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October 26, 2022, 06:39:28 AM
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Hi, is anybody near to the office of the fraud company localbitcoins.com?

The fraud company Localbitcoins locked my account due inactivity and  and don not let me verify again. If I ask whats going on they say its confidential and can not give any information.

I would like to see some pictures of their office and contact to the person in Charge.

On the website its written that the CEO is the scammer Sara Leppänen, but sending them an email lead to no results.

Be warend and dont get scammed.


Yours,
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October 26, 2022, 07:03:42 AM
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LocalBitcoins is a p2p exchange, not even needed for day trading or short time trading that required traders to leave some coins on an exchange. It is not good to leave coins on exchanges when you know it is not your private key. Use a noncustodial wallet instead and have full control on your coins.

To know more about localBitcoins, you can just go through Wikipedia about the exchange. It is located in Helsinki, Finland.

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October 26, 2022, 07:14:19 AM
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I cant find the exact address of the fraud company localbitcoins.com, I would like to know the exact street, building, floor, office number and some pictures.
After that I might try to find some people to visit that place and talk to them.
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October 26, 2022, 07:46:10 AM
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I cant find the exact address of the fraud company localbitcoins.com, I would like to know the exact street, building, floor, office number and some pictures.
After that I might try to find some people to visit that place and talk to them.
The exchange mailing address. According to LocalBitcoins:

https://localbitcoins.com/about

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The data controller responsible for your personal data is LocalBitcoins Oy, a Finnish limited liability company with the postal address of Porkkalankatu 24, 00180 Helsinki, Finland.

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October 26, 2022, 07:56:54 AM
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I cant find the exact address of the fraud company localbitcoins.com, I would like to know the exact street, building, floor, office number and some pictures.
After that I might try to find some people to visit that place and talk to them.
The information that you will get from the support team is the same as the information that you will get if you visit their office and therefore it will not make a difference.

What will make a difference is if you file a criminal case and then it can make a difference.
As far as I know, the platform is subject to the laws of the European Union, so are you a European citizen? Or which country can influence decisions in the European Union? Is there clear cryptocurrency legislation in your country? Do you know a professional lawyer? These are the things you should look for.

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October 26, 2022, 09:39:06 AM
Last edit: October 26, 2022, 09:49:58 AM by VaxDa
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I cant find the exact address of the fraud company localbitcoins.com, I would like to know the exact street, building, floor, office number and some pictures.
After that I might try to find some people to visit that place and talk to them.
The information that you will get from the support team is the same as the information that you will get if you visit their office and therefore it will not make a difference.

What will make a difference is if you file a criminal case and then it can make a difference.
As far as I know, the platform is subject to the laws of the European Union, so are you a European citizen? Or which country can influence decisions in the European Union? Is there clear cryptocurrency legislation in your country? Do you know a professional lawyer? These are the things you should look for.

I am not European.
How to do it Europe? Probably through a good lawyer, any specific advice, do I need appear at court? I hope I can find a remote solution. Because I can not travel.
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Is there clear cryptocurrency legislation in your country?

No, thats why I used a foreign exchange.
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October 26, 2022, 05:08:52 PM
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Hi, is anybody near to the office of the fraud company localbitcoins.com?

The fraud company Localbitcoins locked my account due inactivity and  and don not let me verify again. If I ask whats going on they say its confidential and can not give any information.

I would like to see some pictures of their office and contact to the person in Charge.

On the website its written that the CEO is the scammer Sara Leppänen, but sending them an email lead to no results.

Be warend and dont get scammed.


Yours,
Vaxda


Sorry for your loss. How much you had on the local bitcoin account? I think they are not scammers but many users are on that site who can scam. For example, you took 100$ from Paypal from anyone that can be reversed and local bitcoin can't do anything if the scammer's account doesn't have bitcoin.

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October 26, 2022, 05:38:55 PM
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I am not European.
How to do it Europe? Probably through a good lawyer, any specific advice, do I need appear at court? I hope I can find a remote solution. Because I can not travel.

Have you read the ToS when you signed up?
https://localbitcoins.com/terms_of_service/

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You agree that this Agreement and any dispute between you and us arising out of or in connection with this Agreement shall be governed in all respects by the laws of Finland, without regard to their choice-of-law provisions. Without limitation to any statutory rights for consumers under applicable consumer protection laws, you agree that all disputes, claims and proceedings shall be resolved in the first instance by the district court of Helsinki, Finland. Notwithstanding the foregoing, if you are a consumer, you may also file a complaint regarding the terms of this Agreement with the Consumer Complaints Board in Finland (https://www.kuluttajariita.fi). Before doing so, you must first contact the Consumer Advisory Services in Finland (https://www.kkv.fi/kuluttajaneuvonta).

Finland is part of the EU, meaning that every citizen outside the EU can file a claim with the finish Ombusdan bureau to mediate your case against them if the above fail, if the value is below 5k euros you can also file an online case under the small claims procedure .

After that I might try to find some people to visit that place and talk to them.

And you think the guys there will listen to a stranger saying he's your representative?
This is not about buying a washing machine or returning a laptop.


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October 27, 2022, 06:38:07 AM
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Hi, is anybody near to the office of the fraud company localbitcoins.com?

The fraud company Localbitcoins locked my account due inactivity and  and don not let me verify again. If I ask whats going on they say its confidential and can not give any information.

I would like to see some pictures of their office and contact to the person in Charge.

On the website its written that the CEO is the scammer Sara Leppänen, but sending them an email lead to no results.

Be warend and dont get scammed.


Yours,
Vaxda


Sorry for your loss. How much you had on the local bitcoin account? I think they are not scammers but many users are on that site who can scam. For example, you took 100$ from Paypal from anyone that can be reversed and local bitcoin can't do anything if the scammer's account doesn't have bitcoin.

Thanks for your words, I really appreciate it. I list a very huge amount more then a normal person earn in a a year. I will pay money to hunt these scammer down and even their children.
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Its registered in Finland simply go to the financial regulator of finland website you will find the address
Make sure to find the company name first a company name doesn't mean the domain name.
Go to the website below type in localbitcoins you will get all

https://www.finanssivalvonta.fi/en/registers/supervised-entities/
And here the info you looking for
https://ibb.co/sWhD4QD

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LocalBitcoins Oy

Virtual currency providers
Contact information
Porkkalankatu 24
00180 Helsinki
Finland
Persons in charge
Board member: Nikolaus Petteri Kangas
CEO: Sara Katariina Leppänen
Chairman of the Board: Jukka Jeremias Kangas
CEO: Sebastian Pasi Gabriel Sonntag
Board member: Seppo Juhani Heikura
Supervisor(s) in Financial Supervisory Authority
Tytti Tanninen, Telephone: +358 9 183 5510
Business Identity Code
2855415-2
Home state
Finland
Provided services
A virtual currency exchange service
A wallet provider
Date of registration
10/31/2019


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Its registered in Finland simply go to the financial regulator of finland website you will find the address
Make sure to find the company name first a company name doesn't mean the domain name.
Go to the website below type in localbitcoins you will get all

That's their mailing address (same as on the website), it's a virtual office as required by the Finish law if you don't want to disclose or you don't have the need for a real office, and judging by the number of topics here and the way people are reacting to their problems I can bet that they will never disclose the real workplace. So if you go there and ask for them you will just be pointed to a box where you can leave any letters or citations to them, no way you're going to see the CEO with a coffee walking down the lobby.

I list a very huge amount more then a normal person earn in a a year. I will pay money to hunt these scammer down and even their children.

Just a suggestion, if you use the same tone and the same threats in your discussions with them even the ombudsman will decline your case as they will deny involvement when there is no cooperation from the accusing side and you don't follow standard mediation procedure, especially if you're the one doing the death threats. For what it is you might actually get yourself in trouble if they file a complaint against you.

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Its registered in Finland simply go to the financial regulator of finland website you will find the address
Make sure to find the company name first a company name doesn't mean the domain name.
Go to the website below type in localbitcoins you will get all

That's their mailing address (same as on the website), it's a virtual office as required by the Finish law if you don't want to disclose or you don't have the need for a real office, and judging by the number of topics here and the way people are reacting to their problems I can bet that they will never disclose the real workplace. So if you go there and ask for them you will just be pointed to a box where you can leave any letters or citations to them, no way you're going to see the CEO with a coffee walking down the lobby.

I list a very huge amount more then a normal person earn in a a year. I will pay money to hunt these scammer down and even their children.

Just a suggestion, if you use the same tone and the same threats in your discussions with them even the ombudsman will decline your case as they will deny involvement when there is no cooperation from the accusing side and you don't follow standard mediation procedure, especially if you're the one doing the death threats. For what it is you might actually get yourself in trouble if they file a complaint against you.
I think you mistook Finland with Seychelles you cannot register a business and be regulated by financial service  FSA  with virtual info. 
Thats why since 2019 Localbitcoins started asking for verifications and limits and more strict . You should get  your facts right befor acting like some advisor.

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I think you mistook Finland with Seychelles you cannot register a business and be regulated by financial service  FSA  with virtual info.  
Thats why since 2019 Localbitcoins started asking for verifications and limits and more strict . You should get  your facts right befor acting like some advisor.

The one who is not knowing what he is talking about is you:
https://www.prh.fi/en/kaupparekisteri/rekisterointipalvelut/rekisterin_tietosisalto.html

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Postal address, street address, email, telephone number, website address

The business register address you've linked to accepts postal addresses as main addresses, there is no law in Finland in which any company must disclose all its working addresses, you are allowed to have as many as you want and just list one in the register.

Second, Localbitcoins is an Osakeyhtio, a limited company, as you can see in the registry form:
https://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/ajantasa/1979/19790129

There is no mandatory fixed address required, but a postal address or the municipality from which they operate.

And it's not just Finland it's the EU or even the UK, for example, Binance is operating in the Uk as Binance Markets Limited, their address is a virtual one, home to no less than 111,446 business or Bitstamp operates from a 200 shared offices in London or the same in Luxemburg and the myriad of examples can continue.

But you're free to go down there and wait for their CEO, post a selfie with him and prove me wrong.  Wink

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I think you mistook Finland with Seychelles you cannot register a business and be regulated by financial service  FSA  with virtual info.  
Thats why since 2019 Localbitcoins started asking for verifications and limits and more strict . You should get  your facts right befor acting like some advisor.

The one who is not knowing what he is talking about is you:
https://www.prh.fi/en/kaupparekisteri/rekisterointipalvelut/rekisterin_tietosisalto.html

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Postal address, street address, email, telephone number, website address

The business register address you've linked to accepts postal addresses as main addresses, there is no law in Finland in which any company must disclose all its working addresses, you are allowed to have as many as you want and just list one in the register.

Second, Localbitcoins is an Osakeyhtio, a limited company, as you can see in the registry form:
https://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/ajantasa/1979/19790129

There is no mandatory fixed address required, but a postal address or the municipality from which they operate.

And it's not just Finland it's the EU or even the UK, for example, Binance is operating in the Uk as Binance Markets Limited, their address is a virtual one, home to no less than 111,446 business or Bitstamp operates from a 200 shared offices in London or the same in Luxemburg and the myriad of examples can continue.

But you're free to go down there and wait for their CEO, post a selfie with him and prove me wrong.  Wink

I think you just want tobspread your chipmixer signature
As you still dont know the difference between registering a business and being regulated by a financial institution
Its not a business to sell chinese products on a shopify site .
Read here  https://www.finanssivalvonta.fi/en/
Not the site you talking about

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I think you mistook Finland with Seychelles you cannot register a business and be regulated by financial service  FSA  with virtual info.  
Thats why since 2019 Localbitcoins started asking for verifications and limits and more strict . You should get  your facts right befor acting like some advisor.

The one who is not knowing what he is talking about is you:
https://www.prh.fi/en/kaupparekisteri/rekisterointipalvelut/rekisterin_tietosisalto.html

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Information entered in the register   Description of entry
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Postal address, street address, email, telephone number, website address

The business register address you've linked to accepts postal addresses as main addresses, there is no law in Finland in which any company must disclose all its working addresses, you are allowed to have as many as you want and just list one in the register.

Second, Localbitcoins is an Osakeyhtio, a limited company, as you can see in the registry form:
https://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/ajantasa/1979/19790129

There is no mandatory fixed address required, but a postal address or the municipality from which they operate.

And it's not just Finland it's the EU or even the UK, for example, Binance is operating in the Uk as Binance Markets Limited, their address is a virtual one, home to no less than 111,446 business or Bitstamp operates from a 200 shared offices in London or the same in Luxemburg and the myriad of examples can continue.

But you're free to go down there and wait for their CEO, post a selfie with him and prove me wrong.  Wink

I think you just want tobspread your chipmixer signature
As you still dont know the difference between registering a business and being regulated by a financial institution
Its not a business to sell chinese products on a shopify site .
Read here  https://www.finanssivalvonta.fi/en/
Not the site you talking about

Mate, there's no regulation for VASP's (virtual assets service providers) yet by the Finnish financial inspection. In fact, in most EU countries (Czech Republic, Lithuania etc.) VASP registrations are being managed by the registry of commerce (Trade Registry, Registration Office).

That may also come as surprise to you, but even actually regulated financial institutions (like electronic money institutions, payment institutions, investment funds) do usually operate from completely different address than one stated on public file. From my experience, and believe me or not, I have worked as regulatory compliance consultant for some 5 years, it is completely acceptable by standards of, for, example Financial Conduct Authority in the UK when you show them 12-month agreement for a fixed coworking space or two plus pin-coded locker and only store some basic stuff related to company activities there.

Of course, if for example, inspection comes to your formal place of business you're supposed to be there, however in 99% cases notice is made well in advance to ensure you would be available, so in the meanwhile you would be good working from Starbucks/home/another office, you name it.

Now, to the OP. My advice to you would be: stop planning what you are thinking of doing to localbitcoins staff members now, refrain from stalking or incentivising someone to bully or incite harm on company that operates on legal basis. Even if you are angry/frustrated. Even if you think that you've been scammed. That would not help to return any of frozen funds and would only create many more problems for yourself and anyone you're going to drag into stalking LocalBitcoins employees. Finland is no kind of banana republic or drug dealer state where you are Judge Dredd and your rights enforcing instrument is loaded gun.

Research thoroughly Terms and Conditions again and learn what you may have done wrong. Even if you have done anything wrong, you still have rights to return back your property (bitcoins in this case). Consult with someone competent (paralegal, lawyer), draft a formal letter of complaint/demand, send it via registered mail by real post. Don't use any hateful language and threaten them with anything apart from legal proceedings.

I personally do rarely deal with such cases as you may have already have told the support something that raised all AML alarms (it is a well-known risk alarm when someone is trying to evade due legal process and starts making demands with threats/harassment), but still you may drop me a line on Telegram (t.me/fintechops) and we can discuss what could be done legally to unfreeze your btc's

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November 30, 2022, 05:44:12 AM
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Hi, is anybody near to the office of the fraud company localbitcoins.com?

The fraud company Localbitcoins locked my account due inactivity and  and don not let me verify again. If I ask whats going on they say its confidential and can not give any information.

I would like to see some pictures of their office and contact to the person in Charge.

On the website its written that the CEO is the scammer Sara Leppänen, but sending them an email lead to no results.

Be warend and dont get scammed.


Yours,
Vaxda



Does anybody knows the residential address of the scammer Sara Leppänen or her Facebook account?
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