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October 27, 2022, 05:16:16 AM
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Recession is simply the reduction in economic activities either goods or services. It can hardly be eradicated totally by a country, but its severity can be minimized. Part of its major effect are unemployment and reduced income, with both leading to citizens of the affected country left in abject poverty.
Some governments have continuously been looking into ways or passing laws to help reduce the recession or even avert it. Some of these policies have either made help reduce it or most at times worsen the situation. Some of these counter measures are:
1. The government instructs the central banks to either print more money or reduces the interest rates just to allow its citizens spend lots on goods and services. This particular measures had backfired in such a way that the countries local currency loses value against foreign currencies since it is in excess circulation.
2. Some government results into either reducing the rates of tax or ridiculously increasing its own spending.

3. Some government sends out bailout money to help institutions from closing down due to its effects.

These policies can have effects on citizens that have there savings in local currencies due to its devaluation. Some local banks even go to the extent of charging depositors of there long time savings rather than paying them for there interest growth.

BITCOIN AS A SAFE LANDING AMIDST RECESSION

Bitcoin which has viewed to contribute positively to the economy of a nation ranging from creating opportunities for countries with low Banking services, to low cost of transactions within and outside the country of trader, its relatively high transparency during transactions, its ability not to devalue against any foreign currency. With some of these advantages, here are some reasons why bitcoin should be priorities amidst recession.
1. Its Diversification: Bitcoin does not have any difference of value when compared to foreign currencies like Euro, pounds and dollars. Its value is same all around the world. These could help the investors/traders not to lose their funds when their respective countries encounter recession and there government implements measures that devalue their local currencies

2. Resistance to Inflation: with the continuous printing of money by government which has lead to the devaluation of the fiat currencies, bitcoins total circulation is fixed at 21 million BTC. Inflation hardly affects money at a fixed supply its valuation only increases proportionally to rise in demand.

3. Bitcoin's Value: although there are altcoins like Ethereum, bitcoin is best suited to perform better in terms of recession due to it's less volatility, scarcity, safety. In comparison to stock its effectiveness booms and busts the economy due to technical advantages, ability to grow, financial discipline, great community or decentralization.

With recession lurking around some countries, bitcoin could be lifeboat for people looking for safe landing without it been influenced by government policies.
Although there is fluctuation in bitcoin's price, some as a result of government recent policies on its mining, Its value guarantees less risk for savings than any other coins or fiat currency.
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October 27, 2022, 12:21:19 PM
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With recession lurking around some countries, bitcoin could be lifeboat for people looking for safe landing without it been influenced by government policies.

Yes and no. It depends very much on people and their finances. Bitcoin is great if you afford to hold for many years.
This usually doesn't happen in recession times, since the recession can bring higher prices, loss of jobs, ... forcing people spend their savings (including the bitcoins).

So yes, Bitcoin is great for people wanting to have 100% control on their money, if they afford to HODL. But recession complicates the things "a little".

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October 27, 2022, 01:14:57 PM
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Let's see how's Bitcoin performance when recession and high inflation rate increase happen, what I know is a macro economy factors will affect anything including Bitcoin price. It's not because Bitcoin isn't immune against recession and high inflation, but a bad macro economy will decrease people money and decrease their buy power. IMO next year will be a disaster and Bitcoin price will fall the lowest around $10-$15K.

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October 27, 2022, 02:10:45 PM
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While bitcoin's design and implementation to counteract negative recession trends are of the highest quality excellence.

Bitcoin becoming an asset traded by hedge funds and deep pocket speculators appears to have resulted in it being traded in lockstep with stocks and DOW averages.

Hopefully BTC will decouple from speculation trends to revert to former trading patterns.

In the price of gold we may see the same hedge fund speculation which has caused bitcoin price trends to derail off track.

In designing future cryptocurrency amendments might be made for insulating assets from market speculation of the largest investment institutions. That could be a necessary element for maintaining stable market prices which are purely influenced by fundamental market trading mechanics.
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Bitcoin is not a secure investment, there’s always a risk in this market and with recession, Bitcoin can also suffer a big drop so better not to be complacent and be wise. I agree that Bitcoin is still a good investment in the future but if you want to make more profit, better to buy at a cheaper price and sell at a good price, repeat this strategy until bull market, you can have more.
For people in most developing countries bitcoin is a very secure source and a reliable investment in this recession season. This is because even if bitcoin drop in price, there is still hope that it would rise again. But when most currencies in developing nations lose value, they never grow to recover their loss. That is why Nigerians prefer to save thier funds in bitcoin than saving it in the naira. The Nigerian currency has lost almost 80% of it's value in few years and there are no speculations or predictions that it would become strong In the nearest future.

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October 27, 2022, 09:39:40 PM
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Considering how amazing bitcoin is and what can be done with it, I have to say it’s definitely something that I would advise fairly a lot. This doesn't mean that it’s going to be very tough, it just means that we are going to see the crashes and that’s going to upset us of course, who wouldn't be upset with the price crashes on their investments, but to know that it is going to be fine is our luxury.

I know that the price crashed, and it is a sad thing, I rather see it 100k today, but I have the big advantage to know that it’s going to be 100k eventually one way or another. That type of feeling is the reason why I suggest people to buy and hold bitcoin at all times.

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October 27, 2022, 10:07:19 PM
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Bitcoin serve as a safe haven as per many and I hope that it works like this because if not, the recession will be more worst. Many are already preparing for this scenario, with Bitcoin they see this as an opportunity to store their money and wait for the market to recover. I can say that Bitcoin are more safe than to hold fiat money especially if there’s already a high inflation rate in your country, Bitcoin seems to be more stable.
Don't expect for stability
Don't expect for being safe haven
Don't expect for it to be a savior in times of recession

The best thing to be done is to make yourself find out lots of ways for you to get another source of income.Its true that it would be better not to make your fiat savings do being stored on a bank but rather make out investment that could generate some income on which this could really able to patch up whenever we do face up some difficulties in living.

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October 27, 2022, 11:27:03 PM
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Even if Bitcoin is too volatile, there’s still a high probability to make profit here than to hold your cash so the best option for now is to have some Bitcoin. Recession is inevitable, and the more you prepared for this the better. Bitcoin might not give any guarantee in the future but as long as you believe on a decentralized system, Bitcoin will prevail and hodlers will gain more later on. Be patience as we are going to deal with the recession, value your time to accumulate.

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This was discussed for years and when covid happened and a recession took place, we knew it wasn’t a safe haven.  It was originally created during the great financial crisis and people for years assumed it would be like Gold during a recession however it’s not the case.

It’s directly risk on and correlated with stocks pretty much like the nasdaq. Look at what happened today after Amazon earnings.
Amazon took a huge dive and so did Bitcoin. Pretty much at the exact same time.

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Yes, Bitcoin is indeed a relatively secure investment amidst recession. Although its correlation with the traditional market has been rising, as a matter of fact, hitting all time highs against S&P500 and Nasdaq within the year, it is a tendency for a number of companies not only to be unprofitable during a recession but also to even file for bankruptcy. With Bitcoin, you are more or less guaranteed that everything is temporary and better days will resume. Admittedly, however, it seems gold is still more secure than Bitcoin in times of recession. 

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Let's see how's Bitcoin performance when recession and high inflation rate increase happen, what I know is a macro economy factors will affect anything including Bitcoin price. It's not because Bitcoin isn't immune against recession and high inflation, but a bad macro economy will decrease people money and decrease their buy power. IMO next year will be a disaster and Bitcoin price will fall the lowest around $10-$15K.

Bitcoin's plunge during the economic crisis is undeniable, it is happening and will continue to happen if inflation continues to soar. But there is a difference between bitcoin and national currency, once the inflation is over, bitcoin will surely rise again and there will be strong rallies but for fiat, it is very difficult to revert to the pre-inflation value, most likely the value will stay the same as in inflation. That is why it is said that fiat loses value over time. All are affected by inflation but holding bitcoin is still more profitable in the long run.

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October 28, 2022, 01:19:25 PM
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When big investors realize that they don't need to play by the same rules as small investors because they have more power, well here is the importance of government and stakeholder support for BTC at this time because nothing supports Bitcoin except the trust of others, I feel this will having a solid value and eliminating the paradigm of investing in cryptocurrencies is a high-risk investment and in the end Bitcoin is a win-win solution / safe investment in the midst of the current recession.
In terms of investment, it is very difficult to equate thoughts, because each person or investor has their own thoughts that cannot be contested by others. Because basically every decision is made by each of them, it is based on research and very careful consideration on every thing that might happen in investment.

For example, such as risk, because it clearly exists even though it can still be avoided by every investor and for the direction of investing in Bitcoin I think only people who have believed and also certain who dare to make steps and attitudes to investment.

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October 28, 2022, 02:01:52 PM
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the Federal Reserve continuing to raise interest rates, many countries will face problems due to their inability to control liquidity and the rapid flight of capital abroad.
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Having the ease of mind that something you invested into will make you richer in the future no matter what happens in the middle is the luxury we have. Bitcoin is something that will go up faster than stocks, gold, whatever and that is the reason why we invest into it. I personally believe that as long as we invest into bitcoin, our future will be great and I am going to live a good life.

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October 28, 2022, 03:24:43 PM
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the Federal Reserve continuing to raise interest rates, many countries will face problems due to their inability to control liquidity and the rapid flight of capital abroad.
If the Fed continues in the next meeting in the same way and the recession is confirmed, many countries will face bigger problems that may lead to political strikes, demonstrations or acts of violence and sabotage.
It is best for everyone that things settle down.

Inflation has not decreased yet, Fed rate hike is inevitable. Their goal is to be able to bring the interest rate to 4.6% by 2023 and now after 3 rate hikes, the interest rate is already at 3%, that means the Fed will have 2 more high interest rate hikes to achieve their target. If they still maintain the view of raising interest rates to control inflation, the world will definitely have a recession, things will get worse in 2023.

If there is a recession, bitcoin will certainly have a negative impact, but in the long run bitcoin is still better and safer than holding too much fiat during a recession.

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October 29, 2022, 10:13:47 AM
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Yup, 1 bitcoin will always be equal to 1 bitcoin. That's the understanding that someone who invests on bitcoin. We know that the dollar value of it is the one big factors why people invests on it but if you want to get hold of your money, bitcoin is one of the best ways.
Looking at the potential and just be long term on it, that won't make you worry with the current situation and this is completely making us out from the financial system that's being made the banks and governments. Look at those banks in other countries, if their depositor wants to withdraw their money, they'll have their own rule apply on it and they'll make it hard for them. This has happened for some banks like in Lebanon and China AFAIK.

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October 29, 2022, 12:21:16 PM
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All assets go down in a recession, Bitcoin isn't going to be immune to the effects of a recession. The recovery of Bitcoin along with the global economy will be robust, so you shouldn't worry about your funds going up in flames, but in the event you need to liquidate your investment while the economy is still in recession, you're probably going lose money. It depends on how stable your country's currency is during recession, I suppose.

With recession lurking around some countries, bitcoin could be lifeboat for people looking for safe landing without it been influenced by government policies.
Although there is fluctuation in bitcoin's price, some as a result of government recent policies on its mining, Its value guarantees less risk for savings than any other coins or fiat currency.
1btc remains 1btc

The purchasing power still varies, though. 1 unit currency will always equal 1 unit currency when talking about fiat too.
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While they're calling it a recession or sometimes, even milder, something that feels like a recession, I feel like it's actually significantly worse than that and is becoming an economic crisis that will likely surpass the effects of the previous one. Among particularly bad things is devaluation of not only smaller local currencies, but of the biggest ones as well. Some might strengthen a bit, but I wouldn't expect recovery of value of fiat currency. As for Bitcoin, I do expect it to fully recover eventually, so long-term holding of it might help after the recession. But during the recession, there's no guarantee Bitcoin won't devaluate even more than fiat currencies, so it's not a savior even though potentially it can be.

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October 29, 2022, 02:15:22 PM
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Don't pretend the recession is keeping you from thinking clearly. Be wise in dealing with assets with high volatility, even bitcoin does not 100% guarantee you from big losses. Invest in a sufficient portion if during a recession because you need more cash to keep buying goods at increasingly expensive prices. Unless you have a lot of baskets to pick from, even so a recession will only worsen the price of any asset. And before the bank freezes your account, it means preparing cash to survive in the middle of a recession.

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October 29, 2022, 02:32:03 PM
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Yes, Bitcoin is indeed a relatively secure investment amidst recession. Although its correlation with the traditional market has been rising, as a matter of fact, hitting all time highs against S&P500 and Nasdaq within the year, it is a tendency for a number of companies not only to be unprofitable during a recession but also to even file for bankruptcy. With Bitcoin, you are more or less guaranteed that everything is temporary and better days will resume. Admittedly, however, it seems gold is still more secure than Bitcoin in times of recession. 
I also think that compared to Bitcoin gold is still a safe choice in times of recession,
during a recession we need to be wise in making decisions and that's important,
what is clear is always consider whatever it is before investing
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