Small poll for BitcoinTalk lovers

[mk4]

Obviously not due to privacy concerns like Loyce said (lookup $5 wrench attacks). Also — I love Bitcointalk, but I don't need to be a walking advertisement for it lol; the same reason why I wouldn't normally wear a Reddit, Google, or Twitter merch. That's just me though.

[LoyceV]

developing a site that does not store users' home addresses for delivery would attract certain members

Then I'd have to trust the site to not keep logs. I don't like the "trust" part.

If you could come up with a system which was able to prove removal, and no data been extracted then I'd be very impressed, but as far as I'm aware it simply cannot be done.

That's impossible. You'll need to write the address on a box to ship it, and you can't possibly proof you didn't store the address somewhere.

- The customer (you) uses mailbox addresses or virtual addresses. Cause all countries have this kind of services.

I just checked: a post office box costs €329.12 for a year. And even then, there's someone at the post office who can make the link.

- To register the order, use encrypted form services, such as this one: https://blocksurvey.io/ I'm not saying I would use this one, it's just an idea. Had to investigate further (suggestions accepted).

Theymos came up with this: How to do private giveaways.

Obviously not due to privacy concerns like Loyce said (lookup $5 wrench attacks).

I was concerned about having to share personal data on the forum, but a cap, t-shirt or mug screaming "I'm a Bitcoin HODLer" makes you a real life target too.

[joker_josue]

- The customer (you) uses mailbox addresses or virtual addresses. Cause all countries have this kind of services.

I just checked: a post office box costs €329.12 for a year. And even then, there's someone at the post office who can make the link.

Don't they have a service, like delivery lockers, where you only pay when you use it?

I was concerned about having to share personal data on the forum, but a cap, t-shirt or mug screaming "I'm a Bitcoin HODLer" makes you a real life target too.

That's true. Nobody wants to walk down the street with a shirt saying "I'm a millionaire".


Maybe this wasn't one of my best ideas...
I will think of something else that will be pleasant for everyone.

[LoyceV]

Don't they have a service, like delivery lockers, where you only pay when you use it?

Nope. You could use a drop off location, but you'll need to use your real name (and show ID) to collect the package.

That's true. Nobody wants to walk down the street with a shirt saying "I'm a millionaire".

Many people are fine using a car that says it. Being a millionaire doesn't make you an easy target, they'll need to kidnap you and demand ransom and stuff. They can't just demand you transfer a million bucks to their bank account, because the paper trail would land them in jail before they can spend it.
With Bitcoin, a $5 wrench is all they need to take your money and never be found. And that's why I value my privacy much more when it comes to Bitcoin. And unlike the brand new Lambo, a t-shirt doesn't even mean you're rich. But I'd feel like a target anyway.

[348Judah]

I work with a printing company and merchandising companies, and I thought it would be interesting to create a product line with BitcoinTalk in mind

There's nothing bad in your ideaz just that many will have to go against it because of privacy as being mentioned earlier but come to think of it this way, anyone can easily get a bitcoin customized materials from the comfort if his location or made one on thier own interest than having a collection of people here altogether, things may not be well coordinated and many wouldn't prefer this as an idea, they can easily get one with much comfort individually if they wan, but you haveba good initiative actually, i also this more applicable when there's a need to reach out to people on free donation of bitcoin customized materials to the society.

[Shamm]

That's true. Nobody wants to walk down the street with a shirt saying "I'm a millionaire".

I think it will matter on where you are in, cause  honestly  in my country even though you are wearing that T-shirt says that I'm a millionaire while walking in the street and criminals or thief  saw you, then when they look at your appearance is not good looking then thief won't waste their time for you,  but if you have a gold necklace, gold bracket and diamond ring in your body then without further discussion you will be missing  and like what LoyceV said above they will kidnap you or worst they will kill you and get all your golds and diamond .

[joker_josue]

Don't they have a service, like delivery lockers, where you only pay when you use it?

Nope. You could use a drop off location, but you'll need to use your real name (and show ID) to collect the package.

Right, but that information was only between the end user and the locker company.

You can say this is linkable. What is truth. But then it would already be necessary - in this case I - to have access to information about this company.
But here comes the question that you don't know me. And I had to prove what I am. Anyway, not impossible, but complicated, I understand.



I'll think of an idea that might be more interesting. 

[Scripture]

If the security is concern, I will not buy it.
Better to sell something that is more worth it in the future, a physical token with a code on it might be a good one.
Beside I'm wondering how much will be the shipping cost just for a printed shirt or a mug, I think it's not worth it. This is not to discourage you OP if you are planning to have this, but try to look for other alternatives, I'm sure someone will still be willing to buy a merchandise with a real worth.

[joker_josue]

Beside I'm wondering how much will be the shipping cost just for a printed shirt or a mug, I think it's not worth it. This is not to discourage you OP if you are planning to have this, but try to look for other alternatives, I'm sure someone will still be willing to buy a merchandise with a real worth.

I didn't do all the math for all the scenarios.
But, for example, I was able to send a cap, for about +/-25€ to almost everyone (price of the item and postage). I don't think it's an unrealistic value.

But privacy concerns are high, which I understand, and that might raise some doubts about continuing the idea. I don't know.

[Findingnemo]

Yes, I am interested to show bitcoin in any form if I can especially I wear T shirts everyday and black theme most favourite so I would like to have one for me. As few mentioned it may be a concern for the privacy so I don't like to provide my real identity and details.

[Rockstarguy]

I work with a printing company and merchandising companies, and I thought it would be interesting to create a product line with BitcoinTalk in mind.

I will like something like an art write up with a frame that I can hang on the wall of my living room, it will serve as a decoration to the room.  I don't fancy a shirt or a cap because wearing a shirt and working on the street, people will think you have enough bitcoin and it is dangerous. Art write up in my room won't exposed me to strangers.

[joker_josue]

Art write up in my room won't exposed me to strangers.

What do you mean by written art? Was it a board with just letters, or something more elaborate but with a focus on the letters?

[_BlackStar]

Yes, I like your idea, I will buy a t-shirt, this is the very creative thing I ever heard. I know privacy is important, but I am still human and need wear something I like. I love bitcoin and all, including this forum, same as I love sports where I will love to buy the jersey.

So far I'm not a very privacy-concerned user, it has made me consciously submit my KYC documents on a centralized exchange. But I also don't want to be a running ad that could compromise my security by criminals. You don't have to let people know that you're a bitcoin lover through a message on the shirt you're wearing, but have the shirt as a collection that might well hang on your personal wall.

I'd love to have this collection in my bedroom, but I'm not going to order it online.
IMO, good to remind me to hold bitcoin as much as possible.

[aoluain]

I'd only be interested in collectible items which could be displayed privately at home rather than something I'd wear or anything like that, simply due to the privacy concerns already mentioned.

Obviously, you could frame a T-shirt if you wanted too, but it's not something I'd particularly be interested in doing. Judging by the interest of the rewards we had for an April fools, condoms were a popular choice .

Me too, as are many others! I would be interested in a collectible item and with a unique
design rather than something simple like a BTC symbol and HODL or something.

So yes I would be interested but not a mug or cap or tee.

Obviously not due to privacy concerns like Loyce said (lookup $5 wrench attacks). Also — I love Bitcointalk, but I don't need to be a walking advertisement for it lol; the same reason why I wouldn't normally wear a Reddit, Google, or Twitter merch. That's just me though.

Yea, same as that, I dont want to be going around advertising the fact that I am into
Bitcoin although realistically I wouldnt expect to get bashed over the head and mugged,
I mean I carry a smartphone and a wallet, anyone could be mugged for either of those.

[Mate2237]

I work with a printing company and merchandising companies, and I thought it would be interesting to create a product line with BitcoinTalk in mind.

But before I go any further, I would like to know what the opinion of the community was.

The first idea I had was something related to user ranking. But this or other possibilities are still being analyzed.

What do you think of the idea?
I appreciate your feedback.

OP your thread is not clear for people to comment, I was also confused at first then critically looked into the write up and thought of it for about some seconds before gotten the message.

It is a nice idea for creating a product lining on the companies you work, but before presenting them to the forum (bitcointalk) you would have given a sample of the products, is it consumable goods or otherwise. And also remember this is a global issue so how can someone from other Countries can get their products.

[Pmalek]

What if the hat you have on your avatar could be real, at an acceptable price?

I can have that made in two local stores in my city and probably in a third one as well, although I am not 100% sure the 3rd one is still around. And I don't have to leave my address with someone over an online forum or a website that might be honest or go rogue one day. I am sure I would save a few dollars getting the merchandise done at my place of living without having to pay for the shipping costs as well. Nothing against you personally OP, just so that we are clear.

[joker_josue]

Me too, as are many others! I would be interested in a collectible item and with a unique
design rather than something simple like a BTC symbol and HODL or something.

So yes I would be interested but not a mug or cap or tee.

What kind of product would you find interesting?

[Ultegra134]

On the one hand, I'd like to have some kind of merchandise from the forum I spend so much time on, but on the other hand, there are a variety of reasons I wouldn't proceed to buy anything. As LoyceV already mentioned, a forum-related t-shirt would shout from a distance that you may own Bitcoin. Not only does this make you a target, but you'll also be flooded with questions regarding Bitcoin every time you're in company. I'm not suggesting that you'll get mugged in order to have your wallet wiped, but it may give the vibe that you're wealthy. Bitcoin here is often seen as exotic by people.

Although I'd like to have something small as a coffee mug for cold winter days, providing that it doesn't cost a fortune to purchase. The combination of small-scale production and high shipping costs throughout Europe may be unsettling, and I wouldn't want a simple mug with a Bitcointalk logo to cost me over $25.

[Smartvirus]

If you're doing it just for fun then sure. If you're doing it to try to make a profit then you'll probably not get much or any custom.

I know there are people that invite their friends and family to this forum but I think those are few and far between and people probably don't want it to be a talking point among others or risk their privacy.

Guilty as charged and I suppose the one who introduced me would also take my guity plea, lol... In the end, your at privacy risk putting out anything with bitcoin on it to the world which would raise questions in the company and for the customers. The forum and bitcoin would stand to benefit and that would be you @OP not being selfish to try to let people in and having nothing to benefit from it but, your sure to gain some attentions as to what is and why have it. Better still, not have the attention of the wrong people in the masses.

[Poker Player]

In principle, I am not interested either for the reasons given. I don't want people to know that I have Bitcoin.

I just checked: a post office box costs €329.12 for a year. And even then, there's someone at the post office who can make the link.

Although I do have a PO box and at some point I might use it to buy some forum collectibles. Obviously, I wouldn't put my real name, preserving some privacy, but the person sending it to me would know what area I live in and my zip code.

It would have to be something very worthwhile to do so.