Class action lawsuit against Telegram

[S-IT]

Hello, I'm organizing a billion-dollar class action lawsuit against Telegram and the Founder and CEO Pavel Durov for not deleting "Pump and Dump"-Groups despite repeated requests. This is aid to market manipulation. I'm looking for people who have suffered damage as a result.

[S-IT]

"All social media has this kind of group" is a strange justification. You think because everyone is doing it, is it legal? If no one does anything and everyone thinks like you, nothing will change. And "Just do your part to report all the groups to moderators"? Did you read my text? "... despite repeated requests.". And yes, I'm going to fund the attorneys fee personally. Since Pavel Durov is often in Berlin, I can also file the lawsuit here in Germany. In this case, the costs are small. And I've already found a lawyer to take the case.

[Maidak]

"All social media has this kind of group" is a strange justification. You think because everyone is doing it, is it legal? If no one does anything and everyone thinks like you, nothing will change. And "Just do your part to report all the groups to moderators"? Did you read my text? "... despite repeated requests.". And yes, I'm going to fund the attorneys fee personally. Since Pavel Durov is often in Berlin, I can also file the lawsuit here in Germany. In this case, the costs are small. And I've already found a lawyer to take the case.

You have asked yourself this, why do we, who have never lost money from such signal groups? while you are being the victim of such cheap scams. Is it because you are too greedy? don't want to work but still want money, or do you want to get rich quickly?... you should read all the rules when using any app or social network. Don't try to blame others when it's your own fault.
I think you should sue apple, google and microsoft for licensing telegram to work on their platform. Without the permission of these tech companies, the telegram would not appear anywhere. LOL

[S-IT]

You should not only read the text, but also understand it before you answer. I was never part of this group. But after a pump, prices fall below pre-pump levels, and you, the obvious layman, should understand that. Furthermore, it doesn't say that I've made a personal loss (I haven't either.), but that I'm organizing the lawsuit. I also wonder how you know how much I work. But to reassure you, I don't have to work anymore thanks to cryptocurrencies.

[Beparanf]

You should not only read the text, but also understand it before you answer. I was never part of this group. But after a pump, prices fall below pre-pump levels, and you, the obvious layman, should understand that. Furthermore, it doesn't say that I've made a personal loss (I haven't either.), but that I'm organizing the lawsuit. I also wonder how you know how much I work. But to reassure you, I don't have to work anymore thanks to cryptocurrencies.

The problem was guy like you believe on this pump and dump group that’s why they are still existing keeps multiplying. Telegram is a free to use social and it doesn’t promote scam. They will obviously delete or mark them as scam if the group is reported and proven. Blaming them for the loss that people themselves did was a lame excuse to justify poor judgement and wrong decisions on participating to groups like this.

[IIrik11]

bunch of internet trolls yelling what shitcoin to buy and sell is against the law now?

u can try if u have a lot of free time and money but it won't make a difference.

[NotATether]

Hello, I'm organizing a billion-dollar class action lawsuit against Telegram and the Founder and CEO Pavel Durov for not deleting "Pump and Dump"-Groups despite repeated requests. This is aid to market manipulation. I'm looking for people who have suffered damage as a result.

I think it would be more useful to start a class-action lawsuit for Telegram not deleting the accounts of known scammers.

No, I haven't suffered any damage from pump & dumps, because I was never a victim of one. I was fortunate enough to stay out of that stuff in the first place.

[bittraffic]

You should not only read the text, but also understand it before you answer. I was never part of this group. But after a pump, prices fall below pre-pump levels, and you, the obvious layman, should understand that. Furthermore, it doesn't say that I've made a personal loss (I haven't either.), but that I'm organizing the lawsuit. I also wonder how you know how much I work. But to reassure you, I don't have to work anymore thanks to cryptocurrencies.

For not deleting the pump and dump groups?

Not saying that it's legal. There may have many victims but if they joined the group, they are classified as willing victims. They know the risk but they are willing to bet to make money if there are few who are just right there to invest for long term, they are really lost somewhere in the desert.

If you can provide pieces of evidence where you can link the accounts, it may just be sensible. Many would have done this long before you, especially the victims who lost entire savings or those who actually borrowed money in order to invest.

[S-IT]

The problem was guy like you believe on this pump and dump group

Which of my words did you fail at? I said I DIDN'T TAKE PART, I just have something against these groups and that's why I want to get rid of them.

You should not only read the text, but also understand it before you answer. I was never part of this group. But after a pump, prices fall below pre-pump levels, and you, the obvious layman, should understand that. Furthermore, it doesn't say that I've made a personal loss (I haven't either.), but that I'm organizing the lawsuit. I also wonder how you know how much I work. But to reassure you, I don't have to work anymore thanks to cryptocurrencies.

For not deleting the pump and dump groups?

Not saying that it's legal. There may have many victims but if they joined the group, they are classified as willing victims. They know the risk but they are willing to bet to make money if there are few who are just right there to invest for long term, they are really lost somewhere in the desert.

If you can provide pieces of evidence where you can link the accounts, it may just be sensible. Many would have done this long before you, especially the victims who lost entire savings or those who actually borrowed money in order to invest.

It's not about the people in the groups, it's their own fault. It's about the damage a currency takes after the pump. And that affects the people who previously bought these currencies without prior consultation in groups.

[gantez]

You can have a good course or reason that telegram is allowing pump and dump accounts exist but your reason can only find some base or support only on morality but not in legal way because those account are only advising "greedy" people come for the kill but the revise happen as they are killed financially by losing where they are hoping to gain. I don't think investors get forced to put in money into a coin. When you are asked to buy, you can choose to or not.

Why belonging to such group in the first question? Someone that is looking to get rich quick is greedy and a greedy person can take what is not their own. Realise that while trying to get what is not rightfully your own then you can be hooked.

Telegram not the only social media that having call group or followers, tweeter, Facebook, YouTube, Reddit have some account that are followed for investment. Your legal chase can be stopped on the road for no justification, losers are not force to but they decide to belong to such group and not want to leave.

Which of my words did you fail at? I said I DIDN'T TAKE PART, I just have something against these groups and that's why I want to get rid of them.

A shit is a shit. If you have something against the groups what about developers of shit coins that give open opportunity for the pump and dump of the project. If they have good coin pumping is difficult. How much do you need to pump bitcoin and how much do you need to pump a low value shit coin, so you can see the difference.

[Lucius]

I'm looking for people who have suffered damage as a result.

I don't doubt that there are tens of thousands of such people all over the world, but even if some of them read your message, few would decide to go public and admit that someone deceived them in such a naive way. In addition, it would be good to read all those fine letters written by the army of lawyers paid by this Russian billionaire before starting any kind of battle with him.

I know that Telegram is a paradise for scammers, but all those gullible users are also to blame for what happens to them - and if Telegram manages to delete all such groups and block their owners, they would find another platform.

[abel1337]

So I think you should also file a lawsuit against Messenger, What's app, Viber and other messaging apps that those pump and dump groups are using. Those messaging apps also don't make a single move against these scam groups, at least telegram is giving warning to people about groups. Messaging apps isn't promoting scams it's just that they are one of the tools that the scammers use and conveniently, Telegram is one of the most favorable for scammers which I think telegram is not the one to blame on.

[palle11]

Op should be ready to file more law case because this fight should be for all social media. Apart from pump and dump, social media is the means that people are getting scammed from scam email that when you click it takes you to the scammer site. People drop link everywhere that you get into trouble after you click. I think he should put effort to orientate people that nothing is free and being careful not to involve in things you don't labour for. Falling for those pump and dump is not the fault of the group but people falling for it.

[Myleschetty]

Every social media have this type of group or channel and I never study the Tos of Telegram nor did I think they have one that's against the pump and dump.
Although Telegram was said to register as a company under the British Virgin Islands and as LLC in Dubai but is hard to sue a company owned by the person that was said to moving from country to country. Besides, I believe the company never had an office or any form of legal entity.

You can report those channel/groups on  abuse@telegram.org or dmca@telegram.org instead of the lawsuit.

[virasisog]

Many social media platforms have that kinds of groups, channels, and pages. People have the freedom and privilege to create their own groups as long as they are not violating the TOS of each platforms. We can't question Telegram which actually has lots of pumps and dump groups because users can easily create their own channels without any hassle. It's more convenient and easier for scammers to pursue scamming in Telegram but we should be aware of that. It is our personal responsibility to get rid of scammers and filing a lawsuit against Telegram alone wouldn't be enough and will be unfair since other top social media platforms have that kind of feature as well. We only have to be fully equipped with the knowledge to get rid of scam pages and avoid suspicious groups.

[Ultegra134]

Telegram, Facebook, Discord, and probably other platforms are filled with such signal groups. Why would anyone, in their right mind, follow them? Anyone joining these kinds of groups is accepting the risk of getting scammed, tricked and ending in a loss of funds. In my opinion, becoming greedy and thinking that easy money exists is the reason why these groups exist, and OP, you sound like one of these people who go by this moto.

Good luck to you, but you won't manage something even if you actually sue Telegram, which is highly unlikely that you will.

[Mr.right85]

I dont know if there is a policy that shields telegram from this sort of law suits but, if this could bring any good result, I suppose they could give it a try. There are pockets of these groups everywhere on social media and having them effectively deleted could minimise the damage.
Wth OP to have state that, he or she had effectively reported reported few to be investigated and deleted with no response (I suppose OP followed steps to prove the fraud been done though), it doesn't harm no one to put the word out and raise concerns for the Telegram team to be more involved on the activities done on its network.

It would be interesting to have victims come out and not shy away from the wrongs that have been done against them with a motion to halt it, even slightly at play. Though others would come up to replace the formal, let it be that something is been done when discovered and not allowed to linger.

[Potato Chips]

You can’t get rid all of these groups but telegram can definitely do better when it comes to handling scams. I've personally never dabbled with such groups but I've noticed when it comes to battling scams in general, they are falling behind (but this could just be an isolated case). I wouldn't be surprised if scams are put on low priority.

Telegram needs to step up their game. Discord seems to be doing a better job at handling scam DMs (at least from my experience). My most recent encounter were all automatically marked as 'likely spam' and had their content hidden.

I am also able to join crypto groups without worrying about scam DMs as there's an option to block all messages coming from non-friends (whitelisting some servers is also possible). Telegram has a similar feature called "archive and mute" that automatically sends PMs from strangers to a chat folder but apparently, it will only show up if a user has received too many messages from unknown contacts....

I can't see what you're trying to do as anything but extremely tough battle so good luck.

[panganib999]

I am with you in the sentiment that Telegram should at least take action against not only market manipulators teeming within their application but against scammers and spoofers as well who make Telegram a hostile place for people who are new to the platform. But then again it will take a humungous effort not only from telegram but from the people within its servers to implement such parameters which I guess is what contributes to the reason why no action until now is made.

[Mpamaegbu]

Hello, I'm organizing a billion-dollar class action lawsuit against Telegram and the Founder and CEO Pavel Durov for not deleting "Pump and Dump"-Groups despite repeated requests. This is aid to market manipulation. I'm looking for people who have suffered damage as a result.

You see socialization whenever you're using telegram but the owner sees business opportunities and ways to generate revenue whenever they look at it. Those are too different intentions. The pump and dump groups you want expunged (I also don't like them), could be the cash cow for the telegram owner, Pavel Durov. You never can tell.