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It is indeed a funny time to do that,probably they are trying to convince those "few" miners that did not have good technical know how to show that with the new drivers they can make "more money" by mining with those cards.The timing is right now that no one gives a real sh*t on mining on a large scale and their GPU-s being one the best 3080 ti will sell for very very low money,Nvidia partners are not happy and the prices of video cards will keep hitting new lows in the days,weeks and some months to come. Cheap cards with 112 Mhsh power are a very good buy right now by the way because mining will restart being as good as it used to be before Eth merge.
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October 14, 2022, 03:52:02 PM |
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It is indeed a funny time to do that,probably they are trying to convince those "few" miners that did not have good technical know how to show that with the new drivers they can make "more money" by mining with those cards.The timing is right now that no one gives a real sh*t on mining on a large scale and their GPU-s being one the best 3080 ti will sell for very very low money,Nvidia partners are not happy and the prices of video cards will keep hitting new lows in the days,weeks and some months to come. Cheap cards with 112 Mhsh power are a very good buy right now by the way because mining will restart being as good as it used to be before Eth merge. hmm 20 million a day is off the mining table due to Mr V.B.'s bright move. that is 7.3 billion a year both Nvidia and AMD want a coin to revive or be created as it simply 2x their business every good gpu mining year. I had an off to buy Rtx A4000 cards over 200 if I want for 500 each. These do 60mh and use about 115 watts. They list at 1000 retail on Provantage. I offered him 300 a card he said no. I will get back to him in a few weeks to see if he drops well under the 500 offer.
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Hehe it is so funny like nvidia is kinder garden. If i could talk to nvidias people to face ehhh ehh. What happened? Where is gamers that wanted cards? These gpu manufaturerers will never find good customer like a miner ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Hehe it is so funny like nvidia is kinder garden. If i could talk to nvidias people to face ehhh ehh. What happened? Where is gamers that wanted cards? These gpu manufaturerers will never find good customer like a miner ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Miners become lawballers haha, miners are on top of the food chain, gamers are always slaugthered first LOL
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Hehe it is so funny like nvidia is kinder garden. If i could talk to nvidias people to face ehhh ehh. What happened? Where is gamers that wanted cards? These gpu manufaturerers will never find good customer like a miner ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Miners become lawballers haha, miners are on top of the food chain, gamers are always slaugthered first LOL Lol food chain.so miners are shrimps ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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October 15, 2022, 03:42:30 AM |
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Yes I am not surprised by this at all. The only reason Nvidia created LHR GPUs was because the Nvidia fanboys were crying all over the gaming forums how they cannot buy any GPUs because miners bought all the supply.
So they created this little software hack in a way to make those fan boys happy. However I am pretty sure miners bought these GPUs anyways and it didn’t do much. The nail on the coffin was when ETH went POS last month.
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October 15, 2022, 05:32:04 AM |
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It was doomed from the start. It couldn't be too strict because it would risk false positives so it was easilly defeatable by running a dummy process. Even without unlockers miners still bought them in large numbers and at inflated prices. Most mining software now has built in unlocking so LHR is complely neutralised. It was a complete waste of time and money.
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October 15, 2022, 09:38:10 AM |
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Yes I am not surprised by this at all. The only reason Nvidia created LHR GPUs was because the Nvidia fanboys were crying all over the gaming forums how they cannot buy any GPUs because miners bought all the supply.
So they created this little software hack in a way to make those fan boys happy. However I am pretty sure miners bought these GPUs anyways and it didn’t do much. The nail on the coffin was when ETH went POS last month.
I believe this to be temporary though as I am sure Nvidia underground is sponsoring the next best thing to replace Ethereum after it moved to POS.It generated a huge income for Nvidia especially during 2020-2022 which they made huge sales selling the cards well over MSRP and sometimes even 3x over the MSRP or more. I only hope they will sponsor ETHW as I will mine it,but other than that I am sure they will definitely sponsor a new coin,it is a huge chunk of money that they are losing out just because Eth moved to POS a month ago.
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October 15, 2022, 11:30:01 AM |
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Yes I am not surprised by this at all. The only reason Nvidia created LHR GPUs was because the Nvidia fanboys were crying all over the gaming forums how they cannot buy any GPUs because miners bought all the supply.
So they created this little software hack in a way to make those fan boys happy. However I am pretty sure miners bought these GPUs anyways and it didn’t do much. The nail on the coffin was when ETH went POS last month.
I believe this to be temporary though as I am sure Nvidia underground is sponsoring the next best thing to replace Ethereum after it moved to POS.It generated a huge income for Nvidia especially during 2020-2022 which they made huge sales selling the cards well over MSRP and sometimes even 3x over the MSRP or more. I only hope they will sponsor ETHW as I will mine it,but other than that I am sure they will definitely sponsor a new coin,it is a huge chunk of money that they are losing out just because Eth moved to POS a month ago. I am sure that Nvidia will not sponsor ETHW and other ethereum forks, because these coins are very well mined on old video cards, such as the Radeon Rx 480. The Nvidia company has a new coin that will be well mined only on new video cards, and mining on old GPUs is unprofitable.
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It's natural but late, since LHR was already hacked by miners. I don't know about the cash of Nvidia but there's no miners to buy every single piece of hardware anymore. There's no AAA games to sell cards. RTX 4XXX is very expensive and there are good amount of offer in used market (RTX 2xxx, RTX 3xxx etc)
There's Intel GPUs, and there's AMD's new GPUs
Hacker already broke the new "exclusive" DLLS3
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October 16, 2022, 03:48:10 AM |
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Yes I am not surprised by this at all. The only reason Nvidia created LHR GPUs was because the Nvidia fanboys were crying all over the gaming forums how they cannot buy any GPUs because miners bought all the supply.
So they created this little software hack in a way to make those fan boys happy. However I am pretty sure miners bought these GPUs anyways and it didn’t do much. The nail on the coffin was when ETH went POS last month.
I believe this to be temporary though as I am sure Nvidia underground is sponsoring the next best thing to replace Ethereum after it moved to POS.It generated a huge income for Nvidia especially during 2020-2022 which they made huge sales selling the cards well over MSRP and sometimes even 3x over the MSRP or more. I only hope they will sponsor ETHW as I will mine it,but other than that I am sure they will definitely sponsor a new coin,it is a huge chunk of money that they are losing out just because Eth moved to POS a month ago. Nvidia didn’t benefit whether the card sold at MSRP or 3x over. The only ones that did benefit were the ones flipping them. Or perhaps some online retailers who marked them up a little. They sold their GPUs mostly to AIB for a fixed cost. So if it sold below, at or above MSRP they made the same amount of money. Sure it was good for their business. I remember years ago before mining, computer stores had tons of GPUs because nobody bought them, people played on Xbox instead. So how will they do now? Will they survive? Sure but their profits will definitely be much much lower than before.
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October 16, 2022, 04:51:42 AM |
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Too late, Nvidia knew that mining Ethereum is no more working on its graphic cards and other algorithms are not profitable, well played Nvidia well played, there is no reason to be excited about the unlock. Crazy people
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October 17, 2022, 07:36:57 AM |
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Yes I am not surprised by this at all. The only reason Nvidia created LHR GPUs was because the Nvidia fanboys were crying all over the gaming forums how they cannot buy any GPUs because miners bought all the supply.
So they created this little software hack in a way to make those fan boys happy. However I am pretty sure miners bought these GPUs anyways and it didn’t do much. The nail on the coffin was when ETH went POS last month.
I believe this to be temporary though as I am sure Nvidia underground is sponsoring the next best thing to replace Ethereum after it moved to POS.It generated a huge income for Nvidia especially during 2020-2022 which they made huge sales selling the cards well over MSRP and sometimes even 3x over the MSRP or more. I only hope they will sponsor ETHW as I will mine it,but other than that I am sure they will definitely sponsor a new coin,it is a huge chunk of money that they are losing out just because Eth moved to POS a month ago. Nvidia didn’t benefit whether the card sold at MSRP or 3x over. The only ones that did benefit were the ones flipping them. Or perhaps some online retailers who marked them up a little. They sold their GPUs mostly to AIB for a fixed cost. So if it sold below, at or above MSRP they made the same amount of money. Sure it was good for their business. I remember years ago before mining, computer stores had tons of GPUs because nobody bought them, people played on Xbox instead. So how will they do now? Will they survive? Sure but their profits will definitely be much much lower than before. Hell yeah they benefited from it. I know person made deal with msi directly one day later they changed price he asked why? Msi answered nvidia did price up because eth price last night pumped ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) it happened with rtx3000 series. They made fortune this time.
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October 21, 2022, 01:03:54 AM |
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Is this confirmed now? I haven’t downloaded the latest drivers to try but I would if this is true. Granted I’m not mining now anyway, but I’m still curious. I wonder if there have been any lawsuits filed against Nvidia for this limiting of their hardware. It seems like some legal guru out there could probably put together a decent class action lawsuit if they were bored enough. Especially now that it’s been (allegedly) unlocked since ETH mining is no longer a thing.
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October 21, 2022, 10:12:48 AM |
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Is this confirmed now? I haven’t downloaded the latest drivers to try but I would if this is true. Granted I’m not mining now anyway, but I’m still curious. I wonder if there have been any lawsuits filed against Nvidia for this limiting of their hardware. It seems like some legal guru out there could probably put together a decent class action lawsuit if they were bored enough. Especially now that it’s been (allegedly) unlocked since ETH mining is no longer a thing.
If you bought an LHR video card, then what claims can you have against the video card manufacturer? The LHR limitation did not affect gaming performance, and the claims do not apply to commercial activities on video cards for home use.
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October 21, 2022, 01:40:55 PM |
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Is this confirmed now? I haven’t downloaded the latest drivers to try but I would if this is true. Granted I’m not mining now anyway, but I’m still curious. I wonder if there have been any lawsuits filed against Nvidia for this limiting of their hardware. It seems like some legal guru out there could probably put together a decent class action lawsuit if they were bored enough. Especially now that it’s been (allegedly) unlocked since ETH mining is no longer a thing.
If you bought an LHR video card, then what claims can you have against the video card manufacturer? The LHR limitation did not affect gaming performance, and the claims do not apply to commercial activities on video cards for home use. Also they did not affect rendering which in theory they have should,this means that Nvidia intentionally put some trigger in it software only to detect if mining activity were going on and once found to limit the power of the card.Based on this no guru on the world can open a dispute against them and win the case because as I said in gaming performance they were performing at 100% capacity and also in rendering at least the 3060 I tested myself at work making Sketchup and Archicad renders of less than 2 seconds.The lawsuit against mining would not work as mining is not recognized yet as legal activity in many parts of the world,some like China even ban it completely.
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Are we miners supposed to be jubilating ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ? Why now? Nvidia is very cruel to be honest, anyway I have a few LHR graphic cards and the latest driver removed the restriction but it doesn't matter anymore.
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Is this confirmed now? I haven’t downloaded the latest drivers to try but I would if this is true. Granted I’m not mining now anyway, but I’m still curious. I wonder if there have been any lawsuits filed against Nvidia for this limiting of their hardware. It seems like some legal guru out there could probably put together a decent class action lawsuit if they were bored enough. Especially now that it’s been (allegedly) unlocked since ETH mining is no longer a thing.
If you bought an LHR video card, then what claims can you have against the video card manufacturer? The LHR limitation did not affect gaming performance, and the claims do not apply to commercial activities on video cards for home use. Also they did not affect rendering which in theory they have should,this means that Nvidia intentionally put some trigger in it software only to detect if mining activity were going on and once found to limit the power of the card.Based on this no guru on the world can open a dispute against them and win the case because as I said in gaming performance they were performing at 100% capacity and also in rendering at least the 3060 I tested myself at work making Sketchup and Archicad renders of less than 2 seconds.The lawsuit against mining would not work as mining is not recognized yet as legal activity in many parts of the world,some like China even ban it completely. Is this true that Nvidia slowed down their older graphics card performance by giving driver update? https://www.quora.com/Is-this-true-that-Nvidia-slowed-down-their-older-graphics-card-performance-by-giving-driver-updateI remember a lot of discussions on this topic. Even for example, the old drivers for the GTX 1070 video card gave a larger hashrate on Ethereum than the new ones. And this is not a problem with increasing the DAG file.
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Is this true that Nvidia slowed down their older graphics card performance by giving driver update?
The gtx 1070ti has dropped from 31MHASH to 28 in ETHASH. Team black miner v1.71 cuda 11.8 build. The kernel is using more than 100 registers, and around 64 on older drivers, so I guess it is fixable with some code changes..
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