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Brothers and sisters is it possible for PC keyboard to get compromised and reveal your private keys to hackers? How are they doing it? I read a comment on Reddit about a guy that lost his keys to hackers through a keyboard hack, is it in form of Trojan or Malware?.
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October 19, 2022, 06:38:31 PM Last edit: October 19, 2022, 06:50:55 PM by Cantsay Merited by DdmrDdmr (3), nakamura12 (1) |
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Brothers and sisters is it possible for PC keyboard to get compromised and reveal your private keys to hackers? How are they doing it? I read a comment on Reddit about a guy that lost his keys to hackers through a keyboard hack, is it in form of Trojan or Malware?.
Its possible for hackers to monitor your computer activity through some malware and even possibly get access to your private keys. And even if they fail to gain access to your private keys they might still be able to change your wallet address (this is for users that do copy and paste wallet address). Some trojan/malware could be able to change the wallet address to the hackers address and if you proceed with the transaction without noticing the change of address that could lead to you losing your funds. This is a thread created by @loycev explaining how to lose you funds by copying and pasting How to lose your Bitcoins with CTRL-C CTRL-VHere's also another case of clipboard malware Warning! Be careful when you copy and paste bitcoin address from Electrum wallet
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This article is old, and there may be a reason since then for it be less feasible, but back in 2016 it could be done on a wireless keyboard. https://www.hackread.com/wireless-keyboard-hacking-keysniffer/In 2019 they were still talking about it in some articles: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/03/how-a-wireless-keyboard-lets-hackers-take-full-control-of-connected-computers/Still talking about it in 2020: https://wyzguyscybersecurity.com/can-your-wireless-keyboard-be-hacked/And in 2022: https://www.more.net/news/can-a-wireless-keyboard-be-hacked-5712I’d say that it’s seemingly feasible on wireless devices, although it’s way more likely to happen through software, as pointed above (with way more attack vectors over your data, mnemonics, addresses, or whatever).
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October 19, 2022, 07:53:52 PM |
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Keyboard hack? If it's a malware/virus it might be a key logger or clipboard malware or similar. I don't know i just heard about. it. Although it is not really impossible, actually hacking wireless device is possible too including keyboards. The article linked below might be a good read. Although wireless keyboards use encryption for sending information back to the devices they are paired with, sometimes that encryption is not well executed. This lack of security can lead to the attacker injecting packets into the unencrypted communication.
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October 19, 2022, 08:08:16 PM |
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Hackers can practically do anything but one thing must be meet before they can be able to carry out their actions and that is there must be negligence, error or complete irresponsibility from the victims part.
Yes it's Likely that hackers can get hold of those very sensitive emotions and they have several ways of doing so. Personally I have seen many keyboard application dropping ads on social media some of this keyboard originated from scammers and have processes that may demand you giving it full permission. This could be how they can monitor and get assess to sensitive information
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October 19, 2022, 08:44:49 PM |
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The most common scenario is through a keylogger, which is some form of surveillance tool that is used to monitor every keystroke you make on your device. The recorded keystrokes which may include the victim's log in credentials are then sent to the hacker.
A keylogger can either be in form of a software or hardware. But for the hardware to be used, the hacker has to physically access your device and install it.
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October 19, 2022, 09:55:21 PM |
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I think the keyboard itself doesn't have such a thing to reveal private keys to hackers unless you bought a keyboard that has an extra device that can record any keystroke you did using the keyboard.
I think it would be safer if you are going to type any private key or going to backup the private key always use a device that doesn't have an internet connection to avoid them(I mean never connect it online).
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October 19, 2022, 10:00:47 PM |
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If we are talking about real keyboard (device) hacking, I guess anything is possible if the hacker had physical access to your device. If we consider that there are USB cables that can steal coins from hardware wallets, we can assume that something similar can exist for keyboard hacking as well. For example, someone can create a USB device that connects between the keyboard and the computer that will register everything that is typed on the keyboard and record it in internal memory or wirelessly send the data to the hacker. If this device is plugged into your computer while you are typing, it can record all the characters that you type. And if the hacker has access to this data, he or she will be able to recover your passwords or private keys.
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October 19, 2022, 10:08:56 PM |
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I'm not sure if it's possible that the hacker will be able to have that fully remote control of your keyboard. But how they're going to gain access to the private key if it's not stored on your PC? It's better to be like that and keep your keys offline. And basically, with the description of what you've said, it's likely the clipboard malware that gives a different address whenever you're going to copy-paste your address when you're about to make a transaction and transfer it to your own addresses so, instead of yours, the hacker's address is the one appearing. If you're not keen enough and you don't check the address before you send it, you'll send it to them wrongly.
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October 19, 2022, 10:09:37 PM |
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Aside from what Cantsay mentioned, keyloggers would be one of the things that could have caused that. Did that guy have his PC remotely controlled by someone? It is possible that a third party planted a remote keylogger to that guy's PC. Never let a random technician just get remote access to your PC. They usually use software like Anydesk.
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October 19, 2022, 10:19:51 PM |
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If we are talking about real keyboard (device) hacking, I guess anything is possible if the hacker had physical access to your device. If we consider that there are USB cables that can steal coins from hardware wallets, we can assume that something similar can exist for keyboard hacking as well. For example, someone can create a USB device that connects between the keyboard and the computer that will register everything that is typed on the keyboard and record it in internal memory or wirelessly send the data to the hacker. If this device is plugged into your computer while you are typing, it can record all the characters that you type. And if the hacker has access to this data, he or she will be able to recover your passwords or private keys.
What you said is actually true but I think he wasn't referring to when the hacker has close contact with the HODLer; your points are self explicable and could be possible only if they're together. What he meant was if it were possible that privkeys were lost to some phishing site, just for either saving an auto display passphrase or however... In their external keyboards?! Though, I learnt that there are a lot of softwares that could be injected....but still, this will need the hacker close by. Hacking is not that an easy process though, but let's be careful out there; when it comes to the software part of navigation. Sandra 💇
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October 19, 2022, 10:43:38 PM |
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Aside from what Cantsay mentioned, keyloggers would be one of the things that could have caused that. Did that guy have his PC remotely controlled by someone? It is possible that a third party planted a remote keylogger to that guy's PC. Never let a random technician just get remote access to your PC. They usually use software like Anydesk. If someone asks for your Anydesk access, that was too easy for them to hack your computer but not sure if this still works if you turn off your computer as it changes everything when you open it. I'm also worried about this because I often use this application (and many people do this remote access). Well, whatever it is hackers have their ways on how to hack our PC without noticing it, they are smart and smarter than normal PC users. We are too unlucky if we become their target.
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October 19, 2022, 10:50:26 PM |
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A keyboard is an input device. Be it hardware or software, they still serve the same purpose and sends the same binary data set to the computer or electronic device. A hacker might not necessarily have to take control of your keyboard to know your private key or seed phrase. Having a compromised system is all it takes as, there is the possibility of a malware which works by phishing for your codes on some apps without you even knowing. The next you know, you've got all your funds sent out and you can't trace or recall when you ever became that careless in handling your gadget or had any friend or neighbour to handle your gadget and still, your funds are gone. Its simply the work of a malware, mirroring your codes to the hacker.
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Brothers and sisters is it possible for PC keyboard to get compromised and reveal your private keys to hackers? How are they doing it? I read a comment on Reddit about a guy that lost his keys to hackers through a keyboard hack, is it in form of Trojan or Malware?.
There are many ways in which your private key may be compromised and intercepted by hackers, but if we are talking about keyboards specifically, then the most common ways to achieve that is either through different keyloggers or clipboard malware. Keylogger may register all the keys that you press on your input device and send to a hacker specific sequences of keystrokes that look like a random private key. It can also be used to steal other personal information, such as passwords to your bank account, email, or an account on an exchange. Clipboard malware may steal the information that you put into the clipboard by pressing Ctrl+C. It either filters and sends your private key directly to a hacker, or it can replace inserted information with anything the hacker wants. For example, it can detect that you copied a bitcoin address to send coins to, and this malware just replaces this address with the hacker's one.
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Most likely, the OP was asking about keyboard hacking. And this is possible if it is wireless. Thanks to DdmrDdmr for providing links and new information. As the saying goes, "live and learn." Being paranoid, I learned a lot about the possibility of hacking wireless devices, and as you can see from the articles, everything can happen even without the fault of users. An attacker can be in the zone of our Bluetooth device in order to carry out one of several attacks. Therefore, despite some convenience of using wireless devices, it is still recommended to work with a wired keyboard and mouse, which I changed at the speed of light. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Brothers and sisters is it possible for PC keyboard to get compromised and reveal your private keys to hackers? How are they doing it? I read a comment on Reddit about a guy that lost his keys to hackers through a keyboard hack, is it in form of Trojan or Malware?.
Just stay away from malware. One of the best way you can stay away from malware is by not using your device to access what could give your device malware. Examples are clicking on ads and unauthorized emails which can lead to a means malware can be installed on your device. People are just accessing online as they like without avoiding ads. Also other ways are the files you transfer from another device to your device which can contain malware. There are different types of malware, a Trojan or Rootkit are malware that can be able to steal information from your device. Malware can be used by hackers to monitor the activities on your device, the apps you click on and all what you are doing on your device can be revealed through malware. If you store your seed phrase or private key on your device, or you are using an online wallet, this type of malware can be used to compromise your computer and reveal the seed phrase or private key. It can also be used to know your login details through the password saver or manager on your browser. Malware like a well designed Trojan horse is capable of revealing your 2FA. You device can be monitored. Keyloggers can be used to know what you typed from your keyboard (but not able to know the ones you input through virtual keyboard which is the reason some wallet has it) I will advice you to know how to prevent yourself from these malware which is simple and most important.
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October 20, 2022, 12:12:02 PM |
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Brothers and sisters is it possible for PC keyboard to get compromised and reveal your private keys to hackers? How are they doing it? I read a comment on Reddit about a guy that lost his keys to hackers through a keyboard hack, is it in form of Trojan or Malware?.
I really can't accertain it's possibility, but I don't think this will easily be possible with a regular keyboard unless it's a wireless keyboard. One way I know crypto can be stolen is changing of wallet address, which can be done using short keys like Ctrl+v without cross checking the address been sent. Generally I always advise the use of paid antivirus from trusted and reputable softwares.
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October 20, 2022, 01:22:04 PM |
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Brothers and sisters is it possible for PC keyboard to get compromised and reveal your private keys to hackers? How are they doing it? I read a comment on Reddit about a guy that lost his keys to hackers through a keyboard hack, is it in form of Trojan or Malware?.
Yes it's possible when key logging malwares are installed in your system by clicking on some phishing links which is why it's advisable never to click on links you see on the sites because it could be dangerous to you.As this virus is now in your system and whenever you type some password or seeds phrases it give hackers or scammers direct access what you are typing and leaking your information to them . This chart explain how it actually works : ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2FwMqcVH38%2Fimages-22.png&t=665&c=1IcwKGFvFIx8iQ) So this is why adviced never click on these links as your system will not be able to detect these spywares and your personal information is being tracked by them without even you knowing about it so when you type sensitive information they have access to it.
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Turning off your PC would just temporarily close the connection between you and the other computer if I can recall correctly. This is why many scam busters in Youtube tend to advice their victims to uninstall AnyDesk completely, since there were "scammers" claiming to be a legitimate technician that would ask for a remote access to your PC. I partly use AnyDesk to my freelance work, but then I would uninstall it once it is not needed anymore. Might be a too paranoid of a move, but it would be better for me to stay safe.
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Commercial antivirus software can only do so much to avoid these threats because most of them are designed to be as discreet as possible. Until they are caught in the act by AV software, they can carry out their malicious activities without being detected. All it takes is one bad software or email attachment to infect your computer with malware that could cause serious damage. In order to avoid these kinds of situations and make your Bitcoins or other cryptocurrency even more secure than it is now, first you should use a hardware wallet. A hardware wallet is similar to a software wallet, but unlike it, hardware wallets cannot be easily hacked (as of yet) and they are also immune to keylogging software. In a nutshell, hardware wallets are one of the most secure ways of storing your Bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies for many reasons. The main reasons for that are that a hardware wallet can not be hacked remotely and, like I have said before, it is immune to all keylogging software and other malicious scripts. Of course, you may bring your hardware wallet with you wherever you want and you will always have instant access to your Bitcoins and other altcoins stored in it.
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