Zero KYC tolerance gambling platforms

[makishart]

MintDice has no KYC and in addition to that has instant account creation. No e-mail needed with secret key URLs.

Are you sure about this? Mintdice has KYC policy https://www.mintdice.com/article/anti-money-laundering-know-your-customer-policy

There are some requirements for users to be asked for KYC verification. I think that you can read whole of article about that. It's pretty well explained by the article. Any gambling platforms have KYC policy for people who have been fulfilling some requirements that already mentioned on their policy or TOS.

[goinmerry]

^KYC procedure versus a non-reputable gambling casino, I still prefer the KYC casino, it feels safe for me with the KYC casino because I know KYC casino has jurisdictions to follow based on their licensing. I don't think that there is lose a lot of potentials, one of my examples is Roobet which from zero KYC until now required KYC procedures they have still many gamblers to play.  So I think that does not matter to them the most important is the reputation of the casino not the KYC procedure.

When it comes to the point that KYC is now a thing, it's good to just comply with it on considered reputable sites that are running for a long.

It's not the first time though that we are exposing our private data on a third-party service that's why we should manage the risks.

Besides, it's really possible that all crypto-gambling sites will have KYC but there should be a tier where KYC will just ask.

[khaled0111]

If your account gets hacked then you are on your own. No one is going to help. Use 2FA.

I think you missed the point. I wasn't talking about how to secure your account, that's another matter. I was talking about how to recover your account after it gets hacked. You won't be able to recover it unless you prove its ownership. You can easily do that if you have already verified your identity. You can then prove you are the same person by re-submitting your documents.

I am aware that not all people that gamble are actually very into cryptography in general, but there should be also an option to register an address which one could declare to the casino one has complete control over, and in case of hacking or loss of access, then a simple signature should be enough to prove one's identity and at the same time keeping the non-KYC model intact.

That's also an option but it will be worthless if you don't know how to properly secure the encryption key and how to store it in a safe place. It also require some technical knowledge that mst regular gamblers don't have.

[Hispo]

I am aware that not all people that gamble are actually very into cryptography in general, but there should be also an option to register an address which one could declare to the casino one has complete control over, and in case of hacking or loss of access, then a simple signature should be enough to prove one's identity and at the same time keeping the non-KYC model intact.

That's also an option but it will be worthless if you don't know how to properly secure the encryption key and how to store it in a safe place. It also require some technical knowledge that mst regular gamblers don't have.

I believe it is worth it to learn how to do it, specially if people wants to stay away from KYC.
It is easier than it seems and gamblers could even generate keys specifically for 2FA on their casinos and store them on their PC (without funds stored). In case the computer gets compromised and someone steals the keys, the attacker won't do anything, since there is no money in that wallet and it is highly unlikely they realize those keys were specifically created to authenticate one's account in casinos. They may think it is just an empty wallet.

[peter0425]

^KYC procedure versus a non-reputable gambling casino, I still prefer the KYC casino, it feels safe for me with the KYC casino because I know KYC casino has jurisdictions to follow based on their licensing. I don't think that there is lose a lot of potentials, one of my examples is Roobet which from zero KYC until now required KYC procedures they have still many gamblers to play.  So I think that does not matter to them the most important is the reputation of the casino not the KYC procedure.

When it comes to the point that KYC is now a thing, it's good to just comply with it on considered reputable sites that are running for a long.

it is mate , and also crypto gamblers must start listening to this call that gambling Online will be for KYC maybe some still not ask now but sooner they will all be , and that is what in online gambling future.

there should be a tier where KYC will just ask.

support in this part, KYC must be depend on the level of issue .

[LUCKMCFLY]

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I'm not advocating for making kyc mandatory but you raised a valid point! If your account get hacked or you lose access to it, how can you prove you are the real owner if you haven't verified your identity? Email address, wallet addresses and all that can be hacked too so it's not as solid proof as legal documents.
Despite how much I hate to admit it but identity verification does have some advantages.

sorry, I posted this on the wrong thread earlier and moved it here now.

Well the truth is I see your point of view and you are absolutely right, I don't see why it can't be taken that way, nobody likes to have their account hacked, and if a way to recover your account and funds is through has already done his KYC verification, the platform is forced to help that client who is totally legal with them, with a person who is totally anonymous, it is very difficult because the way to prove what is or is not is very difficult, with the documents is something else, it could be said that you can have a more preferential treatment and with more benefits, and it is not that people with KYC are more than the others, only that it is a way to make it easier.

[QueenVera]

Is KYC verification very important to crypto gambling websites or this has something to do with their regulations rule? Where can one gamble with zero verification requirements?

Lately KYC has become very essential for casinos so as to help regulate it's platform and to prevent every form of money laundering and criminality through their platform.
It is true most gamblers wants to stay anonymous while gambling, but most times, this very reason it's been misuesed and abused by some gamblers who try to divert stolen funds to these casinos.
In the past, casinos would never ask for a KYC not until it was made necessary by the gambling board as directed by government so as to monitor transactions safely on its platform.
I see no reason why people shy away from KYC especially when your intentions are pure and genuine.
Beside the casino isn't reviewing your identity to anyone except on the cases of criminal investigation.
There are basically few casinos that wouldn't ask for KYC initially or for little deposit but as time goes on or during withdrawal of some certain amount, you might in one way or the other be asked for KYC.

[ethereumhunter]

Is KYC verification very important to crypto gambling websites or this has something to do with their regulations rule? Where can one gamble with zero verification requirements?

Lately KYC has become very essential for casinos so as to help regulate it's platform and to prevent every form of money laundering and criminality through their platform.
It is true most gamblers wants to stay anonymous while gambling, but most times, this very reason it's been misuesed and abused by some gamblers who try to divert stolen funds to these casinos.
In the past, casinos would never ask for a KYC not until it was made necessary by the gambling board as directed by government so as to monitor transactions safely on its platform.
I see no reason why people shy away from KYC especially when your intentions are pure and genuine.
Beside the casino isn't reviewing your identity to anyone except on the cases of criminal investigation.
There are basically few casinos that wouldn't ask for KYC initially or for little deposit but as time goes on or during withdrawal of some certain amount, you might in one way or the other be asked for KYC.

Maybe if they don't want to do KYC, they can still look for casinos that don't require KYC to play gambling, especially crypto casinos. And we know there are still casinos like that. It only takes time before we can find casinos that don't require KYC and become comfortable places to gamble but we also have to be prepared if, one day, casinos ask us to do KYC. The government seems to want to know who are the people who use a lot of money to gamble and if they find suspicious activity, maybe the government will pressure casinos to ask their users to do KYC. This is one of the ways that the government, through casinos, finds out if someone is engaging in an activity that the casino does not allow, so they can prevent it before it happens.

[delfastTions]

Is KYC verification very important to crypto gambling websites or this has something to do with their regulations rule? Where can one gamble with zero verification requirements?

Lately KYC has become very essential for casinos so as to help regulate it's platform and to prevent every form of money laundering and criminality through their platform.
It is true most gamblers wants to stay anonymous while gambling, but most times, this very reason it's been misuesed and abused by some gamblers who try to divert stolen funds to these casinos.
In the past, casinos would never ask for a KYC not until it was made necessary by the gambling board as directed by government so as to monitor transactions safely on its platform.
I see no reason why people shy away from KYC especially when your intentions are pure and genuine.
Beside the casino isn't reviewing your identity to anyone except on the cases of criminal investigation.
There are basically few casinos that wouldn't ask for KYC initially or for little deposit but as time goes on or during withdrawal of some certain amount, you might in one way or the other be asked for KYC.

Maybe if they don't want to do KYC, they can still look for casinos that don't require KYC to play gambling, especially crypto casinos. And we know there are still casinos like that. It only takes time before we can find casinos that don't require KYC and become comfortable places to gamble but we also have to be prepared if, one day, casinos ask us to do KYC. The government seems to want to know who are the people who use a lot of money to gamble and if they find suspicious activity, maybe the government will pressure casinos to ask their users to do KYC. This is one of the ways that the government, through casinos, finds out if someone is engaging in an activity that the casino does not allow, so they can prevent it before it happens.

In principle, I really do not like the KYC procedure itself. 
Especially when an online casino or some other site requires KYC with your photo with a document, a date written on a piece of paper, or, accordingly, some video with your face from different angles.  Such perversions during the passage of KYC are generally disgusting to me.  And they are somewhat reminiscent of how criminals are fingerprinted during detention or photographed both in front and profile, next to a ruler measuring a person’s height.  In general, I am surprised that this procedure, invented by American bureaucrats with the support of stupid authorities, does not infuriate many people at all.  And such people will show that it seems to be normal and in the order of things. 

 But I think that mandatory KYC is a mockery of personality and just disgusting.

[Cling18]

Is KYC verification very important to crypto gambling websites or this has something to do with their regulations rule? Where can one gamble with zero verification requirements?

Lately KYC has become very essential for casinos so as to help regulate it's platform and to prevent every form of money laundering and criminality through their platform.
It is true most gamblers wants to stay anonymous while gambling, but most times, this very reason it's been misuesed and abused by some gamblers who try to divert stolen funds to these casinos.
In the past, casinos would never ask for a KYC not until it was made necessary by the gambling board as directed by government so as to monitor transactions safely on its platform.
I see no reason why people shy away from KYC especially when your intentions are pure and genuine.
Beside the casino isn't reviewing your identity to anyone except on the cases of criminal investigation.
There are basically few casinos that wouldn't ask for KYC initially or for little deposit but as time goes on or during withdrawal of some certain amount, you might in one way or the other be asked for KYC.

Maybe if they don't want to do KYC, they can still look for casinos that don't require KYC to play gambling, especially crypto casinos. And we know there are still casinos like that. It only takes time before we can find casinos that don't require KYC and become comfortable places to gamble but we also have to be prepared if, one day, casinos ask us to do KYC. The government seems to want to know who are the people who use a lot of money to gamble and if they find suspicious activity, maybe the government will pressure casinos to ask their users to do KYC. This is one of the ways that the government, through casinos, finds out if someone is engaging in an activity that the casino does not allow, so they can prevent it before it happens.

In principle, I really do not like the KYC procedure itself. 
Especially when an online casino or some other site requires KYC with your photo with a document, a date written on a piece of paper, or, accordingly, some video with your face from different angles.  Such perversions during the passage of KYC are generally disgusting to me.  And they are somewhat reminiscent of how criminals are fingerprinted during detention or photographed both in front and profile, next to a ruler measuring a person’s height.  In general, I am surprised that this procedure, invented by American bureaucrats with the support of stupid authorities, does not infuriate many people at all.  And such people will show that it seems to be normal and in the order of things. 

 But I think that mandatory KYC is a mockery of personality and just disgusting.

I was also asked to submit the KYC requirements when I was on a vacation and planned to withdraw my funds. I was actually surprised that they asked me to submit the KYC requirements when in fact, I have been playing on their site for several months and have withdrawal transactions already. It's a waste of time especially if they would ask you to write your name and the date accompanied by the name of their casino on a sheet of paper. I was on a vacation at that time and I was so disappointed because they should have asked me to comply with their KYC requirements as early as possible and not in the middle of the withdrawal process.

[ethereumhunter]

Is KYC verification very important to crypto gambling websites or this has something to do with their regulations rule? Where can one gamble with zero verification requirements?

Lately KYC has become very essential for casinos so as to help regulate it's platform and to prevent every form of money laundering and criminality through their platform.
It is true most gamblers wants to stay anonymous while gambling, but most times, this very reason it's been misuesed and abused by some gamblers who try to divert stolen funds to these casinos.
In the past, casinos would never ask for a KYC not until it was made necessary by the gambling board as directed by government so as to monitor transactions safely on its platform.
I see no reason why people shy away from KYC especially when your intentions are pure and genuine.
Beside the casino isn't reviewing your identity to anyone except on the cases of criminal investigation.
There are basically few casinos that wouldn't ask for KYC initially or for little deposit but as time goes on or during withdrawal of some certain amount, you might in one way or the other be asked for KYC.

Maybe if they don't want to do KYC, they can still look for casinos that don't require KYC to play gambling, especially crypto casinos. And we know there are still casinos like that. It only takes time before we can find casinos that don't require KYC and become comfortable places to gamble but we also have to be prepared if, one day, casinos ask us to do KYC. The government seems to want to know who are the people who use a lot of money to gamble and if they find suspicious activity, maybe the government will pressure casinos to ask their users to do KYC. This is one of the ways that the government, through casinos, finds out if someone is engaging in an activity that the casino does not allow, so they can prevent it before it happens.

In principle, I really do not like the KYC procedure itself. 
Especially when an online casino or some other site requires KYC with your photo with a document, a date written on a piece of paper, or, accordingly, some video with your face from different angles.  Such perversions during the passage of KYC are generally disgusting to me.  And they are somewhat reminiscent of how criminals are fingerprinted during detention or photographed both in front and profile, next to a ruler measuring a person’s height.  In general, I am surprised that this procedure, invented by American bureaucrats with the support of stupid authorities, does not infuriate many people at all.  And such people will show that it seems to be normal and in the order of things. 

 But I think that mandatory KYC is a mockery of personality and just disgusting.

Actually I also don't like KYC in casinos because I think I only play gambling for fun and even then, I don't do it every day so I think KYC in casinos is unnecessary. But maybe that doesn't apply to casino that have many gamblers because we have often seen many people who use a lot of money to gamble and can be said to gamble almost daily. This is what makes casinos try to implement casinos in their places of business to find out who they are.

As crypto users who want to remain hidden behind the scenes, we can't do anything because the government tries to control all businesses, especially the gambling business, because it is a billion dollar business. And I feel that it will be mandatory for all gamblers to comply with KYC procedures in the future when the government really takes this regulation seriously.

[Slow death]

Most casinos and or/bookmakers advertise that no KYS takes place. Unfortunately, we cannot take those promises for granted. What we see more and more often is that no KYC is requested for low amounts, but as soon as more money is won, the problems start. There are sites that perform a KYC when a player has registered, which is most fair, but I understand that you can lose a lot of potential customers with that. And there are also players who do not want to participate in a KYC procedure at all.

ya.ya.yo!

^KYC procedure versus a non-reputable gambling casino, I still prefer the KYC casino, it feels safe for me with the KYC casino because I know KYC casino has jurisdictions to follow based on their licensing. I don't think that there is lose a lot of potentials, one of my examples is Roobet which from zero KYC until now required KYC procedures they have still many gamblers to play.  So I think that does not matter to them the most important is the reputation of the casino not the KYC procedure.

the problem is that people don't know who owns the casinos, people don't know how their documents will be kept, so how will people be calm when they do KYC? how do you stay calm when you do KYC in a new casino, that you don't know who the owners are and where the company's headquarters are? And if they take your documents and sell them to some high-risk criminal (I'm talking about those sick criminals who kill without mercy, cut people's organs, commit atrocities), the police won't even want to know your story when they arrest you, they'll think that it was you who committed the crime and it may take years to prove your innocence

Actually I also don't like KYC in casinos because I think I only play gambling for fun and even then, I don't do it every day so I think KYC in casinos is unnecessary. But maybe that doesn't apply to casino that have many gamblers because we have often seen many people who use a lot of money to gamble and can be said to gamble almost daily. This is what makes casinos try to implement casinos in their places of business to find out who they are.

As crypto users who want to remain hidden behind the scenes, we can't do anything because the government tries to control all businesses, especially the gambling business, because it is a billion dollar business. And I feel that it will be mandatory for all gamblers to comply with KYC procedures in the future when the government really takes this regulation seriously.

if there weren't those damned thieves and money launderers it wouldn't be necessary to do KYC, but unfortunately due to money laundering casinos are forced to do KYC, the only thing I complain about is that casino owners are anonymous but customers can't being anonymous, that's what I don't think is fair, because it puts people's documents in danger, but I don't understand those who made these KYC laws how the hell didn't they think it's wrong that casino owners are anonymous but customers are not anonymous

[BobK71]

I am not in favor of KYC in crypto casinos. Because people now want to hide themselves and conduct gambling. There are many gamblers who are gambling occasionally and many of them will not be encouraged to do KYC. I think KYC should be maintained for those willing to conduct gambling with large amounts. For those who conduct gambling activities with small amount of assets KYC system is not suitable for them. One  thing is important that if there is any government restrictions regarding KYC then gambling must be followed according to the government rules and regulations.

[bitpotter]

I am not in favor of KYC in crypto casinos. Because people now want to hide themselves and conduct gambling. There are many gamblers who are gambling occasionally and many of them will not be encouraged to do KYC. I think KYC should be maintained for those willing to conduct gambling with large amounts. For those who conduct gambling activities with small amount of assets KYC system is not suitable for them. One  thing is important that if there is any government restrictions regarding KYC then gambling must be followed according to the government rules and regulations.

Agree with your opinion, as I am a small gambler, maybe every week I only bet around $20 to $30, that's a lot to say a big amount. With that money I can usually withdraw up to $50 and that's enough for me. So I really don't like KYC requirements in gambling and I'm more looking for sites that don't require it.

[piebeyb]

I am not in favor of KYC in crypto casinos. Because people now want to hide themselves and conduct gambling. There are many gamblers who are gambling occasionally and many of them will not be encouraged to do KYC. I think KYC should be maintained for those willing to conduct gambling with large amounts. For those who conduct gambling activities with small amount of assets KYC system is not suitable for them. One  thing is important that if there is any government restrictions regarding KYC then gambling must be followed according to the government rules and regulations.

Agree with your opinion, as I am a small gambler, maybe every week I only bet around $20 to $30, that's a lot to say a big amount. With that money I can usually withdraw up to $50 and that's enough for me. So I really don't like KYC requirements in gambling and I'm more looking for sites that don't require it.

if you don't like the KYC requirements of the casino you can leave it because usually every casino will ask gamblers to complete their KYC documents but you can look for decentralized casinos there may not be many out there right now because decentralized casinos are usually KYC free and it will probably be make gamblers comfortable

[ScamViruS]

Agree with your opinion, as I am a small gambler, maybe every week I only bet around $20 to $30, that's a lot to say a big amount. With that money I can usually withdraw up to $50 and that's enough for me. So I really don't like KYC requirements in gambling and I'm more looking for sites that don't require it.

Since you gamble with small amounts, your risk ratio is low, so you can gamble without KYC. And those casinos don't force you to do KYC either. But when you go to gamble with big amounts, you must look for a reputable casino for the security of your funds? And any reputable casino will tell you to do KYC, if you are not using that casino for any illegal purpose then doing KYC is not a big deal. And if you want to be more conservative with KYC, then Decentralized Casino is the right place for you.

[Dunamisx]

and if a way to recover your account and funds is through has already done his KYC verification, the platform is forced to help that client who is totally legal with them, with a person who is totally anonymous, it is very difficult because the way to prove what is or is not is very difficult, with the documents is something else, it could be said that you can have a more preferential treatment and with more benefits, and it is not that people with KYC are more than the others, only that it is a way to make it easier.

I will like to assume that KYC should be required only on account recovery purpose, take a look at the forum for instance, you will be required to input a username, email and create your password in which the email will only be verified if there's a need for account verification during lost of login details or hack related issues, the casinos can also make use of this or something close to, they will definitely safe the user's privacy when they only demanded for his email address and of which he should have the password and phone number used in creating the email address before using it.

[CryptoYar]

I am not in favor of KYC in crypto casinos. Because people now want to hide themselves and conduct gambling. There are many gamblers who are gambling occasionally and many of them will not be encouraged to do KYC. I think KYC should be maintained for those willing to conduct gambling with large amounts. For those who conduct gambling activities with small amount of assets KYC system is not suitable for them. One  thing is important that if there is any government restrictions regarding KYC then gambling must be followed according to the government rules and regulations.

In today's era, you need KYC verification everywhere. Just as no centralized exchange allows you to trade without KYC verification. In the same way, a casino that has taken a license from any country will not allow you to gamble. It doesn't matter how much money you want to gamble with, they just want to know who is behind that account and as always the same excuse money laundering.
What we can do is, do KYC verification only on few trusted websites and not everywhere. so that your data is limited to only few companies.

[safari88]

You only see gambling sites without KYC on a platform when you are playing with crypto. And even then you have no certainty whether you can continue to play anonymously. Especially nowadays many sites are a big fan of the implementation of the KYC system. An easy way to slow down certain processes. What is also very irritating is that many sites indicate that they do not use KYC and then start talking about the KYC after a larger profit. And gambling sites happily all get away with that.

[virasog]

Most casinos and or/bookmakers advertise that no KYS takes place. Unfortunately, we cannot take those promises for granted. What we see more and more often is that no KYC is requested for low amounts, but as soon as more money is won, the problems start. There are sites that perform a KYC when a player has registered, which is most fair, but I understand that you can lose a lot of potential customers with that. And there are also players who do not want to participate in a KYC procedure at all.

ya.ya.yo!

^KYC procedure versus a non-reputable gambling casino, I still prefer the KYC casino, it feels safe for me with the KYC casino because I know KYC casino has jurisdictions to follow based on their licensing. I don't think that there is lose a lot of potentials, one of my examples is Roobet which from zero KYC until now required KYC procedures they have still many gamblers to play.  So I think that does not matter to them the most important is the reputation of the casino not the KYC procedure.

I will also prefer to do a KYC and not play at a casino that is not asking for KYC but its reputation is doubtful. For me money is more important than hiding the identity. That's our personal point of view however i know a few gamblers who do not want to do the KYC no matter what.

Those people want to hide their identity and they would even risk playing at an unreputed casino to avoid the KYC. There can be a number of reasons for hiding identity, one commonly to not reveal their identity and another one to not trust these gambling sites which may misuse the KYC data.