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October 24, 2022, 09:17:39 AM
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Was that extension paid with Bitcoin?

From everything that can be read, that hotel does not accept Bitcoin as a means of payment, and this last extension was apparently paid in the classic way. Therefore, your question is completely illogical, because if the extension was paid for with Bitcoin, then the hotel would have accepted the offer offered by the OP.

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October 25, 2022, 11:32:57 AM
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Yes, my stay till the 3rd-4th of January 2023 was paid in bitcoin (with a third-party website). They don't seem particularly interested in my offer (though they agree with our arguments) and so far are still evaluating it and they did not give a final answer. Apparently, they will only accept it if I convert it to a national currency like GBP or EUR. But as I said, they did not provide yet a final answer and the manager is not even willing to negotiate it face-to-face, though he is here all day during the week, from 9 am till 5 pm. Anyway, since I was escaping a terrible situation to do with the social state and psychiatrists, this doesn't surprise me too much. Thank God, bitcoin can save us in such terrible situations. And I may end up in El Salvador having a great time and writing a book of memories. "Memories of a 100% maximalist bitcoin enthusiast (creator of the Bitcoin Morse https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143780.0)".

My latest business offer to them today was: 440 nights starting on 4th of January, which means check-out on the 19th of Match of 2024 (the Father's Day in Portugal) for the Bitcoin price in GBP as of today. Which, means about 40 GBP a night, about half the price per night, roughly).

Anyway. Whatever. Very, very, very typical ;-)



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October 25, 2022, 06:27:39 PM
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It was a good deal and the reason why hotel management didn't accept the bitcoin as payment because it is not a legal tender so the person who receive the payment has to pay the taxes for it which is possibly a lot higher than the payment in the traditional way. If the management is interested in fame then they should go for this deal no matter its profitable or not because this is going to bring lot of attention about their hotel all around the world especially among crypto community.

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October 25, 2022, 07:50:04 PM
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Apparently, they will only accept it if I convert it to a national currency like GBP or EUR ..
That doesn't make much sense,
they only accept bitcoin, if you convert it to <whatever-fiat> first?

That's just ...like ..not accepting bitcoin, isn't it?  Roll Eyes
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October 26, 2022, 10:59:06 AM
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Their final answer was today. They said no, to my offer. And they did not offer anything else and did not show any will to negotiate it.
At last, they simply said: "No, sorry".

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October 26, 2022, 11:47:42 AM
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Their final answer was today. They said no, to my offer. And they did not offer anything else and did not show any will to negotiate it.
At last, they simply said: "No, sorry".
Sorry to hear that your offer was finally rejected, so are you going to checkout on the 4th of January 2023, or are you just going to pay them in another currency and extend your stay untill 2024, but i don't think that would make much sense because i feel you wanted to stay that long if you'll be paying with BTC (1 BTC) the whole time, except i am wrong with my thoughts. Are are you going to try some other hotel?

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October 26, 2022, 02:11:16 PM
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It is a great deal if they will accept the payment in bitcoin because it will make the hotel benefit from your long stay. The hotel will never forget you until someone else does something more than this as a customer. If they don't accept bitcoin ,you can convert your BTC to their fiat currency and pay for 440 days which you are willing to stay not to deprive you from your plans.

 If it was in my country then you will be the hotels best customer throughout your stay because its a good way of promoting the hotel. Sorry to hear that the manager didn't accept your negotiation, I love your idea of promoting BTC.

I hope you are OK with the period of days you paid with. BTC for because its not upto 440 nights. The only option is for you to be on the same page with the management, since the country is not bitcoin friendly, is converting your BTC to their fiat currency.

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October 26, 2022, 10:16:18 PM
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Their final answer was today. They said no, to my offer. And they did not offer anything else and did not show any will to negotiate it.
At last, they simply said: "No, sorry".

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Hello good morning everyone! I am having a great time now in my holidays in South-West England.
I booked till the 31st of the current month, so my check-out will be that day, on Halloween 2022!

Bitcoin was literally what is allowing me to survive and escape the terrible circumstances and injustice I was living on (EURONEWS).

Today I did tell at the reception that I would like a face-to-face with the management to discuss the possibility of paying for another 440 nights, so till the 14th January 2024, for a whole bitcoin (at the current price, 18-19/October/2022). If rejected, I could always go for booking it the same way I did these 13 nights of... Peace. 
Okay.. It's been 9days now O.P  posted this thread, so i will like to ask, is ther any update yet? Was your offer to pay for another 440 nights accepted or rejected? And by the way, what is the current hotel rate per night? Because I think that's one thing that needs to be considered before thinking of paying for a whole 440 which its supposed to have been discounted. Because 1 BTC is currently at $20k, of which $20,000/440 = $45 per night..
So my question now is, how much are you paying per night? Because you paying 1BTC for 440 nights, then that means the rate you are been charged is $45 per night.

 
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I think initially he said of booking for 14 nights and was planning to book for 440 nights at the price of 1 btc with the current price. But the offer was rejected meaning he might go to another hotels for booking.

How i wish the offer was accepted, this would have been smart moved
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I don't know what to say, 440 days in a hotel is a bit strange for me, but obviously the OP has his own theory of the ideal vacation, in this case an extended one. In addition, it seems that he wants that event to become historic, and maybe enter the Guinness Book of Records as the longest stay in a hotel paid with Bitcoin.



Pablo Iglesias? The Spanish politician? I don't know what he has to do with bitcoin. You made me search the internet and I don't see anything.

I think that it has nothing to do with Bitcoin, but with what the OP mentioned next to his name, which is the so-called UBI (Universal Basic Income). As far as I know (and you probably know better) they, with their ideas based on ideologies, almost disappeared from the political scene after they got the chance to do something. I know how they work because we have an identical party in my country (they literally have the same name) and since they took over the capital, in a little over a year they managed to turn it into one big garbage dump.


I am also not sure how can one spend so much time in single hotel.

I would be more willing to spend it at different places, different cities and enjoy the different meals every day and night if I had to spend that much money.

We can always create history that way too. In fact that will cause versatile events to happen throughout let’s say England and show everyone the love of bitcoin.

The niche here does not seem to be enjoyment but creating some crazy event (?).

I don’t know I might be wrong.

But whatever you do, just enjoy since you gonna throw precious coin today which could be worth 100k by 2024.
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October 30, 2022, 12:11:00 AM
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~snip~
I am also not sure how can one spend so much time in single hotel.

I would be more willing to spend it at different places, different cities and enjoy the different meals every day and night if I had to spend that much money.

We can always create history that way too. In fact that will cause versatile events to happen throughout let’s say England and show everyone the love of bitcoin.

The niche here does not seem to be enjoyment but creating some crazy event (?).

I don’t know I might be wrong.

But whatever you do, just enjoy since you gonna throw precious coin today which could be worth 100k by 2024.

I think in the case of OP he was looking for a bit more stability, so I don't think they would appreciate moving around very often.

But I get your point, in terms of just holidays or having a good time, it might make sense to move around a bit.
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October 30, 2022, 08:18:12 AM
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I must say that the hotel is cheap enough, paying about $49 per night is so cheap. This might mean that you will not be given food and some other perks, which makes it unwise to me. In the first place, why are you staying further in a hotel? If not for fame or other important reasons, then it's not worth it. I believe this is the time for business-minded Bitcoin holders to hold on to their coins because of the rainy day coming in 2024.

Don't squander your reserve at a low price, be wise.

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October 30, 2022, 09:05:27 AM
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Their final answer was today. They said no, to my offer. And they did not offer anything else and did not show any will to negotiate it.
At last, they simply said: "No, sorry".

- remotemass

I think you made a pretty good offer. It's their loss if they reject or just ignore it. At least they could've negotiated about the length and price. It could be a big advertisement worldwide, I'm pretty sure all news outlets around the world would make this news. It could be a win-win situation for both Bitcoin and that hotel but they just didn't realize any effects of this. Well, you tried, enjoy your holiday. Maybe one day another hotel would accept that kind of offer.

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October 30, 2022, 09:28:36 AM
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Their final answer was today. They said no, to my offer. And they did not offer anything else and did not show any will to negotiate it.
At last, they simply said: "No, sorry".

- remotemass

Read your story with some interest. I actually might know of at least a few interested Bitcoin-based counteroffers in my country of residence for hotel stays of that long -- with perhaps an added incentive that your Bitcoin would be quite welcome in the local businesses there. It's not terribly far from you in West UK, just need to cross the channel (assuming you have at least similar rights of stay in the EU as in the UK). So if you're interested in pursuing this hit me up with a PM. I'm happy to even just point you in the right direction.

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October 30, 2022, 06:28:41 PM
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I think the proposal of 440 nights for 1 BTC is a very reasonable offer financially (although I don't know if how similar it is to £18k, based on how much the hotel is per night and whether there are discounts for long-term stays). The hotel doesn't even have to risk it: if they don't believe in Bitcoin and the sum corresponds to payments for 440 nights, they can simply accept BTC and convert to GBP immediately. Or, they could take it and keep as their funds in BTC, likely enjoying profits by the end of the op's stay.
Oh wait, I just read the follow-up that it's about half of the price per night from the actual cost. Well, in that case, I wouldn't expect them to risk it, to be honest, so I am not surprised they said no.

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