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Good day, Crypto FAM. I found this interesting article that discusses the EU's desire to develop a cryptocurrency energy-efficiency grading system in order to encourage more environmentally friendly crypto systems. “ Just as their use has grown significantly, the energy consumption of cryptocurrencies has more. In harnessing the use of cryptocurrencies and other blockchain technologies in energy markets and trading, care must be taken to use only the most energy-efficient versions of the technology.” Do you think this would help mainstream adoption of cryptocurrencies? Original source: https://tokenist.com/eu-to-grade-cryptocurrencies-based-on-energy-consumption-report/
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October 18, 2022, 08:58:02 PM |
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If you read the article carefully, it talks about EU voicing the support for POS based coins, unlike POW. The major point of crypto, especially bitcoin and it's POW algo was to get rid of the middleman and make the coin fully decentralized and censorship resistant. This is not the case with POS coins
So mainstream crypto adoption or not. If the coins can be controlled or censored by the government, then the whole crypto thing won't make any sense.
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I do not think that any cryptocurrency that will be backed by the government or accepted by the government will have any form of proof of work because, in short, it gives individuals a greater degree of decentralization, and competitors can intervene if they do not like the government's decisions.
Therefore, proof of stake is the future if we want to see *environmentally friendly currencies* and not generate clean energies for crypto mining.
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Therefore, proof of stake is the future if we want to see *environmentally friendly currencies* and not generate clean energies for crypto mining.
And, as Ethereum has already started showing, with PoS it's very easy to get the crypto currency centralized and also under government surveillance and censorship. This opens the door of making crypto no better than CBDCs, all under the common good of protecting the planet, like crypto would be the only industry consuming electricity.
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If I'm not mistaken, there are a reports that UE says that bitcoin is not efficient as it uses or increase its use to like 40% this year alone. So I don't know if I'm going to believed this article or what.
Regardless, I think everyone should leave crypto's mining business, and I don't understand why government are really putting pressure on the miners to for those who make the hardware to be energy efficient. There are other industries that are even uses more energy than crypto mining and that's where they should focus.
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October 20, 2022, 08:32:37 PM |
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This is an attempt to discredit bitcoin and push altcoins to replace it in the future, under the excuse of being environmentally friendly, while in fact we know what centralized organizations like EU wants is to have control over the financial global system.
I believe we don't need more altcoins, there are too many already. And the most important cryptocurrency among all, that is bitcoin, already supplies the necessities of individuals who want to leave the traditional financial system with all their funds or a part of it.
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October 20, 2022, 09:13:15 PM |
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Regardless, I think everyone should leave crypto's mining business,
So if every one leaves crypto mining business, then how is Bitcoin network supposed to work? How will the new blocks get confirmed/ Don't you think this will be bending to Government's demands?
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October 21, 2022, 10:58:02 PM |
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For publicity, yes. But if you chop and got through with their actual intention, they're wanting to remove what cryptos are really for. At the beginning of this technology, it's really for decentralization and the governments like in EU are trying to get back the power that has been taken by this technology. It seems encouraging to see that they're stepping on it but for someone that sees and look at what they really are up for, this doesn't look good as we understand the importance of securing the network through PoW and it being decentralized.
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October 29, 2022, 11:34:42 PM |
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If you read the article carefully, it talks about EU voicing the support for POS based coins, unlike POW. The major point of crypto, especially bitcoin and it's POW algo was to get rid of the middleman and make the coin fully decentralized and censorship resistant. This is not the case with POS coins
So mainstream crypto adoption or not. If the coins can be controlled or censored by the government, then the whole crypto thing won't make any sense.
For sure the government never does anything for nothing. They know very well how passionate and discrete crypto enthusiast seems to be and as such, they put out a notion that could have been helpful with a motive bringing some level of control or regulations to the system. But that's not cryptos especially bitcoin which is proof of work (POW) based works is it. Making it POS is just some shift towards the CBDC and that is so fiat in a different form. I think cryptocurrency will take care of itself as its always done in the past.
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November 03, 2022, 09:05:52 AM |
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If you read the article carefully, it talks about EU voicing the support for POS based coins, unlike POW. The major point of crypto, especially bitcoin and it's POW algo was to get rid of the middleman and make the coin fully decentralized and censorship resistant. This is not the case with POS coins
So mainstream crypto adoption or not. If the coins can be controlled or censored by the government, then the whole crypto thing won't make any sense.
For sure the government never does anything for nothing. They know very well how passionate and discrete crypto enthusiast seems to be and as such, they put out a notion that could have been helpful with a motive bringing some level of control or regulations to the system. But that's not cryptos especially bitcoin which is proof of work (POW) based works is it. Making it POS is just some shift towards the CBDC and that is so fiat in a different form. I think cryptocurrency will take care of itself as its always done in the past. And it this happens then we will give total control to the government and it's not going to be very good. And yes as you have said, this is as close to CBCD. And I doubt that bitcoin will bend just to give in to the pressures. Government can do whatever they want, mostly to altcoins, ETH is a good case and maybe more will to follow. And I don't think there will be a consensus in between. We might see the brunt of the argument though for years to come but I don't see bitcoin will move to PoS as it will defeat it's purpose.
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Let's be honest, 99% of cryptocurrencies aim to make their developers rich, so mining using Proof of work will not work for most of them and it also needs a strong motivation to get someone to buy a mining device and then all the coins will work on Proof of Stake or any other model. Bitcoin and a few other cryptocurrencies may keep working.
Therefore, the concern about energy consumption will be related to Bitcoin only.
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I'm not sure if this measure will help. I think the diversity of the market is very important in this matter. Demand grows, supply grows, this increases demand even more, and so on. The appearance of new exchanges and wallets is announced, and for example Telegram CEO is preparing his exchange and wallet, HitBTC has released its new wallet, and even GameStop. The world of crypto is getting wider day by day and this will sooner or later spread the influence of Crypto.
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Good day, Crypto FAM. I found this interesting article that discusses the EU's desire to develop a cryptocurrency energy-efficiency grading system in order to encourage more environmentally friendly crypto systems.
“Just as their use has grown significantly, the energy consumption of cryptocurrencies has more. In harnessing the use of cryptocurrencies and other blockchain technologies in energy markets and trading, care must be taken to use only the most energy-efficient versions of the technology.”
Do you think this would help mainstream adoption of cryptocurrencies?
If I don't know any better, I'll say this is by some means to pump and dump some coins. That's just what's what's to be the effect of such initiative and grading system. Its not rocket science to understand that, comes advancement with more and more minings going on, the more energy consumption is required. As it is, we've got coins that are far ahead and the coins would be down graded or sized in other to promote some other coin, hence adoption and there you have some pump/dump manipulation in our cryptospace. Theee isn't any need for marketing manipulation as that's what this could bring. It doesn't help if you asked, just another way to make money for the whales.
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Do you think this would help mainstream adoption of cryptocurrencies?
They are limiting what we can currently do for mining. They can't be successful in this plan. People are competing so hard to get their hands on BTC and they want to force others to use limited energy or move towards green crypto. As seen in the past, other projects except BTC aka Altcoins have failed significantly. So creating some other crypto to replace BTC won't be so easy.
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Good day, Crypto FAM. I found this interesting article that discusses the EU's desire to develop a cryptocurrency energy-efficiency grading system in order to encourage more environmentally friendly crypto systems. “ Just as their use has grown significantly, the energy consumption of cryptocurrencies has more. In harnessing the use of cryptocurrencies and other blockchain technologies in energy markets and trading, care must be taken to use only the most energy-efficient versions of the technology.” Do you think this would help mainstream adoption of cryptocurrencies? Original source: https://tokenist.com/eu-to-grade-cryptocurrencies-based-on-energy-consumption-report/Looking deep down one can smell a sinister plan to gain control of certain cryptocurrency in the disguise of provision of boosting energy efficiency grading system. BTC decentralization is actually pulling a torn on the government centralized system of economy and they are trying to use every means possible to gain access., It's obvious one of the beauty of bitcoin is in its PoW and that's why the government's through the EU is mounting pressure in support for PoS based coins just in attempt to limit the utility of BTC but it's just a failed attempt in futility from the start.
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Good day, Crypto FAM. I found this interesting article that discusses the EU's desire to develop a cryptocurrency energy-efficiency grading system in order to encourage more environmentally friendly crypto systems. “ Just as their use has grown significantly, the energy consumption of cryptocurrencies has more. In harnessing the use of cryptocurrencies and other blockchain technologies in energy markets and trading, care must be taken to use only the most energy-efficient versions of the technology.” Do you think this would help mainstream adoption of cryptocurrencies? Original source: https://tokenist.com/eu-to-grade-cryptocurrencies-based-on-energy-consumption-report/You need to understand that government do not like bitcoin as they have no control over bitcoin. They can't print bitcoin just as they print dollars and fiat money. Telling and propagating that bitcoin is not environment friendly, is just an excuse to stop the usage of bitcoin or put a dent on bitcoin adoption. The real motive is to stop people using bitcoin and crypto. They will never succeed and one day they will have to accept bitcoin as a legal currency. They can't stop bitcoin being the mainstream currency.
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The thing is, there is mainstream and 'mainstream'
BTC specifically and most cryptocurrencies (but there were exceptions since the first years) are meant to be mainstream in the sense of being used by people and business to pay for goods and services and have their saves and investments in an easier and securer way, bypassing many of the functions of traditional financial institutions
When the press or government officers talk about crypto becoming 'mainstream' they mean being adopted for these same financial institutions and becoming a fully regulated specialized tool meant to keep away from the general public i.e. 'just for professional traders and brokers'
The whole point of this grading system seems to be making of the features of the better adapted altcoins for the second type of 'mainstream' the main point to define the 'quality' of the coin, a prime example of propaganda, using true, verifiable data to lead people to wrong conclusions
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February 27, 2023, 07:09:45 AM |
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I do not think that any cryptocurrency that will be backed by the government or accepted by the government will have any form of proof of work because, in short, it gives individuals a greater degree of decentralization, and competitors can intervene if they do not like the government's decisions.
Therefore, proof of stake is the future if we want to see *environmentally friendly currencies* and not generate clean energies for crypto mining.
I support what you are saying. Most countries are still working on a way to control cryptocurrency or bitcoin, which we know that most of them cannot happen and it is impossible, it is possible that in the long run, they will ride the trend that cryptocurrency has. That's why it's not the US now, they're making an issue of POS on centralized platforms if I'm not mistaken, because this is the buzzing issue and news in crypto news so far. But this is only a U.S. country.
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February 27, 2023, 07:08:00 PM |
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This opens the door of making crypto no better than CBDCs, all under the common good of protecting the planet, like crypto would be the only industry consuming electricity.
This is really strange that there are industries and factories which use too much electricity and also pollute the environment, but crypto mining is targeted as the only industry to consume the most electricity which is not true from my point of view. I think countries are using this as a medium of an excuse to prohibit the adoption of bitcoin and crypto across the globe, however, this false and baseless propaganda will not help them achieve their goals.
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March 11, 2023, 08:58:57 AM |
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Let's be honest, 99% of cryptocurrencies aim to make their developers rich, so mining using Proof of work will not work for most of them and it also needs a strong motivation to get someone to buy a mining device and then all the coins will work on Proof of Stake or any other model. Bitcoin and a few other cryptocurrencies may keep working.
Therefore, the concern about energy consumption will be related to Bitcoin only.
- I believe what you said that most developers only want to collect heaps of money, because most developers don't care about that in the community of this crypto business field. Also, when we say bitcoin mining, the first thing that immediately comes to our mind is that your electricity bill should be cheap or else it is not guaranteed that you will lose money in the end. So I really agree with what you said, thanks
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