My Advise to Forum members on PMs offers

[Odusko]

This thread is born out of my personal experience and observations on PM offers on this forum.
For the past few weeks back I have received various offers through personal messages on this forum, asking me to rent out my signature, avatar, and personal text space to promote their brand on this forum so I went into research to access the risk and the benefits that will come with such offers. And I thought of dropping my views on PM offer here on the beginner and help section to help beginners and older members that may receive such offers through PM!

MY FINDINGS ON PM OFFERS
Advantages of PM offer:
1: Pm offer to rent your signature and avatar space is high paying than signatures campaign managed by a forum manager in most cases but not in all cases.
2: PM offer may be long term contract like 2 years offer
3: some offer to pay in advance but this is a rear situation it doesn't happen in most cases.

 Disadvantages of PM offer
1: possible promotion of scam projects that will destroy your reputation in this forum.
2: possibility of not getting paid since you are not under the management of any manager, or using an escrow.

Conclusion:
Newbie and other forum members should be careful and always do a due diligence investigation about any offer through you receive through your PMs as that is one of the ways some companies both legit and scam companies approach forum members to promote their project on this forum and i think for the sake of your forum reputation it is better you only enrolled on legitimate projects.

[Z-tight]

This 'advice' can't be for newbies, they can't rent out their signature space because they can't set one, and they also cannot use an avatar, most of these privileges are for ranks of Full Member's and above, i know Member and Jr member rank can add a signature, but with limited design, and i don't feel anybody will pm member's of that rank to rent their spaces.

These offers are mainly for reputable member's, some of whom offer their spaces for rent in the services section, this is a non-issue by the way, and a member who takes up any offer of advertisement, either through PM or in a signature campaign run by a bounty manager has to research about what they are advertising, and fix a payment method that rules out the possibility of not getting paid for a long time.

[Lucius]

For the past few weeks back I have received various offers through personal messages on this forum, asking me to rent out my signature, avatar, and personal text space...

In that case, you can be considered a very important person on the forum, because I personally have not received a single offer of a similar type in the past few weeks. However, every business offer should be considered, and every PM that may be suspicious can be reported to admins.

possibility of not getting paid since you are not under the management of any manager, or using an escrow.

You can be unpaid even if the offer is public, which is the case with some bounty campaigns that do not have funds in escrow. Risk always exists, and it's all about how much someone's reputation is worth, so if you agree to promote something for $20 a week, and it then turns into a scam, then it's your fault that you didn't refuse such an offer.

I'm not saying that payrate should always be the deciding factor, but I'd rather promote something I believe in for free than risk some cheap offer that could cost me my reputation at any moment.

[_act_]

Who is going to offer newbies such offer? I mean signature space rentage request? I think that kind of offer would be given not even to just a better poster on this forum, but to one of the most known and recognized person.

Your advice to newbies should be about how to rank up and also how they can protect their account.

2: possibility of not getting paid since you are not under the management of any manager, or using an escrow.

Only promotion of scam projects is what is possible, but I think such offers should only be accepted from a well know organization that has good reputation to certain level already. About the payment, how will you be put on signature of a company that has not paid you? If they can not pay due to lack of trust, they can escrow the fund. We have escrow service on this forum.

[hugeblack]

This advice cannot be for n newbies because they cannot wear a signature and therefore the lowest rank that these offers may receive is the full member, but what is the point of creating this topic?

Rarely does an account have unique writing style that companies have to pay specifically to rent out their ad space.
Thus, scam may be the only motive if you receive such offers.

[nakamura12]

I wouldn't say that this is suitable for newbies. Newbies can't use signature space so what you advise won't really work for newbies. This time my signature space is not available for other campaigns since it is used for rollbit as everyone can see but during my time when I didn't join any for quite some time, I never received PMs like that but rather received PMs from the same forum user about casinos asking if I am interested in turnkey online casino development services which I ignore since the sender is newbie.

[Plaguedeath]

Thanks @OP, now I learn newbie rank account can wear a signature space and get paid for high amount based on the agreement with the project owner or campaign manager

I think before you're talking about that's advantages, are you have offered someone about your signature space to get paid in high price? or are you know who's offer that via PM and get higher payout than the normal campaign payment? talking without any proof or based on your own experience is doesn't make sense.

[Odusko]

Thanks @OP, now I learn newbie rank account can wear a signature space and get paid for high amount based on the agreement with the project owner or campaign manager

Hey   stop being sarcastic here, sorry if i used the term Newbies as a point of reference to the messages am trying to make, there is no doubt the fact that the thread already passed the information am trying to passed and if you read through the entire body of this post, you will discover i pointed out and mentioned both newbie and old members. But i don't understand why most members that are commenting right now are missing the fact and the point that a newbie today will become a quality forum member in the future and what is between a newbie vs legendary member is the time and knowledge they gather that accumulated into their activities on the forum that make the difference.

Conclusion:
Newbie and other forum members should be careful and

I hope you read down to this point to be clear on the point I stressed out here.

[Plaguedeath]

Thanks @OP, now I learn newbie rank account can wear a signature space and get paid for high amount based on the agreement with the project owner or campaign manager

Hey   stop being sarcastic here, sorry if i used the term Newbies as a point of reference to the messages am trying to make, there is no doubt the fact that the thread already passed the information am trying to passed and if you read through the entire body of this post, you will discover i pointed out and mentioned both newbie and old members. But i don't understand why most members that are commenting right now are missing the fact and the point that a newbie today will become a quality forum member in the future and what is between a newbie vs legendary member is the time and knowledge they gather that accumulated into their activities on the forum that make the difference.

Conclusion:
Newbie and other forum members should be careful and

I hope you read down to this point to be clear on the point I stressed out here.

Alright, can you tell me which user is offering his signature space for high price or you're the one who offer that?

I know there's few members in this forum wear a signature space about some projects but their name doesn't listed on the spreadsheet, but we're don't know how much the payment and which side is actually offer that.

You're just giving an assumption without a legit proof here, IMO campaign managers will just skip your application if you PM them or you could be blacklisted since you're wasting their time to read your messages.

[DdmrDdmr]

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I’m not really acquainted with these offers through PM (I personally recall one at most). I’d have thought that they were made in relation to running campaigns on the forum, but if I’ve interpreted I correctly, the offers you have received through PM were not (no associated campaign thread).

Q1) Is that so? (no associated campaign thread)

Q2) Do they have at least an Ann thread here or alike?

What I’m trying to get at here, is to get an idea of whether this publicity has an associates a discussion framework within the forum or not of any kind.

[Z-tight]

You're just giving an assumption without a legit proof here, IMO campaign managers will just skip your application if you PM them or you could be blacklisted since you're wasting their time to read your messages.

I have a feeling you don't understand what op is talking about, they aren't talking about member's sending pm's to bounty managers. On this forum there are members who advertise that their spaces are up for rent, and some that do not even make such advertisement but are approached through pm if they are willing to rent their spaces.

It may or may not be a company that already has a signature campaign, it could even be a member who wants to promote something here, but the terms of the agreement is between the member and whosoever approached them to rent out their spaces. An example is this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5304549.0

[Iroh]

I highly doubt that this was born out of your personal experience.
Admittedly, it’s slightly possible for you to receive a business offer through a PM, I think your chances are extremely slim but then you claim to have received several offers, so I may be wrong

I do not think offers to rent out signature and avatar space are as plenty as you would have us believe and very few hero and legendary members get such requests. Your write up has no information and gives no value to newbies and beginners on the forum.

On your disadvantages,
1. If you do a proper research, you would know scam projects to stay away from.
2. I think a reputable and genuine project would pay for services rendered to remain reputable and in good standing.

But it’s always good to put it out there on the need to do your own research on offers and practically anything you come across on the forum and on the web.

[zasad@]

For several years, I was offered to advertise several suspicious DeFi projects. These projects have probably already closed due to reduced demand. And if I agreed, I would have received negative reviews.
If some sugnature campaigns close after a few weeks, then it is very difficult to hope for long-term contracts. Most likely your account will be used in fraud.

[RILWAN]

You are not alone in this as some members send personal message with their offers, alot of pms are send but most time the offers come from scam prohects that want to introduce their site here but their dont want to come out clean, so i will advise tou stay off them even account sellers too they usually send tgeir offer through personal messages before diverting you to telegram for the final scam.

[Darker45]

This will depend on who makes the offer. If it is an untrusted newbie, then that's immediately a red flag. But if it's an untrusted newbie who's willing to put payment funds in a reputable escrow, then it might be legit. But there is also a need to take a look at the company or service that is to be promoted.

Also, it is possible that an offer comes from a known campaign manager here. I know, for example, that there are signature and avatar slots that are offered through PM even though the same is also being posted on the services board. Others might only be offered through PM and recommendations.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

Sending PM to offer your service, your open position to work for someone, for any company is prohibited by the forum.

Rules say it is not allowed and if receivers of your PM report you, you will be banned temporarily.

Depends on how many PMs you sent and how serious, how often you sent them, your ban will be shorter or longer. Not all receivers will report the senders but if they report you, ban is coming.

29. Sending unsolicited PMs, including but not limited to advertising and flood, is not allowed.

[pooya87]

I've had at least one encounter of this kind and if my memory servers it was during the 2017 shitcoin mania where I received a PM (as a legendary member who have been bashing these shitcoin makers!) to help advertise a shitcoin they were trying to scam people with and get paid in that shitcoin no less
Suffice it to say that the answer they received was my middle finger.

[lovesmayfamilis]

OP, judging by how often you get promotional offers, you're one of the lucky ones. I only receive threats from desperate cheaters and offers to remove negative tags. You somewhat contradict what the forum suggests in the rules. Sending private messages is not the best rule of forum etiquette. On the contrary, the user should be suspicious, and it is not recommended that they follow the suggested links.
Let's not give hope to users, and even more so to beginners, by the fact that one day they will receive a profitable offer in the PM. Your correction that the newcomer will become a legend in the future is correct, but for this, he needs to go a long way, and of course, he will be able to figure everything out later.
I agree, and I know of cases where the managers of two highly paid subscription companies offered participation to some users. But these were very rare cases, and the people themselves were of high rank.
But from your signature, it looks like you're still picking the best deal. Good luck!

[aysg76]

Q1) Is that so? (no associated campaign thread)

Q2) Do they have at least an Ann thread here or alike?

What I’m trying to get at here, is to get an idea of whether this publicity has an associates a discussion framework within the forum or not of any kind.

I don't think so they will be having an ANN thread here on the forum as they are directly trying to contact people and in most cases these are scam projects trying to promote themselves here on the forum but personally I haven't received any such PM and don't know about how they work but it can be estimated that what are their actual intentions.The legit projects would go through campaign manager only and find really good participants for promotion unlike these attempts.

I've had at least one encounter of this kind and if my memory servers it was during the 2017 shitcoin mania where I received a PM (as a legendary member who have been bashing these shitcoin makers!) to help advertise a shitcoin they were trying to scam people with and get paid in that shitcoin no less
Suffice it to say that the answer they received was my middle finger.

At that time there were hundred of projects trying to raise funds and in the lore they see you as legendary rank member and if you accepted the offer it would have helped them to promote their shitcoin and make people fool but you did what was right and this is what they deserve in reality.

[Frankolala]

This thread is born out of my personal experience and observations on PM offers on this forum.
For the past few weeks back I have received various offers through personal messages on this forum, asking me to rent out my signature, avatar, and personal text space to promote their brand on this forum so I went into research to access the risk and the benefits that will come with such offers. And I thought of dropping my views on PM offer here on the beginner and help section to help beginners and older members that may receive such offers through PM!

MY FINDINGS ON PM OFFERS
Advantages of PM offer:
1: Pm offer to rent your signature and avatar space is high paying than signatures campaign managed by a forum manager in most cases but not in all cases.
2: PM offer may be long term contract like 2 years offer
3: some offer to pay in advance but this is a rear situation it doesn't happen in most cases.

 Disadvantages of PM offer
1: possible promotion of scam projects that will destroy your reputation in this forum.
2: possibility of not getting paid since you are not under the management of any manager, or using an escrow.

Conclusion:
Newbie and other forum members should be careful and always do a due diligence investigation about any offer through you receive through your PMs as that is one of the ways some companies both legit and scam companies approach forum members to promote their project on this forum and i think for the sake of your forum reputation it is better you only enrolled on legitimate projects.

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