Fury v Chisora 3 3rd of December

[Welsh]

Why Joshua don't want to fight or avoid fighting with Fury?
I think he is probably scared because he knows that Fury can outsmart him and win the fight.
This would be great fight to watch, I think this could be last Fury fight, he is now saying about become used car salesman, because he needs to have some purpose

I find it's usually not the fighters. The fighters want to fight, and for their own legacy they want to test themselves. After all, most of them have rather big egos. However, I find that their promotions, and managers tend to hold off from the big fights to try, and take as much money as they can by milking the cash cow.

Fury is trying to sell this fight, but at the end of the day he'll know how much of a joke it is. Fair enough, Chisora once was a great fighter, but he's never been the great. Fury is, and he should be fighting the next best which is either Joshua or Usyk in my opinion. Even if it isn't Joshua, that's who we want to see him fight. UK, against UK. Otherwise, match Joshua up with Wilder.

This is why I've pretty much fully converted to UFC at least we get the fights we want, because they don't wrap their fighters records in bubble wrap.

[robelneo]

The main event is not worth watching its more attractive to watch the co-main event between Dubois and Lerena,Chisora is an overstaying boxer he should have retired a long time he once fought one of the Klitscko back in 2012 after calling out Usyk and Anthony Joshua here he is now fighting a has-been boxer in Chisora, this fight will greatly benefit Chisora as he is making money here before he retires because Chisora is not worth to be the main event anymore, this is a farewell bout for Chisora and who knows if he can deliver an upset here, almost impossible but it could happen.

[hilariousetc]

Honestly, I'm just sick of boxing's matchmaking at this point. This fight is a joke, when there was much better fights on the table for us fans. I think Fury likely knows this is ridiculous deep down. I'm a Fury fan, and I think he's the best of this generation, and beats Joshua, and likely Usyk if they did face, right. However, part of me wants to see him lose in this fight, just as a wake up call for boxers, and their promoters. They try to milk the cash cows for as long as possible, that when we do end up having the big named fighters fighting the other top fighters, they're well out of their prime.

The public has basically been robbed of a Fury vs Joshua fight for a few years now. I didn't mind with the Wilder trilogy as you always had that threat, but Chisora is well out of it these days, and it would take Fury being complacent to lose here, which honestly I've seen him get complacent before. The Wallin fight comes to mind.

Of course he knows it's a farce but he's got to sell it anyway. I would also agree with you that it would serve him right if he did lose this fight and part of me hopes he does. Hopefully Chisora knows the chance he's been given and grabs it with both hands. He shouldn't throw away the best and likely last chance he will have to win those belts. I'm hoping he actually turns on the heat and forces Fury into matching him because if this just turns into a public sparring session Fury's fans are going to be pissed, especially in how much they've shelled out for the fight. Personally I think this is going to be a flop on all fronts.

Yeah, If Fury was going to go full force I'd go for a Fury KO early on but I think he's going to be fairly reserved for the first few rounds. Basically think of this as an open public sparring session. Fury and Chisora are somewhat friendly so think of this just as Fury giving him one last big pay day and for him to keep off the ring rust until the Usyk fight.  I suspect it will be quite a boring fight unless Chisora decides to go for glory and Fury has to turn up the heat to match him.

Do you know how are ticket sales and PPV going for this fight?
I expect stadium will be full unless there is some World Cup game in the same time, but I don't think England is playing in same time.

No. They're never going to release PPV numbers before a fight and they usually just lie about them after the fight. You can usually tell when a fight has flopped or not done as well as anticipated as they're vague about the numbers or waffle on about how it did better than expected or the numbers would surprise people without actually telling you the figure. They also say shit like the full numbers aren't in yet and we need to count them up from all providers. Bullshit. They know them in real time especially for the big markets. I'm not sure they will fill a stadium in freezing cold England for a fight even most Fury fans don't seem to care about and I doubt many will be buying the PPV either and I hope they don't. Fans should vote with their money by not giving it to them. It's the only way they'll listen. If these sorts of fights flop then they won't get made and the big ones like V Aj will instead because they know that will be a blockbuster and it sells itself.

Why Joshua don't want to fight or avoid fighting with Fury?
I think he is probably scared because he knows that Fury can outsmart him and win the fight.
This would be great fight to watch, I think this could be last Fury fight, he is now saying about become used car salesman, because he needs to have some purpose

I find it's usually not the fighters. The fighters want to fight, and for their own legacy they want to test themselves. After all, most of them have rather big egos. However, I find that their promotions, and managers tend to hold off from the big fights to try, and take as much money as they can by milking the cash cow.

Fury is trying to sell this fight, but at the end of the day he'll know how much of a joke it is. Fair enough, Chisora once was a great fighter, but he's never been the great. Fury is, and he should be fighting the next best which is either Joshua or Usyk in my opinion. Even if it isn't Joshua, that's who we want to see him fight. UK, against UK. Otherwise, match Joshua up with Wilder.

This is why I've pretty much fully converted to UFC at least we get the fights we want, because they don't wrap their fighters records in bubble wrap.

It's all parties involved but it's usually down to the fighters getting greedy in my opinion. Promoters just want the fights to happen because if they don't it's no money in their pocket.  The only caveat to that is I don't think Hearn really wants AJ to fight Fury next ideally because he knows another loss is going to only damage AJs brand. Bricktop seemed like he was desperate to make the AJ/Fury fight but it was Tyson's fault putting stupid deadlines on it. They should just be busy behind the scenes getting that fight sorted for the end of next year so there's no bullshit in the media; just get it sorted and announce it when the deal is done. Fury can fight Uysk and then maybe ta rematch and AJ can fight some bums and then they can have at it this time next year. Wilder fights Ruiz and then the winner can fight Fury in 2024 or if in 2023 if there's time and one of the other fights fall through.

[bbc.reporter]

Under 6.5 rounds might be the best bet for this. I speculate that Fury's opponent, because he felt he only won a raffle, might not have trained seriously.

I only think that Fury will make the fight longer because of home crowd.
He is absolute favorite and this fight is just a warm up and preparation training for Fury fight with Joshua, if this fight ever happens.

Yeah, If Fury was going to go full force I'd go for a Fury KO early on but I think he's going to be fairly reserved for the first few rounds. Basically think of this as an open public sparring session. Fury and Chisora are somewhat friendly so think of this just as Fury giving him one last big pay day and for him to keep off the ring rust until the Usyk fight.  I suspect it will be quite a boring fight unless Chisora decides to go for glory and Fury has to turn up the heat to match him. I'm more interested in how many people actually turn up to the venue. It's an open air stadium in December and nobody seems to be excited about this fight here in the UK so I'd expect it to be half full which wont be a good look (unless they end up giving a load of tickets away to save face). It's also the highest ever UK PPV so I don't think it's going to do good numbers on that front either.

However, if Tyson Fury would make this into a boring sparring seasion, there might not be enough demand to watch him for his next fight after Chisora. I speculate Fury will show his full power to excite everyone and remind all of the boxing fans that the unification against Usyk should not be missed hehehe. This will certainly also excite the promoters and many sponsors hehehe.

Also, similar to what you said, it is an open air stadium in December. Fury will not like to be in the ring in the cold very long hehehehe.

[Fundamentals Of]

Of course I voted for Fury. Fury against Chisora is not an even match. Chisora doesn't have what it takes to beat Fury. I think he cannot even beat those who were easily beaten by Fury. So it is no surprise that betting for Chisora in this match will give you almost 10.00 in odds. That's like saying the chance of Chisora winning this match is almost zero. Fury is the big favorite having 1.04 odds. If Fury beat Chisora not just once but twice when he was a lot younger and stronger, he will beat him now when he is already old and weak.

[coin-investor]

I was so excited because he is offering Joshua a big deal and he is also daring Usyk to unify the title but we don't know what happened suddenly he is fighting Chisora who I consider to be out of the league in the heavyweight after Wilder it seems he wants to take easy opponents like Whyte and now Chisora, there are worthy opponents like the former champion Andy Ruiz out there.
This is not worth betting and it's not even worth watching the WBC is losing prestige because Wilder is fighting easy and cherry-picked opponents

[bitzizzix]

Of course I voted for Fury. Fury against Chisora is not an even match. Chisora doesn't have what it takes to beat Fury. I think he cannot even beat those who were easily beaten by Fury. So it is no surprise that betting for Chisora in this match will give you almost 10.00 in odds. That's like saying the chance of Chisora winning this match is almost zero. Fury is the big favorite having 1.04 odds. If Fury beat Chisora not just once but twice when he was a lot younger and stronger, he will beat him now when he is already old and weak.

I also wonder why Fury easily beat him twice against Chisora, and the third time it's clear Fury will still win this third rematch.
the first was a comfortable points win for Fury, and the second was him beating Derek and handcuffing him like a sparring partner when Chisora pulled up to his corner.
and for the third match it might be a different story but Fury will still win it, and it will be an easy fight to predict.

[Welsh]

It's all parties involved but it's usually down to the fighters getting greedy in my opinion. Promoters just want the fights to happen because if they don't it's no money in their pocket.  The only caveat to that is I don't think Hearn really wants AJ to fight Fury next ideally because he knows another loss is going to only damage AJs brand. Bricktop seemed like he was desperate to make the AJ/Fury fight but it was Tyson's fault putting stupid deadlines on it. They should just be busy behind the scenes getting that fight sorted for the end of next year so there's no bullshit in the media; just get it sorted and announce it when the deal is done. Fury can fight Uysk and then maybe ta rematch and AJ can fight some bums and then they can have at it this time next year. Wilder fights Ruiz and then the winner can fight Fury in 2024 or if in 2023 if there's time and one of the other fights fall through.

Yeah, I was alluding to Hearne with milking the cash cow. If he fights Fury, it's likely another defeat in a row, and the fans will then start doubting his credentials. I like both of them, Fury is probably the only reason I still watch heavyweight boxing, but as I said above it would be justice to whoever's responsible for not making the bigger fights happen if he were to lose.

I don't want to see my favourite fighter lose his zero on his record, because ideally I want to see him clean up the division, and build a real legacy. Unfortunately, I'm just so sick, and tired of the shenanigans of boxing, that if he were to lose I don't think I'd be too bothered, and probably laugh it off.

It's a weird predicament like I said. Fury is my favourite boxer right now. Also, his deadline he set was absolutely ridiculous he would've known that sorting out the legals wouldn't have been rushed, and sorted out by then.

[Pmalek]

This isn't a fight anyone excited about boxing is looking forward to. I am sure the fight we all wanted to see was Fury vs Usyk, but something tells me both fighters don't want it. Fury was bad-mouthing Usyk who claims to be injured and that he has no time to prepare for the fight. Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't. Fury was also requesting too much money to come back from retirement to fight Usyk and it looks like no one was willing to offer him that paycheck. Deep down, I am not sure he is confident of beating the Ukrainian himself. So, he has to be satisfied with an easy fight instead.

[Welsh]

This isn't a fight anyone excited about boxing is looking forward to. I am sure the fight we all wanted to see was Fury vs Usyk, but something tells me both fighters don't want it. Fury was bad-mouthing Usyk who claims to be injured and that he has no time to prepare for the fight. Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't. Fury was also requesting too much money to come back from retirement to fight Usyk and it looks like no one was willing to offer him that paycheck. Deep down, I am not sure he is confident of beating the Ukrainian himself. So, he has to be satisfied with an easy fight instead.

The thing is if it's a sell out, which I imagine it will be or close too boxing will continue to follow this pattern. It's money, and from both promoters points of view, Chisora gets a shot that he probably shouldn't, and Fury gets a lot of money for minimal risk. It's basically milking the money of the fans, without too much risk for either fighters.

I won't be watching it, and I won't be betting on it. Fury or at least Fury's team is probably a major part of why the bigger fights haven't been made. I know he's made it seem the other way around, but at this point he's just looking for his retirement fund. At least, that's the impression I got.

[KTChampions]

By the way, for the sake of interest, I checked the quotes of bookmakers and they are eloquent: 1.05 against 10.
It is unlikely that anyone will be interested in such odds on one side or the other. It is clear that the coefficient cannot be higher on Fury, but Chisora could be quoted as 15-20. 10 is just a laugh.

[Accardo]

I was so excited because he is offering Joshua a big deal and he is also daring Usyk to unify the title but we don't know what happened suddenly he is fighting Chisora who I consider to be out of the league in the heavyweight after Wilder it seems he wants to take easy opponents like Whyte and now Chisora, there are worthy opponents like the former champion Andy Ruiz out there.
This is not worth betting and it's not even worth watching the WBC is losing prestige because Wilder is fighting easy and cherry-picked opponents

That would have been an interesting all British fight, Anthony Joshua accepted at first, I'm surprised to see that it got stalled by AJ's management I guess. Though FURY's fight against Chisora, to me, is considered a warm up fight in preparation for new year's fight against Usyk. Hopefully the fight holds.

[Sanitough]

I have no idea they had already fought before, I only know Fury when he beats Wilder and his opponent now seemed like not a popular boxer. What happened to the rumored fight between Fury and Usyk?

In this fight, I would certainly choose Fury to win, he is the king in heavy weight division so I don't him losing in this battle.

[Shamm]

I have no idea they had already fought before, I only know Fury when he beats Wilder and his opponent now seemed like not a popular boxer. What happened to the rumored fight between Fury and Usyk?

In this fight, I would certainly choose Fury to win, he is the king in heavy weight division so I don't him losing in this battle.

For me furry has a very high percentage of winning against Chisora because we all know how furry will fight inside the ring he is the monsters king in his division and I don't think so if chisora will defeat him via knockout maybe he had a chance to win but by a unanimous decision only I think. And we all know that furry will be the most favorite here in this matchup but If chisora will trained hard and find a good strategy to win against the king then maybe he has a chance to win.

[Yogee]

By the way, for the sake of interest, I checked the quotes of bookmakers and they are eloquent: 1.05 against 10.
It is unlikely that anyone will be interested in such odds on one side or the other. It is clear that the coefficient cannot be higher on Fury, but Chisora could be quoted as 15-20. 10 is just a laugh.

Even the odds for Fury winning by KO at 1.36 is too low for me. Fight going under or over 6.5 rounds at 2.11 and 1.70 respectively may be worth a shot. At least way better than choosing him as the winner. I have a feeling that he will have fun in the first six and get more serious in the later rounds.

[Welsh]

I have no idea they had already fought before, I only know Fury when he beats Wilder and his opponent now seemed like not a popular boxer. What happened to the rumored fight between Fury and Usyk?

What always happens; money gets in the way. That's pretty much what the whole discussion has been about around the event. Why, is this fight happening, and not another with a top heavyweight.

Fury gets criticised for his antics a lot, but he's pretty much fought everyone of his generation except Joshua. Usyk is somewhat new to the heavyweight division so you could argue he's not of his generation, but at the end of the day if Fury fought Usyk, and Joshua he'd be considered the greatest of his generation at the very least. There wouldn't be much of an argument for everything other than that.

I think Joshua loses against Wilder, and I think Usyk could potentially lose against him too. I think Fury demolishes both guys. However, that all depends on when, and if we get the fight. If we get the fight when Fury's out of his prime, then who knows what could happen.

[Balmain]

I have no idea they had already fought before, I only know Fury when he beats Wilder and his opponent now seemed like not a popular boxer. What happened to the rumored fight between Fury and Usyk?

In this fight, I would certainly choose Fury to win, he is the king in heavy weight division so I don't him losing in this battle.

For me furry has a very high percentage of winning against Chisora because we all know how furry will fight inside the ring he is the monsters king in his division and I don't think so if chisora will defeat him via knockout maybe he had a chance to win but by a unanimous decision only I think. And we all know that furry will be the most favorite here in this matchup but If chisora will trained hard and find a good strategy to win against the king then maybe he has a chance to win.

I don't think he can ever win against the king. Fury is at its prime right now. I just recently watched the two previous fights of these two. Fury is very good tactically. He secures the win compared to Chisora, he uses the ring well and fights very cleverly. In this fight, he will aim to tire his opponent from time to time with distance to the body and liver against his opponent, then I guess he will gradually increase the strength in the rounds. If I was betting on this match, I would assume that Fury would win by the referee's decision.

[Welsh]

If I was betting on this match, I would assume that Fury would win by the referee's decision.

Fury should be able to put Chisora away. The only thing I'm getting from the build up is this is sort of being treated like a exhibition fight. I know Fury said he's going to let his hands go, but you can never really go by what he says prior to the fight. He's been accused of giving Chisora a pay day who's towards the end of his career.

So, while Fury should be able to put him away, with relative ease he'll probably go easy on him, which putting a bet on it going the distance might be a decent bet. Obviously, with Fury winning on points. Got to be better than the odds of 1.03-1.05 that were being offered for a Fury victory.

[Bananington]

I don't think he can ever win against the king. Fury is at its prime right now. I just recently watched the two previous fights of these two. Fury is very good tactically. He secures the win compared to Chisora, he uses the ring well and fights very cleverly.

It will be an entertaining fight, maybe Chisora will surprise us, but I highly doubt that whatever tricks he pull up, that Fury will be caught off guard. The major question in about this fight should be how the win will come , not about who will win. Fury has mentioned his addiction to boxing and fighting in the ring and how difficult retirement will be to him when considered, In this stage in his career, he is still keen knocking out and has been practicing with his trainer SugarHill Steward, a strategy to ensure that his punches are more effective for a KO.

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12040/12760318/tyson-fury-terrified-of-giving-up-boxing-its-more-addictive-than-anything-on-the-planet

[KTChampions]

By the way, for the sake of interest, I checked the quotes of bookmakers and they are eloquent: 1.05 against 10.
It is unlikely that anyone will be interested in such odds on one side or the other. It is clear that the coefficient cannot be higher on Fury, but Chisora could be quoted as 15-20. 10 is just a laugh.

Even the odds for Fury winning by KO at 1.36 is too low for me. Fight going under or over 6.5 rounds at 2.11 and 1.70 respectively may be worth a shot. At least way better than choosing him as the winner. I have a feeling that he will have fun in the first six and get more serious in the later rounds.

I agree. Ridiculous odds and in general it makes no sense to put money on a garbage fight, since, for example, Fury, knowing the garbage nature of the fight, will try to “work out” the fee in full and will not knock out Chisora specifically in the first 10 rounds. It is difficult to guess the scenario of the battle, since the usual analysis is powerless here.