Give new topics some time, you will learn a lot

[Z390]

Newbies, do not make any hasty decision from fresh topics on this forum, wait till members reply that topic first because some people create topics like they know it all but if you give it time you will get valid answers from a combination of comments from other members,  reading through comments alone will enlighten you, unless you don't like reading meaning you shouldn't be on here in the first place.

[rat03gopoh]

If you know something relevant, there's no need to wait for time to reply. Don't limit yourself to things that don't really matter. Even on this board, I expect the answers to the basic questions to come from (real) newbies. The role of the high-rank members only pays attention to, refines or corrects if the answers isn't quite right.

Newbies also need space to show themselves.

[Lafu]

Mostly Newbies , have a lot of questions first and dont know the Forum really.
Using the search function would be maybe solve 50% of the things they want to know.
On the other hand , there is no need to wait for replying on a post or a topic for a Newbie if they have questions , thats why the community is here.

unless you don't like reading meaning you shouldn't be on here in the first place.

If you dont like reading i agree fully on that with you , you will be have a hard time here to find answers to your questions.

[NeuroticFish]

Newbies also need space to show themselves.

My rank is Legendary, and I still don't make many topics, I rather answer to questions.
But many prefer to create topics. I know, this also means they have better chances to get merit (and rank up, if it's the case).

While people are different and some want to show their knowledge, I've seen newbies making topics and teaching about things they don't know well enough and making plenty of mistakes, I have to say: one should think it over before making a topic, one should ask around and clear up things he doesn't know before trying to teach about things they also don't know. If this would happen, I would agree 100% that newbies should be even encouraged to create topics.

But as it is now, I agree with OP: give it time, learn first. Instead of trying to teach, try first to learn. That can also mean new topics and valid questions also get merited.

[Dunamisx]

Newbies, do not make any hasty decision from fresh topics on this forum, wait till members reply that topic first because some people create topics like they know it all but if you give it time you will get valid answers from a combination of comments from other members,  reading through comments alone will enlighten you, unless you don't like reading meaning you shouldn't be on here in the first place.

Don't sound too nervous to discourage newbies from creating a topic as long as it has not been discussed before and how do they know this, by making the use of the search function on the forum menu to check, newbies can create a topic as creating a topic does not mean asking a question alone, but one can as well give an information in some specific areas that needed attention and newbies were not excluded in this, but i must make this clear that newbies have no mandate to creating a topic if there's no need for that, it not a must except you find the need to do so.

[The Cryptovator]

If a user spends a few days on the forum they can learn a lot of things if they intend to learn really. I have seen a lot of unnecessary threads from newbies where they could get it by using the search button. Whether they are lazy or don't know about the search function. That's why it's preferable to spend time reading threads here to learn.

[RapTarX]

These days there are a lot of newbies do this, newbies follow this, guidelines compilation, this compilation, that compilation. Really tired of watching these shits on this board which supposed to be a very much helpful board.

[rat03gopoh]

Newbies also need space to show themselves.

My rank is Legendary, and I still don't make many topics, I rather answer to questions.
But many prefer to create topics. I know, this also means they have better chances to get merit (and rank up, if it's the case).

I mean, when a newbie is faced with another user's fresh topic (no reply yet), they can also reply right away without hesitation if they know something.
Maybe my interpretation is wrong, The OP's point I understood on "make any hasty decision from fresh topics on this forum" is about responding to another user's new topic, which OP then says:

reading through comments alone will enlighten you.

This means preventing newbies from interacting at all.

[erep]

If a user spends a few days on the forum they can learn a lot of things if they intend to learn really. I have seen a lot of unnecessary threads from newbies where they could get it by using the search button. Whether they are lazy or don't know about the search function. That's why it's preferable to spend time reading threads here to learn.

Many beginners don't know the search feature so they just check briefly on the topic they want, but if they don't find it on the main page then the decision is to create a new topic regardless of repeating topics or not. Actually beginners can find sources of knowledge on forums by combining searches on google (site:bitcointalk.org word) or more effectively using ninjastic.space

[Mr.right85]

Many times, you find beginners just making topics just for the sake of having something been put out for people to respond to. To them, its one way to sell there name on the forum and possibly get some merits. Merits seems to be attached more with thread creations but I take it to be a 50:50 chances. Especially when you create some low value posts and contents that don't address some issue or raise major concerns.

Comments on posts have got some real values too. You guys have got to give it a chance too. If your not acquinted with the topic of discussion, it would even serve you more to just read and not respond. It's a learning field out here and technically, your participating, your gathering the Knowledge you would need to answer some other beginner in no distant time because sooner than later, they do come around, making the same enquiry.

[Darker45]

I have noticed that most of the new threads in busy sections like Bitcoin discussion are created by low rank members, newbies even. If you head to that section right at this very moment, you will see what I'm saying. I don't know what this really means but perhaps low rank members like newbie, member, full member are feeling some kind of pressure perhaps to be more relevant on the forum, or to reach higher ranks faster, or to earn merit, or perhaps they simply are more curious or have a lot of questions?

I'm not saying this is a problem but sometimes it seems like some of these threads are hastily created, some even irrelevant or not worth discussing about, some have been discussed over and over again. It seems like low rank members are simply too eager to open a topic so that instead of reading more about it and possibly realize they didn't have to, they end up opening uninteresting threads. In which case, the most knowledgeable members here are probably even discouraged to chime in.

[cryptoaddictchie]

Newbies, do not make any hasty decision from fresh topics on this forum, wait till members reply that topic first because some people create topics like they know it all but if you give it time you will get valid answers from a combination of comments from other members,  reading through comments alone will enlighten you, unless you don't like reading meaning you shouldn't be on here in the first place.

Thats a good point. Most newbies keep commenting on new threads or topics that they are interested. But if they just scroll down a check others comments, they could learn many related ideas on that topic they are searching for. Usually by reading those posts they dont need to ask cause naturally it will come out. Anything pertaining to the topic they are curious or ought to know.

[m2017]

Newbies also need space to show themselves.

My rank is Legendary, and I still don't make many topics, I rather answer to questions.
But many prefer to create topics. I know, this also means they have better chances to get merit (and rank up, if it's the case).

I support your decision, there is no need to create a lot of topics (especially repetitive in meaning) and I think that you need to create topics only when it makes sense. For example, if similar topics have not yet been discussed, there are important issues and a discussion with the forum community is needed. Personally, I create topics when I have something to say and discuss (topics and issues that are important to me), and creating a topic is indispensable (if I didn't find discussion of this in other topics).

While people are different and some want to show their knowledge, I've seen newbies making topics and teaching about things they don't know well enough and making plenty of mistakes, I have to say: one should think it over before making a topic, one should ask around and clear up things he doesn't know before trying to teach about things they also don't know. If this would happen, I would agree 100% that newbies should be even encouraged to create topics.

Again, I am personally wary of teaching someone, especially in technical and financial matters in crypto areas (because I think that I have a lot to learn in these matters). Accordingly, I again support the opinion that beginners (and not only) should never try to teach others anything if they are not experts in this field. Otherwise, there is a high probability of harming advice than helping.

But as it is now, I agree with OP: give it time, learn first. Instead of trying to teach, try first to learn. That can also mean new topics and valid questions also get merited.

Truly so.

[lovesmayfamilis]

The advice is good, but, unfortunately, it will soon be hidden in history. OP, you forgot one important thing for newbies: they are impatient. They care about rank, and for this, they need to create a bunch of guides and open new topics to get a few merits. (sarcasm) 
There were times when Ratimov sincerely helped beginners get one or two merits. What did it result in? A wave of new topics began, no matter what the information, plagiarism, or manuals, just to catch the eye of the merit source. 
It doesn't work anymore, but there is a legend that you get merit faster if you start creating new topics. The legend works in the same way that you can get faster profits from alternative coins. People watch YouTube, and the date of creation does not matter to them. 
Today, too, newbies are creating a lot of the same themes. For example, fennic, Lordsilvabtc, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange, Crypt0Gore, et al. Their enthusiasm is breaking records. You can just see how long it will last.

[mk4]

Newbie doesn't automatically mean lack of knowledge. At the same time, Member doesn't automatically mean he/she knows crap. Not sure if you're stroking your ego here since you have a member rank lmao.

[NeuroticFish]

I mean, when a newbie is faced with another user's fresh topic (no reply yet), they can also reply right away without hesitation if they know something.
Maybe my interpretation is wrong, The OP's point I understood on "make any hasty decision from fresh topics on this forum" is about responding to another user's new topic, which OP then says:

I don't claim that my interpretation is perfect, I had some doubts myself in what OP meant. So I've kinda tried to complete where I can, not necessarily argue.

reading through comments alone will enlighten you.

This means preventing newbies from interacting at all.

Not necessarily. If one has a bit of patience, he may get to more complete topics he can discuss about.
Of course, you do have a point, if somebody waits too much, his answer may already be covered and no longer relevant. Plus, I think that nobody can argue that the posts from the first page are much more visible than the rest.
I guess that there's a subtle "sweet point" for each and every topic and each and every user. For newbies may be a tad delayed, but, as mk4 pointed out very good, it depends on user' knowledge, not "age" (or rank!).

It all comes down to people's personality and also his "urge to rank up". You and me got the days ranking up was easier. Also I see that you and me may have more patience than the average newbie.
However, it's a nice feeling that others think like me

[passwordnow]

Newbies, do not make any hasty decision from fresh topics on this forum, wait till members reply that topic first because some people create topics like they know it all but if you give it time you will get valid answers from a combination of comments from other members,  reading through comments alone will enlighten you, unless you don't like reading meaning you shouldn't be on here in the first place.

Although I can sense that you're fairly concerned for the newbies but basically, ranks don't mean all of it at all. There are newbies from the forum but could have been in crypto since 2013 or so. As long as they're replying according to the topic and they've got something to share that will be helpful for the original poster and for everyone, there's no need to wait for anyone to post first. We're in a community and this means more sharing of knowledge regardless of your rank or if there's something that you want to ask as an additional question to the original post.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Newbies, do not make any hasty decision from fresh topics on this forum,

When you are eager to learn, you are also eager to put that learning into practice. One can not possibly see a thread/new topic and skip without saying anything just because you are a newbie and perhaps you have something to contribute.

 

but if you give it time you will get valid answers from a combination of comments from other members, 

It still happens that despite being the first to contribute to a new thread as a newbie, it does not mean you can't learn from the other comments that will come after yours.

you shouldn't be on here in the first place.

When teaching children, there are some harsh words we mustn't use on them. Instead, we must encourage them, but you are not encouraging newbies. You are telling them not to talk even when they have something to say (definitely a baby learning how to talk must be allowed to talk too).

I asked about  hierarchy in the forum, but I was told a member of this forum could post and comment anywhere, as long as the reply button is there. IMO, newbies can exercise their thoughts freely any thread, while their comments are allowed to get the final judgement from the moderator of that board.

Their enthusiasm is breaking records. You can just see how long it will last.

There are lots of limiting factors in my environment that may truncate my performance and steady activeness here, but I hope my enthusiasm doesn't get killed by those factors.

Newbie doesn't automatically mean lack of knowledge. At the same time, Member doesn't automatically mean he/she knows crap.

You are absolutely correct,

[Despairo]

When teaching children, there are some harsh words we mustn't use on them. Instead, we must encourage them, but you are not encouraging newbies. You are telling them not to talk even when they have something to say (definitely a baby learning how to talk must be allowed to talk too).

This is internet space where you wouldn't know how old the person control the account, it could be a kid, young person, mature, and old person. Also you can't know if the account is an innocent person, good person, scammer, jerk, troll etc. This doesn't limit people to not give a harsh words, but only about death treat and NSFW are not allowed. If someone giving you harsh words, don't be a cry baby and force the user to stop, instead grow your skin thicker.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

Newbies, do not make any hasty decision from fresh topics on this forum, wait till members reply that topic first

I disagree with this your advise, it will sprouts inferiority and rank differential from members to post, either newbie or an established member can post or make the first reply as long as they carry the semantic weight of the rightful information needed, newbies are of categories, some are experienced while some aren't, but how do we make justice to that, this is where posting quality post comes in, the moderators can easily delete any newbie post trolling  or spamming the forum and leaves only the proper and serious minded ones undeleted.