A gambler who betrayed his friend's trust

[Issa56]

Is this real or just a story?

Charles was foolish. How would he trust friend up to that extent? That is foolishness. We should not handle life with foolishness, bet separately.

I don't think that's foolishness, someone you grow up together with and you have trusted the person with money  before and haven't disappointed you before, then you won't know he will definitely do something like this. I blame Kelvin just trying to be smart, someone that can trust you then you shouldn't ruin your friendship because of selfishness, if both of them shared the money am sure they will have both been living fine and comfortable, how will I have money and I will be comfortable seeing my friend suffering, that's really bad if am Charles I will just tell Kelvin my mind and then overlook it, definitely my own money will also come. With this post I think we shouldn't trust anybody whenever it comes to money related issues not even a friend.

[Porfirii]

First I will blame Charles for trusting too., when it comes to money not many people can be trusted or that can practice loyalty to friends so why should I trust anyone when the world is full of many fake friends who can betray you for a penny?
But then why did Charles chossw to do combine betting with his friend in the first place when we know that, when it comes to money. Not everyone can control themselves to maintain integrity.

It is right that Charles was a bit too candid, but the only one who acted ethically wrong was his friend, so I would only put the blame on Kelvin for that reason.

About the actions Charles can take... well, if tue money was clean, most probably in the court; if not clean things could get even worse.

[Quidat]

well i wonder:

- whose account was it used for depositing and betting?

- since the two of them were friends so that means that Charles knew Kelvin's house and family, because it doesn't make sense for them to be such close friends and he doesn't know anything about Kelvin.

on the question of whether Charles should go after Kelvin to charge him I think Charles shouldn't do that, there is the police and the court just to solve cases like these, if Kelvin wants justice then he should go to the police and not court

Then what things could he present out on regarding those claims? If the account been used is on Kevins?
What if Kevin denies that he's using his own money on making bets and not involving charles? How he would be able to prove out? There's no chance if everything is
done on verbal agreement and this is why its really hard to have so much trust even if he's your bestfriend or whatsoever.
Just like the rest been saying that when it comes to money then its really hard to trust specially when it do involves huge money that could
change up someones life.

[Oshosondy]

I don't think that's foolishness, someone you grow up together with and you have trusted the person with money  before and haven't disappointed you before, then you won't know he will definitely do something like this. I blame Kelvin just trying to be smart, someone that can trust you then you shouldn't ruin your friendship because of selfishness, if both of them shared the money am sure they will have both been living fine and comfortable, how will I have money and I will be comfortable seeing my friend suffering, that's really bad if am Charles I will just tell Kelvin my mind and then overlook it, definitely my own money will also come. With this post I think we shouldn't trust anybody whenever it comes to money related issues not even a friend.

If I do anything like that, that means I am very foolish. Not his father, not his mother. My father and mother (especially my mother precisely) are the two people I can trust up to the extent I know they can not completely betray me because what is theirs can be said to be mine as well. But I can not even be stupid to add up my money with my parent money for us to gamble together, we can do it differently. Even as for my brothers, I can never trust them to that extent at all, we would have to bet differently, not to talk of a friend. Even as I trade more, I trade alone, nothing of money can involve my friend and I except if I should borrow them money, I can not even borrow them the amount of money I can not afford to give them as a friend because they can still fail to give you back. Let us take life as it is.

[dothebeats]

This is no longer about gambling but more about morals. Only those greedy enough who doesn't have the morals can do such thing. Most gamblers I knew would still share the winnings, or in order to avoid this from happening wouldn't pool their money at all. Also nowadays, people are very easy to find if you have leads and prior connection. He might not have any legal reason to pursue his 'friend' but I think this can be made to a case of estafa or anything and get his money back. Then again, no legal basis/writing = basically it didn't happen.

[fortunecrypto]

If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.

If I have evidence that I shared my money with Kelvin to win that jackpot then I will go to court and demand a friend who betrayed to give me my share, when it comes to gambling people should not share their bets even with relatives because the true color of people will show up when they have huge money in their hands but if you don't have pieces of evidence then there's nothing you can do, even if you confront him and ask assistance from authorities he will just deny it.

[DoublerHunter]

~snip~
Kelvin secretly withdrew the money and ran away to another state where he feels Charles wouldn't find me, Charles woke up and checked the game,then called his friend but he was nowhere to be seen. Three months later a friend of Charles saw Kelvin living in a big house with a luxurious lifestyle and told Charles.
All these happened because Charles trusted Kelvin

If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.

^ I can't spend and kept my when it bothers my conscience, I cannot sleep well in that way.
Well If I were Charles and my friend betrayed me, that is how I measure our friendship and it's proven that money matters between you so he is not a true friend of yours. Money is easy to spend and easy to lose but you cannot buy trust with someone else, it takes so long before you will gain it and it will never buy. So let him spend all of our money won and let him not sleep well. Someday he will realize that friendship is more important than money.  

[STT]

What was the advantage to not just placing two separate bets, not sure I get taking a risk unneeded.   Quite a few people are awful with money and its not being a good friend to put that failure possible in their path, still their fault but best not to tempt alot of people into something negative.

so that the win will also be bigger.

sorry doesnt make sense and easily avoided, the rest you cant do that much about just human flaws which are not rare thats life.

[Saisher]

There's betrayal between friends when their money involved especially if it's a huge amount of money, real friends never borrow share, or co-partnership with each other and when it comes to gambling you don't pool your money to be unless there is an escrow, because there's a possibility of winning a huge amount of money, you can demand a share if you have evidence that you pool your money but if there is none you can't do something about it, the lesson here is if you're pooling your money in gambling be sure you have evidence in case of betrayal.

[rhomelmabini]

If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.

There will be consequences on that and surely go after him to deserve justice, maybe filing a report will do differently or just keep talking to him to get the money you're suppose to be having. It may sounds a little bit out of hand considering how egoistic Kelvin is but you just have to try if it will do.

[Issa56]

If I do anything like that, that means I am very foolish. Not his father, not his mother. My father and mother (especially my mother precisely) are the two people I can trust up to the extent I know they can not completely betray me because what is theirs can be said to be mine as well. But I can not even be stupid to add up my money with my parent money for us to gamble together, we can do it differently. Even as for my brothers, I can never trust them to that extent at all, we would have to bet differently, not to talk of a friend. Even as I trade more, I trade alone, nothing of money can involve my friend and I except if I should borrow them money, I can not even borrow them the amount of money I can not afford to give them as a friend because they can still fail to give you back. Let us take life as it is.

I know it's difficult to trust someone when it comes to money aspect even if the person is your family member, but seriously am having some friends not really more than 3 that I do trust with everything about me not money alone, they have access to my ATM card and they know my pin and I also have access to their ATM, we have been together for year's and we have done some businesses together, which they distributed the profit equally, we have helped each other during cretical moments, someone that we have been together for many years and the person haven't cheated me before, why won't I trust him? So should I say when a very huge amount connects us together, they will also disappoint me which I don't think so. Am having 3 of my friends that I trust with my money and 1 of my brother.

[bitbollo]

One of the best rule I have learned while using bitcoin and following this "world" is
Don't Trust Verify.

if there is not any real proof of the payment between these two friends it's really hard to prove this bet was played/decided by them.
Otherwise, it could be possible also there is a threat/blackmail.
"You own my money/we decide to bet together you need to pay me".

I think that Kelvin was a piece of s*** meanwhile it's really hard for Calvin "demonstrate" (in any case) they have made this bet together.

[GxSTxV]

If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.

Well i heard another story in gambling with two friends last days in youtube about two friends that were gambling in slots, an old story where online casinos doesn’t exist the slots machines were new so they are full of glitches and these two friends found out that glitch in a poker slot machine where they can generate a lot of money daily then they had a fight were one of them decided to stop so they don’t get caught the other didn’t agree, but because of that fight both were doing their maximum to get more money and became a competition until one of them got caught but they didn’t discover the glitch, he got banned from all casinos so he called his friend to stop and warn him but the other didn’t believe him and thought it’s just a story he created to scare him. So he continued aggressively until he got caught also and they discovered the glitch both went to jail for doing that.
So in my opinion i will let kelvin and accepte that loss and betrayal for my mistake of trusting someone that obviously he will finally get attempted by that much money. Going after him to justice will cost me only money and time while i can move on and accept my stupidity

[_act_]

- whose account was it used for depositing and betting?

Maybe this is not common or not in some other countries, betting agents. With betting agents, you do not have to register online and bet, you can go to the betting agent, bet and you will be given slip which you must not lose. If the bet is won, go with the slip to the betting agent you used to bet and you will be given your money. That could be what that happened.

[Rruchi man]

You should know that there are two categories of gamblers, the gamblers who are desperate and greedy and have let the pursuit of money cloud their conscience, while those who are not too desperate and just gamble mostly for fun but don't mind winning. It is obvious that the friend who betrayed the other one falls into the category of the desperate gamblers. If you are able to observe that anyone around you, friend or even family is desperate and greedy for money you cannot trust them with agreements regarding money.

[Doell]

If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.

Charles was so reckless and Kelvin so greedy, crime because there is an opportunity. With this story I'll go to catch Kelvin if I become Charles there's only me and him, the law doesn't need to know, due to his behavior so he not a friend anymore. Kelvin is so petty he's not a real friend, and a real friend won't steal money, there is only fun in friendship

[tabas]

@OP, is this a story that really happened and existed or just another fantasy that would be good to read to learn some lessons? But if this is for real and I'm on the situation of Charles, I'll just let it go and let him be happy with his life and I won't bother him anymore.
Because I believe in karma and riches that comes from like that will be gone and out too quickly and the good karma shall happen to me in some other days of my life or if there's none, I'm good with my conscience not to disturb him.

[8rch7]

Money is not everything but everything requires money, it is very difficult to find friends who can be trusted because there are so many friends now who stab us in the back, especially regarding money problems and women's problems, it's better from now on you have to avoid friends like that because if you continue to be friends with him for sure he will repeat the same mistakes even worse than before, he will take your money he will also have sex with your wife, you should leave a friend like him before it's too late.

[KennyR]

If this is real story, then I'll try to make the friend understand and get my part. At some point he'll truly understand and if he isn't ready to give the winning amount, then it is upto him. It'll be a learning for me, money can make any kind of changes in ones life. Once again as the past days I'll spend what I've been spending on gambling. If I'm lucky I'll be able to make such bets.

Just think of the situation in which both the friends have shared the winning. In such case the winning will keep the friends boosted to go for further bets with the winning amount which could bring more big wins.

[PX-Z]

Is this a real life incident, name place, amount win, etc.? But anyway, yes, this really happened.
For those greedy, greed always money means everything no matter what will be steppin in, friendship, family etc.

For the question, i dont know what charles can do about it legally, or if there is existing law on his country of origin regarding the case then sue him. If there's none, this always resort to some worst scenario, revenge, lastly killings, who knows what kind of person charles is.