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November 06, 2022, 11:30:58 PM
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So they chooses a hard hitting fighter in David Avanesyan and so Crawford will be tested here. Nevertheless, we could see a war in the initial opening and then Crawford taking over and uses his jab to pot shop Avanesyan.

I read that David Avanesyan is a popular welterweight boxer in Europe, specifically in the United Kingdom.

No way a boxer will become popular if their credentials are not good. Although Terence Crawford is considerably having a big name here, it doesn't mean that all advantages are on his side against Avanesyan.

This will be a good match for Crawford and a good test fight before facing Spence in the future, if possible.

Although Crawford is indeed superior, but it is true that David Ava cannot be underestimated either.
Of course Ava will have her own strategy to face Crawford in this fight.
I hope so too, I'm enthusiastic and confident that Crawford can get through this fight and keep moving forward.
I hope that the match with Spence will actually happen, because so many are looking forward to it.

It's true that this David Avanesyan is not an easy opponent, and he got some impressive KO's in his record but we shouldn't forget the reason on why Crawford chose this David over the top contenders of welterweight namely Ortiz Jr. and Ennis. Crawford haven't fought any boxers since last year and he'll be going a year without any fights this coming November 20. I don't he have any intentions to have his first loss without having a chance to fight Spence for a unification fight, that said, this is just a mere tune-up fight but with a much challenging opponent.

well, we will see the power of crawford here. and see if he is indeed ready for the most anticipated fight with spence jr. maybe, these 2 camps are testing the waters first before their big fight, which is understandable. not only for the boxer but also for the promoters. because they want to be sure what they're getting into if the money split is big deal on the table.

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November 06, 2022, 11:53:23 PM
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well, we will see the power of crawford here. and see if he is indeed ready for the most anticipated fight with spence jr. maybe, these 2 camps are testing the waters first before their big fight, which is understandable. not only for the boxer but also for the promoters. because they want to be sure what they're getting into if the money split is big deal on the table.

No. There is no testing of the waters on both Crawford or Spence.

Their anticipated fight failed because of some politics-related and some serious issues they are not disclosing.

Crawford now moves on and just needs to win at every of his fights without pushing now on a fight against Spence.
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November 07, 2022, 01:57:38 AM
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Out of nowhere the name David Avanesyan came. This is one lucky guy. Even if he is defeated in this match, which is most likely to happen, he will definitely cherish the moment that he is facing against the great Terence Crawford. He'll be proud of this for the rest of his life. Of course he could even be the luckiest man if he upsets Crawford. But looking at the odds, it seems nobody is really expecting him to win. He's got 7.00 against Crawford's 1.07.
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November 07, 2022, 04:06:13 AM
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So they chooses a hard hitting fighter in David Avanesyan and so Crawford will be tested here. Nevertheless, we could see a war in the initial opening and then Crawford taking over and uses his jab to pot shop Avanesyan.

I read that David Avanesyan is a popular welterweight boxer in Europe, specifically in the United Kingdom.

No way a boxer will become popular if their credentials are not good. Although Terence Crawford is considerably having a big name here, it doesn't mean that all advantages are on his side against Avanesyan.

This will be a good match for Crawford and a good test fight before facing Spence in the future, if possible.

Although Crawford is indeed superior, but it is true that David Ava cannot be underestimated either.
Of course Ava will have her own strategy to face Crawford in this fight.
I hope so too, I'm enthusiastic and confident that Crawford can get through this fight and keep moving forward.
I hope that the match with Spence will actually happen, because so many are looking forward to it.

It's true that this David Avanesyan is not an easy opponent, and he got some impressive KO's in his record but we shouldn't forget the reason on why Crawford chose this David over the top contenders of welterweight namely Ortiz Jr. and Ennis. Crawford haven't fought any boxers since last year and he'll be going a year without any fights this coming November 20. I don't he have any intentions to have his first loss without having a chance to fight Spence for a unification fight, that said, this is just a mere tune-up fight but with a much challenging opponent.

well, we will see the power of crawford here. and see if he is indeed ready for the most anticipated fight with spence jr. maybe, these 2 camps are testing the waters first before their big fight, which is understandable. not only for the boxer but also for the promoters. because they want to be sure what they're getting into if the money split is big deal on the table.


Nope, I don't believe that's the case. Boxing fans wants the fight and they already have the whole idea how much this match could make for all of them.
Nobody is understanding these after Crawford told the media that there is nothing in their way to let this fight happen. Also, it should be now or never, while they are still in their prime.
Boxing fans are now getting antsy as they saw a glimpse of the Pacquiao - Mayweather fight in 2015.
And this guy right here is obviously will not match against Crawford.

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November 07, 2022, 04:31:08 AM
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Out of nowhere the name David Avanesyan came. This is one lucky guy. Even if he is defeated in this match, which is most likely to happen, he will definitely cherish the moment that he is facing against the great Terence Crawford. He'll be proud of this for the rest of his life. Of course he could even be the luckiest man if he upsets Crawford. But looking at the odds, it seems nobody is really expecting him to win. He's got 7.00 against Crawford's 1.07.
I don't think he's lucky Cheesy it looks like this fight happen because Crawford cherry pick Avanesyan, not Avanesyan itself who want to have a fight with Crawford. This can be an excuse for Crawford to not fight with Spence, I don't know if their fight (Crawford vs Spence) is postponed or cancelled, but if their fight will happen in the future, Crawford is the one who will in trouble since he's not young anymore. He's currently 35 years old, while Spence is 32 years old.

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November 08, 2022, 01:50:11 AM
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Out of nowhere the name David Avanesyan came. This is one lucky guy. Even if he is defeated in this match, which is most likely to happen, he will definitely cherish the moment that he is facing against the great Terence Crawford. He'll be proud of this for the rest of his life. Of course he could even be the luckiest man if he upsets Crawford. But looking at the odds, it seems nobody is really expecting him to win. He's got 7.00 against Crawford's 1.07.
I don't think he's lucky Cheesy it looks like this fight happen because Crawford cherry pick Avanesyan, not Avanesyan itself who want to have a fight with Crawford. This can be an excuse for Crawford to not fight with Spence, I don't know if their fight (Crawford vs Spence) is postponed or cancelled, but if their fight will happen in the future, Crawford is the one who will in trouble since he's not young anymore. He's currently 35 years old, while Spence is 32 years old.

Then Avanesyan is therefore luckier. If he is not the one who is trying hard looking for ways to fight the popular and talented Crawford, then it is opportunity that is knocking on his door. He is the luckiest man. Others at his level could only dream of it. Now he is sharing the limelight with one of the best pound for pound boxers of his time.

I think Crawford is the one who's more eager to face Spence. It's just that there were problems along the way. I cannot find any reason why Crawford would go for one Avanesyan than Spence.
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November 08, 2022, 03:38:01 PM
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well, we will see the power of crawford here. and see if he is indeed ready for the most anticipated fight with spence jr. maybe, these 2 camps are testing the waters first before their big fight, which is understandable. not only for the boxer but also for the promoters. because they want to be sure what they're getting into if the money split is big deal on the table.

No. There is no testing of the waters on both Crawford or Spence.

Their anticipated fight failed because of some politics-related and some serious issues they are not disclosing.

Crawford now moves on and just needs to win at every of his fights without pushing now on a fight against Spence.

The situation is different now because Bud already talked about what really happened and why the fight didn't happen unlike from what it's expected to be. I'm just waiting on Spence or Al Haymon's statement regarding Crawford's statement, it'll be interesting for sure because Crawford revealed some facts.

If I were Crawford, I won't face either Oritz Jr. or Ennis regardless of any criticism that people will throw and let Spence handle them if he can, just to give back the favor back as it's already clear that Spence and Al are just waiting for him to be much older and weaker before they try and discuss the unification.

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November 09, 2022, 10:10:18 PM
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Out of nowhere the name David Avanesyan came. This is one lucky guy. Even if he is defeated in this match, which is most likely to happen, he will definitely cherish the moment that he is facing against the great Terence Crawford. He'll be proud of this for the rest of his life. Of course he could even be the luckiest man if he upsets Crawford. But looking at the odds, it seems nobody is really expecting him to win. He's got 7.00 against Crawford's 1.07.
I don't think he's lucky Cheesy it looks like this fight happen because Crawford cherry pick Avanesyan, not Avanesyan itself who want to have a fight with Crawford. This can be an excuse for Crawford to not fight with Spence, I don't know if their fight (Crawford vs Spence) is postponed or cancelled, but if their fight will happen in the future, Crawford is the one who will in trouble since he's not young anymore. He's currently 35 years old, while Spence is 32 years old.

Then Avanesyan is therefore luckier. If he is not the one who is trying hard looking for ways to fight the popular and talented Crawford, then it is opportunity that is knocking on his door. He is the luckiest man. Others at his level could only dream of it. Now he is sharing the limelight with one of the best pound for pound boxers of his time.

As the saying goes, it's better to be lucky than good (although David has a good record). But I guess as you described it, he was lucky enough to be pick by Crawford for his next fight.

I think Crawford is the one who's more eager to face Spence. It's just that there were problems along the way. I cannot find any reason why Crawford would go for one Avanesyan than Spence.

It's because he has been criticized before for facing B-level fighter. So steps up the plate, fight Porter and beat him bad. Now, it's time for unification fight with Spence as it is brewing for years already. Unfortunately, the fight is not going to happen now, to many conflicting reports. But at least Crawford has tell his side of the story, and Crawford is silent about it.

But in any case someone is interested, both of them are going back in forth in their social media:

https://twitter.com/ErrolSpenceJr

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November 10, 2022, 03:45:03 PM
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I think Crawford is the one who's more eager to face Spence. It's just that there were problems along the way. I cannot find any reason why Crawford would go for one Avanesyan than Spence.

It's because he has been criticized before for facing B-level fighter. So steps up the plate, fight Porter and beat him bad. Now, it's time for unification fight with Spence as it is brewing for years already. Unfortunately, the fight is not going to happen now, to many conflicting reports. But at least Crawford has tell his side of the story, and Crawford is silent about it.

But in any case someone is interested, both of them are going back in forth in their social media:

https://twitter.com/ErrolSpenceJr

Still not enough to clean and wipe their name from Crawford's sudden statements, it's been days already since Crawford did it, yet Al and Spence are still quite about it. I don't either expect that Spence will be the one who is stepping up because he won't say anything, not under Al's blessings.

Crawford's time just got wasted for waiting nothing. Clearly, he was played and thought that things would be much easier without Bob.

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November 11, 2022, 11:01:59 AM
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I think Crawford is the one who's more eager to face Spence. It's just that there were problems along the way. I cannot find any reason why Crawford would go for one Avanesyan than Spence.

It's because he has been criticized before for facing B-level fighter. So steps up the plate, fight Porter and beat him bad. Now, it's time for unification fight with Spence as it is brewing for years already. Unfortunately, the fight is not going to happen now, to many conflicting reports. But at least Crawford has tell his side of the story, and Crawford is silent about it.

But in any case someone is interested, both of them are going back in forth in their social media:

https://twitter.com/ErrolSpenceJr

Still not enough to clean and wipe their name from Crawford's sudden statements, it's been days already since Crawford did it, yet Al and Spence are still quite about it. I don't either expect that Spence will be the one who is stepping up because he won't say anything, not under Al's blessings.

Crawford's time just got wasted for waiting nothing. Clearly, he was played and thought that things would be much easier without Bob.

Yes, his response is just vague and you can sense that he can't answer anything or at least held some in this twitter account.

Unlike Crawford, no holds barb, he is telling everything on his side, maybe not all though, but still you can read between the lines, as who wanted the fight to happen and who's side is trying to make this a one side affair, all the money goes to them.

And yeah, good advise by someone within the PBC camp that Crawford didn't name. For sure he knows that they will do anything and make it hard for Crawford to agree. All the money that is going to be offered to him will be less that he expected for this kind of big fight.

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November 11, 2022, 11:26:32 AM
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Out of nowhere the name David Avanesyan came. This is one lucky guy. Even if he is defeated in this match, which is most likely to happen, he will definitely cherish the moment that he is facing against the great Terence Crawford. He'll be proud of this for the rest of his life. Of course he could even be the luckiest man if he upsets Crawford. But looking at the odds, it seems nobody is really expecting him to win. He's got 7.00 against Crawford's 1.07.
I don't think he's lucky Cheesy it looks like this fight happen because Crawford cherry pick Avanesyan, not Avanesyan itself who want to have a fight with Crawford. This can be an excuse for Crawford to not fight with Spence, I don't know if their fight (Crawford vs Spence) is postponed or cancelled, but if their fight will happen in the future, Crawford is the one who will in trouble since he's not young anymore. He's currently 35 years old, while Spence is 32 years old.

He is a European champion and did have a good record to begin with. Maybe you can call him lucky because he will definitely have a good paycheck, but still he has to work very hard if he wanted to stop Crawford because it is going to take a lot from him, he is now book as 7:1 underdog.

Nevertheless, there is nothing he can do even if he lose this fight. Crawford is one of the best champion in this division and it could be a an honor for a EU champion like him to be suddenly on the biggest spotlight.

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November 11, 2022, 11:46:13 AM
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Nevertheless, there is nothing he can do even if he lose this fight. Crawford is one of the best champion in this division and it could be a an honor for a EU champion like him to be suddenly on the biggest spotlight.


He maybe was a champion but he was not part of the top list of a champion where Spence and Crawford belong, that's why it's understandable if people will not think that he is not a good opponent as Crawford is just a celebrated champion. Well, upset is possible but I don't see one against Crawford.

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November 11, 2022, 03:36:20 PM
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I think Crawford is the one who's more eager to face Spence. It's just that there were problems along the way. I cannot find any reason why Crawford would go for one Avanesyan than Spence.

It's because he has been criticized before for facing B-level fighter. So steps up the plate, fight Porter and beat him bad. Now, it's time for unification fight with Spence as it is brewing for years already. Unfortunately, the fight is not going to happen now, to many conflicting reports. But at least Crawford has tell his side of the story, and Crawford is silent about it.

But in any case someone is interested, both of them are going back in forth in their social media:

https://twitter.com/ErrolSpenceJr

Still not enough to clean and wipe their name from Crawford's sudden statements, it's been days already since Crawford did it, yet Al and Spence are still quite about it. I don't either expect that Spence will be the one who is stepping up because he won't say anything, not under Al's blessings.

Crawford's time just got wasted for waiting nothing. Clearly, he was played and thought that things would be much easier without Bob.

Yes, his response is just vague and you can sense that he can't answer anything or at least held some in this twitter account.

Unlike Crawford, no holds barb, he is telling everything on his side, maybe not all though, but still you can read between the lines, as who wanted the fight to happen and who's side is trying to make this a one side affair, all the money goes to them.

And yeah, good advise by someone within the PBC camp that Crawford didn't name. For sure he knows that they will do anything and make it hard for Crawford to agree. All the money that is going to be offered to him will be less that he expected for this kind of big fight.

Like I said, Spence cannot act alone without Al's orders or blessing as they couldn't afford to make mistakes these days because they are already under fire. Honestly though, being silent after what Crawford said clearly mean that they are guilty about it which I bet they didn't expect that Crawford would suddenly do that.

Crawford was tired on keeping all the news by himself that's why he let himself explode with facts. That news didn't surprise me at all because it was already clear who needs to be blamed, what we wanted is a confirmation though. Surely, Al Haymon will make the fight more impossible after this incident.

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November 12, 2022, 11:40:00 PM
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Nevertheless, there is nothing he can do even if he lose this fight. Crawford is one of the best champion in this division and it could be a an honor for a EU champion like him to be suddenly on the biggest spotlight.


He maybe was a champion but he was not part of the top list of a champion where Spence and Crawford belong, that's why it's understandable if people will not think that he is not a good opponent as Crawford is just a celebrated champion. Well, upset is possible but I don't see one against Crawford.

He is a European Champion, not in the top 5, but definitely in the top 10 of the welterweight division.

Crawford goes on to say though that no one wanted to take a fight with him and so he goes with David here. Although we have heard that Ennis and Ortiz Jr should be recognized as his potential fight but who knows, maybe again boxing politics behind make this fight impossible.

So he chooses Avanesyan as his next opponent, for tuneup for a bigger fight for next year.

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November 13, 2022, 11:40:22 AM
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Nevertheless, there is nothing he can do even if he lose this fight. Crawford is one of the best champion in this division and it could be a an honor for a EU champion like him to be suddenly on the biggest spotlight.


He maybe was a champion but he was not part of the top list of a champion where Spence and Crawford belong, that's why it's understandable if people will not think that he is not a good opponent as Crawford is just a celebrated champion. Well, upset is possible but I don't see one against Crawford.

He is a European Champion, not in the top 5, but definitely in the top 10 of the welterweight division.

Indeed and Avanesyan has his time in the WBA welterweight spotlight when he defeats Charlie Navarro for the vacant WBA interim welterweight title and defended it from Shane Mosley via unanimous Decision way back in 2016. He was then elevated as a Regular welterweight champion when the supposed fight  deal with Keith Thurman fall apart making Thurman Super Champion.  Sadly it is short lived for Avanesyan being the regular Champion when he failed to defend his title against Lamont Peterson  losing via close UD. [1]

Crawford goes on to say though that no one wanted to take a fight with him and so he goes with David here. Although we have heard that Ennis and Ortiz Jr should be recognized as his potential fight but who knows, maybe again boxing politics behind make this fight impossible.

So he chooses Avanesyan as his next opponent, for tuneup for a bigger fight for next year.

It is also possible that Crawford will take the path of lesser risk since I also think it isn't worth taking a huge risk when a possible unification fight may happen next year.



[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Avanesyan

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November 13, 2022, 11:44:52 AM
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So he chooses Avanesyan as his next opponent, for tuneup for a bigger fight for next year.

I hope that's the real purpose, and that big fight next year would really happen. There's no other big fight for him but to fight the winner of the Spence vs Thurman fight, so he should take it easy and be ready for the challenge. I will hope that Thurman will win so Crawford would always get the opportunity to have that big fight.

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November 13, 2022, 12:06:25 PM
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He is a European Champion, not in the top 5, but definitely in the top 10 of the welterweight division.

Crawford goes on to say though that no one wanted to take a fight with him and so he goes with David here. Although we have heard that Ennis and Ortiz Jr should be recognized as his potential fight but who knows, maybe again boxing politics behind make this fight impossible.

So he chooses Avanesyan as his next opponent, for tuneup for a bigger fight for next year.
I think either Crawford or Spence are ducking each other lol, we don't know which is right and which is wrong. It's odd to see Crawford announce his opponent first rather than Spence, moreover the fight between Spence vs Thurman still not official yet.

IMO in the end both Crawford and Spence will fight since there's many fans and boxing enthusiast really want it happen.

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November 13, 2022, 02:19:13 PM
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Out of nowhere the name David Avanesyan came. This is one lucky guy. Even if he is defeated in this match, which is most likely to happen, he will definitely cherish the moment that he is facing against the great Terence Crawford. He'll be proud of this for the rest of his life. Of course he could even be the luckiest man if he upsets Crawford. But looking at the odds, it seems nobody is really expecting him to win. He's got 7.00 against Crawford's 1.07.

The odds tell us that this fight is just a mere practice game for Crawford and he should have this kind of fight rather than not fighting at all. To further hone his skills if ever he will face some strong boxers in the future. That fight with Spence is likely not to happen because of their complicated negotiations with each other but undoubtedly there will be a fighter that would gonna give him hard time in the future. So he better not stops fighting or resting too much so that he would not be surprised when he faces a stronger opponent next time.

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November 13, 2022, 11:32:11 PM
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He is a European Champion, not in the top 5, but definitely in the top 10 of the welterweight division.

Crawford goes on to say though that no one wanted to take a fight with him and so he goes with David here. Although we have heard that Ennis and Ortiz Jr should be recognized as his potential fight but who knows, maybe again boxing politics behind make this fight impossible.

So he chooses Avanesyan as his next opponent, for tuneup for a bigger fight for next year.
I think either Crawford or Spence are ducking each other lol, we don't know which is right and which is wrong. It's odd to see Crawford announce his opponent first rather than Spence, moreover the fight between Spence vs Thurman still not official yet.

IMO in the end both Crawford and Spence will fight since there's many fans and boxing enthusiast really want it happen.

Hehehe, but it seems Crawford really want to fight Spence, but the terms though.

In any case here is what Crawford has to say again, and why he chooses David Avenasyan

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“I’m not listening to all these guys, ‘Oh, he’s fighting a bum, a cab driver, this and that,’ Crawford said. “Because they don’t know boxing. There’s a reason why a lot of people turned this guy down to fight him and why he hadn’t gotten his shot.

"Me, personally, I’m gonna go in there and do what I’m supposed to do. I’m focused, I’ve been training tremendously hard like I would anybody else. I never take any opponent lightly.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-defends-avanesyan-fight-im-not-listening-guys-saying-im-fighting-bum--170435

So that is his justification, might be true or not, but we will see if Avenasyan is a good test for Crawford in this fight.

The odds are saying otherwise, Avenasyan is still 7:1 underdog.

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November 15, 2022, 01:05:15 PM
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He is a European Champion, not in the top 5, but definitely in the top 10 of the welterweight division.

Crawford goes on to say though that no one wanted to take a fight with him and so he goes with David here. Although we have heard that Ennis and Ortiz Jr should be recognized as his potential fight but who knows, maybe again boxing politics behind make this fight impossible.

So he chooses Avanesyan as his next opponent, for tuneup for a bigger fight for next year.
I think either Crawford or Spence are ducking each other lol, we don't know which is right and which is wrong. It's odd to see Crawford announce his opponent first rather than Spence, moreover the fight between Spence vs Thurman still not official yet.

IMO in the end both Crawford and Spence will fight since there's many fans and boxing enthusiast really want it happen.

Hehehe, but it seems Crawford really want to fight Spence, but the terms though.

In any case here is what Crawford has to say again, and why he chooses David Avenasyan

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“I’m not listening to all these guys, ‘Oh, he’s fighting a bum, a cab driver, this and that,’ Crawford said. “Because they don’t know boxing. There’s a reason why a lot of people turned this guy down to fight him and why he hadn’t gotten his shot.

"Me, personally, I’m gonna go in there and do what I’m supposed to do. I’m focused, I’ve been training tremendously hard like I would anybody else. I never take any opponent lightly.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-defends-avanesyan-fight-im-not-listening-guys-saying-im-fighting-bum--170435

So that is his justification, might be true or not, but we will see if Avenasyan is a good test for Crawford in this fight.

The odds are saying otherwise, Avenasyan is still 7:1 underdog.

People just cannot understand the true reason why the fight haven't materialized from what has been expected, people just loved to point their fingers anywhere until the boxers will be forced to release statements so that they won't be blamed Grin quite funny because they cannot accept that this undisputed fight is somehow impossible to happen. Both camps already moved on, Spence got Thurman and Crawford also have Avanesyan, but I'm just really curious what Crawford meant in his statement above. I guess we will find out this 10th of December.

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