About My Red Trust (Remove Request)

[BitcoinTurk]

Hello dear Bitcointalk community,

After a long time, I'm back and I'm here! Let me made a quick summarize what I do while I'm not active in here for about two years.

In last two years, I already stop trading in alt coins and I start to made a research and trade NFT's in Solana ecosystem. After Solana, I try to trade degen NFT's in Ethereal but these trades are not good and go bankrupt. It's a very tiny story about my last two years in crypto industry. I know, you're going to ask me why did you mentioned these and why are you here? Here is the answer;

Before I became inactive in here I'm a very active user in Turkish local form. I already created very beneficial topics in local form. While I'm producing these topics, I also joined few signature campaigns to earn a pocket money. After few months, I start to write messages in general forums than the worst scenario happens... Because of my comment in Vispilio's signature management, Lauda and JollyGood leave me red trust and my membership becomes like a bin. So, here is my request;

As everyone can see, Vispilio is not scammed anyone and I had red trust because of my comment in his topic. So, I want to remove these unfair red trusts from my profile and join few signature campaigns to earn some pocket money while I'm producing new topics and comments. Please review these red trusts and give me one more change to become more active and effective member. Please consider my old activity in local forum and general forum in past. Now, I can speak better English than before, so please remove my red trusts.

Thank you for your empath, time and decision.

Best regards,
BitcoinTurk

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[yahoo62278]

The only way you will get the negative removed from your account is to message the users who gave you the negative. You can ask the DT users to remove those users from DT but that likely will not happen. It might be easier to take up your issue with Jollygood.

[BitMaxz]

This section won't gonna help you to remove negative trust if you want to remove the negative trust then contact those people who left the negative trust in your profile because no one here could remove it.

Since they put you to ignore list I suggest make a new forum account to reach them. Make sure you can give a valid reason why do you want to remove red tag.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Let me get this straight

Is this the post that got you the negative tag?

He has successful and good works and I am sure that he will do the best in campaign management.  In addition to being a very popular member in the Turkish forum, which is his native language, he is also a member who has contributed a lot to the forum members.  I am sure that he will do the campaign management by giving the right to his job, I wish him success.

The reference directs to the archive of a thread, but that's the post i got in the thread.

[avp2306]

Asking sympathy to other people will not help your case since it will just trigger not to do it by the people who put a red trust to you.  Much better if you discuss this matter privately to the person who left you negative trust since if you are sincere on your intentions is pure then he might forgive you.

[BitcoinTurk]

The only way you will get the negative removed from your account is to message the users who gave you the negative. You can ask the DT users to remove those users from DT but that likely will not happen. It might be easier to take up your issue with Jollygood.

I think it'll be impossible because Lauda's last activity date is 19 October 2020. Maybe I can try my luck with sending a message to JollyGood but IDK if he'll remove the red trust. Isn't here any other options to remove my red trust?

This section won't gonna help you to remove negative trust if you want to remove the negative trust then contact those people who left the negative trust in your profile because no one here could remove it.

Since they put you to ignore list I suggest make a new forum account to reach them. Make sure you can give a valid reason why do you want to remove red tag.

I also guess that open a topic will not solve my problem but I want to try my luck with this way. I'll try to contact with JollyGood but I'm not sure if he reply me back or not. Also, if I open a new account maybe it's going to be another problem when I had multiple accounts in here. That's why I created this topic and want to find some other ways to solve this problem.

Let me get this straight

Is this the post that got you the negative tag?

He has successful and good works and I am sure that he will do the best in campaign management.  In addition to being a very popular member in the Turkish forum, which is his native language, he is also a member who has contributed a lot to the forum members.  I am sure that he will do the campaign management by giving the right to his job, I wish him success.

The reference directs to the archive of a thread, but that's the post i got in the thread.

Yes, the post is correct. When you examine the comment made here and the profile of the commented person, it is clearly seen that I am faced with an unfair red trust notice. For this reason, is it possible to remove this red trust any way?

Asking sympathy to other people will not help your case since it will just trigger not to do it by the people who put a red trust to you.  Much better if you discuss this matter privately to the person who left you negative trust since if you are sincere on your intentions is pure then he might forgive you.

I know, but everyone should think this case in their case because there is unfair red trust notification is sender by DT member. I'll try to contact with him to solve this.


EDIT: Of course, he's blocked me for sending a personal message that's why I cannot contact with him from private message. I don't want to open a new account in here to have a new red trust because of multiple account. How can I solve this issue without reaching him?

[yahoo62278]

EDIT: Of course, he's blocked me for sending a personal message that's why I cannot contact with him from private message. I don't want to open a new account in here to have a new red trust because of multiple account. How can I solve this issue without reaching him?

You cannot. Only the person who gave you the tag can remove it unless other DT members remove Jollygood from DT which will not happen without good reason. Giving you red trust is not a good enough reason. I'm sure he is getting notifications from this topic with his name being said so many times. If he is interested in giving you a chance he will respond, but don't get your hopes up.

[NotATether]

The only way you will get the negative removed from your account is to message the users who gave you the negative. You can ask the DT users to remove those users from DT but that likely will not happen. It might be easier to take up your issue with Jollygood.

I think it'll be impossible because Lauda's last activity date is 19 October 2020. Maybe I can try my luck with sending a message to JollyGood but IDK if he'll remove the red trust. Isn't here any other options to remove my red trust?

Lauda has not been on DT for ages ever since terminating his account so it wouldn't matter anyway.

You could make a case to your campaign manager that these negs are (in your opinion) superficial if you can even get one to review your trust ratings. I mean, there's a reason why campaigns have a rule "negative valid DT trust is not allowed" - if some spamming painter reaches DT2 then that could cause problems for a lot of people.

To give a practical example, my trust settings show yahoo himself as +31/=2/-1, the sole negative comes from Quickseller with comment "running high-risk escrow service" () - If suddenly Quickseller became DT again, that wouldn't exclude him from campaigns either.

[Charles-Tim]

Because of my comment in Vispilio's signature management, Lauda and JollyGood leave me red trust and my membership becomes like a bin. So, here is my request;

Lauda is no more active on this forum, and from what I saw on your trust page, Lauda trust does not matter, the only negative trust you have that matters more now is JollyGood's red trust. Just like others have commented already, you have no option than to send PM to JollyGood about the negative trust removal, only him can remove it. About Lauda's negative trust, he is no more active and you do not have to be worries about that. If you want to join a campaign, post good and continue to contribute to the community here with gold post.

Always check service board to know if there is any offer, apply if there is any from new or existing campaigns. You can use the telegram bot to track already existing campaigns and your forum email for new topics on service board which can be about new campaign.

[LoyceV]

I want to remove these unfair red trusts from my profile and join few signature campaigns to earn some pocket money while I'm producing new topics and comments.

You've barely posted in the past years, since you got tagged. I don't think "wanting to earn money" is a very convincing reason to remove negative tags.

Lauda is no more active on this forum, and from what I saw on your trust page, Lauda trust does not matter

Lauda has been going on and off DT2 for the past years, so it's likely the cat will be back on DT2 again in the future. But I don't think this case can influence Lauda's DT2-status at all, and the feedback for sure won't be removed.

I don't think BitcoinTurk is the right person to question how others use the Trust and feedback system:

Trust list for: BitcoinTurk (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (434 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2022-10-22_Sat_05.08h)
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BitcoinTurk Trusts these users' judgement:
1. EFS (Trust: +12 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (4) 453 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. teramit (Trust: neutral) (373 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. srknbyr (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (81 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. Lydian (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (186 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. techman (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (27 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. varanvaran (Trust: neutral) (5 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. mhanbostanci (Trust: +1 / =0 / -2) (467 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. Kalemder (Trust: +1 / =0 / -1) (1218 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. DarkStar_ (Trust: +64 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (38) 2083 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. Vispilio (Trust: +3 / =3 / -2) (DT1 (-5) 1116 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. Blacknavy (Trust: +5 / =1 / -2) (1041 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. AlyattesLydia (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (467 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. PHI1618 (Trust: #  +3 / =2 / -0) (1233 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. El-Cezeri (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (214 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. Bthd (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (2021 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

You've included many users with negative feedback. I only checked Vispilio's Sent feedback (because JollyGood tagged you for promoting Vispilio), and a large part of it isn't what I consider correct use of the Trust system.
It would be a good start to reevaluate the way you use the Trust system before complaining about others.

[examplens]

Of course, he's blocked me for sending a personal message that's why I cannot contact with him from private message. I don't want to open a new account in here to have a new red trust because of multiple account. How can I solve this issue without reaching him?

you can't do anything without him about removing his feedback. But JollyGood has been mentioned here several times, so I believe that he will surely know about this thread, if he doesn't get in touch here, it's probably because he won't, and not because he hasn't seen it.

I want to remove these unfair red trusts from my profile and join few signature campaigns to earn some pocket money while I'm producing new topics and comments.

You've barely posted in the past years, since you got tagged. I don't think "wanting to earn money" is a very convincing reason to remove negative tags.

To me, this sounds quite arrogant. He must be paid for his contribution to this forum.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

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I want to remove these unfair red trusts from my profile and join few signature campaigns to earn some pocket money while I'm producing new topics and comments.

You've barely posted in the past years, since you got tagged. I don't think "wanting to earn money" is a very convincing reason to remove negative tags.

To me, this sounds quite arrogant. He must be paid for his contribution to this forum.

Aren't all of us making money from our signature, avatar, personal text, website address space and possibly renting out whatever we can?

You cannot. Only the person who gave you the tag can remove it unless other DT members remove Jollygood from DT which will not happen without good reason. Giving you red trust is not a good enough reason. I'm sure he is getting notifications from this topic with his name being said so many times. If he is interested in giving you a chance he will respond, but don't get your hopes up.

Unfortunately other DTs who have JollyGood in their trust list still think he is the best police officer around LOL. Such abusive red tag from JollyGood is not anything new.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

None that i'm aware of. But since you only mention those 2 member (rather than all 5 members who gave you negative feedback), theoretically you can ask DT member to exclude those 2 members from DT system. But i doubt it'll happen.

I think OP is considering possible DT member's feedback. I looked at his feedback received history. Lauda and JollyGood seems two users who can be in the DT list considering their history. Possibility for others are very little unless some of them start actively contributing to the reputation system and in the future their feedback starts showing up as trusted feedback.

Everyone forgot about Lauda because he left the forum but JollyGood is still active and according to my study few months ago I found most of the negative feedback left by him are out of harsh judgement or retaliation. He even leveraged his DT power not to pay a user for the work that user has done for him instead he left a negative feedback to that user to stop his mouth. Eventually the user left the forum.

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Trust list for: starmyc (Trust: +1 / =0 / -1) (130 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2022-10-22_Sat_05.08h)
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starmyc Trusts these users' judgement:
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starmyc Distrusts these users' judgement:
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starmyc's judgement is Trusted by:
1. BitcoinGirl.Club (Trust: +1 / =3 / -0) (DT1! (3) 1196 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

~starmyc's judgement is Distrusted by:
1. nutildah (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (19) 4637 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. JollyGood (Trust: +16 / =2 / -1) (DT1! (15) 1121 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)


Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

This is interesting. starmyc was the user who left the forum after harassing by JollyGood. If I remember correctly then after LoyceV's suggestion and after long thinking I included starmyc  in my trust list so that the feedback starmyc left can be seen in DT and others can be aware about JollyGood's feedback leaving criteria to hostage users. But seems like distrust from nutildah and of course JollyGood himself actually took  down starmyc from trust network so the feedback is not visible anymore under default trust.

If adding removing a user from trust list truly based on their feedback leaving accuracy then I don't understand which feedback from starmyc was wrong that he was distrusted by two DT members?

Loycev, the trust list on your loyce.club used to show weekly or I guess monthly history of a users trust activity. But it turns out the feature is not there anymore. I am guessing you removed it. This was helpful to check when a user added or removed another user in their trust list.

[examplens]

Aren't all of us making money from our signature, avatar, personal text, website address space and possibly renting out whatever we can?

earning money by wearing a signature, avatar, or whatever is only an additional possibility, it should not be the only reason why someone writes on this forum. It doesn't seem to me that the OP really cares about the forum.

one of his previous feedbacks speaks in favor of this.

r1s2g3

2018-10-06

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Spamming for signature campaign. Statement in his own words "EDIT: Today i see my name is deleted on spreadsheet. Last week i didnt see it, by the way i make 30 posts! I’m so unhappy to i can’t get my payment for my labor."

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

earning money by wearing a signature, avatar, or whatever is only an additional possibility, it should not be the only reason why someone writes on this forum.

I am totally with you but just look everywhere and tell me do you really believe people are making posts because they care about the forum? Most of the users are making posts to fill up their weekly requirement. Very few maybe even under a 1% (a blind number random number only, please don't assume I have done extensive research 🤣) will be the users who are contributing because they love bitcoin.

It doesn't seem to me that the OP really cares about the forum.

He does not have to. We can not ask for it from him and put him to a corner with a negative feedback.

one of his previous feedbacks speaks in favor of this.

That feedback is justified. Do you think the red feedback left by JollyGood, Lauda are actually justified?

a member of the Kalemdar trust and merit abuse cycle. Spamming in signature campaigns.

BitcoinTurk has been promoting/recommending scammer Vispilio to users even though he is a self-admitted signature campaign scam promoter

Where is the money both user lost or where is the money that BitcoinTurk scammed. Did he even scammed anyone? I would like to see proof of him scamming users.

[decodx]

Please review these red trusts and give me one more change to become more active and effective member.

As others have already mentioned, your trust feedback should not prevent you from becoming a more active or participating member of this community. The fact that your trust rating is low with some members does not mean you aren't trustworthy; it just means that there have been some concerns raised about your behavior or conduct, and it can be changed if you work hard to improve it.

You haven't contributed much to the forum in recent months - more than a year has passed since your last post - and although there are many good reasons why you might not have posted in so long, this is a clear indicator that you are not being an active member of the community and this is one of the main reasons why you cannot participate in signature campaigns or other forms of advertising on bitcointalk. Every campaign manager will have a different set of rules for their campaigns, but the majority will require that you post regularly on bitcointalk and will be looking for the same thing: a high-quality posts with good content. Your trust rating has very little to do with this.

[LoyceV]

Loycev, the trust list on your loyce.club used to show weekly or I guess monthly history of a users trust activity. But it turns out the feature is not there anymore. I am guessing you removed it. This was helpful to check when a user added or removed another user in their trust list.

It's there again: check it. It takes a couple of hours each week to update the top navigation bar on the latest update.

[dkbit98]

JollyGood leave me red trust

Oh good luck trying to get feedback removed that is made from member mentioned above but I am not saying it's impossible to happen.
Lauda account is already ''dead'' in bitcointalk so it doesn't really matter, but other member is sadly still a DT member.
Your post history is not that great, and you came back after longer period of inactivity, so I suggest you just continue using this account now and prove you improved your posting.
You should also listen to LoyceV suggestion on using your trust feedback.

[KingsDen]

This section won't gonna help you to remove negative trust if you want to remove the negative trust then contact those people who left the negative trust in your profile because no one here could remove it.

Since they put you to ignore list I suggest make a new forum account to reach them. Make sure you can give a valid reason why do you want to remove red tag.

I am confused, is this your recommendation actually necessary?
JollyGood left him a negative tag and also ignored him which means the user cannot send him a personal message.
The best the user can do is what they have done by bringing the matter to the reputation board for the whole community to see. JG is also following this very thread and reading the suggestions and opinions of several users. If there are convincing reasons for JG to untag Op, he will. If he also needs to say something about the tag, he can also say.

You made it look as if, JG cannot see this post or it must only be via pm that requests of tag removal would be granted.I really think it is absolutely unnecessary to create a new account in order to reach JG.

[shasan]

Please review these red trusts and give me one more change to become more active and effective member. Please consider my old activity in local forum and general forum in past. Now, I can speak better English than before, so please remove my red trusts.

Hi BitcoinTurk, Have you tried to contact the person who has left the negative trust in you eg: Lauda as well as JollyGood who has given you negative trust? If yes, then if they do not want to remove then nothing to do. But if you have not yet contacted them then try to convince them about the reality.