Bitcoin and Prophecy

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

lot of false prophecies are unfortunate if someone does something like bought btc because they believed what the preacher said but after that the market went into a bearish condition as it is today.

Newbies are gullible, and some of the newbies that are not well exposed to cryptocurrency investment could take up the prophecy for themselves and purchase Bitcoin because of the pastor's prophecy. But after buying, they find out that the prophecy doesn't work in a week or months, then they run into conclusion about their losses.

[Wexnident]

Idk, isn't it simply coincidence? Or the person in talk is just a rather skilled person. If you prophesized a skilled person to win a tournament, does that automatically mean that the person won due to the "prophecy"? That's undermining everything else that actually happened. I wouldn't put past it that luck of sorts was included, but a person's prediction about him is in definitely no way involved. Sports bettors would be called Gods in the sports industry if so.

Religion is really outside of whatever decides the market movement, there's actually no point in relying on it or believing anything about it that indicates anything about crypto.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Religion is really outside of whatever decides the market movement, there's actually no point in relying on it or believing anything about it that indicates anything about crypto.

That's why I pointed it out. The Bitcoin price/market doesn't work by any form of prophecy. There's a saying that "what must be, must be". So in the crypto market, prophecy or no prophecy, what must be, must be. I created this thread for the information of some newbies or some overly religious types of people who will definitely bring in the crypto market in faith and prophecy. It's pointless to even say that Bitcoin was $19,000 yesterday. You prayed for it to grow to $22,000 in a few days. Coincidentally, it came to that price and it worked by prophecy. Even without the prophecy, if the price of Bitcoin was to be $22k in a few days, nothing would have stopped it.

[kryptqnick]

Prayers and prophecies are quite different things. Religion adapts to its times and finds ways of showing people that they need it. Especially institutionalized religion, like churches. So this program just shows that Bitcoin is popular enough for a church minister to mention it and to be something people like want to receive blessings for. I guess it depends on denomination and church, but in my country Orthodox churches quite often can be used for services like putting holy water on a car to protect it and stuff like that. So the whole idea of blessings for trading doesn't surprise me. But I do think it gives people false hope, and it can make people reckless, so it's not good that churches do stuff like that.

[Lucius]

To me, it is completely pointless to connect Bitcoin and religion the way some do, even though today everyone can found their own religion and preach in the way they want. It is true that some people may be misled in this way, so I think that people in such positions should refrain from anything that could be perceived as financial advice.

That's why I pointed it out. The Bitcoin price/market doesn't work by any form of prophecy.

Of course I agree with you, but there is a person on the forum who claims that with his actions he can influence the price of Bitcoin, and the whole thing is of course based on faith and belief that if he asks the creator to move the price to $22 000 he will listen to him because he is special (or so he thinks). I have never had any sympathy for religious fanatics of any kind, although I respect any religion that makes people better towards others and themselves.

[Kakmakr]

In the last days many false prophets will appear and lead many astray. “In the confusion, lying preachers will come forward and deceive a lot of people." - This is one prophecy that you can believe, because it is true. 

There are a lot of false prophets out there, that are just preaching for a salary and for the income.... they will put up a show to entertain people... so that they can become more popular and so that they can get more money.

Stay away from these false prophets.... and whatever they have to say about Bitcoin. 

[Obari]

I know lots of people are so religious they believe what their pastor tells them. I'm not saying prophecy doesn't work for those that believe in it, but all I'm saying is to everyone reading this, Bitcoin price movement doesn't work by prophecy or prayer.

Lastly, the man of God said, "Come to church on Sunday and receive your blessings from God. Are you doing business, self-employed, working, or trading Bitcoin? Come and be blessed".

Actually it seems Bitcoin price doesn't work by prophecy, but I'm certain there is nothing God can't do. Prayers answereth all things, this I'm certain and if prayers truly answereth all things, then prophecy might tend to affect the price of Bitcoin. Remember the holy bible said that "without prophecy my people are nothing" and prophecy doesn't work alone but along side with fate in the things unseen.

I really don't know of the place and source the prophecy and pastor was coming from but I've seen situations where the gender of an unborn child was changed to safe a woman of her marriage through prophecy. So if the gender of a full human can be changed, then there is nothing God can't do through prophecy from the right source. Don't judge spiritual things with canal eyes and minds.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

but there is a person on the forum who claims that with his actions he can influence the price of Bitcoin, and the whole thing is of course based on faith and belief that if he asks the creator to move the price to $22 000 he will listen to him because he is special (or so he thinks).

Let me get this, please. The "creator" he meant is what I am confused about. Does he mean being special to Satoshi or to God? (Which creator).

I respect any religion that makes people better towards others and themselves.

That's perfectly a nice thing though, but most of the time, some followers are gullible and get misled in the guid.

Actually it seems Bitcoin price doesn't work by prophecy,

It doesn't work at all. Ever since 2009 till date, nothing like that.

but I'm certain there is nothing God can't do. Prayers answereth all things,

Prayer answereth all things, like you said, but you also forgot that applying wisdom is the proper solution to a lot of things. It is just like you praying that God should not allow your wallet to get hacked, but you are exposing your private key publicly. Your wisdom should tell you to move your assets to another wallet if your private key gets exposed, instead of praying for your wallet not to get hacked.

Let me give you another scenario. If Bitcoin was to hit $100k by October 2024, and your pastor prayed for you and asked you to buy Bitcoin now and HODL it till 2024, and eventually we are in 2024 and Bitcoin spikes to $100,000, are you going to tell me that if your pastor had not prayed, Bitcoin would not have reached $100k? What if the price did not get to that? What would you also say then?

[Slow death]

I hope people know how to do research on their own and don't buy bitcoin just because the pastor told them to buy it or because they listened to the pastor's prophecy, honestly people seem to have short memory or an amnesia, until recently we had many cases of covid in which everyone was locked in the house and even the churches were closed so and people watched many people die, who saw any pastor perform a miracle to cure covid? no one saw it so why do people still believe it? the saddest part is that there are people who prefer to go hungry, without food, without electricity without water at home and take money to pay bills to go and give the pastor so that the pastor can work miracles in their lives, this is something insane, what what the pastor is doing can have serious consequences, because believers will take money to pay bills and go buy bitcoin and as they don't know that the price of bitcoin can take years or years to go up a lot, these people will go into despair

[Lucius]

Let me get this, please. The "creator" he meant is what I am confused about. Does he mean being special to Satoshi or to God? (Which creator).

I'm pretty sure the member I'm referring to is referring to god, not whoever created Bitcoin. Satoshi was an ordinary man with an idea that some other people had before him, and he, unlike them, managed to implement that idea into a work that managed to catch on. No matter what some people live in their fantasies, Bitcoin was invented by man, all the time it is powered by technology controlled by people, and god (whatever one calls him) surely has much more important work to do than dealing with technology and finance

[romero121]

In the last days many false prophets will appear and lead many astray. “In the confusion, lying preachers will come forward and deceive a lot of people." - This is one prophecy that you can believe, because it is true. 

There are a lot of false prophets out there, that are just preaching for a salary and for the income.... they will put up a show to entertain people... so that they can become more popular and so that they can get more money.

Stay away from these false prophets.... and whatever they have to say about Bitcoin. 

More false prophets come-up with new explanation. These days preachers have begun to make explanations without analysing the true meaning on the religious book. Recently in a religious group a preacher requested help to pay his car insurance. His followers were poor people and what he mentioned, what you do to the preacher will give you good return. This will surely make those poor people do the best of their ability to the preacher.

As in the above quote, preaching about the god have turned to be money making. This have made more people turn to be preachers, who doesn't have any base about the religion.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

and god (whatever one calls him) surely has much more important work to do than dealing with technology and finance

That's the point. People must not be deceived by the prophecy thing, especially when it concerns the crypto market. It's pointless to even think about it. If the so-said prophecy must work for Bitcoin, then there are lots of prophets. One can prophecy for Bitcoin to be $17k today so that their followers can buy, after which they make another prophecy for the price to go to $25k so the followers can as well sell. LoL 😂

[gantez]

Lastly, the man of God said, "Come to church on Sunday and receive your blessings from God. Are you doing business, self-employed, working, or trading Bitcoin? Come and be blessed".

Like you said lastly and lastly it was where the pastor wanted to land his prophecy to bring more passengers to his vehicle of deceiving people. The pastor is not the only one to do that. People will keep to get deceived because they are looking further than what reality is and reality is to learn, get the knowledge of bitcoin, blockchain or trading the bitcoin or others not to rely on prophecy for bitcoin price changing because of you. This will be another wonder of our world, not possible.. What is possible is to learn.

[meser#]

I'm a muslim and i've seen many samples like that from our religious scholars. It's like a tradition for decades it doesn't matter which religion. Every religion leader, scholar etc gave speeches about new technological improvements. Some of them might be logical but most of them based on their nonsense opinions. For me if its logical its fine for me. Because first verse of Quran is "read" not "listen or follow your religious leader or scholar" The God gave us brain for to use it not for renting some religious persons.

[davis196]

Is this pastor from a Christian sect or something? Maybe he's a protestant, metodist or baptist pastor.
Preaching and praying about making more money seems weird to me. Jesus Christ was against the traders in the temple. How would a true Christian pastor preach about trading and making profits? The relations between religion and trading ware antagonistic for centuries.
Thinking that prayers would improve your financial situation seems very kinda dumb and superstitious. The only thing that could potentially improve your financial situation is hard work.

[CageMabok]

Actually, based on my understanding, to some believers they do think that investment is like gambling. I came across with a colleague way back 4 years ago when Bitcoin and other cryptos were also at its peak of popularity, before its downfall.

It's just an assumption for some people who think so. While I don't think of it that way because investing is a good job to do for anyone who has a personal desire. Because if you and some of the people you mean think that investment is like gambling, then anything related to investing with the aim of making a profit, you must consider it as gambling.
That shouldn't be the case, because investments can't only be run on Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, but there are so many ways you can start investing as long as it's better for you and everyone else.

[yazher]

I don't know about church prophecy about bitcoin and whatnot, however, we have seen already specially those early birds becoming rich and millionaires because of their bitcoin investment.

So I guess we don't need to believed in those kind of prophecy, or if we can call it prophecy already because we have seen that there is indeed a cycle and every 4 years there is a bull run that will make money for everyone.

Rather it's just some mere speculations where it has a higher chance of happening based on the past history chart of the bitcoins price. They dragging their cult for some kind of recognition but in reality, this kind of scenario will likely happen because of the bitcoin halvings.

People should know how the history of the bitcoin price or just educate themselves to avoid such kinds of scams nowadays because these guys have always come up with a new strategy and they will not cease doing these kinds of strange gigs as long as they can get money from it.

[Dexter1990]

Why do people listen to prophecies? I don’t understand. It’s just worth delving into the study and analyzing the market yourself rather than believing in grandma’s fairy tales.

[uneng]

Actually The Bible and the prophecies also talk about false prophets who use the name of God, his word and the name of his Son to deceive people on this world for personal interests and gains. That is the case of most religious authorities nowadays, so you have to be careful on who you believe, especially when they connect faith and attending to their churches to financial success and independence.

There is nothing wrong in earning money, but faith goes much beyond this matter and can't be thought as a magical tool to fill someone's pocket by preachers that look more mystical than religious men, to say the truth.

[EarnOnVictor]

Last Saturday, I was listening to the radio when I came across a Christian ministry program that piqued my interest. I was enjoying the ministration of the man of God for about 15 minutes before the program was coming to an end, and then when the pastor began to pray and share some testimonies. I feared when he made mention of how he had prayed for a brother who traded Bitcoin and became financially free; how people's businesses were doing great; how individuals he prayed for were excelling in their business; and some were getting new jobs. I was jolted into shock when he said, "I have prayed for people that trade Bitcoin, and they are making  profit." I don't really know what he meant by that. He was either referring to Forex trading or something else I don't know, but if it is a Bitcoin investment, I am certain enough to believe that prayer and prophecy don't work for Bitcoin.

I know lots of people are so religious they believe what their pastor tells them. I'm not saying prophecy doesn't work for those that believe in it, but all I'm saying is to everyone reading this, Bitcoin price movement doesn't work by prophecy or prayer.

Lastly, the man of God said, "Come to church on Sunday and receive your blessings from God. Are you doing business, self-employed, working, or trading Bitcoin? Come and be blessed".
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I can't go to church and believe a prophecy that Bitcoin's price will increase by a certain amount, and this is not what any one should do.

Nice narration and conclusion by you, but I see things different here. As much as I don't believe in any prophecy when it comes to gambling and investments, yet, it is rather good news to hear about BTC from a religious leader. This is a prove of the increasing popularity of the coin and I love that. With time, it is the popularity and mentions that would provoke people into adopting it more, especially when their leaders and role models adopt it. It is a matter of time before more members of the man's church would join because of him.