[Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3

[Fredomago]

No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

Akaho is a very good actor to act that way. It seems he is afraid to Casimero's heavy punch. Well, it's very unfair having a no contest result because clearly Casimero dominate the ring. It is supposed to be his victory but it ended to a disappointing result. I feel bad for Casimero, obviously he did his best and prepared himself for this fight. Is it possible to have a rematch?

Casimero put everything to win this fight but like what you said, Akaho is a great actor and we all witness what happen I'm not sure if Akaho will take that chance giving Casimero a chance to bring him down, after tasting how hard those punches that Casiemro throw to him, I can say that aide from huge amount of money that might bring him into the negotiation table but nonetheless, he won't take that  route.

[Kemarit]

No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

Akaho is a very good actor to act that way. It seems he is afraid to Casimero's heavy punch. Well, it's very unfair having a no contest result because clearly Casimero dominate the ring. It is supposed to be his victory but it ended to a disappointing result. I feel bad for Casimero, obviously he did his best and prepared himself for this fight. Is it possible to have a rematch?

Casimero put everything to win this fight but like what you said, Akaho is a great actor and we all witness what happen I'm not sure if Akaho will take that chance giving Casimero a chance to bring him down, after tasting how hard those punches that Casiemro throw to him, I can say that aide from huge amount of money that might bring him into the negotiation table but nonetheless, he won't take that  route.

We all feel bad for Casimero because as you have said he put everything in training just to get back on this track for his career. But Akaho doesn't want to take the chance to get knockout in his own country so he just take the best route for him.

As for Casimero, I don't think he need to file a protest, just take it as it is and move on to the next fight in 122 lbs. Hopefully it will be in some undercard in the US, no need to go to the champions immediately, another tune up fight but this time it should be in the US soil so that he will get a good exposure again.

[TimeTeller]

It is going to become more interesting since Inoue-Butler happens in less than a week and Inoue is expected to vacate all the belts at 118 if he wins. At 122, WBO and WBC champion Stephen Fulton might also vacate his belts if he accepts the WBC mandate for him to move up to 126. The mo vacant belts, the higher chances of Casimero becoming a world champion again.

I like that, thanks for your research. Casimero deserves to be a champion again but he will not comeback anymore on the bantamweight division as he struggles to maintain the right weight. Now that he is in the higher division and his power is very evident, I guess he is very capable of knocking down opponents as long as he will go toe to toe on him. I'm expecting more exciting fights ahead for him, and hopefully he will not only win a vacate title but steal a title from a champion.

I believe this will be the next target of Casimero's camp after this drama.
But he needs to make sure that he is complying with the rules on the weight division that he will put himself into.
People are getting disappointed if his fight is getting delayed, suspended because of his weight issues.

No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

Akaho is a very good actor to act that way. It seems he is afraid to Casimero's heavy punch. Well, it's very unfair having a no contest result because clearly Casimero dominate the ring. It is supposed to be his victory but it ended to a disappointing result. I feel bad for Casimero, obviously he did his best and prepared himself for this fight. Is it possible to have a rematch?

Casimero put everything to win this fight but like what you said, Akaho is a great actor and we all witness what happen I'm not sure if Akaho will take that chance giving Casimero a chance to bring him down, after tasting how hard those punches that Casiemro throw to him, I can say that aide from huge amount of money that might bring him into the negotiation table but nonetheless, he won't take that  route.

We all feel bad for Casimero because as you have said he put everything in training just to get back on this track for his career. But Akaho doesn't want to take the chance to get knockout in his own country so he just take the best route for him.

As for Casimero, I don't think he need to file a protest, just take it as it is and move on to the next fight in 122 lbs. Hopefully it will be in some undercard in the US, no need to go to the champions immediately, another tune up fight but this time it should be in the US soil so that he will get a good exposure again.

Most boxing sites are using the term "pretending to be hurt" in reference to Akaho.
It means, most audience also feel that Akaho just complained so the fight will be stopped and not favoring Casimero.
I don't think Casimero will ask for a re-match on this boxer. Better look for another worthwhile opponent.

[serjent05]

No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

Akaho is a very good actor to act that way. It seems he is afraid to Casimero's heavy punch. Well, it's very unfair having a no contest result because clearly Casimero dominate the ring. It is supposed to be his victory but it ended to a disappointing result. I feel bad for Casimero, obviously he did his best and prepared himself for this fight. Is it possible to have a rematch?

Casimero put everything to win this fight but like what you said, Akaho is a great actor and we all witness what happen I'm not sure if Akaho will take that chance giving Casimero a chance to bring him down, after tasting how hard those punches that Casiemro throw to him, I can say that aide from huge amount of money that might bring him into the negotiation table but nonetheless, he won't take that  route.

I think a rematch won't happen if the officials decided to suggest this thing.  I think Akaho had enough taste of Casimero's strength so probably Akaho will disregard any chance of a rematch fight against Casimero.

Regardless of what happened, it is pleasing to the eye how these two boxers respect each other in the conference room when they are called for some discussion.

It was the worse fight I've ever witnessed and though Casimero is known to overcome opponents that are strange and psycho, this time it was all different because it seems like he is not fighting a pro boxer rather it feels like it was a street fight. Too bad it ended up like that and it wasn't the ending that we expect because the way they move inside the ring is unusual and Akaho seems to used the opportunity to stop the fight and thinking he might win unfortunately for him, it was a no contest and they really need to move on and not getting any rematch because the way they fight is not that exciting.

I have seen a worst scenario than this.  Casimero isn't fighting a street fight but rather fighting in a stage play where the main actor is Akaho.    I bet this would receive a stage play of the year award and Akaho being the best actor.

[harizen]

I don't think Casimero will ask for a re-match on this boxer. Better look for another worthwhile opponent.

I hope boxing councils will take a look at that fight and allow Casimero to have at least give a chance to fight a ranked fighter in at least the Top 5.

Akaho just became a punching bag for Casimero and no way he will last even on 5 rounds. It's clear already that Casimero does have a chance against those boxers that much ahead of the rank of Akaho. It will be more entertaining to see if Casimero will instead face a much stronger and tough opponent as Akaho is not like that.

A rematch is totally crap and I'm sure Akaho won't like to do it either as he already feels and experiences the wrath of Casimero.

[goinmerry]

We all feel bad for Casimero because as you have said he put everything in training just to get back on this track for his career. But Akaho doesn't want to take the chance to get knockout in his own country so he just take the best route for him.

I think we shouldn't feel bad for Casimero as even though that fight turned out bad, he shows the world that he can still dominate his opponent even inactive for a year. I'm sure Casimero catch the most boxers' attention in the 122 lbs as they are now next in line. I'm also sure that Casimero's next fight will be against a much more popular boxer compared to Akaho.

This is the start now of his new path and he should just need to continue winning every match.

[Yamifoud]

We all feel bad for Casimero because as you have said he put everything in training just to get back on this track for his career. But Akaho doesn't want to take the chance to get knockout in his own country so he just take the best route for him.

I think we shouldn't feel bad for Casimero as even though that fight turned out bad, he shows the world that he can still dominate his opponent even inactive for a year. I'm sure Casimero catch the most boxers' attention in the 122 lbs as they are now next in line. I'm also sure that Casimero's next fight will be against a much more popular boxer compared to Akaho.

This is the start now of his new path and he should just need to continue winning every match.

Exactly, the decision is not good but we saw the fight on how Casimero dominated Akaho. Sometimes, the dirty technique would win but it will never win in the eyes of the fans. IMO, Casimero is very comfortable in the current weight class and he will most likely meet Inoue in the ring in the future.

It resulted to no contest but it's very clear who won the fight.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

We all feel bad for Casimero because as you have said he put everything in training just to get back on this track for his career. But Akaho doesn't want to take the chance to get knockout in his own country so he just take the best route for him.

I think we shouldn't feel bad for Casimero as even though that fight turned out bad, he shows the world that he can still dominate his opponent even inactive for a year. I'm sure Casimero catch the most boxers' attention in the 122 lbs as they are now next in line. I'm also sure that Casimero's next fight will be against a much more popular boxer compared to Akaho.

I don't see us feeling bad for Casimero, it's not a good fight, but it's not his fault. He still has the power even after not fighting for more than a year. Definitely, 122 lbs will be exciting as this is his official 122 lbs debut and we see his power in this new weight class.

This is the start now of his new path and he should just need to continue winning every match.

True, a new beginning for him and he should take advantage of it as he has the momentum. Now, we focus our attention to the Inoue vs Butler match.

I like Casimero getting his hands against Luis Nery, this will be an explosive fight.

[BitcoinPanther]

I don't think Casimero will ask for a re-match on this boxer. Better look for another worthwhile opponent.

I hope boxing councils will take a look at that fight and allow Casimero to have at least give a chance to fight a ranked fighter in at least the Top 5.

I believe the case is in the hand of the boxing council now and probably reviewing the decision if it is just.  According to Casimero, there is a huge possibility that the win will be given to him, we would like that to happen but of course that is not reliable because Casimero isn't within the people who will make the decision.

Akaho just became a punching bag for Casimero and no way he will last even on 5 rounds. It's clear already that Casimero does have a chance against those boxers that much ahead of the rank of Akaho. It will be more entertaining to see if Casimero will instead face a much stronger and tough opponent as Akaho is not like that.

A rematch is totally crap and I'm sure Akaho won't like to do it either as he already feels and experiences the wrath of Casimero.

I think there will be no rematch because, according to Nonito Donaire[1], Akaho is already planning to retire after his fight against Casimero.


[1] https://youtu.be/-5Y8y4oZjoI?t=98

[Natalim]

I think there will be no rematch because, according to Nonito Donaire[1], Akaho is already planning to retire after his fight against Casimero.

Good thing he realized that he cannot handle powerful punches anymore, but Donaire is always better than him because although it was clear that he can't carry the punches of Inoue, but still he choose to continue, this guy (AKaho) choose to make excuses and the result was in his favor.

[Jawhead999]

Good thing he realized that he cannot handle powerful punches anymore, but Donaire is always better than him because although it was clear that he can't carry the punches of Inoue, but still he choose to continue, this guy (AKaho) choose to make excuses and the result was in his favor.

Casimero is really dominating, in 2 rounds we can see Casimero landed clean and strong punch to Akaho's face, it's just unfortunate that Casimero accidentally punch back of Akaho's head, I think it's not that strong too. Actually the fight can be continued even though Casimero get reduction on his point, but I'm pretty sure Casimero will win via Knock Out before sixth round. There's many fights where someone punch their opponent back for one time, but the fight isn't cancelled.

[Vaculin]

No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

It is obvious that Akaho was hurt, it is just a matter of time on that round to putting Akaho on his knee but the referee to the rescue.  Another thing, if that was a true illegal blow, they could have made the ringside physician look at Akaho asap, but it took them several minutes to do so making me think that is indeed one of the plans of the officiating official to save Akaho when a thing like that happens. 

Let's not go in that discussion because if we say that the officiating officials are unfair and they favored Akaho, then we would've also said in general that Japanese officials in boxing organization are unprofessional. We know that they are not like that as they are the most professional people we know as it's on their culture already not to cheat or something like that. Let's just say that Akaho was the one who is unprofessional and scared to add defeats on his record that is why he decided to have that act that give embarrassment to the whole Japanese boxing community. I'd say that they aren't letting that one slide and will investigate about it.

[Japinat]

I think there will be no rematch because, according to Nonito Donaire[1], Akaho is already planning to retire after his fight against Casimero.

Good thing he realized that he cannot handle powerful punches anymore, but Donaire is always better than him because although it was clear that he can't carry the punches of Inoue, but still he choose to continue, this guy (AKaho) choose to make excuses and the result was in his favor.

Well, he really should. People won't be happy anymore having him on the ring with this kind of history he just made, he should be embarrassed of himself for pulling that kind of stunt and for robbing someone a supposed win instead of facing his consequence that Casimero was far beyond his limits. That he way, he could have retire with a peaceful mind and with respect from the industry.

[Fatunad]

No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

It is obvious that Akaho was hurt, it is just a matter of time on that round to putting Akaho on his knee but the referee to the rescue.  Another thing, if that was a true illegal blow, they could have made the ringside physician look at Akaho asap, but it took them several minutes to do so making me think that is indeed one of the plans of the officiating official to save Akaho when a thing like that happens. 

Let's not go in that discussion because if we say that the officiating officials are unfair and they favored Akaho, then we would've also said in general that Japanese officials in boxing organization are unprofessional. We know that they are not like that as they are the most professional people we know as it's on their culture already not to cheat or something like that. Let's just say that Akaho was the one who is unprofessional and scared to add defeats on his record that is why he decided to have that act that give embarrassment to the whole Japanese boxing community. I'd say that they aren't letting that one slide and will investigate about it.

Lets not generalize because thats not how Japanese behavior and traits which we know that they are indeed honest and its impossible that they would really play along on what Akaho been doing.
Ive seen on how many replays that it wasnt really that a solid back head blow or rather it hit up on the neck.The reaction time was too delay which it would really be giving you
suspicious thinking that it is really just pure acting. So this one ends up on no contest? So this ends up on having no match or record at all?
that guy is so fucking clever.

[AmoreJaz]

No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

It is obvious that Akaho was hurt, it is just a matter of time on that round to putting Akaho on his knee but the referee to the rescue.  Another thing, if that was a true illegal blow, they could have made the ringside physician look at Akaho asap, but it took them several minutes to do so making me think that is indeed one of the plans of the officiating official to save Akaho when a thing like that happens.  

Let's not go in that discussion because if we say that the officiating officials are unfair and they favored Akaho, then we would've also said in general that Japanese officials in boxing organization are unprofessional. We know that they are not like that as they are the most professional people we know as it's on their culture already not to cheat or something like that. Let's just say that Akaho was the one who is unprofessional and scared to add defeats on his record that is why he decided to have that act that give embarrassment to the whole Japanese boxing community. I'd say that they aren't letting that one slide and will investigate about it.

Lets not generalize because thats not how Japanese behavior and traits which we know that they are indeed honest and its impossible that they would really play along on what Akaho been doing.
Ive seen on how many replays that it wasnt really that a solid back head blow or rather it hit up on the neck.The reaction time was too delay which it would really be giving you
suspicious thinking that it is really just pure acting. So this one ends up on no contest? So this ends up on having no match or record at all?
that guy is so fucking clever.

we are now awaiting if the decision will be overturned after meticulous review of the recording. i am still on the fact that most japanese are honest people so hopefully if they see something was biased with the referee's decision, they should accept their mistakes. we are now waiting how they will rectify the bad decision if in case it was proven that akaho just saved himself from casimero's hands.

[goinmerry]

No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

It is obvious that Akaho was hurt, it is just a matter of time on that round to putting Akaho on his knee but the referee to the rescue.  Another thing, if that was a true illegal blow, they could have made the ringside physician look at Akaho asap, but it took them several minutes to do so making me think that is indeed one of the plans of the officiating official to save Akaho when a thing like that happens. 

Let's not go in that discussion because if we say that the officiating officials are unfair and they favored Akaho, then we would've also said in general that Japanese officials in boxing organization are unprofessional. We know that they are not like that as they are the most professional people we know as it's on their culture already not to cheat or something like that. Let's just say that Akaho was the one who is unprofessional and scared to add defeats on his record that is why he decided to have that act that give embarrassment to the whole Japanese boxing community. I'd say that they aren't letting that one slide and will investigate about it.

Who is to blame then? I know it's not a Japanese trait but it's clear that those involved are doing shit on that match.

You can't blame others if they thought something bad about how the fight turned out.

Akaho is a disgrace, and so are the officials and referess there. They are putting a negative image on the whole Japanese community.

[Vaculin]

No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

It is obvious that Akaho was hurt, it is just a matter of time on that round to putting Akaho on his knee but the referee to the rescue.  Another thing, if that was a true illegal blow, they could have made the ringside physician look at Akaho asap, but it took them several minutes to do so making me think that is indeed one of the plans of the officiating official to save Akaho when a thing like that happens. 

Let's not go in that discussion because if we say that the officiating officials are unfair and they favored Akaho, then we would've also said in general that Japanese officials in boxing organization are unprofessional. We know that they are not like that as they are the most professional people we know as it's on their culture already not to cheat or something like that. Let's just say that Akaho was the one who is unprofessional and scared to add defeats on his record that is why he decided to have that act that give embarrassment to the whole Japanese boxing community. I'd say that they aren't letting that one slide and will investigate about it.

Lets not generalize because thats not how Japanese behavior and traits which we know that they are indeed honest and its impossible that they would really play along on what Akaho been doing.
Ive seen on how many replays that it wasnt really that a solid back head blow or rather it hit up on the neck.The reaction time was too delay which it would really be giving you
suspicious thinking that it is really just pure acting. So this one ends up on no contest? So this ends up on having no match or record at all?
that guy is so fucking clever.

That's what I'm trying to say, let's just put Akaho's fate on the Japanese official's hands because I know they will investigate on it as Akaho brought embarrassment to the whole boxing community of Japan. We all know that they won't support that kind of tricks that will put the nation's name in jeopardy even if the person was one of their own. Nevertheless, we know that Casimero can still do a good job in this division and I hope he will be paired again early next year because the fight he had was a bit shorter than expected.

So this one ends up on no contest? So this ends up on having no match or record at all?

The match was of course recorded but it is on the expense of Casimero as he was now portrayed to be the bad guy who punched a boxer at the back of his head that leads to a no contest fight.

See it here: https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/421916

[mirakal]

No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

It is obvious that Akaho was hurt, it is just a matter of time on that round to putting Akaho on his knee but the referee to the rescue.  Another thing, if that was a true illegal blow, they could have made the ringside physician look at Akaho asap, but it took them several minutes to do so making me think that is indeed one of the plans of the officiating official to save Akaho when a thing like that happens. 

Let's not go in that discussion because if we say that the officiating officials are unfair and they favored Akaho, then we would've also said in general that Japanese officials in boxing organization are unprofessional. We know that they are not like that as they are the most professional people we know as it's on their culture already not to cheat or something like that. Let's just say that Akaho was the one who is unprofessional and scared to add defeats on his record that is why he decided to have that act that give embarrassment to the whole Japanese boxing community. I'd say that they aren't letting that one slide and will investigate about it.

Lets not generalize because thats not how Japanese behavior and traits which we know that they are indeed honest and its impossible that they would really play along on what Akaho been doing.
Ive seen on how many replays that it wasnt really that a solid back head blow or rather it hit up on the neck.The reaction time was too delay which it would really be giving you
suspicious thinking that it is really just pure acting. So this one ends up on no contest? So this ends up on having no match or record at all?
that guy is so fucking clever.

That's what I'm trying to say, let's just put Akaho's fate on the Japanese official's hands because I know they will investigate on it as Akaho brought embarrassment to the whole boxing community of Japan. We all know that they won't support that kind of tricks that will put the nation's name in jeopardy even if the person was one of their own. Nevertheless, we know that Casimero can still do a good job in this division and I hope he will be paired again early next year because the fight he had was a bit shorter than expected.

So this one ends up on no contest? So this ends up on having no match or record at all?

The match was of course recorded but it is on the expense of Casimero as he was now portrayed to be the bad guy who punched a boxer at the back of his head that leads to a no contest fight.

See it here: https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/421916

Right! Let's just stop from pointing our fingers because we all already know the truth and that Ryo Akaho is the one who deserves to get blamed for the little unprofessional act he pulled in front of the whole public that made the referee confused and declared the fight as a no contest. The crowd wasn't happy about what they saw either as they booed the fighters because that's not what they paid for.

[Fredomago]

No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

It is obvious that Akaho was hurt, it is just a matter of time on that round to putting Akaho on his knee but the referee to the rescue.  Another thing, if that was a true illegal blow, they could have made the ringside physician look at Akaho asap, but it took them several minutes to do so making me think that is indeed one of the plans of the officiating official to save Akaho when a thing like that happens. 

Let's not go in that discussion because if we say that the officiating officials are unfair and they favored Akaho, then we would've also said in general that Japanese officials in boxing organization are unprofessional. We know that they are not like that as they are the most professional people we know as it's on their culture already not to cheat or something like that. Let's just say that Akaho was the one who is unprofessional and scared to add defeats on his record that is why he decided to have that act that give embarrassment to the whole Japanese boxing community. I'd say that they aren't letting that one slide and will investigate about it.

Who is to blame then? I know it's not a Japanese trait but it's clear that those involved are doing shit on that match.

You can't blame others if they thought something bad about how the fight turned out.

Akaho is a disgrace, and so are the officials and referess there. They are putting a negative image on the whole Japanese community.

I go to that direction, Akaho's act and the officiating bodies who handle that fight is a disgrace to the entire Japanese community, I'm sure after this fight there would be reviews and corresponding actions to avoid things like this to happen, if Casimero won't get any change in that particular decision he might get a good fight after this incident.

He still has that caliber and a big threat to this division, with the hype happen to that last fight for sure he will gain additional attention
good still for him to bring another fight and maybe a good money fight.

[Taskford]

No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

Akaho is a very good actor to act that way. It seems he is afraid to Casimero's heavy punch. Well, it's very unfair having a no contest result because clearly Casimero dominate the ring. It is supposed to be his victory but it ended to a disappointing result. I feel bad for Casimero, obviously he did his best and prepared himself for this fight. Is it possible to have a rematch?

Casimero put everything to win this fight but like what you said, Akaho is a great actor and we all witness what happen I'm not sure if Akaho will take that chance giving Casimero a chance to bring him down, after tasting how hard those punches that Casiemro throw to him, I can say that aide from huge amount of money that might bring him into the negotiation table but nonetheless, he won't take that  route.

We all feel bad for Casimero because as you have said he put everything in training just to get back on this track for his career. But Akaho doesn't want to take the chance to get knockout in his own country so he just take the best route for him.

As for Casimero, I don't think he need to file a protest, just take it as it is and move on to the next fight in 122 lbs. Hopefully it will be in some undercard in the US, no need to go to the champions immediately, another tune up fight but this time it should be in the US soil so that he will get a good exposure again.

Most boxing sites are using the term "pretending to be hurt" in reference to Akaho.
It means, most audience also feel that Akaho just complained so the fight will be stopped and not favoring Casimero.
I don't think Casimero will ask for a re-match on this boxer. Better look for another worthwhile opponent.

Majority agree that Akaho became coward when he feel the power of Casimero and I doubt he still can get big fights after what happen. Promoters will not waste their money for lousy fighter since no one will watch his fight next time around.

Might be good for Casimero to step up since he show great performance and might he will get more big fights next year after that match.