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Hi guys! I've been playing Crazy time live game from Evolution provider for over a year now and I've never been able to win anything significant. Lost a huge amount of money in this game. I often bet on bonus sectors, but almost always only the standard multipliers fall out. Sometimes I feel like the game is playing against me. I read this article https://www.ltccasino.com/cryptocasino/is-crazy-time-scam/ today and it only increased my doubts and distrust of this popular game. What do you think about it? Please share your knowledge and gaming experience regarding this game.
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October 16, 2022, 01:02:57 PM |
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That could be an alarming and having that provider on a site can make a panic, if you have proof about this claim then maybe it's good raise this concern especially with the site that you are playing. May we know which site you are playing with? I'm actually not familiar with this game but losing for over a year without any significant win after spending more money is already a red flag for you, maybe it's really not your game or possible that game provider works with the site to manipulate the result and reduce the volume of the winners hard to tell actually.
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October 16, 2022, 01:33:32 PM |
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These games are often audited and are reviewed too for anomalies and the likes, so most probably you just experienced an extremely bad streak in the game. It's not really surprising that this happened to you given how random the game is even if it's a live game. Also, Evolution is known on the gambling industry as one of the top live games provider, and so far similar doubts and thoughts have been raised over the years against them but none had succeeded in proving their suspicions.
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October 16, 2022, 01:37:35 PM |
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That could be an alarming and having that provider on a site can make a panic, if you have proof about this claim then maybe it's good raise this concern especially with the site that you are playing. May we know which site you are playing with? I'm actually not familiar with this game but losing for over a year without any significant win after spending more money is already a red flag for you, maybe it's really not your game or possible that game provider works with the site to manipulate the result and reduce the volume of the winners hard to tell actually.
On the video provided they were accusing that the wheel has a Motor, Magnets, or Brakes. We've seen enough accusation even the Wheel of Fortune experienced some accusations. This is not very different to the roulette we play where the two green 0 and 00 makes the odd in favor to the house. I can see Crazy time wheel has more of these.
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October 16, 2022, 02:03:32 PM |
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Please share your knowledge and gaming experience regarding this game.
You cannot punish casino sites that provide Crazy Time games, cheats, and so on, many types of games you can play, if you have doubts about the type of game Crazy Time, you know that every game is based on luck, it's common in every game whether it's slot games, dice, poker and so on. Crazy Time game win conditions are based on the spin wheel, one spin can generate a random multiplier, whether it's Cash Hunt, Pachinko, Coin Flip, or Crazy Time, even though the Crazy Time game looks easy by placing numbers or bonuses, it is not necessarily the round that can decide that you get the prize or win. For me, Crazy Time is not a game that can make a lot of profit, but a game of live entertainment, regardless of whether someone behind the scenes is holding the spin or not, the fact from my experience is that very little I can get a bonus and make a win, if you consider the many other games you can try to multiply memories, for example sports betting such as football etc.
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This is one of my favorite live game. I agree that there is the possibility of the game being rigged, though maybe it is not. It is easy to say that it is rigged, however, the accusation is just mere assumption if no hard evidence is presented. Until now I see no proof being shown. Since this is one of my favorite live games, I play a lot of it, from my experience, my win-lose ratio is almost even. Maybe your bets are much riskier than what I am commonly doing. Above all, it's a game of chance, if you're out of luck, you'll get wrecked if you happen to play much that time.
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October 16, 2022, 02:18:50 PM |
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Based on the link you provided, it looks like higher odds bring a lower chance of winning on a turn-by-turn basis as the house edge remains fairly stable throughout all the game types.
Provably fair games were made as a way to escape this sort of thing though, perhaps you should find one of those or something else that's less likely to be rigged if you have doubts on the wheel.
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October 16, 2022, 03:34:56 PM |
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Crazy time has 8 bet choices and multiplier is purely random so it’s very hard to win a huge jackpot here because the roulette is consist of more 1 and 2 while you are only betting on bonuses which is only the small portion of the roulette choices. Think about the odds of your winning before you accused them just you are not hitting a huge jackpot. There still some time that they giving away huge multiplier on there bonuses but of course this is only rare because the chance of having that is very low. Crazy time is pure luck with high volatility. You should bet on 50:50 type of games if you want to win more often.
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You tried for playing the game for over a year without winning anything significant, I personally play a game for one week, and if in those days, I don't win something significant, I quit and look for another game to play. I've played crazy times once and lost my money, and I also do not see what so special about the game that you got hooked to it for over a year.
I personally want to believe the game is not rigged, but rather, the settings, I believe makes some games harder to win than others, maybe this games setting is the reason for the ill luck most players encounter with it.
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October 16, 2022, 03:56:42 PM |
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You have an opposite strategy to mine that’s why you lose too often. I only bet on the small number and wait only to have a good multiplier to have a massive profit. This game is very risky if you are betting on tiles that has a low chance of winning like bonuses. Sometimes bonuses only gives small multiplier so it’s not worthy the risk if you want to play this game in your advantage. You need to be very lucky to hit bonus with high multiplier and it will take so many spin to do that.
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I feel that article is out to call out how rigged it is. I saw the video, and I remember my personal experience with it, making it even more problematic. It's just like the monopoly game, and I feel it's rigged too. It's just really hard to win, but maybe there are times that it's fair and always not honest or something. If I were to play it now, it would be just for entertainment, and the budget I would have there would vary.
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October 16, 2022, 04:39:38 PM |
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I would have said that most of this was bullshit, but there are more than enough video evidence that there are something being done to these machines/games to put the odds in favor of the service provider. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) They do not even have to do it all the time.... the odds are in their favor, but I think they nudge the balls and games to make more money than what the house edge should be. (like after a lot of big wins) ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif)
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you need to know that the ltccasino.com casino who wrote this article has already had a scam allegation on this forum and they have already complained about gambling providers but didn't show evidence until a representative of a certain gambling provider came along deny everything ltccasino.com was accusing them, I don't mean to say that there can't be game errors or some other problem, I'm just saying you can't just believe what ltccasino.com is saying, do more research , try talking to someone who is directly connected to the game provider to clear your doubts, because I don't believe that casinos would put broken games to steal people's money Also, Evolution is known on the gambling industry as one of the top live games provider, and so far similar doubts and thoughts have been raised over the years against them but none had succeeded in proving their suspicions.
I haven't seen concrete proof of any manipulation either, I've only seen accusations from ltccasino.com but I haven't seen concrete proof. the right thing would be for people to investigate a lot and post concrete proof
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Hi guys! I've been playing Crazy time live game from Evolution provider for over a year now and I've never been able to win anything significant. Lost a huge amount of money in this game. I often bet on bonus sectors, but almost always only the standard multipliers fall out. Sometimes I feel like the game is playing against me. I read this article https://www.ltccasino.com/cryptocasino/is-crazy-time-scam/ today and it only increased my doubts and distrust of this popular game. What do you think about it? Please share your knowledge and gaming experience regarding this game. Those videos in your link are really surprising, you should post the links of the best ones here with the timestamp of the weirdest sequences, it would entertain posters at least, and certainly shock many of them. But I'm not really convinced that the game is rigged at the end, mainly because the RTP is already larger than classic casino games actually. So they don't need to take risk of being sent to jail, to earn money with it. If you've lost more money in this game than in other live games, it could be because of the difference of RTP. Besides that the author gives an explanation at the end of the article about why players won't get the same winnings as a slot game with a similar RTP. If you’ve been playing mostly Crazy Time up to this point, you might want to consider other casino games, such as Bitcoin slots. Most of them have a higher RTP compared to Crazy Time, while payouts can easily exceed the bet thousands of times. What’s more, players at Crazy Time usually make bigger bets and spread them across multiple areas. But only one segment wins in each round, and bets placed on all other segments lose, which must be taken into account when calculating the final multiplier. On the other hand, in slots, you place one bet per round and can make dozens of spins per minute. This allows you to bet smaller and play more rounds, which ultimately increases the odds of getting a big multiplier. https://www.ltccasino.com/cryptocasino/is-crazy-time-scam/
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October 16, 2022, 06:33:26 PM |
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I used to think that way initially and I changed my mind after winning decent amounts from that game later on. You are experiencing gamblers fallacy op to put it bluntly. All rolls are independent of each other if you think about it.
So many people tried to prove the fact that this game was rigged over time, but they all failed since they could never provide 100% valid proof to verify their claims.
Also, this game has a high house edge and bonus sectors have higher odds when compared to the standard multipliers which basically explains your huge losses op.
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October 16, 2022, 07:02:40 PM |
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Evolution gaming is lisenced live casino games operator and this provider is audited by regulators. The live casino game has around 4% house edge but I also doubt the game itself is 100% random, probably controlled by AI on backend since wheel is controlled by motor unlike by game hosts,IMHO. For finding real RTP, you have to check millions of bets which looks impossible.
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October 16, 2022, 07:24:17 PM |
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I used to think that way initially and I changed my mind after winning decent amounts from that game later on. You are experiencing gamblers fallacy op to put it bluntly. All rolls are independent of each other if you think about it.
So many people tried to prove the fact that this game was rigged over time, but they all failed since they could never provide 100% valid proof to verify their claims.
Also, this game has a high house edge and bonus sectors have higher odds when compared to the standard multipliers which basically explains your huge losses op.
This seems to be the most likely explanation, the higher the house edge the more difficult is to win anything and it even becomes more difficult to win any amount of money which we could be considered significant, the only way to prove that somehow the games were rigged is if the OP could collect his whole betting history and that it was big enough to make different statistical analysis which showed that his results are way out of what it could be expected from the game given the odds provided.
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October 16, 2022, 07:25:47 PM |
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I used to think that way initially and I changed my mind after winning decent amounts from that game later on. You are experiencing gamblers fallacy op to put it bluntly. All rolls are independent of each other if you think about it.
So many people tried to prove the fact that this game was rigged over time, but they all failed since they could never provide 100% valid proof to verify their claims.
Also, this game has a high house edge and bonus sectors have higher odds when compared to the standard multipliers which basically explains your huge losses op.
I am more on the side that this game has high HE, rather than rigged. Thinking that this is rigged is indeed hard to justify. And so it is pointless to assert this doubt. If you are not happy with this game, better find another game that will suit your desires. There may be articles stating their doubts also but how valid is their allegation because they only presented possible manipulation in the game but not valid proofs that they are indeed rigging the game. We can't say for sure about this rigging aspect, better play another game if you feel cheated on this game.
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That could be an alarming and having that provider on a site can make a panic, if you have proof about this claim then maybe it's good raise this concern especially with the site that you are playing. May we know which site you are playing with? I'm actually not familiar with this game but losing for over a year without any significant win after spending more money is already a red flag for you, maybe it's really not your game or possible that game provider works with the site to manipulate the result and reduce the volume of the winners hard to tell actually.
The link actually have the possible proof of the said rigging. Though I do not know if it will have weight in the investigation since as far as I know authorities often do audits and inspections of the machine for possible rigging devices. If the authority has found something then we can possibly read news about it. So far there is none except for some allegation of a private individual. Evolution gaming is lisenced live casino games operator and this provider is audited by regulators. The live casino game has around 4% house edge but I also doubt the game itself is 100% random, probably controlled by AI on backend since wheel is controlled by motor unlike by game hosts,IMHO. For finding real RTP, you have to check millions of bets which looks impossible.
True but we cannot remove the fact of possible corruption within the ranks of inspectors. I read the link article and watched the video and at the end, it is all allegation and assumption since the line used by the author has this "possibility" stuff.
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October 16, 2022, 09:34:00 PM |
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I used to think that way initially and I changed my mind after winning decent amounts from that game later on. You are experiencing gamblers fallacy op to put it bluntly. All rolls are independent of each other if you think about it.
So many people tried to prove the fact that this game was rigged over time, but they all failed since they could never provide 100% valid proof to verify their claims.
Also, this game has a high house edge and bonus sectors have higher odds when compared to the standard multipliers which basically explains your huge losses op.
I am more on the side that this game has high HE, rather than rigged. Thinking that this is rigged is indeed hard to justify. And so it is pointless to assert this doubt. If you are not happy with this game, better find another game that will suit your desires. There may be articles stating their doubts also but how valid is their allegation because they only presented possible manipulation in the game but not valid proofs that they are indeed rigging the game. We can't say for sure about this rigging aspect, better play another game if you feel cheated on this game. Same thoughts, maybe it was setup so that players has a high chance of not winning and that some of us my find it rigged or something. But if there are noises in this game, for sure it will be under the microscope and being investigate by the appropriate bodies. If they found out that they indeed rigged or could be manipulated, they will be removed immediately. So the reputation of Evolution is on the line here, and I doubt that they will do something that will ruin their company as a provider.
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