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October 31, 2022, 01:52:35 PM
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i can agree that casimero has boxing skills. but when he failed to get a fight with inoue many times, i guess some of his boxing fans got disappointed.

His fans is disappointed on Inoue not him because he was always ready to face Inoue when he was still a champion but Inoue choose to fight Donaire instead of him. Inoue loss his title because of an offense, but if he was still a champ, I doubt Inoue would go for an undisputed fight with him.

You are maybe right but Casimero was not careful enough because made a mistake that cost him his belt and he losses that opportunity to fight Inoue. If Inoue was making an excuse, then he should be happy because of what happen to Casimero, but, if he will move up in weight and will meet Casimero, then we can still see a good fight between the Monster and Quadro Alas.

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October 31, 2022, 03:29:15 PM
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i can agree that casimero has boxing skills. but when he failed to get a fight with inoue many times, i guess some of his boxing fans got disappointed.

His fans is disappointed on Inoue not him because he was always ready to face Inoue when he was still a champion but Inoue choose to fight Donaire instead of him. Inoue loss his title because of an offense, but if he was still a champ, I doubt Inoue would go for an undisputed fight with him.

You are maybe right but Casimero was not careful enough because made a mistake that cost him his belt and he losses that opportunity to fight Inoue. If Inoue was making an excuse, then he should be happy because of what happen to Casimero, but, if he will move up in weight and will meet Casimero, then we can still see a good fight between the Monster and Quadro Alas.

The chance to see them inside the same ring still possible, after Inoue gather all the belts from his current division the chance that he will move to the next level is an option for him, a privilege like what Canelo did challenging Bivol, if so happen that Inoue manage to snatch the belt from that next level, Casimero will have a good chance meeting him if he will keep winning his way.

Still optimistic that both fighters will meet and fight, though still depend on the outcome of their upcoming fights and if how the promoters will take care of this business,.

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October 31, 2022, 03:38:31 PM
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i can agree that casimero has boxing skills. but when he failed to get a fight with inoue many times, i guess some of his boxing fans got disappointed.

His fans is disappointed on Inoue not him because he was always ready to face Inoue when he was still a champion but Inoue choose to fight Donaire instead of him. Inoue loss his title because of an offense, but if he was still a champ, I doubt Inoue would go for an undisputed fight with him.

You are maybe right but Casimero was not careful enough because made a mistake that cost him his belt and he losses that opportunity to fight Inoue. If Inoue was making an excuse, then he should be happy because of what happen to Casimero, but, if he will move up in weight and will meet Casimero, then we can still see a good fight between the Monster and Quadro Alas.

Judging from Casimero's situation lately, that gives us some hint that his fight with Inoue might not materialize too just like what happened to him against Paul Butler because Quadro Alas himself is already struggling to keep his weight from the desired weight. He's struggling to maintain his weight to be a bantamweight boxer that is why he is now contesting at 122 pounds. Let's just hope that we can still see them dancing soon at 122 because we never know, Inoue might choose Casimero to be his opponent in his debut.

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November 01, 2022, 01:20:10 PM
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Ring rust, everyone has to go to this. It's just a matter on how boxers are going to shake it off. And most likely, when Casimero's experience, he might likely start slow in this fight but eventually find his rhythm and this could end up to be a very good fight to watch as this could be war in his first fight at 122 lbs.

Nah, Casimero understands that a win here is his ticket for the next big fight, he was off for a while but he is still hungry for a win since he did not actually lose in a fight, he just got stripped with his belt which I believe he regretted his mistake. His comeback fight is something we should not miss to see if that fire in him is still there as he needed that to have a chance to face Inoue in the future.

Yes, I think the motivation and the hungry is still in the belly of Casimero. You are right that he didn't lose any fight or his belt, it's just he can't make the desired weight at 118 lbs.

So he will have be extra motivated in this new weight class, he will for sure look for the likes of Inoue if he decided to jump on this division or the current champion. Although there could be argument that he might be too small at 122 lbs but we will see if his power will be enough in this new division.

After being stripped of his WBO belt, unable to fight because of his medical condition, being suspended on his defense fight, and having nothin else left, Casimero is really hungry and more motivated to get the job done right. This is his opportunity to somehow climb again at the ranks and compete for the championship title.

But unfortunately, lots of big monsters are now in the super bantamweight and if Inoue will moved up to, another big challenge for Casimero if ever he can now be considered to fight against those on the top of the rankings.

And all of that unfortunate situations of Casimero happened in I think in just a span of 5 months, just like you said, he was hospitalized and had to recover first before starting his rigorous training to make sure that he'll remove the excess weight he had as he already had the history of having issues with his fight. When everything feels right, he was stripped by his belt few days before the fight because a video of him have leaked.

Cannot imagine how did Casimero feel after those unprecedented situations, surely he took some of his time reflecting about those incidents before deciding to climb in this new division. Now that he's back and hungry, I'll expect a good match from him.

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November 01, 2022, 03:32:05 PM
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is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now? well I also voted for him and i love it seeing another Filipino Boxer to take step forward to what Manny Pacquiao had already attain.
but the problem here is that about Casimero having no activities these past months , maybe he needs more exposure and open training for more popularization , this will add confidence for Him to win this fight.

That is for sure, did you expect the opposite thing? Grin kidding!

That is expected because Casimero is more famous than Akaho, I bet this is the first time we've heard Akaho's name in this forum and if you look on Akaho's history and credentials, you'll know that he is more of a local boxer rather than international type. Both of them wanted this fight, Casimero is fighting to redeem his name after all he experienced recently and Akaho is fighting to get the exposure he needed as Casimero will be his key to have a profitable fights in the future.

Good point, yes both boxers will benefit winning against each other, for Casimero, Akaho might present a tough fight for him in his new division. And in paper, Akaho has a good record specialy against Pinoys.

On the other hand, Akaho is trying to break into the spot, maybe just enough for him to be a legitimate contender or could have been given a chance to crack at the belt if he win against Casimero.

But in the end we wanted for Casimero to win this fight so that he will give noticed to this new division that someone wanted to enter. And then hopefully we will still see him vs Inoue in the future.

I guess Casimero is looking forward to achieve two goals in front of this Ryo Akaho, first is to have his name back in the industry and the second goal is to avenge all the Filipino boxers that Akaho defeated in the process. This is a good fight and it's not that too cherry-picked fight in my perspective because Akaho is also a decent boxer and a good test for Casimero.

Yes I am agree with this mate and also casimero will do it as we all know that casimero is aiming once again his name back to the crowd and for the titles also. Then once casimero will win in this fight then the crowds or fans will slowly get to normal and also if casimero will win then there's a chance to face inoue once again and I do hope that fight will happen as soon as possible.

Yes, that is the only struggle for Casimero for now because super-bantam is quite different from where he is from, the weight difference is not that much but their strengths would be affected for sure because this aren't his comfortable division. But since Casimero is struggling with his weight, we don't know for sure, he might find this division more comfortable for him. We will see more about it soon. I have a feeling that Casimero will end this with a blast as a message to the boxing industry that he is back.

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November 01, 2022, 04:22:54 PM
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i can agree that casimero has boxing skills. but when he failed to get a fight with inoue many times, i guess some of his boxing fans got disappointed.

His fans is disappointed on Inoue not him because he was always ready to face Inoue when he was still a champion but Inoue choose to fight Donaire instead of him. Inoue loss his title because of an offense, but if he was still a champ, I doubt Inoue would go for an undisputed fight with him.

You are maybe right but Casimero was not careful enough because made a mistake that cost him his belt and he losses that opportunity to fight Inoue. If Inoue was making an excuse, then he should be happy because of what happen to Casimero, but, if he will move up in weight and will meet Casimero, then we can still see a good fight between the Monster and Quadro Alas.

Judging from Casimero's situation lately, that gives us some hint that his fight with Inoue might not materialize too just like what happened to him against Paul Butler because Quadro Alas himself is already struggling to keep his weight from the desired weight. He's struggling to maintain his weight to be a bantamweight boxer that is why he is now contesting at 122 pounds. Let's just hope that we can still see them dancing soon at 122 because we never know, Inoue might choose Casimero to be his opponent in his debut.

For sure Inoue will rather choose fighting against the division champ instead of choosing Casimero where he might have a tough
job to beat, otherwise, the promoters will offer huge amount.

We can't conclude what fate Casimero may have from this new division but with his skills and IQ he also has decent chance of making
his way to be one of the top contenders for the belt.

One step at a time, just continue winning and everything will be concluded accordingly.
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November 02, 2022, 08:55:44 AM
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is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now? well I also voted for him and i love it seeing another Filipino Boxer to take step forward to what Manny Pacquiao had already attain.
but the problem here is that about Casimero having no activities these past months , maybe he needs more exposure and open training for more popularization , this will add confidence for Him to win this fight.

That is for sure, did you expect the opposite thing? Grin kidding!

That is expected because Casimero is more famous than Akaho, I bet this is the first time we've heard Akaho's name in this forum and if you look on Akaho's history and credentials, you'll know that he is more of a local boxer rather than international type. Both of them wanted this fight, Casimero is fighting to redeem his name after all he experienced recently and Akaho is fighting to get the exposure he needed as Casimero will be his key to have a profitable fights in the future.

Good point, yes both boxers will benefit winning against each other, for Casimero, Akaho might present a tough fight for him in his new division. And in paper, Akaho has a good record specialy against Pinoys.

On the other hand, Akaho is trying to break into the spot, maybe just enough for him to be a legitimate contender or could have been given a chance to crack at the belt if he win against Casimero.

But in the end we wanted for Casimero to win this fight so that he will give noticed to this new division that someone wanted to enter. And then hopefully we will still see him vs Inoue in the future.

I guess Casimero is looking forward to achieve two goals in front of this Ryo Akaho, first is to have his name back in the industry and the second goal is to avenge all the Filipino boxers that Akaho defeated in the process. This is a good fight and it's not that too cherry-picked fight in my perspective because Akaho is also a decent boxer and a good test for Casimero.

Yes I am agree with this mate and also casimero will do it as we all know that casimero is aiming once again his name back to the crowd and for the titles also. Then once casimero will win in this fight then the crowds or fans will slowly get to normal and also if casimero will win then there's a chance to face inoue once again and I do hope that fight will happen as soon as possible.

Yes, that is the only struggle for Casimero for now because super-bantam is quite different from where he is from, the weight difference is not that much but their strengths would be affected for sure because this aren't his comfortable division. But since Casimero is struggling with his weight, we don't know for sure, he might find this division more comfortable for him. We will see more about it soon. I have a feeling that Casimero will end this with a blast as a message to the boxing industry that he is back.
We can't really tell if he is uncomfortable in this division or not. We will have to wait and see how he is going to fare in this fight against Akaho.

Nevertheless, if he is not going to struggle in weight then it's a + sign for him in this division. Yes, he will still need to go to a diet but maybe at not as rigorous as when he is at 118 lbs. For me, it's the question on whether he can bring his power or if he is too small in this division to make damage to tall and natural super bantamweight boxer.

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November 02, 2022, 10:53:47 AM
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We can't really tell if he is uncomfortable in this division or not. We will have to wait and see how he is going to fare in this fight against Akaho.

Nevertheless, if he is not going to struggle in weight then it's a + sign for him in this division. Yes, he will still need to go to a diet but maybe at not as rigorous as when he is at 118 lbs. For me, it's the question on whether he can bring his power or if he is too small in this division to make damage to tall and natural super bantamweight boxer.
And also his speed knowing that he is adding weight it will be affected since he is not really used to body shape, though a fighter needs to adjust and he really needed this break to make his name notice from this division, if he succeed then we will expect more from him showing his talent, Casimero will find a way to make his comeback noticeable, expecting to see a toe-to-toe engagement with Akaho.

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

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November 02, 2022, 11:46:37 AM
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It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

Well, I have no doubt Casimero will make it an entertaining fight, however, it's also important Akaho will be willing to give his 100% and do a toe to toe fight, not like Rigondeaux who just run all night.  Smiley I am not too familiar on his opponent but judging his boxing record, I know this guy is willing to exchange faces with his opponent.

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November 02, 2022, 11:52:02 AM
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We can't really tell if he is uncomfortable in this division or not. We will have to wait and see how he is going to fare in this fight against Akaho.

Nevertheless, if he is not going to struggle in weight then it's a + sign for him in this division. Yes, he will still need to go to a diet but maybe at not as rigorous as when he is at 118 lbs. For me, it's the question on whether he can bring his power or if he is too small in this division to make damage to tall and natural super bantamweight boxer.
And also his speed knowing that he is adding weight it will be affected since he is not really used to body shape, though a fighter needs to adjust and he really needed this break to make his name notice from this division, if he succeed then we will expect more from him showing his talent, Casimero will find a way to make his comeback noticeable, expecting to see a toe-to-toe engagement with Akaho.

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

I really think Casimero would be too small and short at 122 just like Inoue. The difference between them is Inoue has the speed that might be enough to compete well at 122. We are looking forward to Casimero's return, let's hope he feels good and comfortable. Casimero needs to perform well in this fight if he wants to get a title shot next year. Although after this fight, Casimero can still drop again in weight so he can take a vacant belt once Inoue moves up after collecting them all.

So for now, our eyes will be on Casimero-Akaho, Inoue-Butler, and 122 WBA/IBF champion Murodjon Akhmadaliev against his mandatory challenger Marlon Tapales.

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November 02, 2022, 11:58:23 AM
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It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

He really need to make a comeback win with this one and give the audiences the fight they really wanted to see from him. If his skills are still there, the fans all around the world will demand to see him fighting Inoue next. When their managers see the demand of that fight, they will gonna negotiate and make it come true.

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November 02, 2022, 12:12:13 PM
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Although after this fight, Casimero can still drop again in weight so he can take a vacant belt once Inoue moves up after collecting them all.

That might only happen if Casimero will take his diet seriously, if by chance either he wins or loses if his camp sees his disadvantage, he
can take the right diet and meet the require weight and be back to his former division and take his shot. It's better maybe if he will meet
Inoue from this division, so both of them are comfortable fighting with the weight that they both dominated.

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So for now, our eyes will be on Casimero-Akaho, Inoue-Butler, and 122 WBA/IBF champion Murodjon Akhmadaliev against his mandatory challenger Marlon Tapales.

Yup, this is the current events that fans will follow, all the winners will bring more hypes to their respective careers, for sure they are all eager to take one another and have that chance to fight with each other in case fate destine them to meet inside the ring.

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November 02, 2022, 12:40:32 PM
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It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

He really need to make a comeback win with this one and give the audiences the fight they really wanted to see from him. If his skills are still there, the fans all around the world will demand to see him fighting Inoue next. When their managers see the demand of that fight, they will gonna negotiate and make it come true.

Skills-wise, many will agree with me that Casimero has the edge on this department and I think he would work hard on his training regimen because that would be the only way that he can be sure to beat Akaho, I mean skills are nothing if the hard work is not there, it should work side by side.

For me, Casimero is a marketable fighter because of his antics and he doesn't need to be associated with Inoue at this point in his career because that money fight will come if he will focus on his goal which is to be back on his winning ways.

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November 02, 2022, 04:09:15 PM
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We can't really tell if he is uncomfortable in this division or not. We will have to wait and see how he is going to fare in this fight against Akaho.

Nevertheless, if he is not going to struggle in weight then it's a + sign for him in this division. Yes, he will still need to go to a diet but maybe at not as rigorous as when he is at 118 lbs. For me, it's the question on whether he can bring his power or if he is too small in this division to make damage to tall and natural super bantamweight boxer.
And also his speed knowing that he is adding weight it will be affected since he is not really used to body shape, though a fighter needs to adjust and he really needed this break to make his name notice from this division, if he succeed then we will expect more from him showing his talent, Casimero will find a way to make his comeback noticeable, expecting to see a toe-to-toe engagement with Akaho.

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

casimero need to win this match in order to be recognize once again because if he will loss these fight then for sure supporters and fans will be disappointed because they are hoping a big comeback from casimero which means he need to be more aggressive and competitive in this fight. But I think he can do it without a doubt. And yes you are right that mate this fight will be interesting since the hungry lion want to show

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November 02, 2022, 05:15:05 PM
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We can't really tell if he is uncomfortable in this division or not. We will have to wait and see how he is going to fare in this fight against Akaho.

Nevertheless, if he is not going to struggle in weight then it's a + sign for him in this division. Yes, he will still need to go to a diet but maybe at not as rigorous as when he is at 118 lbs. For me, it's the question on whether he can bring his power or if he is too small in this division to make damage to tall and natural super bantamweight boxer.
And also his speed knowing that he is adding weight it will be affected since he is not really used to body shape, though a fighter needs to adjust and he really needed this break to make his name notice from this division, if he succeed then we will expect more from him showing his talent, Casimero will find a way to make his comeback noticeable, expecting to see a toe-to-toe engagement with Akaho.

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

casimero need to win this match in order to be recognize once again because if he will loss these fight then for sure supporters and fans will be disappointed because they are hoping a big comeback from casimero which means he need to be more aggressive and competitive in this fight. But I think he can do it without a doubt. And yes you are right that mate this fight will be interesting since the hungry lion want to show

Yes, that's right, after he made a ridiculous and fatal mistake that he experienced so that he lost his title.
Many of his fans were disappointed because he did something very reckless. this time Casimero had to win and really prove that he still deserved it.
If Casimero manages to beat Akaho in this fight, it will be a good opportunity for Casimero to prove to his disappointed fans.
But Akaho is not an opponent that Casimero can underestimate because he has a good fighting record too.









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November 02, 2022, 05:32:54 PM
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It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

Well, I have no doubt Casimero will make it an entertaining fight, however, it's also important Akaho will be willing to give his 100% and do a toe to toe fight, not like Rigondeaux who just run all night.  Smiley I am not too familiar on his opponent but judging his boxing record, I know this guy is willing to exchange faces with his opponent.

I'm already expecting a heavy fight because both of them has their own goal and only by a way of win can meet those goals they have. The only difference is that Casimero is looking for a good fight where he can bounce back while Akaho is seeing Casimero as a way to get his name known in the international league. What I want to see is Casimero's mind games, I hope we can get some glimpse soon.

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November 02, 2022, 07:32:55 PM
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It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

Well, I have no doubt Casimero will make it an entertaining fight, however, it's also important Akaho will be willing to give his 100% and do a toe to toe fight, not like Rigondeaux who just run all night.  Smiley I am not too familiar on his opponent but judging his boxing record, I know this guy is willing to exchange faces with his opponent.

I'm already expecting a heavy fight because both of them has their own goal and only by a way of win can meet those goals they have. The only difference is that Casimero is looking for a good fight where he can bounce back while Akaho is seeing Casimero as a way to get his name known in the international league. What I want to see is Casimero's mind games, I hope we can get some glimpse soon.

Both are banger, so obviously, this will be a war in the ring. And in addition, Casimero is entertaining and very brandish as per his previous fight. And most likely he will do that again in the ring, maybe toy with Akaho in the beginning of the round as if to say that he is not affected by his punches. So yeah even in the fight there will be mind games being played by Casimero and if Akaho is not careful and fall for this trick then definitely, Casimero might have a better chance of winning.
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November 03, 2022, 07:31:01 AM
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It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

Well, I have no doubt Casimero will make it an entertaining fight, however, it's also important Akaho will be willing to give his 100% and do a toe to toe fight, not like Rigondeaux who just run all night.  Smiley I am not too familiar on his opponent but judging his boxing record, I know this guy is willing to exchange faces with his opponent.

I'm already expecting a heavy fight because both of them has their own goal and only by a way of win can meet those goals they have. The only difference is that Casimero is looking for a good fight where he can bounce back while Akaho is seeing Casimero as a way to get his name known in the international league. What I want to see is Casimero's mind games, I hope we can get some glimpse soon.

Both are banger, so obviously, this will be a war in the ring. And in addition, Casimero is entertaining and very brandish as per his previous fight. And most likely he will do that again in the ring, maybe toy with Akaho in the beginning of the round as if to say that he is not affected by his punches. So yeah even in the fight there will be mind games being played by Casimero and if Akaho is not careful and fall for this trick then definitely, Casimero might have a better chance of winning.

Casimero's style is proven to be effective, so I have no doubt that he could win this game, and not only a win, it's a big win because most likely it will result to a KO. After a long period of being inactive, it's time for him to come back and make some noise so people will know that he is back again, he may not be a champion after this win but becoming a top challenger would give him a chance to fight the champ.

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November 03, 2022, 07:59:08 AM
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It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

Well, I have no doubt Casimero will make it an entertaining fight, however, it's also important Akaho will be willing to give his 100% and do a toe to toe fight, not like Rigondeaux who just run all night.  Smiley I am not too familiar on his opponent but judging his boxing record, I know this guy is willing to exchange faces with his opponent.

I'm already expecting a heavy fight because both of them has their own goal and only by a way of win can meet those goals they have. The only difference is that Casimero is looking for a good fight where he can bounce back while Akaho is seeing Casimero as a way to get his name known in the international league. What I want to see is Casimero's mind games, I hope we can get some glimpse soon.

Both are banger, so obviously, this will be a war in the ring. And in addition, Casimero is entertaining and very brandish as per his previous fight. And most likely he will do that again in the ring, maybe toy with Akaho in the beginning of the round as if to say that he is not affected by his punches. So yeah even in the fight there will be mind games being played by Casimero and if Akaho is not careful and fall for this trick then definitely, Casimero might have a better chance of winning.

Casimero's style is proven to be effective, so I have no doubt that he could win this game, and not only a win, it's a big win because most likely it will result to a KO. After a long period of being inactive, it's time for him to come back and make some noise so people will know that he is back again, he may not be a champion after this win but becoming a top challenger would give him a chance to fight the champ.

Yes, but he still needs to be very careful in this fight. This is a new division for him and definitely there could be some adjustment, even that small that he needs to do like adjusting to the weight and the power of his opponent. So it will not be like be a easy thing to accomplished for him because he is facing a very tough and game fighter. So hopefully, John Riel should not take this fight lightly and be overconfident.

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November 03, 2022, 08:44:25 AM
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It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

He really need to make a comeback win with this one and give the audiences the fight they really wanted to see from him. If his skills are still there, the fans all around the world will demand to see him fighting Inoue next. When their managers see the demand of that fight, they will gonna negotiate and make it come true.

Skills-wise, many will agree with me that Casimero has the edge on this department and I think he would work hard on his training regimen because that would be the only way that he can be sure to beat Akaho, I mean skills are nothing if the hard work is not there, it should work side by side.

For me, Casimero is a marketable fighter because of his antics and he doesn't need to be associated with Inoue at this point in his career because that money fight will come if he will focus on his goal which is to be back on his winning ways.

Yup, focusing in this upcoming fight will be the key for Casimero to win this fight, if he regain his name and start hyping back his career sooner or later money fight will come, not exactly from how he has been treated way back from his original weight division but if he keeps getting the attention for sure promoters will give him the money to fight, that may lead to a good title fight.

It's on how he will prepare himself and how he will impress the fans. The goal is to win and make his way up from this new division.

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