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The Crawford - Spence will not push through this year

ESPN.com’s Mike Coppinger is reporting that Crawford and David Avanesyan have “signed contracts” for a fight on Dec. 10.

Terence Crawford vs David Avanesyan reportedly signed for Dec. 10 on streaming PPV (https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/10/20/23415786/terence-crawford-vs-david-avanesyan-reportedly-signed-december-10-streaming-ppv-boxing-news-2022)

Avanesyan (29-3-1, 17 KO) is 34 years old and the reigning European welterweight champion, but I don't think he can match up the skill and power of Crawford its a cherry-picked fight but Crawford needs to fight this year because he has been inactive for a long time

This is a fight we least expect coming from Crawford but it takes two to tango and Spence or Crawford really don't like the fight to push.

But according to Crawford
https://i.imgur.com/oORtViX.jpg

When we thought that Crawford has already move out of the shadow of Top Rank because his critics felt that he is cherry picking opponents for him, now he decided to go and fight a unknown?

Nothing against Avanesyan, but Crawford, his last fight is against Porter, and it seems that this is a big let down for his fans as if instead of levelling up, he chooses to go down one level down.

This  David Avanesyan has a power  I checked Youtube for any information about this guy and this video is very interesting

The BRUTAL POWER of David Avanesyan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTHs90rC7hQ)

although impressive but against a fighter like Crawford who is fast with a good technical skills I doubt if he can hit Crawford with his so-called power, there's no big name on his list but he is the European welterweight Champion, but his power is not enough to beat Crawford.

Yes, Crawford has boxing IQ, face a lot of tough opponents that have power, but so far no one has broken his chin. And with that, I think he will overwhelm the European champion and maybe this is just a big test for Crawford, not a step up but obviously a good choice of opponent.

And if I'm not mistaken, the rest of 147 lbs is with PBC and with the fight with Spence not pushing through, I doubt that Crawford with sit down with Al Haymon again.

This Avanesyan is impressive but this is not something new to Crawford he has fought fighters that are power punchers and just move like a bull, for a fighter like Crawford, you have to match his skill if you just rely on power, he will just break you down until you can't use your power anymore, then he will impose his power to you, Crawford is a very intelligent fighter one of his arsenals is to deceive his opponent, he is good in shifting his stance and strategy, we do not need a poll here as Crawford will be the overwhelming favorite here.

This fight is better than we continue to expect a Crawford vs Spence fight that is not gonna happen, they keep hyping it but in the end, they will just disappoint us. I'm not familiar with David Avanesyan, but according to his record and some highlights, this guy is a legit challenger.

If this fight with Avanesyan pushes through then they will have a common opponent which is Kavaliauskas who defeated Avanesyan via TKO so i think this is an easy fight for Terrence Crawford because he KOed Kavaliauskas who KOed Avanesyan  ;D.

Bottomline, no matter how powerful Avenesyan is, he is not on the level of Crawford and for me this is just "to keep busy" fight for Crawford while ironing things out for the Spence fight next year but nevertheless it is a cherry-picked opponent.

Maybe not as powerful as Crawford, but I'm hoping here that we will be able to see an entertaining fight. I believe David Avanesyan is an aggressive boxer, if he would pressure Crawford, then most likely we will see a KO again and that's going to be a win by Crawford. I'm wondering what's the betting odds on this fight, hopefully we can still find some value to bet on Crawford.

I believe its also a cherry-picked fight for an eventual meeting with Spence next year, Crawford has been out of the ring for a long time he needs some challenge to avoid ring rust, but I read that Spence is moving up because he's been in this weight for so many years, both fighters loss on this missed opportunity, there's been a lot of great fights this year against bitter rivals but unfortunately, both camps cannot agree to agree, it seems they don't want to fight maybe not this year.

Obviously, it's just a cherry-pick fight because it's not what people are expecting, we want to see him fight Spence, however, despite of the hype, it still did not push through and there's no official attachment as to when the fight will really happen. Fans are tired of waiting, it's not gonna happen this year but it's still nice to see Crawford fight this opponent than not fighting at all.

I'm seeing Terence to cut a deal for a big win this time around as he has, apparently, claimed a trophy for that surpasses his competition (that's just an incentivised assumption though cus in real life, anything could happen) who knows?!
Terence has got a couple of hard tibia / fibular muscles -- also, he's got some resistance that avenesyan hasn't. I know for sure that people get really sentimental when it comes to determining who wins a fight ; some won't consider their physique, with a simple logical Sense that anyone could win, matterless of how muscular they look -- that's a hard determinant sometimes as it turns out the route- wise.

Yes, this is the bottomline, Crawford wanted to stay busy that's why he is willing to fight Spence this November. However, the fight didn't materialized so he moved with his plans to keep busy fighting with the Armenian Avanesyan. For sure we are caught off guard with this news but we all know that Crawford vs Spence is not going to happen this year.

Anyhow, as Crawford is going forward with his career, Spence is reported to be moving up to 154 lbs maybe in his next fight.

So the question is who is stalling their biggest fight in 147 lbs? Spence or Crawford. Of course we wanted to see this boxers in the ring together, but not for this year, Crawford decided to go and fight a boxer with pure power.

The money is not that great, and I haven't check who is David Avanesyan manager that prompted Crawford to pick him up as a tune up fight. I still believed that both champions will fight next year either in 147 lbs or 154 lbs.

Both fighters have alibis and want to show to the public that they want the big to push, but small details kept them from moving on with the fight, but eventually, we'll see who really has the intention for this fight not to happen


Avanesyan is a hard puncher but not a skilled fighter he lost a match against Egidijus Kavaliauskas and to think that Egidijus Kavaliauskas was knocked out by Crawford, it's easy to calculate that this is going to be an easy fight for Crawford

Check out this highlight and see if he has enough power and skill to beat Crawford
Egidijus Kavaliauskas vs. David Avanesyan | Highlights (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OxTkb-aVAY)

This is very disappointing and not only because Spence vs. Crawford will not happen. It is very disappointing that Crawford is not fighting someone who is ranked higher than Avanesyan like Boots Ennis or Vergil Ortiz. This is only another boxing event that is promoted very much similar to ICO scamcoins. Paying to watch this fight will certainly be a waste of money.

It is hard to tell who speak the truth because when Team Crawford was asked about that, they say that it was the team of Spence who avoid the fight while if we asked Team Spence, they say it was Crawford who avoided them lol.

I have recently read an article and it seems to me that Errol Spence might be the one delaying/avoiding this biggest fight in the 147lbs to happen because he might be having some problems in this weight category for now.

Haha, you really compared this to scamcoins? Well, I understand the disappointment mate, but we have no choice, at least we have one that no fight at all this year. I'm expecting an easy win by Crawford here, hopefully another KO so it will be entertaining to watch.
We can always find a way to watch this fight without paying, so don't bother.  :)

This is a very huge opportunity for Avanesyan but a cherry-picked fight for Crawford, this fight is chosen for Crawford because of the urgency, he has been off the ring for a very long time, and he needs a fighter like Avanesyan who has a good record but beatable, I don't Avanesyan has a chance against Crawford, but whenever know, Crawford has ben out o the ring for a long time, but I still bet that Crawford is going to beat Avanesyan.

There's a lack of interest in this fight compared to the Spence match up, it's understandable he should fight Ennis if he wants more money and legacy but he choose the safest route only Crawford's die-hard fans and those who can afford will buy tickets for a live fight, I prefer to see the highlights because we all know who's gonna win in this fight, Avanesyan is good but he is not on Crawford's level.

At least Terence Crawford won't be vacant this year regardless of who's the opponent.

Since the fight against Spence is not gonna happen this year, how about some warm-ups before it might happen next year.

Just enjoy the fight guys without being bitter if it's a cherry-pick or not. It's just clear that before moving up, he is really eager to fight Spence no matter what.

as there are free streaming now these days, i don't think this fight will attract good gate collection. so if this is official already, it means the two camps, crawford and spence jr didn't reach to certain agreements. now, this may be like mayweather-pacquiao in the making...

It was already clear I think several weeks ago that Spence vs Crawford fight won't happen this year.

The reason is not disclosed though but it has something to do with the transparency of the terms. Either way, we have to move on now as if that won't happen this year, still, there's a possibility to negotiate that fight.

If upset happened here against David Ananesyan then it's clear that he might can't beat Spence.

Yes, the way they will promote this, it will certainly be similar to those ICO scamcoins. The part of this where it becomes very head shaking is many people will pay for this low quality boxing.

I will certainly not bother watching this even if this is free hhehehehe.

Also, I understand your argument, however, my argument is why did he not choose Boots Ennis, Vergil Ortiz or Keith Thurman? What is the purpose of fighting Avanesyan?

Of course, because these boxers are big threats to his title he only wants a tune fight because there is a possibility that the fight will happen next year, same with the case of Spence he will not fight these three, I will be surprised if Spence will fight any of the three, he will likely choose fight that is not on his level but will poise a challenge to his skill, its really bad that they did not agree on small details, but as long as both are on the welterweight and they have their respective titles the negotiation is still open.

Well, that's what he wanted to be this year, stay busy, and so wanted to fight in November with Spence. But it's obvious that the fight is not pushing, he chooses a boxer that his not known in the US soil but has some solid power.


Still hoping that the fight is going for next year.And it should be in 147 lbs because they have all the belts here.

Yeah, hopefully David Avanesyan will show up something in this fight and at least give Crawford a tough fight or even see if he can caught him up with his power and see how Crawford will react and adjust.

I also have the same conclusion that the cap of Errol Spence is delaying the fight with him. He just had one of his biggest wins against Ugas and it was a war, so not sure how he can't make 147 lbs. I think he can still can and have like 2 fights in this weight category before moving and chase Charlo.

But for me, he seems to be stalling the fight and could have demanded more from Crawford. And that is why the fight and not going to happen as scheduled this November. And so Crawford moving on his with plans to have a least 1 fight before the end of the year.

Couldn't really blame Crawford, the man waited so long for at least a year as I remembered just for the undisputed fight and then somewhere in June they are having some discussion with Spence's camp but ended in separate ways because both camp didn't agreed on something. He was promised a fight, even leave Bob Arum just to make the fight possible but now he was all alone hanging.

I know there's a lot of expectation for Bud's next opponent, we thought it will be Spence but didn't happen, and then we also thought it would be Charlo in super welter but Charlo doesn't want to give Crawford a chance because he didn't go through the ranks. That is why now we have this David Avanesyan as a supposed tune-up fight to keep Bud in shape.

If ever there is an upset that upset will be the upset of the year and people will make it a reference for an opportunity missed by Crawford, and he cannot talk of fighting Spence anymore, without Spence giving all the terms of the fight, I don't think it's a risky fight for Crawford but upsets do happen if the underdog is a power puncher, I know who will dominate the fight but will still watch it for free for an upset if there is one which I think is unlikely.

And I think David is the back up fight plan of Crawford if the fight fell through with Spence. Yes, I know that this opponent is not what we expect of him, but perhaps its the easiest to make instead of looking for good fighters in this division at they will have to go to another round of negotiations and there are chances that it might not happen again.

So they chooses a hard hitting fighter in David Avanesyan and so Crawford will be tested here. Nevertheless, we could see a war in the initial opening and then Crawford taking over and uses his jab to pot shop Avanesyan.

It caught us all by surprise I have this feeling that Crawford is secretly negotiating for this match while the Spence fight deal is still ongoing, he just knew that the fight will Spence will not push through, and he is in a hurry to get back in the ring and Avanesyan is a perfect choice, not the boxing community wanted but what Crawford need to get himself in shape a boxer cannot be out of the ring for a long time, it will have a lasting effect and this could be a preparation for their eventual meet up next year.

That was unprofessional if Crawford is secretly negotiating with this match. Because of what you said, we can now consider that he also plays a big role in why that fight against Spence didn't happen. I think Crawford waited once the negotiation with Spence really failed before accepting another fight.

Seems cherry-picked for him but I hope Avanesyan can give trouble to Crawford to somehow not let this fight be an easy landslide win for Crawford.

I read that David Avanesyan is a popular welterweight boxer in Europe, specifically in the United Kingdom.

No way a boxer will become popular if their credentials are not good. Although Terence Crawford is considerably having a big name here, it doesn't mean that all advantages are on his side against Avanesyan.

This will be a good match for Crawford and a good test fight before facing Spence in the future, if possible.

Don't really know the real score and reason why their undisputed fight that is already dubbed as a fight of the decade didn't materialized but it seems to me that Spence's really ducking for this fight as he know that Crawford is really hard to crack. IMO, he is not that ready yet to face Bud and not ready to risk his belt, they might deny it but I'm not going to believe it as well as the people who waited their fight after all the hype. Anyway, this is good than nothing because Bud really need someone to fight to keep him fit for his upcoming fights. We may or may not see the undisputed fight, so there's no reason for us to wait.

Avanesyan is a welterweight champion in Europe he was beaten by Kavaliauskas by a knockout and Kavaliauskas was knocked out by Crawford so based on this comparison Avanesyan is a cherry-picked fight for Crawford, obviously, Crawford wants to protect his title and his records so he will have a good chance in the table in case talks between him and Spence continue, there are a lot of good boxers in the welterweight that can give him a real challenge and money but he opted for an unpopular choice like Avanesyan.

Well, you're right about that because this Avanesyan does have a decent record for starters and seeing his last 5 matches makes me think that this is indeed what Crawford needed to keep him in shape while waiting for Spence because I know that this Avanesyan will give everything he got as Crawford might be his key in the international boxing world. That said, I bet this will be a good fight that I wouldn't want to miss.

I've compared their advantages; Crawford got the reach advantage as well as the experience and ring IQ, about this Avanesyan, not yet sure what he got but I guess we will see it this coming December.

Since to fight a strong opponent will take longer than usual just to sign a contract, this one is not that bad because after all they might not looking to gather multi million dollars here, rather it's just for Crawford to keep him in shape before he finds a worthy opponent like Spence or other world champions. Crawford will win this fight easily because this opponent, is not in his rank in terms of strength and speed.

Still this is much better rather than we get nothing from waiting Crawford for the whole year of 2022, surely we didn't expected this situation because we all expected an undisputed fight and personally, I didn't expected that he will pick this boxer. Anyway, as I said, it is still better than nothing.

I dug David's record to see what he is made of, he does have a good record and surely he have nothing to lose here compared to Crawford that is still undefeated until now. Some says what if Bud will be defeated here, I say that might be almost impossible to happen.

I just saw this on my feed Crawford has been accused of ducking three boxers, we cannot blame him he still hoping for a title unification for Spence and he doesn't want to risk his title by fighting Ennis or Ortiz, Avanesyan is a sure bet that he will retain the title, Crawford could be in the twilight of his career so he is picking his opponents now, Ortiz Jr. should be his mandatory opponent but he opted for a lesser challenger in Avanesyan.

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Yes, it's clearly a duck on Crawford side, Ennis could be a good test for him, has power in both hands and rising in ranks.

I guess though he is just looking for a fight that will make him busy this year and not really to defend his belt against worthy opponents like Ennis and Ortiz Jr. Most likely the negotiations with Spence could be back next year after this fight or if Spence will go to the same route of having a get busy fight as well.

He has been talking about Ennis if I'm not mistaken, but maybe he doesn't want to give him the fight right now.

So he took an easy route to fight David Avanesyan and see if he can persuade again Spence to have a fight for next year. If not, then maybe he will have to look at this two in the future or maybe move to 154 lbs and not give them the chance to beat him. I'm not saying that Crawford is afraid of the two, but career wise if he wanted to cement his legacy, he could be moving up next to get another belt.

If Spence is also fighting someone similar to Avanesyan to avoid Ortiz, Boots Enmis or Thurman then I want an answer to the question on why Terence Crawford is going to fight Avanesyan instead of the real contenders. I reckon no one will say it because it would prove that the first argument presented is correct.

I guess Spence fighting Thurman would be a good fight to witness, we will forget our disappointment in the Crawford vs Spence fight that didn't happen. This one should is easy for Crawford, so let's see who will Spence fight, hopefully one of the names you've mentioned.

If Crawford is doing it, cherry-picking a fighter why not Spence, of course, he too wants to protect his record and the real money maker is Crawford's fight, a fight with any of them, Ortiz or Ennis will make money but not as big money like a Crawford fight he too, is thinking that they can complete a deal next year, so we'll see if Spence will do a Crawford.

I believe the odds of this fight is Crawford will be huge favorited and doesn't worth to bet, maybe the Moneyline odds is 1.10x or lower. Again and again Crawford is ducking many good boxers and just pick a weak boxer in order to defend his belts, last year he's talking too much if he's the top 1 pound for pound boxer, but I don't think a real top 1 boxer will avoid challenge to fight a good boxer. I think this fight wouldn't hyped.

Crawford doesn't want to take a big risk right now, there are a lot of great names coming up now in the welterweight, they are young and hungry fighters but still want to take Spence because this is where the big money is, this is going to be his possible because earners in his career he already stated that he still wants to whoop Spence ass after the Avanesyan fight, he can be sure that he will come out the winner, he cannot say that if he is going to face Ennis or Ortiz because these two are a serious threat to this title.

There's no other world champions to fight except Errol Spence Jr. in 147 lbs and Jermell Charlo in 154 lbs, Crawford can't go higher or lower than that. I mean he can but his strength and speed will be not the same anymore and Crawford is already already 35 years old to do such things because welterweight and super-welterweight will be his limit. What I'm surprised is that Crawford chose David over the #1 contender in 147 lbs which is Jaron Ennis.

It might be good, however, I want to watch the real contenders fight the kings of welterweight hehe. I have mentioned this a few times already, Boots Ennis is the 3rd king of welterweight boxing. We only have not wintessed his greatness because he is not being given an opportunity. I want to see Ennis vs. Thurman. This would be the best opportunity for Ennis because if he defeats Thurman, he will have a big name in his record and he shows that he can fight vs. the best. Also, it will not be similar to an ICO scam boxing fight hehehehehe.

Jaron Ennis could be the worst enemy for Crawford these days because the latter haven't had any fights for almost a year now, this November marks his 1 whole year without getting a fight. Ennis is touted to be the next or much better than Terence Crawford because of his style in the ring and note that he is a knockout specialist too with a 90% KO ratio, that is why he is considered a much dangerous opponent for Bud.

Although I'm not sure why he didn't choose to fight Vergil Ortiz Jr. because he is a much better opponent if Crawford just wanted to keep his shape and form before he fights Spence later next year.

Ennis is making some name for himself in this division and could be avoided by either Crawford or Spence at least for this year. Ennis could be the future of this division no doubt. And if both of them go up in weight then chances are Ennis could fight for at least for one of the vacated belt.


Another good boxer, but I guess Crawford see this fight as another difficult fight for him that's why he skip Ortiz Jr as well. So he take a safe route for now and fight David just to keep his active this year.

Both of them can cherry pick the boxers they want to fight next preserved their record and then declare that they are the best in this division. Of course the fight that we wanted to see is Crawford vs Spence. But obviously, it's not going to happen and they will not face a boxer that can upset them, ie. Ortiz or Ennis. At the back of their mind, maybe they can still salvage their unification fight and get their biggest paycheck next year so Crawford taking a boxer that he can beat much easier as compare to Ortiz or Ennis.

I totally understand Crawford if he's not giving too much time waiting for a better match, against Spence. Time is not on his side anymore. He may be a great boxer, undefeated, and brilliant inside the ring, but he can't remain inactive indefinitely just to negotiate with the camp of Spence.

It's such a waste for the boxing fans around the world that the kind of match won't materialize but it's just the way how business works in boxing. Avanesyan is not a popular opponent but he's certainly better than nothing.

It is possible that the Crawford-Spence fight will still happen. I just hope that by that time, both fighters are still in their prime.

I agree it's Spence who is benefitting from this long negotiation The last fight of Terence Crawford took place on November 20, 2021, against Shawn Porter, it will be one year and he needs to have a match it will have an effect on his performance if he waits for Spence, we cannot blame Crawford if he is secretly negotiating a fight and all of us was caught by surprise, I predict a knock out by Crawford and after that, he will renew his call for a Spence fight, it will be another drama, the boxing community is tired of waiting and the drama I don't think they will bite this time.

Nope, too early for Thurman to have his chance in fighting a title fight and I think he should at least get through the ranks first before he fight Spence. There's Ortiz Jr. and Ennis to start with, aside from that, Spence will just give Thurman his second defeat that is why I'm thinking that the latter should survive the ranks first before fighting the champions.
Now I'm also curious why Spence is heading to 154 lbs, he should fight Ennis or Ortiz too, so that he can prove that he is not ducking nobody. Too obvious, I reckon.

@Vaculin. Who will Spence challenge in the higher weight division? Will it be the champion? It might be because Errol Spence's team has calculated the rewards and the risks. A fight for the unification of the welterweight championships might be high reward, however, there is higher risk. A challenge against the boxer in the higher weight division is also high reward, however, lower risk.

The thing with Thurman is that he is a former champion in 147 lbs, it's that he got injured, lost to Manny and then go on a long haitus already he made a comeback and win again. So it's like for promoters they have to weigh things, which one will give them more money Ortiz or Ennis who I might say doesn't have the name yet in 147 lbs, or a established name like Thurman that could sell fights if Spence wanted to fight next?

Crawford though is having a get busy fight before the end of this year, and not the fight that fans wanted, but I guess we can all understand where Crawford is coming from as the negotiations with a super fight with Spence fell off.

It's not yet confirmed who will he fight next nor confirmed that he will really climb the next division. Rumors says that Spence will fight the undisputed champion in 154 lbs., Jermell Charlo. I mean, who else? I don't seriously think that Spence will go through the ranks or fight the #1 contender which is Sebastian Fundora as it won't be marketable. If that's the case, he should just clean his own division first before climbing the higher weight class.


I don't think Thurman could be the best market out of the three named boxers because people wouldn't believe that Thurman can stand a chance against Spence. We already know the history, Ugas defeated Pacquiao and Spence defeated Ugas while Thurman here was defeated by Pacquiao. Can't imagine if Pacquiao-Spence fight wasn't cancelled. That is why it's much better for Spence to pick Ennis.

I feel disappointed it should be, we can bet and see Terence vs. Errol next december, how about pound for pound stars dueling in the ring, this is disappointing. Errol seems afraid to fight Terence, Of course this will affect boxing fans who want to place bets, though, this boxing match has a change of opponents between Crawford vs David in the ring to come.

If Crawford vs David clash in the ring next December, this is a tough challenge for boxing fans/bettors because we see David is also the best boxer at the moment, but I believe this is a tough opponent for Crawford, hope Crawford can face David and can finish boxing well this time, but not sure, obviously we'll see the result next december, hopefully the schedule doesn't change again, wish I could place the bet in the correct position.

No, Avanesyan is not a tough challenge for Crawford, Avanesyan was beaten by Ilgauskas by knock out and Ilgauskas was beaten by Crawford by knockout, he may have a good boxing record but the records fail in comparison to Crawford's records, it will be an easy fight for Crawford many boxing experts consider this a smart move by Crawford's team fighting a boxer with a good record but beatable, while Spence will have a hard challenge against former champion Thurman.

It's kinda uninteresting to see a match whom a fighter lost to his recent opponent which was also experienced defeat to his current opponent. Worst case was, it was a K.O.
Even without you mentioning Avanesyan's match history, he's an easy opponent for Crawford skill-wise.
It's indeed very disappointing to see Crawford-Spence not pushed through when the timing is perfect, where both still in their prime, and both undefeated and very skilled fighters.

But still though, as far as resume is concern Thurman > Ennis or Ortiz Jr, both is still not a PPV stars, I know that they are still unbeaten, but I don't think boxing promoters will give them the chance as early at this time to have the chance to fight for the belt, and it's going to be risky for both Crawford and Spence to fight either one of them. Again, I'm not saying that they are avoiding this two, but the risk and reward ratio and the expected returns might not be good.

So in this case, Crawford goes on a easy route vs Avanesyan, and who knows, Spence will see Thurman as and easy fight as well and the reward will be high in the end. And I'm seeing that this fight will sell to the fans.

I understand the frustration but surely, after dealing successfully with their respective match, the talks about the possibility of them facing each other will resume next year. It's good that both camps know the problem of why the negotiation failed and they surely will address it in their next talks.

However, there's recent news that Spence might move up to 154 lbs and vacate his title. If this happened, then the unification fight between Crawford and Spence won't happen anymore unless they will meet again on the top of 154 lbs which I think there's only a slight chance of happening given their age.

i believe the disappointment was similar when mayweather-pacquiao didn't fight when they were both at their prime. but if spence and crawford will go separate ways, then, we don't know if they will still cross paths in the future. we will see by next year if this anticipated match will still have the chance.
if both are winning with their chosen opponents, and their respective promoters are seeing the demand and possible huge payout of their career, i believe, their match will still happen.

Yes, no doubt about that. Ennis already have the skillset needed to defeat these existing champions in welterweight division and he will be the first one to get the chance if both champions will climb the next division. Crawford though should avoid him for now because there's no use in defeating these boxers as it won't give him what he needed, Spence on the other hand should be able to fight them because he has more time than Crawford does.

And that might be the reason why Crawford and soon Spence will be ducking because it is rumored that he will climb in 154 lbs., also, they cannot just confront and fight Ennis in their state, not underestimating the current champions in welterweight but it's almost unarguable that Ennis have a good chance against Crawford and Spence as he is touted to be much better than Bud Crawford in his prime.

Just for the record, Crawford is not tied to any promoters or networks, so it's easy for him to make any fight including this one. And that is one reason whey we are all baffled by the fight not happening because that is one sticking point before. Is that his promoter that time, TR, doesn't want to work with Al Haymon and PBC. But that stumbling block has been removed by Crawford and yet the fight is still not happening and negotiations didn't materialized.

Yes, both of them seems to be covering for each other because they are so silent despite the issues surfacing since their fight was announced not to happen this year. But what I'm curious about is why Crawford chose to fight this David instead because there is Ortiz Jr. who looks a lot more weaker than Ennis. I understand why he skipped Ennis but Ortiz Jr.? A fight with him might be much better than this David who he'll face next month.

Well, glad you cleared that for me mate ;D Yes, I understand. It's all about money this time and it's already safe to say that they will save the best for last because the risk and reward is quite bigger. Although, from what I heard, the latest rumor about Spence is that he will fight Jermell Charlo, both PBC stars and that's actually possible, while Spence here will be just go back and forth whenever he needed to defend his title in welter.

Right mate, it's all business for this boxers now, Crawford wanted to keep his record for a while and so even if Avanesyan is a knockout artist, he is still relatively easy fight for him as compare if he faces Vergil Ortiz Jr or Ennis, risk and reward.

Yeah, Spence has been targeting Charlo at 154 lbs but Jermell will have a fight with Tim Tsyzu early next year. So that will make Spence wait a bit, or maybe just like Crawford, he will have a get busy fight next against a relatively unknown by rank fighter within the PBC stable.

Not anymore because Crawford has come out of the shadow and talked raw information regarding the unification fight cancelled, I used the term cancelled because Crawford now is taking a different route from what we're expecting, they haven't officially announced the cancellation but that's what we've got so far. So anyway, Crawford now revealed that Al Haymon is one of the big reasons why the fight didn't materialize.

Yes, Al Haymon never give him the chance to say the least and he wanted to have full control of the fight from the beginning and even threaten that they can go out and have fight for Spence for someone and still get 10 figures.

Anyhow, he said that he move forward, choosen a dangerous fighter that can bang and give fight fans a good fight and at the same time, Crawford will show his skills against a puncher.

Well Crawford at this moment cannot complain, he has achieved a fight where he can show off, also all the training that he had to give himself to fight against Spence is something that he cannot let go in vain, there has to be a fight for him to stay in the action and continue to attract Spence's attention, for me this is like a summons for Spence, however I will leave it there, so that no other type of controversy is generated, in the case of Avanesyan it is something else, this boxer can demonstrate many things, first shutting up Crawford has done so much, you can earn a lot of money di win, so here the one who has the most to lose is Crawford.


In the case of Crawford, I would fight whoever they have to fight, the idea is that if I manage to beat the most I can, it is much better, I do want to draw the attention of Spence or any other boxer who has a higher level, I have to To win many victories, it is a lie that you have to fight with opponents of a high level, with an opponent of a lower level the fight will not be exciting, obviously there will be no demand, and I do not know if the Crawford vs. Spence would have to do with high demand, that is something that It could be presented as a possible element that does not occur, of course it is mere speculation on my part, but I think Crwadord has to take advantage of every moment of the fight that comes his way.

Interesting:

Terence Crawford: “I Believe In Myself…Errol Spence, He Can’t Say The Same”

https://i.imgur.com/PtIEAr5.png


Source: https://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/terence-crawford-i-believe-in-myself-errol-spence-he-cant-say-the-same/ (https://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/terence-crawford-i-believe-in-myself-errol-spence-he-cant-say-the-same/)

Yes, he has a fight now in schedule so definitely, he is taking over he is the boss of himself and doesn't have the like of Haymon that can dictate everything and has a cut every time he fight.

So people would have say that he cherry pick David her including myself, but still a good fight for him style-wise.

And if Spence fight Thurman since both are with Al, then it's good as well. But what Crawford revealed seems to be going on a direction that this fight is not going to be made in the future. Specially on how he portray Al Haymon now.

Although Crawford is indeed superior, but it is true that David Ava cannot be underestimated either.
Of course Ava will have her own strategy to face Crawford in this fight.
I hope so too, I'm enthusiastic and confident that Crawford can get through this fight and keep moving forward.
I hope that the match with Spence will actually happen, because so many are looking forward to it.

So got the time to look for David Avanesyan fight and see how good he is,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xUFVfAW8rI

This is against Josh Kelly, and Josh was really doing good in the first couple of round even caught Davis napping and almost got a knock down. But David is one tough sob, as he keeps coming back for more and when he landed flash, it was over for Josh.

However, I would say that he is just fairly basic and I think Crawford will win this fight very easy as he can break him down per round.

You should also watch his loss against Kavaliauskas, Kavaliauskas break him down with a lot of counter punching and Kavaliauskas only need one solid punch to break his defense, Avanesyan is only good on low-level fighters but when it comes to a fighter with good counter punching he is helpless, he lacks ring generalship he just throws haymakers but opens himself to counter punch he lacks lateral movement, this is going to be an easy fight for Crawford he is so used fighting this kind of boxers, and experts in beating them.

Aside from agility and reach are advantages in boxing along with experience, skills, and intelligence. But what's obvious is that, crawford has the reach advantage of 14cm over Avanesyan. On their stats as well, the chances of Crawford for a knockout is higher. Well actually, one boxer has most of the edge on this fight but it just happened that we don't always depend on stats alone. There are factors such as Individual's fighting spirit and eagerness in the square which might create changes once the bell rings. On my end, as a gambler, I'd bet with odds but as a fan of this sport I'd never understimate the skills of David 'coz he won't get that reputation without a reason.

We can't really blame Bud for what he did, Al Haymon deserved it and had it coming because he played games to him and let him go back and forth just to make the fight happen. We all know how eager Bud is and what he sacrificed just to wait and make the fight happen, it's just that Al doesn't want it. I understand that he just want to protect Spence or whatsoever but what he did is a bit extreme. Crawford don't deserve that, Al could've talked him directly so that Bud's resources and time won't be wasted for nothing.

It's true that this David Avanesyan is not an easy opponent, and he got some impressive KO's in his record but we shouldn't forget the reason on why Crawford chose this David over the top contenders of welterweight namely Ortiz Jr. and Ennis. Crawford haven't fought any boxers since last year and he'll be going a year without any fights this coming November 20. I don't he have any intentions to have his first loss without having a chance to fight Spence for a unification fight, that said, this is just a mere tune-up fight but with a much challenging opponent.

From the looks on his record, it seems he is dangerous but he fought only two tough and popular boxers Ilgauskas whom he knockout and Josh Kelly whom he beat, other than all his opponents are unknown and not top level, we can take a cue from the recent match between Bivol and Ramirez, Zurdo has a very good record but most of his fights are coming from low-level fighters and when he fought Bivol he is busted, that's what's going to happen to Avanesyan, its not who will win but what round will Crawford take down Avanesyan.

And just to add to that, David Avanesyan vs Vergil Ortiz is already in works early this year, but it didn't happen. Ortiz blame Avanesyan for tanking this fight.

But it seems that it was blessing for him, as he is now going to face Crawford and probably for a good and biggest paycheck of his as compare to fighting Ortiz. Yes, this could be just a tune up for Crawford this year. But in any case, they can made a fight between him and Ortiz next year. Ortiz is with Golden Boy so I guess it will be easier to negotiate as compare to some of the welterweight wherein they are in the stable of PBC.

well, we will see the power of crawford here. and see if he is indeed ready for the most anticipated fight with spence jr. maybe, these 2 camps are testing the waters first before their big fight, which is understandable. not only for the boxer but also for the promoters. because they want to be sure what they're getting into if the money split is big deal on the table.

No. There is no testing of the waters on both Crawford or Spence.

Their anticipated fight failed because of some politics-related and some serious issues they are not disclosing.

Crawford now moves on and just needs to win at every of his fights without pushing now on a fight against Spence.

Out of nowhere the name David Avanesyan came. This is one lucky guy. Even if he is defeated in this match, which is most likely to happen, he will definitely cherish the moment that he is facing against the great Terence Crawford. He'll be proud of this for the rest of his life. Of course he could even be the luckiest man if he upsets Crawford. But looking at the odds, it seems nobody is really expecting him to win. He's got 7.00 against Crawford's 1.07.

Nope, I don't believe that's the case. Boxing fans wants the fight and they already have the whole idea how much this match could make for all of them.
Nobody is understanding these after Crawford told the media that there is nothing in their way to let this fight happen. Also, it should be now or never, while they are still in their prime.
Boxing fans are now getting antsy as they saw a glimpse of the Pacquiao - Mayweather fight in 2015.
And this guy right here is obviously will not match against Crawford.

I don't think he's lucky :D it looks like this fight happen because Crawford cherry pick Avanesyan, not Avanesyan itself who want to have a fight with Crawford. This can be an excuse for Crawford to not fight with Spence, I don't know if their fight (Crawford vs Spence) is postponed or cancelled, but if their fight will happen in the future, Crawford is the one who will in trouble since he's not young anymore. He's currently 35 years old, while Spence is 32 years old.

Then Avanesyan is therefore luckier. If he is not the one who is trying hard looking for ways to fight the popular and talented Crawford, then it is opportunity that is knocking on his door. He is the luckiest man. Others at his level could only dream of it. Now he is sharing the limelight with one of the best pound for pound boxers of his time.

I think Crawford is the one who's more eager to face Spence. It's just that there were problems along the way. I cannot find any reason why Crawford would go for one Avanesyan than Spence.

The situation is different now because Bud already talked about what really happened and why the fight didn't happen unlike from what it's expected to be. I'm just waiting on Spence or Al Haymon's statement regarding Crawford's statement, it'll be interesting for sure because Crawford revealed some facts.

If I were Crawford, I won't face either Oritz Jr. or Ennis regardless of any criticism that people will throw and let Spence handle them if he can, just to give back the favor back as it's already clear that Spence and Al are just waiting for him to be much older and weaker before they try and discuss the unification.

As the saying goes, it's better to be lucky than good (although David has a good record). But I guess as you described it, he was lucky enough to be pick by Crawford for his next fight.


It's because he has been criticized before for facing B-level fighter. So steps up the plate, fight Porter and beat him bad. Now, it's time for unification fight with Spence as it is brewing for years already. Unfortunately, the fight is not going to happen now, to many conflicting reports. But at least Crawford has tell his side of the story, and Crawford is silent about it.

But in any case someone is interested, both of them are going back in forth in their social media:

https://twitter.com/ErrolSpenceJr

Still not enough to clean and wipe their name from Crawford's sudden statements, it's been days already since Crawford did it, yet Al and Spence are still quite about it. I don't either expect that Spence will be the one who is stepping up because he won't say anything, not under Al's blessings.

Crawford's time just got wasted for waiting nothing. Clearly, he was played and thought that things would be much easier without Bob.

Yes, his response is just vague and you can sense that he can't answer anything or at least held some in this twitter account.

Unlike Crawford, no holds barb, he is telling everything on his side, maybe not all though, but still you can read between the lines, as who wanted the fight to happen and who's side is trying to make this a one side affair, all the money goes to them.

And yeah, good advise by someone within the PBC camp that Crawford didn't name. For sure he knows that they will do anything and make it hard for Crawford to agree. All the money that is going to be offered to him will be less that he expected for this kind of big fight.

He is a European champion and did have a good record to begin with. Maybe you can call him lucky because he will definitely have a good paycheck, but still he has to work very hard if he wanted to stop Crawford because it is going to take a lot from him, he is now book as 7:1 underdog.

Nevertheless, there is nothing he can do even if he lose this fight. Crawford is one of the best champion in this division and it could be a an honor for a EU champion like him to be suddenly on the biggest spotlight.

He maybe was a champion but he was not part of the top list of a champion where Spence and Crawford belong, that's why it's understandable if people will not think that he is not a good opponent as Crawford is just a celebrated champion. Well, upset is possible but I don't see one against Crawford.

Like I said, Spence cannot act alone without Al's orders or blessing as they couldn't afford to make mistakes these days because they are already under fire. Honestly though, being silent after what Crawford said clearly mean that they are guilty about it which I bet they didn't expect that Crawford would suddenly do that.

Crawford was tired on keeping all the news by himself that's why he let himself explode with facts. That news didn't surprise me at all because it was already clear who needs to be blamed, what we wanted is a confirmation though. Surely, Al Haymon will make the fight more impossible after this incident.

He is a European Champion, not in the top 5, but definitely in the top 10 of the welterweight division.

Crawford goes on to say though that no one wanted to take a fight with him and so he goes with David here. Although we have heard that Ennis and Ortiz Jr should be recognized as his potential fight but who knows, maybe again boxing politics behind make this fight impossible.

So he chooses Avanesyan as his next opponent, for tuneup for a bigger fight for next year.

Indeed and Avanesyan has his time in the WBA welterweight spotlight when he defeats Charlie Navarro for the vacant WBA interim welterweight title and defended it from Shane Mosley via unanimous Decision way back in 2016. He was then elevated as a Regular welterweight champion when the supposed fight  deal with Keith Thurman fall apart making Thurman Super Champion.  Sadly it is short lived for Avanesyan being the regular Champion when he failed to defend his title against Lamont Peterson  losing via close UD. [1]


It is also possible that Crawford will take the path of lesser risk since I also think it isn't worth taking a huge risk when a possible unification fight may happen next year.

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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Avanesyan

I hope that's the real purpose, and that big fight next year would really happen. There's no other big fight for him but to fight the winner of the Spence vs Thurman fight, so he should take it easy and be ready for the challenge. I will hope that Thurman will win so Crawford would always get the opportunity to have that big fight.

I think either Crawford or Spence are ducking each other lol, we don't know which is right and which is wrong. It's odd to see Crawford announce his opponent first rather than Spence, moreover the fight between Spence vs Thurman still not official yet.

IMO in the end both Crawford and Spence will fight since there's many fans and boxing enthusiast really want it happen.

The odds tell us that this fight is just a mere practice game for Crawford and he should have this kind of fight rather than not fighting at all. To further hone his skills if ever he will face some strong boxers in the future. That fight with Spence is likely not to happen because of their complicated negotiations with each other but undoubtedly there will be a fighter that would gonna give him hard time in the future. So he better not stops fighting or resting too much so that he would not be surprised when he faces a stronger opponent next time.

Hehehe, but it seems Crawford really want to fight Spence, but the terms though.

In any case here is what Crawford has to say again, and why he chooses David Avenasyan


https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-defends-avanesyan-fight-im-not-listening-guys-saying-im-fighting-bum--170435

So that is his justification, might be true or not, but we will see if Avenasyan is a good test for Crawford in this fight.

The odds are saying otherwise, Avenasyan is still 7:1 underdog.

People just cannot understand the true reason why the fight haven't materialized from what has been expected, people just loved to point their fingers anywhere until the boxers will be forced to release statements so that they won't be blamed ;D quite funny because they cannot accept that this undisputed fight is somehow impossible to happen. Both camps already moved on, Spence got Thurman and Crawford also have Avanesyan, but I'm just really curious what Crawford meant in his statement above. I guess we will find out this 10th of December.

^^ That's part of it I guess, no one wants to accept the blame for a fight to not happening as big as this one. But at least we have heard the side of Crawford, maybe it's just half truth or wait, I'm still interested to hear though as who is that hedge fund manager willing to offer them guaranteed money of $50 million, maybe it's just a bluff on his end, hehehehe.

But yeah, December 10, we shall see if Avanesyan is really good as advertised by Crawford as an opponent. Or will it be just an easy fight for him and then his critics will go after him for taking an easy route.

You got some point but I don't think that Crawford was indeed bluffing when he told Al that there's someone out there who is willing to fund the fight, he won't be doing that just for the sake of pressuring Al and the latter is quite smart too and won't believe a single word without a proof. Crawford might have said all those words to save himself from the blaming game.

December 10, our questions will be answered and there might be some bonus statements from Crawford post-fight.

It's an open secret in the boxing industry that Al Haymon is very powerful and mysterious entity in boxing. And in his revelation, someone whisper to him, and this guy is under PBC that he needs to be careful on dealing with Al since he has no manager or someone that knows the ins and outs of boxing. And that he might be taking advantage of Al. And basically that's what happen, with no guarantee money. And that's why Crawford pitch that he knows rich personality willing to give both him and Spence $50 million, just a matter of how much they are going to split it up. But Al says no, and obviously Crawford didn't agree as well and that is why he is going to fight Avanesyan this December and then Spence moving forward with in house money fight with One Time Thurman.

What I didn't understand is Al Haymon should have told Crawford much earlier like weeks or months earlier that they have no intentions on materializing the fight. What they did was too unreasonable as they let Crawford go back and forth and wasted a couple of months for nothing. And I'm also curious on one other thing, Al said that he talked someone from Crawford's camp but Crawford was surprised because he didn't know about it that there's someone who came to Al and introduced himself in behalf of Crawford to have a discussion.

Good thing that Crawford already prepared a fight in-case the unification fight won't be happening, no one expected it for sure and people are asking why Avanesyan. For me, it's okay to fight whoever he wanted because he haven't got a fight for more than a year already, but the next fight should be at least more interesting.

There's no way that we could find out even if Crawford will confirm that what he was saying are all true and there is indeed that person who is interested to give them that huge guaranteed money of over a $50M just to make the fight happen. And of course, Al Haymon will decline that offer because he himself can make the fight happen and a $50M is not that big compared to what he could've earn if he will make the fight happen, I reckon it will be at least $100M considering that Spence is the PPV King and adding Crawford in the equation will be a sure blockbuster hit. Unfortunately, Al or Spence is not yet ready for it.

Well, I really think that here the one who has the greatest advantage of doing something good is Avanesyan, because he is a boxer who can make history if he gets a good victory, of course if this happens everything would collapse for Crawford, right now Crawford lop who doesn't want to lose It's gfama, maybe this is such an interesting fight for many, but it can be something important and influential for some fans of world boxing, in particular I even want to see how much Crawford has practiced, I know he has prepared a lot , because he wanted to go all out against Spence, but things didn't happen, somehow it will get his attention.

He will show what he got again since the deal against Spence didn't materialize and he need to add more hypes to his name, even he's a title holder without a fight his name will be stuck so for this upcoming fight he will show what he still have and will entertain his fans, knowing Crawford which more likely to review his opponents capabilities and will prepare to make sure that he will have to keep his belt and still have lots of money fight to come before he retires his gloves.

Maybe next year Spence and Crawford's camp will sit again and try to negotiate in terms of each demand to make the fight happen.

I wouldn't call Spence a PPV though, even Canelo is not drawing huge amount of PPV, in his last fight against GGG, he has like just over a million PPV. And for the Spence vs Ugas fight, reports says it draw 240,000 PPV

https://ringside24.com/en/55740-spence-ugas-240-thousand-sold-ppv

And so I doubt that they can make $100 M.

And one thing that makes Crawford revelation believable is that PBC is not contradicting any in the public. They just wanted to keep silent and then announced a Spence vs Thurman fight.

That $50 million is a guaranteed purse split for both Crawford and Spence, so maybe $30 M to $20 M in favor Spence. And as far as PBC is offering Crawford, again this is from Bud himself, 35% is the offer to him.

I agree, $100M is a bit too much to ask for a Crawford-Spence fight and that $50M offered by an independent contractor was a reasonable offer. Give or take, they might not even reach $70M. Don't know what Al Haymon is thinking and he is greedy even if he doesn't the fight to happen, for sure Spence was already ready but he cannot just fly solo for now.

Anyway, Spence vs Thurman fight is not yet final. They haven't speak of anything after the order of WBC but I know this will push through because Spence won't just let Keith have his way without even fighting for it. Lastly, the fight has been rumored to happen on December 17 of this year. (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/11/errol-spence-jr-vs-keith-thurman-rumored-for-dec-17th/)

Yes, I know that this fight is ain't final yet and I expect that this will happen somewhere in the 1st quarter next year. But next month? That's totally not possible. The fight have just been ordered recently and both camps are not yet done with the terms if they already began discussing it that is why I don't think that it will happen next month. That is too rush and this is not an ordinary fight, this is a title fight.

I guess this fight is easy to made because they have the said promoter in Al Haymon and PBC. And this could be a good reason, Spence could rub it in on Crawford as he can say that he is fighting a tough opponent as compare to him getting Avanesyan in December 10.

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Crawford has been criticized for fighting a unknown boxer, but he said that he did everything in his part to make the deal with Spence or his camp. Unfortunately, they can't make a deal and so he will continue to fight to defend his belt against Avanesyan.

Well here is something clear, and it is that Crawford is a boxer through whom he could not find the fight against Spence, and that is something that I know frustrated him, but I thought Crawford's decision to look for the fight against David was good, he is a boxer who can be very tough and dfuicuk de gabar ty Crawford has to show that the fight against Spence is that little thorn that should be taken out, but with more previous victories, if there is not a good victory against David, it will be difficult for him to measure you with Spence, who is his main objective, for his part Spence did not stay behind, he has another fight, so things can be equalized for both, so that a good fight can take place.

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In another order of ideas, with Crawford they have many opportunities to continue seeing him despite the fight he has with Avanesyan, whatever the result of the fight they want Crawford to have a very good fight, right now we have the following:

Crawford must fight Boots Ennis or Spence in 2023 or vacate WBO belt

https://i.imgur.com/oMo2pZ7.png


Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/11/crawford-must-fight-boots-ennis-or-spence-in-2023-or-vacate-wbo-belt/ (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/11/crawford-must-fight-boots-ennis-or-spence-in-2023-or-vacate-wbo-belt/)

However, there is still some time to see the fight and make good speculations, although the truth is that many have enough hope that Crawford will be the winner.

Yes, not going to happen this December, most likely it will be early quarter next year. Although both of them have been notified of the potential fight so for sure they might be doing some light trainings just to get the blood going specially for Thurman.

For this fight Crawford is still way the odds favorite, and should be focus and not take away and be distracted by the fight between him and Spence not happening because both sides failed to come up on an agreement.

Definitely not this year, apart from the boxer's preparations and trainings. Promoters do need some time too to plan the fight carefully on where they will hold the fight and the correct date where there's no conflicts like important holidays or other fights that will divide the crowd. For a title fight, it's best if they can finalize the fight and give the final details 2 months prior the fight so that the audience can prepare for it as well so that the fight will be packed.

Agreed, no movement huge movements on their odds as well. It is expected already that Crawford will defeat Avanesyan easily and will just look this as a mere tune-up to prepare him from the future fights that may happen next year.

Yes, and this fight is barely weeks from now, both are now winding their training and maybe watching their weight as in the next couple of weeks they will go on the scale. As the majority says, it's just a tune up fight for Crawford, definitely, the biggest fish to fry is Spence (sorry I have to bring it up again), but maybe a Ennis fight will not be that bad for Crawford's legacy as Jarod is the young gun coming up in their division. Taller, and has a bigger punching power, so no wonder either one of them doesn't want to fight him as this point. But to reach for greatness and legacy, either Crawford or Spence should give him that one and only chance.

No worries mate, it's fine. We cannot really keep ourselves from mentioning them because somehow these topics are connected to the ones who holds the belt in this division. I also hated the fact that boxing these days are far more political rather than giving the people the fight they deserved because they are the ones why they became a millionaire, so somehow, they owe it to the people.

I just hope that sooner or later, if in case Spence vs Crawford will not happen, one of them will fight the next contenders like Ortiz Jr. and Ennis rather than fighting an amateurs who are way out of their league (except for Spence because Keith is not a regular boxer, I bet he can still surprise us)

I'm just hoping that the IBF will join the party too so that Spence won't have to take his time much longer to think about whether he'll bring vengeance or not because he seriously does not want to be stripped of the belts that he is now holding without giving a good fight to defend it. It's time for him to forget about that incident because it is not that serious because he was not a hot shot at that time as the likes of Mayweather, Pacquiao and Thurman are the ones who are controlling that division. Now that his time has come, it's better for him to defeat Thurman as a way of revenge.


I know that he's still thinking about it because it is really hard to forget about that as he looked like a fool going back and forth without knowing that Al Haymon has no intentions to make the fight happen. Anyway, let's just move on because they are now facing different foes and accept the fact that their undisputed fight seems too much to ask.

Well yes, what you say is true, but I think we can't try to underestimate Avanesyan either, what would happen if Crawford lost? how would he? Personally, nobody gets it out of my head that Crawford has been preparing for the fight that didn't happen with Spence all these months, what he was waiting for is that they say yes to fight him once and for all, which The thing is that things didn't work out and for now it's up to him with someone else, but in the event that Crawford wins, I'm very sure that he will go back to look for Spence no matter what, somehow ´´he wants Spence to give him that peel.

On the other hand, I think that Spnece will also have to win his fight, it is not an easy thing, it has already been shown in boxing that they should never be trusted, because in the event that he loses, he has to accept the fight against Crawford.

Here a gift:

Prograis Title Try Provides Welcome Jolt from Crawford-Spence Coma

https://i.imgur.com/skYGwKh.png


Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/prograis-title-try-provides-welcome-jolt-from-crawford-spence-coma--170686 (https://www.boxingscene.com/prograis-title-try-provides-welcome-jolt-from-crawford-spence-coma--170686)

Well I think that in 2023 if we see the Crawford vs. Spence fight, it is that this show is being asked for by the fans, and I think that sometimes you have to please the fans.

True Avanesyan have power behind his punches too but  Crawford is a technical fighter that can see Avanesyan's moves.  Aside from that Crawford had beaten two of three boxers that defeated Avanesyan and one of the is via TKO.  That alone can state a possibility that Crawford is way better boxer than Avanesyan.  And of course, no matter how better the boxer is, the possibility of an upset win is there. 


Only Crawford and his team know what is the next step if this happens.   Of course, they will reflect on the mistakes they made before thinking of any best course to continue Crawford's career.


They both need to win their fight if they wanted their match-up as hot as ever.  It would lose some interest if one of them got defeated before they meet in the ring.  The unblemished record and the held title are what keep the audience wanting to see them box on fire.


Hopefully, the long-awaited fight between Spence and Crawford happen next year.  It is been long due.

I guess that's why others call Al Haymon a devious manager, and become so powerful maybe because of this kind of move. Pushing the boxer, in this case in the corner that he will be surprised in the end and the only thing he can do is to sign the contract without the guarantee of receiving a purse split until the fight is over.


As long as it is a non-PBC fighter he can fight a opponent. It might not be a name opponent, but at least a good dance partner, a champion who has a power and so we will see how Crawford boxing skills will be tested against a Avanesyan aggressive style.

Crawford is the titleholder and with all those past fights it shows that he still has the upper hand here, bookies are just following that trend and place odds according to how the system works, we might see adjustment or changes plus additional available odd when the schedule is near or in the live events.

Nothing to say but expecting for Crawford to win and negotiate again against Spence if the other champ will win against Thurman on their schedule mandatory fight.

It's that Crawford's plans went in another direction, he either wanted a fight like that, he wanted the fight against Spence, I think this was where Crawford burned almost all his energy to make that fight happen, that in fact I'm one of those who They think that he has been training very hard just for that fight, but it hasn't materialized yet, and I think it will be very difficult if Crawford can pull it off if he loses to David, so these are the things to think about first, yes. things did not happen, go for this one that is the clearest change, despite the fact that it is longer but it is possible that Craqwfoer wins and that over there in the Spence fight he loses it, everything is in the possibilities and statistics as possible.


Without a doubt, Crawford is the undisputed leader in this fight, for me he is a fighter who is always a favorite in any boxing scenario, however for me there is something here that he must and wants to show, he wants to show that he is at the level and that he can do anything to fight against him, the fight against Spence could not be finalized, but if Spence loses his fight, it is obvious that he will accept his proposal, but if he is more intelligent, he does not challenge him anymore and expects Spence to challenge him, because there the roles change, the one who should show interest now would be Spence but not Crawford, in the event that both win, I think that Crawford's duty will continue to feel that way, calls Spence's attention.

It went another direction because he has to move-on rather than waiting for Spence and Al again to change their mind, he already waited and wasted several months for Spence to finish his fight against Ugas because he thought that they are also interested especially now that Bob Arum is already out of the equation, but even after that, still not possible.

So, Crawford is now fighting this David Avanesyan just to keep him in check because he haven't fought anyone for a year already. Not what's the next move, we will likely know about it next year because Spence also got a fight with the former champion, Keith Thurman. If Thurman will upset Spence, I bet Crawford will jump directly next as long as there's no contract for a rematch with Spence-Thurman.

It sounds like David Avanesyan is just a bum that Terrence Crawford will just dispose easily of. Probably because Avanesyan is not that popular. The division is flocked with amazing talents but the problem is they all belonged to different promoters and networks.

1. Errol Spence (WBA/WBC/IBF)- PBC/Showtime/Fox
2. Keith Thurman- PBC/Showtime/Fox
3. Vergil Ortiz- GBP/DAZN
4. Eimantas Stanionis- PBC/Showtime/Fox
5. Boots Ennis- PBC/Showtime/Fox

IMO, Avanesyan will beat Thurman. The only impressive performance Thurman made after his accident and long layoff was his losing effort against Manny Pacquiao. Probably he was motivated because he was fighting a legend but the rest of his return bouts from Josesito Lopez to Mario Barrios were all mediocre levels.

If both wins Spence will continue to make his alibis, not sure though but on my take here Crawford is willing to adjust if the demand coning from Spence is realistic but it seems that on the negotiation side, both are not willing to sign the deal to make this fight happen, we may see them back on the table if both wins their respective fight.

For now, we will wait for the outcome of their matches and hope that they will negotiate and manage to close the deal and sign the contract.

Crawford has the obvious disadvantage of being out of the game for a long time. He will probably be out of shape and not fit for fighting. My money is definitely not on Crawford.

As far as popularity goes:
I think it has something to do with popularity being a kind of "measuring stick". But I think non-celeb personalities without social media might be disadvantaged here, so statistics will not tell you anything. Or perhaps the popularity is the measuring factor for any sport. Nobody would like a bad footballer, just like nobody would like a bad fighter. So obviously for the fans of boxxing, the best. Most skilled and most often winning boxxer will be the most popular. Nothing wrong with that.

I guess popularity in a single sport like boxing equals greatness?. At least with a good record, you might become popular because you are beating anyone. However, another measuring stick is the quality of your opponents, if you have 0 lost but you all face tomato can fighters then I guess you can't be called great.

And so we will just have to wait for this fight, Avanesyan says that he will shock the world, but we all know that he has a slim chances of winning.

Unless Crawford become a shot boxer overnight and didn't prepare good enough in this fight.

Nice PR for him but we are not going to see a result that would shock the world, he should fight hard than talk hard because people won't be convinced by his statement. Being Humble is more appreciated than being strong in words without actions.  With that said, think this fight will end early.

Let's just forget that fight because no matter how will they sugar coat it, the outcome is the same, Spence and Crawford will not meet at least for now that Crawford is still a threat on Spence's belts. We cannot even confirm if their fight will happen even if Crawford can meet and agrees on every demand that the opposite camp will ask nor who's really scared, is it Spence or Al Haymon. For me, I'm thinking that Spence wanted that fight, but Haymon don't want to take that path because it's too risky and it will mean that they won't be the top dog on the division anymore and the only one who controls the big fights.

Using his mouth to hype his name I'm pretty sure that he will taste the reflection of his statement as Crawford will buy that and use it as inspiration to make sure winning this match, maybe it's also just a part of attracting viewers and readers since the fight is almost a week from now and they are in need of hypes for this fight.

I like your statement that people will not be convinced by words but by actions inside the ring. His performance will state if he will be able to make things happen and shock the boxing world in snatching the belt from Crawford.

Yeah, I don't see David Avanesyan pulling off a win here that will shock the world, he is just hyping his fight so typically they will throw words there for PR stunt so that boxing fans is going to see the fight and maybe beat on him to win.

But it will not happen since Crawford has a high level of boxing IQ and he will used your tools against you. If David chooses to be aggressive then Crawford will counter him, pulling short shots will moving backward. He has done this before and can do it against Avanesyan.

This David Avanesyan is just nowhere near Terence Crawford's level, even the top dogs in the welterweight division is somewhat afraid of the current Crawford. So, I really don't expect that David can give him struggles, he's just a stepping-stone for Crawford and a mere tune-up fight to maintain Crawford's shape before he fights one of the strongest guys on the stated division. Not expecting an upset here, certainly not this time that Crawford still haven't had the chance to cement his legacy.

Here is the video of the official weigh-in and face to face

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYG04P-WlqU

Both fighters weigh below the 147 lbs, Avanesyan really confident that he will pull an upset.

Crawford though is just relaxed and probably will give his hometown a good fight against a game Avanesyan.

Well, to be honest, I don't see Avanesyan as soft, I know that Crawford has incredible preparation, also because I am one of those who thinks that Crawford was preparing for a long time for the fight against Spence that never happened, so he had to look for a fight in any way not to get cold and obviously to be able to get a blank and set aside money, money that I'm sure he doesn't like at all, but this is no guarantee that if he wins he can and should fight against Spence, I think here Spnece He noticed all of Spence's movement and there had to be something that didn't add up and that's why he didn't want to fight against him.


Oops, this is already giving me nerves, I have really been waiting for this fight with great anticipation, because I know everything that Crawford has prepared for, if my calculations or rather my foresight does not fail, I think that Crawfrord has been preparing for a long time. many months before, because he had his fight against Spence well prepared, now this change of plans has meant that he can see himself in a different way, now with an opponent like Avanesyan I don't know how to trust him, it could be that a very surprise arises Unpleasant for Crawford, it's all in the odds, and after a lot of preparation things can get out of hand and the stakes can be off.

Terence Crawford 146.6 vs. David Avanesyan 146.8 – Weigh-in results


Source:https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/terence-crawford-146-6-vs-david-avanesyan-146-8-weigh-in-results/ (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/terence-crawford-146-6-vs-david-avanesyan-146-8-weigh-in-results/)

Watching some fight highlights of Avanesyan, I find him too slow for Crawford, and also, he is not good with his defense, so most likely this bout is going to end early. With that being said, I'll go with Crawford winning via KO in rounds 1-3, and the odds for the is +740.

I doubt Crawford can finish Avanesyan in the early rounds because Crawford is usually slow and play more defensive in the early rounds. After he learn his opponent strategy and gesture, he will try to give pressure and wait until the opponent make a mistake, then he will do counter punch in the right place. Crawford has a power to beat every boxers in his weight, but he's not really over power to beat in the early rounds.

Style makes a fight if Avanesyan goes all out in the early rounds Crawford will handle this quickly, Crawford is boxing's best finisher and of course, he wants to impress his hometown this is a four-year-in-the-making fight for his hometown and I don't see Avanesyan getting an upset here, this is a preparation for his fight with Spence hopefully it will push through, and this is his hometown the best is not who's going to win but what round Crawford will knock out Avanesyan, I hope Avanesyan will offer resistance on this fight.

I short Crawford has a good offense offenses in the middle and late rounds it because he is though and very wise moves in early rounds we can say that he can defend himself against many punches by his opponent but in the right time and in the middle or late round then Crawford knock out or burst his opponent. Also we all know that Crawford is counter puncher boxer which is if his opponent got a mistake then Crawford can hit or have a good punch.

NO upset happen here, Crawford has control of the fight from the first round.

And then a massive right hand knocking out David Avanesyan cold in the canvass in round 6. Yes, I know that this is a cherry pick fight for Crawford and we wanted him to fight Spence. But he just shows and probably sending message to Spence or even the upcoming Jarod Ennis.

As expected Crawford did not disappoint us it was a straight left hand that knocks Avanesyan out Avanesyan put up a gallant fight, Crawford is slow in the early rounds of the fight, which is expected as he is coming from long inactivity but once he got his grooves he is all set to knock out Avanesyan in the interviews when asked if Spence is the next one he answered
hopefully that near future is going to happen next year's first quarter.

With the previous six win streak via TKO by Avanesyan, didn't prove anything when he fight with Crawford, he's the one who get beaten via TKO lol. It's really one sided fight to be honest, Avanesyan's punch didn't even hurt Crawford and Crawford can control the fight until he already learn Avanesyan's strategy. The other guy e.g. Spence will high likely to win against Thurman, so we're only need to wait the big match will happen in next year.

this fight may have been like a tune-up fight of crawford for thurman or spence jr. either one of these boxers. but let's see who's next for crawford. the most anticipated fight with spence jr, should really happen while the two are still in prime. they can get a huge payout on this bout. their respective promoters should think about their boxers here.

I did watch some snippets of the fight and yeah, I would say that Crawford put a show in front of his hometown. Defense, 3 punch combinations, switching stance, and then he let David hit him in the chin to test his power. But that counter right was so fast that you can't see it, they both throw a punch simultaneously, but it was Crawford who connects perfect and David just lay down there. And when he goes back to his senses, he really didn't know where he was, he was really knock out cold literally.

Avanesyan is always covering his face that's why he cannot hit more precise punches, Crawford, on the other hand, is just doing the right timing to hit him and that made him win in the fight. The quickness of Crawford is still there, and a good ring IQ as well, this was a good fight but it's a clear mismatch.

We have discussed many times how Crawford is one of the beste boxers in 147 lbs because of his ring IQ and he proved it here. He totally control the fight and didn't give David a chance although there are times that he hit Crawford but it doesn't have any effect on his chin. So I must say that he was chin tested in this fight and passed the test.

And then that counter, looks like a straight right to me and seems to be doesn't have any power at all.

But the timing is perfect and Avanesyan didn't expect that, and then it was over for him, laying down in the canvass.

Terence Crawford won the fight by a KO, and as expected, Crawford don't need that much time to finish his opponent and it only took him 6 rounds to figure out before he knocked out David Avanesyan. Don't really expecting that Crawford will have a struggle here, this is just a mere tune-up fight and a cherry picked fight meant only to keep Crawford in shape and at least fight once this year before he moves towards a heavier name.

Anyway, Spence and Thurman's mandatory fight might be delayed from what it forecasted because Spence was in an accident.
Link: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-11525173/Boxer-Errol-Spence-Jr-escapes-frightening-car-wreck-14-year-old-took-parents-car.html

According to Terence Crawford itself, those early rounds are just a warm-up for him and that might be the reason why Avanesyan can connect those shots during the early rounds. Since those connected shots by Avanesyan didn't bring any damage, Crawford now concludes that he can be able to finish his opponent a late few rounds after doing some analysis on the first 3 rounds.

And the rest is history......

During the post-fight interview, Crawford's trainer said that Bud is always open to moving up from 147 to 154 and they even claimed that no one in the 147 and even in 154 can't beat Terence Crawford at this point of his career. I might agree on 147 since the fight against Spence Jr. doesn't have any clear signs of happening but on 154, there are solid opponents there like PBC's cash cows Jermell Charlo and Brian Castano.

As expected Crawford as a technical fighter will always size up his opponent in the early rounds.  Once he got the grasp of the opponents movement and strategy, he will move according to what he think as effective counters and look for way to negate his opponents offense.  We have seen Crawford do this strategy on the majority of his opponent and it is not surprising that Avanesyan got KO'ed after those sizing up.


That just talks, of course, they will exaggerate what their boxer can do to at least increase the popularity or price of the boxer.  I won't believe anything unless he has proven it.  Besides Crawford hasn't fought all the contenders in 147 lbs. much more on 154 lbs.

More likely at least for me, a Charlo fight will be great to see. They have been going on back and forth on social media and I will say that Crawford own Charlo on that one hehe.

https://i.imgur.com/dFiIf2I.png

https://twitter.com/terencecrawford/status/1598015279748956160

And now that Crawford has beaten David, for sure there will be a lot of noise again for him and Charlo to meet up at 154 lbs so that we will see who is the best and it will be good for Crawford to conquer 154 lbs too.

A Charlo fight is also a good fight, this is one of the reasons why being a freelancer for a boxer will do him good he can strike a deal in any promotion to fight their fighters, I like to believe that Crawford really wants a Spence fight and Spence promoters are the one that hinders it, because freelance boxers can make more money because he is not a third party promotion who will take a slice on his earnings.
Hopefully next year we will see big fights for Crawford not cherry picked fight like this, this fight is so easy for him.

And if I recalled it right, Jermell Charlo and Terence Crawford already exchanged heated arguments before.

Maybe too overconfident for Crawford's camp to say that no one can beat them in the 154 but they can prove it once they are settled.

But since Crawford is a free agent, I think another cherry-picked boxer will be matched to him if he will still stay on 147.

As expected Terence Crawford gave the boxing fans around the world a good fight. Despite being known to be a slow starter, that strategy of Crawford to feel his opponent early in the fight has actually proven to be right and effective time and again.

Avanesyan has actually connected some clean shots, went aggressive, cornered Crawford a number of times, but those didn't hurt Crawford much. Crawford remained as himself, composed, all throughout the early rounds until he completely took over the fight and finish Avanesyan at 6.

You are right, as you have said, the boxers before Avanesyan had beaten them, this cannot be denied that he has a good record for him, but thinking about what you say, I think that Avanesyan will try to change the course of those directions in the future. boxing where Crawford has been victorious, for me it is one of its premises, but since there are many people who always seek to have better profits, it seems that many bettors seek to bet on Crawford, as I have seen in some boxing forums that the greatest tendency is towards him, this gets exciting, because if Crawford does not emerge victorious it would be a success for those who bet on Favor of Avanesyan.



Well it's like you say, for me Crawford had such an impressive preparation that he didn't stop Avanesyan's attacks much but he himself knows that his tremendous pleasure will be to fight Spence, now I wonder, seeing Spence this demonstration of Crawford, Will you want to fight him? This puts me in doubt, they are very great boxers and both have a different fighting style, I saw Crawford with much more maturity in the way he fought, I don't know about the rest, but this fight showed a lot of his superiority on Crawford's part, I think that in these conditions a fight between him and Spence would be very interesting, now I would really like to see that fight.

That's how dangerous Crawford is because he can absorb punches and does not lose his stamina. Hopefully, this is his last tune-up fight before fighting Spence because we are anticipating that big fight to happen. Spence seemed to be unsure if he would fight though because even a mandatory fight against Thurman still has no fixed date yet.

You said it right, Crawford indeed is capable of absorbing solid combinations and once he already feels your strength he will start adjusting with how he see his advantage, he's more on defense but once he already read your style and he see his advantage he will start throwing punches which the opponents will be surprise.

A fight against Spence might be delayed, as if you read the post above there are some exchanges of social post against Charlo and Crawford.

Possible that with good promoters that will arrange this possible fight, money will flow while fans will enjoy.

I guess that fight has moved to a much later date because Spence's situation recently regarding that car crash that he was involved, no final details about that mandatory fight yet and people are now confused what's with Spence and Al Haymon because they are still so silent about it. They should know that they should ought to at least give a few details because there are people waiting especially their own fans.

Crawford is one of those deadliest boxer in all time you can not underestimate him as we all know what he got in the ring. Maybe we can say that his opponent is stronger than him but his strategy and have a tough body can speak to us that he would be a champion. He can manage the punches by his opponent and in the mid and late fight he's getting stronger and have the accuracy of his punches.

That is what he is, that is why he is named as one of the heavy names of the 147 lbs. and 154 lbs., and that is no doubt. He likes to study his opponents first to lessen the risks of a defeat, he is not the type of boxer who will do a head-on fight without thinking steps ahead.

He can always jump 147 to 154 if he wanted to and I think he's been vocal about that but the top dog in 154 lbs. is also under Al Haymon's stable, so we somehow know what's going to happen. Too bad for him because he cannot unify belts in the stated divisions because they won't let him.

Deadliest inside 147 pounds to 154 pounds, but we know that he is getting older and older each year. Last September he already turned 35 years old and that leaves him 3-4 years more before father time catches up on him. I hope I'm wrong but I'm seeing that Spence is playing with him until he gets more older before he tries to unite all 4 belts at 147 lbs.

A good strategy to have better advantage just lucky guess though ::) but yes, that also count there are many differences when aging already hits you, even you are very good and your fighting styles are intact the problem is your reflexes, just basing my statement with Pacquiao last fight against Ugas,

with most of his interviews he always mentioned that he knows that he can still do it but his body is no longer replying from what he wanted to do, there are things that he can no longer control and we see what next after that last defeat, he retires.

Certainly, that is not a lucky guess because that's true and that is what Spence and Al Haymon wanted, to have better advantage, because why would they try and prolong the fight if they are not scared with Crawford. Giving Crawford a hope with no intentions is already a trick to delay their fight and until the undisputed haven't materialized because of some unclear issues that they aren't disclosing to the public.

Not just Pacquiao mate, like Donaire as well. We all know that these two boxers can still give a good fight as their respective strengths do still live within them but it is their body who cannot keep up anymore.