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October 27, 2022, 10:19:02 AM
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Ring rust, everyone has to go to this. It's just a matter on how boxers are going to shake it off. And most likely, when Casimero's experience, he might likely start slow in this fight but eventually find his rhythm and this could end up to be a very good fight to watch as this could be war in his first fight at 122 lbs.

Nah, Casimero understands that a win here is his ticket for the next big fight, he was off for a while but he is still hungry for a win since he did not actually lose in a fight, he just got stripped with his belt which I believe he regretted his mistake. His comeback fight is something we should not miss to see if that fire in him is still there as he needed that to have a chance to face Inoue in the future.

He needed that boost to make his name on this new division, a win will be the ticket for him to bring the hype back under his name, he was a former champ from the last division he fight with, returning inside the ring with new challenges and with that mentality that you really didn't lose a fight but due to not maintaining your weight you got strip, I'm sure he will be in a mission in winning this fight.

He will use this opportunity to make a noise for his name and attract handlers and promoters to bring him good money to fight under this new division.

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October 27, 2022, 11:18:57 AM
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Ring rust, everyone has to go to this. It's just a matter on how boxers are going to shake it off. And most likely, when Casimero's experience, he might likely start slow in this fight but eventually find his rhythm and this could end up to be a very good fight to watch as this could be war in his first fight at 122 lbs.

Nah, Casimero understands that a win here is his ticket for the next big fight, he was off for a while but he is still hungry for a win since he did not actually lose in a fight, he just got stripped with his belt which I believe he regretted his mistake. His comeback fight is something we should not miss to see if that fire in him is still there as he needed that to have a chance to face Inoue in the future.

I'm not saying that he is not hungry or what, but he has been out in the ring for sometime and I will say that he wanted to stay active and force himself to fight this year even if it is close to the end of the year. It's because generally boxers doesn't want to have ring rust, so it's understandable on his part to fight late.

Of course, he knows that this is very important to him, so if ever he experience some ring rust, he just have to overcome and shake it because he can't afford to lose this one in his comeback fight in a new division. And maybe his target is still Inoue specially Naoya wanted to go up after his fight against Butler.
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October 27, 2022, 05:03:29 PM
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Casimero is still too young for retirement, though I agree that Casimero has no room for a loss in this match, or else he will be another piece to the Akaho Collection of beaten Filipino boxers.

But if ever Casimero loses this match, it just shows that likely, he doesn't have the skills and power to compete at the top rankings or a title match. Casimero is 32 years old and if he will experience continuous loss, it will just put him below rankings or the worst not even considered to be assigned now on any match. It's hard to climb on rank and that will take time as we are not even sure if Casimero can average 1-2 fights per year at the point of his career.

Anyways, let's not talk about the possibility of Casimero losing here because the winning probability for him is decent. However, upset does happen but unlikely not in this match. If this really ends up with Casimero losing this match, I should also say that he needs to hang his gloves now.

Speaking of Casimero if he'll get defeated this time although it's very unlikely to happen, just like you said. But if in case that happens, I don't think he have a future in this industry anymore because where will he go next? Bantamweight doesn't fight him as he'll be having the same issues again and in the upper weight class, he can't give some troubles, so it's much better for him to retire. But just like we said, it's very unlikely, especially now that he himself is looking to bounce back to redeem his name again.


He needed to win if he wanted to continue his journey from this sport. If he loses this one, it might be the end of his career. Maybe he will just continue working with his YouTube channel and try to make money from it.

But on a serious note, Casimero should win this with a great passion to make sure that he will get more money fight and also a chance to chase for the title match, still far though but for sure it's also part of the plan for him to regain his popularity and make more money from this sport.


Not just an ordinary win, what he needed is a stoppage or at least we will see that he is not having some struggles fighting Ryo Akaho because he can't possibly defeat the champions in super-bantam if he is already struggling to defeat Akaho. Nevertheless, I still believe that he can redeem his name this time, he knew for sure what he have to do.

Casimero's YouTube channel won't be that profitable anymore if he will get defeated and retire in the boxing industry because majority of his viewers in that channel just want to what's he up to and to get some informations on his whereabouts that is connected in boxing. So, retiring means that goodbye viewers too.

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October 28, 2022, 04:57:54 PM
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is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now? well I also voted for him and i love it seeing another Filipino Boxer to take step forward to what Manny Pacquiao had already attain.
but the problem here is that about Casimero having no activities these past months , maybe he needs more exposure and open training for more popularization , this will add confidence for Him to win this fight.

That is for sure, did you expect the opposite thing? Grin kidding!

That is expected because Casimero is more famous than Akaho, I bet this is the first time we've heard Akaho's name in this forum and if you look on Akaho's history and credentials, you'll know that he is more of a local boxer rather than international type. Both of them wanted this fight, Casimero is fighting to redeem his name after all he experienced recently and Akaho is fighting to get the exposure he needed as Casimero will be his key to have a profitable fights in the future.

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October 28, 2022, 07:00:34 PM
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is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now? well I also voted for him and i love it seeing another Filipino Boxer to take step forward to what Manny Pacquiao had already attain.
but the problem here is that about Casimero having no activities these past months , maybe he needs more exposure and open training for more popularization , this will add confidence for Him to win this fight.

That is for sure, did you expect the opposite thing? Grin kidding!

That is expected because Casimero is more famous than Akaho, I bet this is the first time we've heard Akaho's name in this forum and if you look on Akaho's history and credentials, you'll know that he is more of a local boxer rather than international type. Both of them wanted this fight, Casimero is fighting to redeem his name after all he experienced recently and Akaho is fighting to get the exposure he needed as Casimero will be his key to have a profitable fights in the future.

Good point, yes both boxers will benefit winning against each other, for Casimero, Akaho might present a tough fight for him in his new division. And in paper, Akaho has a good record specialy against Pinoys.

On the other hand, Akaho is trying to break into the spot, maybe just enough for him to be a legitimate contender or could have been given a chance to crack at the belt if he win against Casimero.

But in the end we wanted for Casimero to win this fight so that he will give noticed to this new division that someone wanted to enter. And then hopefully we will still see him vs Inoue in the future.

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October 28, 2022, 08:01:19 PM
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is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now?

The landslide vote on the poll it's not just because of the popularity. It's clear that Casimero's credential is far better than Akaho. Casimero is also a former WBO Bantamweight Champion and if only he takes care of everything, he might be the one facing the Japanese Top Bantamweight Naoya Inoue in the unification bout and not Paul Butler.

Moving forward, the age factor might also play a big role for Akaho. He is now entering the considered veteran age for boxers and even though he's currently on the winning hot streak, there's no considered big name on those who defeated.

Casimero has no choice but to win here if he still wants to climb again at the rankings. However, if ever the situation is being favored to him on his way up, I doubt he can match against the current champions at the super bantamweight.

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October 29, 2022, 02:37:10 PM
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is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now? well I also voted for him and i love it seeing another Filipino Boxer to take step forward to what Manny Pacquiao had already attain.
but the problem here is that about Casimero having no activities these past months , maybe he needs more exposure and open training for more popularization , this will add confidence for Him to win this fight.

That is for sure, did you expect the opposite thing? Grin kidding!

That is expected because Casimero is more famous than Akaho, I bet this is the first time we've heard Akaho's name in this forum and if you look on Akaho's history and credentials, you'll know that he is more of a local boxer rather than international type. Both of them wanted this fight, Casimero is fighting to redeem his name after all he experienced recently and Akaho is fighting to get the exposure he needed as Casimero will be his key to have a profitable fights in the future.

Good point, yes both boxers will benefit winning against each other, for Casimero, Akaho might present a tough fight for him in his new division. And in paper, Akaho has a good record specialy against Pinoys.

On the other hand, Akaho is trying to break into the spot, maybe just enough for him to be a legitimate contender or could have been given a chance to crack at the belt if he win against Casimero.

But in the end we wanted for Casimero to win this fight so that he will give noticed to this new division that someone wanted to enter. And then hopefully we will still see him vs Inoue in the future.

I guess Casimero is looking forward to achieve two goals in front of this Ryo Akaho, first is to have his name back in the industry and the second goal is to avenge all the Filipino boxers that Akaho defeated in the process. This is a good fight and it's not that too cherry-picked fight in my perspective because Akaho is also a decent boxer and a good test for Casimero.

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October 29, 2022, 02:48:47 PM
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is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now? well I also voted for him and i love it seeing another Filipino Boxer to take step forward to what Manny Pacquiao had already attain.
but the problem here is that about Casimero having no activities these past months , maybe he needs more exposure and open training for more popularization , this will add confidence for Him to win this fight.

That is for sure, did you expect the opposite thing? Grin kidding!

That is expected because Casimero is more famous than Akaho, I bet this is the first time we've heard Akaho's name in this forum and if you look on Akaho's history and credentials, you'll know that he is more of a local boxer rather than international type. Both of them wanted this fight, Casimero is fighting to redeem his name after all he experienced recently and Akaho is fighting to get the exposure he needed as Casimero will be his key to have a profitable fights in the future.

Good point, yes both boxers will benefit winning against each other, for Casimero, Akaho might present a tough fight for him in his new division. And in paper, Akaho has a good record specialy against Pinoys.

On the other hand, Akaho is trying to break into the spot, maybe just enough for him to be a legitimate contender or could have been given a chance to crack at the belt if he win against Casimero.

But in the end we wanted for Casimero to win this fight so that he will give noticed to this new division that someone wanted to enter. And then hopefully we will still see him vs Inoue in the future.

I guess Casimero is looking forward to achieve two goals in front of this Ryo Akaho, first is to have his name back in the industry and the second goal is to avenge all the Filipino boxers that Akaho defeated in the process. This is a good fight and it's not that too cherry-picked fight in my perspective because Akaho is also a decent boxer and a good test for Casimero.

Yes I am agree with this mate and also casimero will do it as we all know that casimero is aiming once again his name back to the crowd and for the titles also. Then once casimero will win in this fight then the crowds or fans will slowly get to normal and also if casimero will win then there's a chance to face inoue once again and I do hope that fight will happen as soon as possible.

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October 29, 2022, 03:21:37 PM
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I guess Casimero is looking forward to achieve two goals in front of this Ryo Akaho, first is to have his name back in the industry and the second goal is to avenge all the Filipino boxers that Akaho defeated in the process. This is a good fight and it's not that too cherry-picked fight in my perspective because Akaho is also a decent boxer and a good test for Casimero.

I don't know that Ryo Akaho has defeated many Filipino boxers, I thought he is not a good boxer. Well, now that I know about that, I hope Casimero will knock him down so he will get an impressive win. I have not seen Casimero have a close fight anymore as his last fight was boring which was against Guillermo Rigondeaux.

Hopefully this one is going to be exciting, a toe to toe fight is worth watching as always.

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October 29, 2022, 05:32:39 PM
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I guess Casimero is looking forward to achieve two goals in front of this Ryo Akaho, first is to have his name back in the industry and the second goal is to avenge all the Filipino boxers that Akaho defeated in the process. This is a good fight and it's not that too cherry-picked fight in my perspective because Akaho is also a decent boxer and a good test for Casimero.

I don't know that Ryo Akaho has defeated many Filipino boxers, I thought he is not a good boxer. Well, now that I know about that, I hope Casimero will knock him down so he will get an impressive win. I have not seen Casimero have a close fight anymore as his last fight was boring which was against Guillermo Rigondeaux.

There are a lot of Filipino boxers hoping to get a chance to break into the world scene. So maybe what Akaho beat is not the top tier of PH boxers? Casimero is known to go and look for either KO/TKO so for sure in this new weight category, he wants to get a impressive win.

Hopefully this one is going to be exciting, a toe to toe fight is worth watching as always.

If Akaho is willing to go toe to toe against a hard punching like Casimero then it will be a war. But if he taste that power and he doesn't like it, then maybe he will curl up and Casimero will do the chasing all throughout the fight.

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October 30, 2022, 04:43:26 PM
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I guess Casimero is looking forward to achieve two goals in front of this Ryo Akaho, first is to have his name back in the industry and the second goal is to avenge all the Filipino boxers that Akaho defeated in the process. This is a good fight and it's not that too cherry-picked fight in my perspective because Akaho is also a decent boxer and a good test for Casimero.

I don't know that Ryo Akaho has defeated many Filipino boxers, I thought he is not a good boxer. Well, now that I know about that, I hope Casimero will knock him down so he will get an impressive win. I have not seen Casimero have a close fight anymore as his last fight was boring which was against Guillermo Rigondeaux.

Hopefully this one is going to be exciting, a toe to toe fight is worth watching as always.

It will be more interesting if both fighters will exchange solid punches and both fighters will not be afraid in a toe-to-toe engagements.

I remember that last fight of Casimero from his former division, it was a boring fight because Rigo is not willing to engage just keep running.

Looking to see that with that impression about Akaho he will be more on aggressive side aiming to beat Casimero with a convincing KO.
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October 30, 2022, 04:55:41 PM
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I guess Casimero is looking forward to achieve two goals in front of this Ryo Akaho, first is to have his name back in the industry and the second goal is to avenge all the Filipino boxers that Akaho defeated in the process. This is a good fight and it's not that too cherry-picked fight in my perspective because Akaho is also a decent boxer and a good test for Casimero.

I don't know that Ryo Akaho has defeated many Filipino boxers, I thought he is not a good boxer. Well, now that I know about that, I hope Casimero will knock him down so he will get an impressive win. I have not seen Casimero have a close fight anymore as his last fight was boring which was against Guillermo Rigondeaux.

There are a lot of Filipino boxers hoping to get a chance to break into the world scene. So maybe what Akaho beat is not the top tier of PH boxers? Casimero is known to go and look for either KO/TKO so for sure in this new weight category, he wants to get a impressive win.

Hopefully this one is going to be exciting, a toe to toe fight is worth watching as always.

If Akaho is willing to go toe to toe against a hard punching like Casimero then it will be a war. But if he taste that power and he doesn't like it, then maybe he will curl up and Casimero will do the chasing all throughout the fight.

That is probably the case because if those said Filipinos were strong enough when they faced Akaho then they won't be defeated and it is really true that there's a lot of Filipino boxers who are hoping to get their most awaited break but only few got the right skills to be known. In short, not everyone was born to be a boxer.

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October 30, 2022, 05:25:31 PM
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It will be more interesting if both fighters will exchange solid punches and both fighters will not be afraid in a toe-to-toe engagements.

I think Akaho isn't afraid of fighting Casimero in a toe to toe engagement.  I think Akaho is confident that he can beat Casimero since he has already beaten many Filipinos and all of them by way of KO.

I remember that last fight of Casimero from his former division, it was a boring fight because Rigo is not willing to engage just keep running.

If I can recall the fight, Casimero is having a hard time hitting Rigondeaux and Rigondeaux  doesn't look like to throw

Looking to see that with that impression about Akaho he will be more on aggressive side aiming to beat Casimero with a convincing KO.

Or possibly Casimero would be aggressive in this fight since it is possible that Casimero wanted to break the series of winning of Akaho against the Filipino boxers.

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October 30, 2022, 09:27:57 PM
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is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now? well I also voted for him and i love it seeing another Filipino Boxer to take step forward to what Manny Pacquiao had already attain.
but the problem here is that about Casimero having no activities these past months , maybe he needs more exposure and open training for more popularization , this will add confidence for Him to win this fight.

That is for sure, did you expect the opposite thing? Grin kidding!

That is expected because Casimero is more famous than Akaho, I bet this is the first time we've heard Akaho's name in this forum and if you look on Akaho's history and credentials, you'll know that he is more of a local boxer rather than international type. Both of them wanted this fight, Casimero is fighting to redeem his name after all he experienced recently and Akaho is fighting to get the exposure he needed as Casimero will be his key to have a profitable fights in the future.

Both are after with the money for sure, and with how you describe it, both have good reasons to win. Casimero is trying to rebuild his boxing reputation even he is starting from scratch now, while Akaho is trying to use Casimero's former fame to gather hypes in his career, the outcome will bring them to good next money fight.

First, they needed to accomplish, or rather better to say established, a KO win or a dominating win from this fight.

After that, we never know what kind of challenges the winner will proceed.

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October 30, 2022, 11:42:37 PM
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I think Akaho isn't afraid of fighting Casimero in a toe to toe engagement.  I think Akaho is confident that he can beat Casimero since he has already beaten many Filipinos and all of them by way of KO.

We have to consider that those PH boxers that ended up losing at the hands of Akaho are not even in Casimero's league or even close.

Therefore, this fight against Quadro Alas shouldn't be a problem.

Besides, Akaho, even active in the ring, is now at the point of being considered in a veteran age period and way past his prime.

Or possibly Casimero would be aggressive in this fight since it is possible that Casimero wanted to break the series of winning of Akaho against the Filipino boxers.

That should be, he should be aggressive and I'm expecting he will really be like that as fo sure he's excited to come back.

And no, I doubt he has the purpose to win just to cut the winning series of Akaho against PH boxers.

He is saving his career here and that's the big reason he needs to win.

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October 30, 2022, 11:57:14 PM
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First, they needed to accomplish, or rather better to say established, a KO win or a dominating win from this fight.

For sure they already know that and just doing their best to win. Both need some winning sequences in order to have a decent payout on their future fights.

But between them, Casimero really badly needed a win in order to regain himself.

If he loses here, no way he can meet Inoue now in the future.

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October 30, 2022, 11:58:31 PM
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Ring rust, everyone has to go to this. It's just a matter on how boxers are going to shake it off. And most likely, when Casimero's experience, he might likely start slow in this fight but eventually find his rhythm and this could end up to be a very good fight to watch as this could be war in his first fight at 122 lbs.

Nah, Casimero understands that a win here is his ticket for the next big fight, he was off for a while but he is still hungry for a win since he did not actually lose in a fight, he just got stripped with his belt which I believe he regretted his mistake. His comeback fight is something we should not miss to see if that fire in him is still there as he needed that to have a chance to face Inoue in the future.

Yes, I think the motivation and the hungry is still in the belly of Casimero. You are right that he didn't lose any fight or his belt, it's just he can't make the desired weight at 118 lbs.

So he will have be extra motivated in this new weight class, he will for sure look for the likes of Inoue if he decided to jump on this division or the current champion. Although there could be argument that he might be too small at 122 lbs but we will see if his power will be enough in this new division.

After being stripped of his WBO belt, unable to fight because of his medical condition, being suspended on his defense fight, and having nothin else left, Casimero is really hungry and more motivated to get the job done right. This is his opportunity to somehow climb again at the ranks and compete for the championship title.

But unfortunately, lots of big monsters are now in the super bantamweight and if Inoue will moved up to, another big challenge for Casimero if ever he can now be considered to fight against those on the top of the rankings.
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October 31, 2022, 12:36:32 AM
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is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now? well I also voted for him and i love it seeing another Filipino Boxer to take step forward to what Manny Pacquiao had already attain.
but the problem here is that about Casimero having no activities these past months , maybe he needs more exposure and open training for more popularization , this will add confidence for Him to win this fight.

That is for sure, did you expect the opposite thing? Grin kidding!
hahaha , of course not as I am Casimero's Fan also  Grin

and also why someone will put their trust when it is obvious that He is the favorite in this fight.

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That is expected because Casimero is more famous than Akaho, I bet this is the first time we've heard Akaho's name in this forum and if you look on Akaho's history and credentials, you'll know that he is more of a local boxer rather than international type. Both of them wanted this fight, Casimero is fighting to redeem his name after all he experienced recently and Akaho is fighting to get the exposure he needed as Casimero will be his key to have a profitable fights in the future.
Actually it is not about popularity mate but it is about how they have proven themselves in ring and that is how Casimero prove him as popular all these years.

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is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now? well I also voted for him and i love it seeing another Filipino Boxer to take step forward to what Manny Pacquiao had already attain.
but the problem here is that about Casimero having no activities these past months , maybe he needs more exposure and open training for more popularization , this will add confidence for Him to win this fight.

That is for sure, did you expect the opposite thing? Grin kidding!
hahaha , of course not as I am Casimero's Fan also  Grin

and also why someone will put their trust when it is obvious that He is the favorite in this fight.

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That is expected because Casimero is more famous than Akaho, I bet this is the first time we've heard Akaho's name in this forum and if you look on Akaho's history and credentials, you'll know that he is more of a local boxer rather than international type. Both of them wanted this fight, Casimero is fighting to redeem his name after all he experienced recently and Akaho is fighting to get the exposure he needed as Casimero will be his key to have a profitable fights in the future.
Actually it is not about popularity mate but it is about how they have proven themselves in ring and that is how Casimero prove him as popular all these years.

i can agree that casimero has boxing skills. but when he failed to get a fight with inoue many times, i guess some of his boxing fans got disappointed. after all the trash talks and long discussions that we have here when it comes to casimero, most of his fights didn't happen and so this upcoming fight is being anticipated by his fans. hopefully, he will not cancel in the last minute.
casimero's name rings a bell more than akaho. so high likely that casimero will be the favourite here, even by the bookies.

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October 31, 2022, 07:50:03 AM
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i can agree that casimero has boxing skills. but when he failed to get a fight with inoue many times, i guess some of his boxing fans got disappointed.

His fans is disappointed on Inoue not him because he was always ready to face Inoue when he was still a champion but Inoue choose to fight Donaire instead of him. Inoue loss his title because of an offense, but if he was still a champ, I doubt Inoue would go for an undisputed fight with him.

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