going on such adventures, follow at least one rule - invest only as much money as you are ready to lose. Most people learn from mistakes, it's just a question of how expensive those mistakes are.
Seems you are not ready to trade OP so better yet, focus on investing first and never invest an amount you can’t hardly afford. Also, learn to develop trading on your own through watching some free video tutorials in youtube. That way, you will gain ideas how to trade and on different scenarios in trading. Although copy trading may be good especially if you are still a newbie, but if you want to make consistent profits in trading, you cannot rely on it completely. Have your own skills and strategies in trading so you can be a good trader in the making.

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October 30, 2022, 09:02:20 AM
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A paid subscription sounds like the signals group or copy-trading follower-ships that are commonly tried by naive newbies to easily lose their money in the hands of scammers posing as the same. This comes from the get-rich-quick mindset with added laziness to make easy money, forgetting that money is never an easy commodity to get, otherwise there would be no poverty in this world.

If OP wants to trade, learn how to do it first instead of trying to follow someone or some group which will feed you with fake pointers. The hard way is the correct way and trying to get into a shortcut is a wrong step here.

I hope the OP has understood this clearly from all the input in this thread.

 
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October 30, 2022, 08:21:48 PM
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A paid subscription sounds like the signals group or copy-trading follower-ships that are commonly tried by naive newbies to easily lose their money in the hands of scammers posing as the same. This comes from the get-rich-quick mindset with added laziness to make easy money, forgetting that money is never an easy commodity to get, otherwise there would be no poverty in this world.

If OP wants to trade, learn how to do it first instead of trying to follow someone or some group which will feed you with fake pointers. The hard way is the correct way and trying to get into a shortcut is a wrong step here.

I hope the OP has understood this clearly from all the input in this thread.
Newbies need to wake up, there is no way that those signals groups are for real, even if the trader behind those groups has good intentions and he does not plan to scam the people that are following him, it is still almost impossible that someone that has the knowledge to trade the markets successfully will waste his time sharing his knowledge when he could just trade on his own, remain quiet and then make a fortune out of the same people he is trying to help.
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November 03, 2022, 10:30:04 PM
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A paid subscription sounds like the signals group or copy-trading follower-ships that are commonly tried by naive newbies to easily lose their money in the hands of scammers posing as the same. This comes from the get-rich-quick mindset with added laziness to make easy money, forgetting that money is never an easy commodity to get, otherwise there would be no poverty in this world.

If OP wants to trade, learn how to do it first instead of trying to follow someone or some group which will feed you with fake pointers. The hard way is the correct way and trying to get into a shortcut is a wrong step here.

I hope the OP has understood this clearly from all the input in this thread.
Newbies need to wake up, there is no way that those signals groups are for real, even if the trader behind those groups has good intentions and he does not plan to scam the people that are following him, it is still almost impossible that someone that has the knowledge to trade the markets successfully will waste his time sharing his knowledge when he could just trade on his own, remain quiet and then make a fortune out of the same people he is trying to help.
You would be just needing that logic and common sense which you would really be thinking that if they are profitable then they wont indeed wasting off their time on letting others know.
Newbies do usually easily believe with these kind of things which they get fooled that they could assure on making profits for long term but totally different.
Its not always ending up on positive result or outcome which it would made you realize that it would be better if you would make your own trading style and method
rather than making yourself get too dependent with these so called trade gurus and professionals.

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November 05, 2022, 12:18:42 PM
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I feel I should learn to trade from multiple sources rather than look for signal groups, paid or free, and use the money to practice what I've earned. It would be much better because at least I can learn about trading and if I study harder, I can have better trading skills. If we just rely on signals from other people, it might be okay but just imagine what will happen to you when someone else can't give you the right signal or he disappears with your money. You will be disappointed not to get anything from him. But that's up to you. In this case, we can't give you the best about that signal group.
This was the route I took, instead of subscribing to signal groups or channels, though it took me spirited efforts a lot of time and perseverance to reach where Iam today in trading, I learn those skills without a mentor, I read a lot of articles, journals and documents on trading including watching YouTube videos, I started from the basics because forex trading was my first priority and  point of learning was babypip.com where I learned all the elementary and newbie articles and studied till it advance and more complex ones, I also installed Charting platform on both Laptop and phone Mt4 thereafter funding my account with some small funds which I am trading with presently with a broker.

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November 05, 2022, 01:15:02 PM
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If I were you, I wouldn't waste time and money paying these people from the trade signals group and the reason is quite simple:

imagine that someone is a true trading genius, this person to make a profit needs to spend hours a day looking at charts and buying and selling, of course this person will have losses, it will not be every day that he will make a profit, but when that person has a big bank value he will have high profits, so why would this person create a group on the telegram channel to charge money and have more work to do a lot of technical analysis while this person can be earning a good amount of money? even if someone tells me: "one can create a bot" but if this bot is so good at trading then why would anyone need other people's money?

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November 05, 2022, 10:03:35 PM
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This is correct, while I do not agree with the idea of copying someone else or relying completely on them if someone is looking to do something like this then it is a huge mistake to think they are going to find a legitimate group at telegram of all places, when we know the place is full of scammers which want nothing but to get your money through all means possible, so if someone is looking for something like this their best bet is to use an exchange with this feature.
There are features that allows copy trading but it's not that good at all if someone will rely on completely. That's a wise strategy if we're going to think of it.

But doing that, you'll eventually realize that it doesn't look good if you'll be copying others way of trading because it might not work for you.

I guess for starters, it's a good way to start trading but if you've already learned the basics, make your way to your own strategies.
I think this will be much better when the general market is on a good move or bullish movement. Only if op decide to be trading on a downward direction then he can make some profits from copy trading and also trading. One thing we need to understand about trading is that is good to copy a good trader for a while so one cam learn how the market works and move and also how to reactive at a particular condition of the market.
You can just decided to copy trade without having good idea of the market and how the market moves. The market is so big and wide and we wouldn't want to make a big mistake that will cost us a big blow or regret later.
Yes, in fact it is a spectacular thing to say what happens is that sometimes most of the traders who make their trades and one can do the copy, it is only based on technical analysis and when technical analysis fails (according to the book of a random walk on Wall Street) is 80%, just like the fundamental analysis, the only thing is that a more fundamental technical analysis is done and then if they launch the signal, and even so at this time there is a large percentage of It fails, and one of the reasons is because there is no consolidated volume, and it is difficult to trade like that. In my case, I always look at the volume of BInance and the volume of Bitfinex.

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I suggest not looking for tipsters, because people who offer these services are deceivers trying to gather data from newbies like you, so they can resell it for other people, including scammers, or they just want a large database of customers to sell their products and services later through spam techniques. Telegram, whatsapp and discord are full of useless groups of people thinking they will be helped by crypto market's analysts, although analystis can't predict anything on short run in this market. Invest by yourself thinking on long term.

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November 06, 2022, 07:43:59 AM
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I am aware that some forum members provide such signals or predictions on Twitter, but I would not recommend any of them here. If you are truly interested in learning more, you must conduct your own research. They are not a reliable user, and there is no assurance that their signals are accurate, so I wouldn't recommend mentioning their accounts. They simply publish arbitrary predictions on their channel; if the prediction is accurate, they won't remove their post; if the prediction is incorrect, they can simply remove it to cover up their error.
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November 06, 2022, 12:00:03 PM
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I am aware that some forum members provide such signals or predictions on Twitter, but I would not recommend any of them here. If you are truly interested in learning more, you must conduct your own research. They are not a reliable user, and there is no assurance that their signals are accurate, so I wouldn't recommend mentioning their accounts. They simply publish arbitrary predictions on their channel; if the prediction is accurate, they won't remove their post; if the prediction is incorrect, they can simply remove it to cover up their error.
As long as what is shared is a signal without having to pay a subscription fee, it doesn't matter, just use it as an additional reference and use it if you have studied it before deciding to follow it or not, but if there are special funds to be allocated for trading activities, traders can follow copy trades only need to choose the right lead trades

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