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This is not happening only in Germany but also other countries of the world. Things are getting bad everyday and the government will not out heads together to settle this that had been hitting each and every countries. Food stuffs are getting hike everyday so we need to be prepared because this is not happening only in Germany but almost every part of the world. This will not stop soon so we just have to get something doing so that we will be able afford our daily need and bills.
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The prices didn't seem high to me at all. Germany's inflation is very limited. Despite this, Germans move to Türkiye to spend the winter season. Because this is much cheaper than them. Those who earn Euros because of the exchange rate can live very comfortably here. Whoever earns Turkish lira is crushed by the highest inflation in the world. If this is the rise of gas prices in Germany, you don't need to complain. You're already using everything so cheap.
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The prices didn't seem high to me at all. Germany's inflation is very limited. Despite this, Germans move to Türkiye to spend the winter season. Because this is much cheaper than them. Those who earn Euros because of the exchange rate can live very comfortably here. Whoever earns Turkish lira is crushed by the highest inflation in the world. If this is the rise of gas prices in Germany, you don't need to complain. You're already using everything so cheap.
There is no guarantee that Turkey will be having enough gas for their own usage. There are two gas pipelines running from Russia (Blue Stream and Turkstream), and there is another pipeline from Azerbaijan. I am not sure, but there seems to be a gas pipeline from Iran as well. But the supplies does not cover the total demand, and therefore apart from the pipeline gas, Turkey usually imports LNG as well. Total consumption is around 60 billion cubic meters of natural gas per year, and around 40% of that is made up of LNG (mostly from the US).
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I think it's not just talking about Germany or some other countries in Europe because of the inflation rate and the food crisis all over the world many countries are facing problems with food prices and the increasing the food price all over the world is clear these days, in many undeveloped countries they even have deeper and worst problems with food prices but even a county like Germany is not really far from this crisis and there you see how the prices are increasing because of this crisis in all over the world.
Germany could be seen one of the strongest economies of the world, but that doesn't mean that they have to be doing better than everyone else, or even do good. While everyone else doing worse, they are doing worse too but a bit better worse so to speak. Think about it this way, if USA has 10% inflation and Germany has 8% inflation that’s "better", but it's still bad for Germans. That’s the situation we have right now, but to be fair they are still doing amazingly. The problem is they have been so awesome for decades that even slight bit of discomfort sounds like agony to them, while people who had worse inflation even on their best year, are facing something that is acceptable to them because they grew accustomed to it.
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November 06, 2022, 07:04:29 AM Last edit: November 06, 2022, 08:11:15 AM by stompix |
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The problem is they have been so awesome for decades that even slight bit of discomfort sounds like agony to them, while people who had worse inflation even on their best year, are facing something that is acceptable to them because they grew accustomed to it.
Bruh, nobody screams in agony here! The only ones that claim destruction, death, recession, and that the whole country is doomed are the ones that never set foot in Germany in their lifetime. Just look at the profiles of those that scream the economy is dead, most of them are from Russia, Asia, and Africa, people in Europe are not hiding in their bunkers and are not preparing for an iceage. Read the topic and see how everyone is surprised that the prices are nearly the same as in their countries while the wages are 10 times higher, that the stores are full, all those things are of no surprise to us, people that actually live in Europe. But brainwashed propaganda zealots are having heat attacks seeing how everything still works here. In Russia, the living wage for a pensioner is more than 200 euros, and for an able-bodied person about 300 euros. In Russia, food is cheaper, and it is very hard to live on this money.
So you're telling me that in the richest country in the world or whatever you called Russia, the average monthly pension will be not enough to buy one Milka Chocolate a day? And you guys still consider yourself a global superpower and a model of how a country should work?
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The problem is they have been so awesome for decades that even slight bit of discomfort sounds like agony to them, while people who had worse inflation even on their best year, are facing something that is acceptable to them because they grew accustomed to it.
I am not a German (not living there either) but since I have close family members there and visiting them few times per year, I met my share of Germans and I have to say that they are mostly financially responsible and hardworking people. So when you are living in one of the most developed countries in the world, having a well paid job and tend to save the money (and Germans do like to save) when/if shit hits the fan you will adjust much easier than someone already barely surviving on his salary and without safety cushion. But you are right about something though, people in countries like Russia are used to shitty standard of living and its beyond me how country with such natural resources can have lower standard of living than some of the poorest EU countries (for example Croatia where I am from), and people there being ok with it.
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There is no guarantee that Turkey will be having enough gas for their own usage. There are two gas pipelines running from Russia (Blue Stream and Turkstream), and there is another pipeline from Azerbaijan. I am not sure, but there seems to be a gas pipeline from Iran as well. But the supplies does not cover the total demand, and therefore apart from the pipeline gas, Turkey usually imports LNG as well. Total consumption is around 60 billion cubic meters of natural gas per year, and around 40% of that is made up of LNG (mostly from the US). Türkiye has no problem in finding resources. Their commercial relations with both Eastern and Western countries are very good. But the real problem is the prices. It's difficult to access everything while the purchasing power of the people decreases. There are goods in the market, but there is no money to buy that goods. Everyone is borrowing, the amount of credit is increasing day by day. The future is mortgaged to save the present. That's why I said Germany's situation is good. People can still live humanely. Accessing basic consumer goods is not difficult. They will survive this winter by saving a little, but they won't face such a problem in the following years. Because they don't have structural problems like we do.
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Photo was taken some days ago but prices are still nearly the same. So, who was saying that Germans wouldn't be able to buy a fuel for cars? P.S. Season - winter, Month - December.
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Photo was taken some days ago but prices are still nearly the same. So, who was saying that Germans wouldn't be able to buy a fuel for cars? P.S. Season - winter, Month - December. everywhere in the world - the petrol price has increased the food and daily useful item prices are unaffordable now - the business are collapsing and there is so much noise from the people about the inflation and gov not being able to provide them basic necessity
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everywhere in the world - the petrol price has increased
I will focus only on the EU, since this topic is actually about Germany, so I want to show that fuel prices are actually falling, and here is this graph showing fuel prices in Germany and France in the current year. SourceIn fact, looking at the statistics in the last three months, fuel prices are lower by almost 14% on average, and food prices have also started to fall slightly. Some will say that this is because consumption has decreased, and there is some truth in that, but that is certainly not the only reason. For those who want to see the data, and not to guess that fuel is going up, at least as far as the EU is concerned -> https://www.fuel-prices.eu/
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Photo was taken some days ago but prices are still nearly the same. So, who was saying that Germans wouldn't be able to buy a fuel for cars? Impossible! We were assured by the greatest specialist in geopolitics, economics, oil trading, life after death, and cosmic quantic dimensional inversions that the oil barrel will hit $300 and that all Europeans will be driving donkey carts cause we won't be affording gas. And the most ironic part is that damn, I wish some would not afford them because traffic has become impossible around here, for the first time I actually had to wait in the queue at the first highway entrance and stand in line for 10 mins at the barrier cause the shopping mall was full and there was no parking space available. So, some should really switch to donkeys because this keeps getting worse and worse and during the Christmas madness the whole city will be one huge parking lot. In fact, looking at the statistics in the last three months, fuel prices are lower by almost 14% on average, and food prices have also started to fall slightly. Some will say that this is because consumption has decreased, and there is some truth in that, but that is certainly not the only reason.
There are two other reasons - oil price is crashing, WTI is down to $72 and Brent to $78 - the euro has recovered against the USD, so if oil was 94 euros a month ago, it's just 74 euros per barrel, -20% And there is also less demand of course, the agricultural work is done, people are not traveling long distances anymore and just roaming around the cities so it was expected.
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Photo was taken some days ago but prices are still nearly the same. So, who was saying that Germans wouldn't be able to buy a fuel for cars? P.S. Season - winter, Month - December. everywhere in the world - the petrol price has increased the food and daily useful item prices are unaffordable now - the business are collapsing and there is so much noise from the people about the inflation and gov not being able to provide them basic necessities Most of us are experiencing the same thing and it's affecting everyone regardless of our financial and social status. I think people are now used to it since we all know that we have no choice but to grind just to survive. Relying on the government will only make us suffer more because, to be honest, they are even taking advantage of what is happening in our economy. We can't change the situation so we have just to deal with it. It's just so heartbreaking that our necessities are continuously striking so high so we're just spending most of our days trying to double our earnings just to afford them.
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for last couple years energy price sites viewed: germany, hawaii and japan as the 3 highest electric prices per KWH
what was your actual electric KWH rating(cost) in germany last year and also now (to compare)
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The is they have been so awesome for decades that even slight bit of problem sounds like agony to them, while people who had worse inflation even on their best year, are facing something that is acceptable to them because they grew accustomed to it.
I am not a German (not living there either) but since I have close family members there and visiting them few times per year, I met my share of Germans and I have to say that they are mostly financially responsible and hardworking people. So when you are living in one of the most developed countries in the world, having a well paid job and tend to save the money (and Germans do like to save) when/if shit hits the fan you will adjust much easier than someone already barely surviving on his salary and without safety cushion. But you are right about something though, people in countries like Russia are used to shitty standard of living and its beyond me how country with such natural resources can have a lower standard of living than some of the poorest EU countries (for example Croatia where I am from), and people there being ok with it. The fact is that since childhood, they, and their parents and grandfathers (back in the USSR), were instilled, or rather, they were driven into the head with postulates, such as: "To live well and richly is bad", "you must live as the state says", " The state will decide everything for you, you just follow their orders." And over the decades of such reverse selection, they have created a unique society - where it is bad to strive for a good life. A good life is achievable only through corruption and corruption. It is not worth doing well and comfortably in your own country - it is more important not to let your neighbors do it in their countries. Believe me - "1984" dystopia by George Orwell, published in 1949, is a pale shadow of what is happening in Russia!
I am not a German (not living there either) but since I have close family members there and visiting them few times per year, I met my share of Germans and I have to say that they are mostly financially responsible and hardworking people. So when you are living in one of the most developed countries in the world, having a well paid job and tend to save the money (and Germans do like to save) when/if shit hits the fan you will adjust much easier than someone already barely surviving on his salary and without safety cushion.
But you are right about something though, people in countries like Russia are used to shitty standard of living and its beyond me how country with such natural resources can have a lower standard of living than some of the poorest EU countries (for example Croatia where I am from), and people there being ok with it.
Believe me - the mentality of the inhabitants of Russia, this will be a new chapter in psychiatry If you didn’t watch anything except news from Russia for a couple of days, quit for 2-3 days, urgently requested a psychologist, vacation and powerful antidepressants .... And if you watch state (and there are no other media in Russia) propaganda channels / programs for a day ... You turn off the TV .. You sit on the sofa ... You will sit silently for a long time, and then you will say something like "what the hell did I just watch ?!" )) You know, but 99% of the Russian legacy is now SURE that Russia is in Ukraine: 1. He is fighting not with Ukraine, but with NATO. 2. Ukrainians are their brothers, they love them 3. Ukrainians must be destroyed because they do not like Russians (and there is no contradiction with paragraph 2 here) 4. All Ukrainians are fascists, Bandera, and sold out to the USA 5. Russians actually protect Russian-speaking residents of Ukraine 6. Destroying the regions and cities with the largest concentration of Russian-speaking population, as well as ethnic Russian citizens of Ukraine (No dissonance here either) 7. But in fact, Russia is fighting so that NATO and the West do not force them all to become gays and lesbians or zoophiles! 8. Although... And against the bio-laboratories that the United States built in Ukraine, which grow fighting mosquitoes that will only bite the inhabitants of Russia (!!!!) so that they either become gay or cannot reproduce !!! Did you laugh? Do you think I'm kidding?! NO ! This is the reality in which Russians live and enjoy it. [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]
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Synchronice (OP)
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December 24, 2022, 07:58:10 PM |
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Right now I'm not in Germany but took this photo some days ago. What's happening in Russia? Do they say that Germany is in a huge trouble? Or that Germans are freezing? Or that Germans aren't able to buy a fuel? Or do they say that there are blackouts in Germany? what was your actual electric KWH rating(cost) in germany last year and also now (to compare)
Well, prices hugely depend on your state, contractor, etc. It's really complicated, I was paying 0.28 and now I'm paying 0.39.
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December 25, 2022, 06:57:52 PM |
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I have no clue about Germany's food prices, but I'd like to leave my two cents. Judging by the photos, at least the first couple ones look like they are from Lidl, am I right? If you compare your Lidl prices with Greece's for similar items, you'll notice tremendous differences, with Germany being cheaper. On top of that, if you're comparing the average salaries between the two countries, it's absolutely unacceptable for Greece to have such outrageous prices for everyday goods. I don't know what policies Germany might have taken to tackle the inflation, but nothing effective has been done here so far. They're now preparing to issue a food "coupon" in the form of a prepaid card, which is a complete joke.
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December 26, 2022, 04:39:37 AM |
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We have the same issue here in Canada. You can say that compared to 2019 prices your grocery bill has doubled. Or very close. Those inflation numbers aren’t accurate because it works like this.
Say for example
Break went up 10% Coffee went down 10%
According to that calculation it would mean inflation is 0%. And there are some items that haven’t changed in price like Bananas and that is also keeping inflation figures down. But in reality you are paying double for your food these days.
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Cryptock
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December 26, 2022, 09:39:40 AM |
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We have the same issue here in Canada. You can say that compared to 2019 prices your grocery bill has doubled. Or very close. Those inflation numbers aren’t accurate because it works like this.
Say for example
Break went up 10% Coffee went down 10%
According to that calculation it would mean inflation is 0%. And there are some items that haven’t changed in price like Bananas and that is also keeping inflation figures down. But in reality you are paying double for your food these days.
That is the same in Subcontinent and in South Asian countries. In Fact this is the same everywhere. I was listening in new when Argentina won the world cup the journalist said - people are so upset because of inflation but for a fews they will be very happy and celebrating despite of the face they have so much troubles going on.
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RockBell
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December 26, 2022, 11:36:28 AM Merited by fillippone (2) |
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Speaking of food price increases, everyone is impacted around the world, including high standards of living and higher levels of poverty. As a result of these factors, as well as rising crime rates, people will resort to illegal means to feed their families. Cooking oil scarcity is a serious issue that I have not actually experienced before. However, not only Germany was impacted but also the UK, Indonesia, the Netherlands, and many other nations, most notably sunflower oil. and this was a result of the war between Ukraine and Russia and prices are still going high every day.
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Synchronice (OP)
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December 26, 2022, 12:14:03 PM |
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If you compare your Lidl prices with Greece's for similar items, you'll notice tremendous differences, with Germany being cheaper. On top of that, if you're comparing the average salaries between the two countries, it's absolutely unacceptable for Greece to have such outrageous prices for everyday goods.
That's probably why the whole EU comes here to work A lot of people from Hungary, Romania, Italy, Czech, Spain, Albania and other countries come here to work. We have the same issue here in Canada. You can say that compared to 2019 prices your grocery bill has doubled. Or very close. Those inflation numbers aren’t accurate because it works like this.
Say for example
Break went up 10% Coffee went down 10%
According to that calculation it would mean inflation is 0%. And there are some items that haven’t changed in price like Bananas and that is also keeping inflation figures down. But in reality you are paying double for your food these days.
What's the price of 1kg banana in Canada? 1kg Chicken Breast? Can you share some prices in Canadian dollar please? Here in Germany, 1kg banana costs 1.09 Euro, 1kg Chicken - 10 Euro. There are 2x more prices on these products too but to be honest, unless you are addicted to bio products, you can't find a big difference between the quality and taste
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