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October 30, 2022, 02:57:07 PM
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A better topic title is like:
  • "8 years ago today, totally $500,000 was distributed to MIT students, $100 for each

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/29/mit-student-bitcoin-wall-street-donor

The better title you suggest I should put there is too long to enter the space provided for title in this forum. However, the article stated that each student got $100. Title even on newspapers is made in a short form to attract people to read the article. Titles like this; Mother of 4 dies of pleasure" many people will go through the article and realize that what happened is different from the topic.

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October 30, 2022, 03:21:16 PM
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Giving-away free bitcoin to thousands of people is the best vehicle to Mass adoption.
In the past it was easy to distribute bitcoin or say as a rewarding system like there was faucet site giving away 5 btc to the users but if we seek the same thing now for mass adoption then it's impossible depending on the price level of $19k and suppose if you want to distribute it then how much you have to spend in total? So in the past it was fine but you can opt for various other ways if you are interested in mass adoption of bitcoin.

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October 30, 2022, 03:25:30 PM
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...I signed up here in 2014, but I was nowhere to be seen in less than a year. Thus, it's hypocritical for me to call these students out, because I myself have lost interest in Bitcoin. I wasn't given a free airdrop, though, but chances are that I'd do the same.

I would never have thought that you registered on the forum before me, although I followed the forum as a guest sometime in the middle of 2014, and I registered only a year later. It was still a time of extremely high doubts about whether Bitcoin has a future or not, whether it will ever be worth $1000 again or is just a "mirage" as the famous The Oracle of Omaha said at the time.

If we are honest, at that time free Bitcoin was much more realistic than today in the sense that you could literally earn some through faucets - These were not large amounts in fiat ($2-3), but with a price of around $200/250 per BTC and with a little help from referrals, you could collect 1 BTC within a reasonable time. What I want to tell you is that most people did not consider Bitcoin to have a greater value than what was then expressed in fiat, and that's how they treated it.

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October 30, 2022, 04:30:22 PM
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The better title you suggest I should put there is too long to enter the space provided for title in this forum.
How about this one like I used "In 2014, totally $500,000 was distributed to MIT students, $100 each"?

People don't have to know exact date in 2014 when that distribution was made. If they are interested in and spend time to read the sourced article, they will find the date.

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However, the article stated that each student got $100.
Not all students get it. Only eligible students and if they claimed it.

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Title even on newspapers is made in a short form to attract people to read the article.

Titles like this; Mother of 4 dies of pleasure" many people will go through the article and realize that what happened is different from the topic.
Yes, the shorter the better and the more attractive the better. If you want to make an attractive and shocking title to catch readers, you can use misleading words intentionally.

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October 30, 2022, 05:16:19 PM
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That’s amazing how they did it back then and taught those student this is new recipe worth trying out and definitely most of them turned into hodlers for sure. I am wondering if any of those students are present on the forum or not because there is pretty high chance someone must be from that group on the forum for obvious reason of bitcoin and blockchain tech discussion.

This was good move by MIT group. Wish we had more such news coming out from various technological institutions and also from financial institute. Like giving some practical approach for using the bitcoin. :-)
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October 30, 2022, 05:25:59 PM
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Yes ofcourse, considering bitcoin was so cheap and so new back then, it made sense to distribute it among the students.
I wonder if any of those students still hold their coins they would be so happy right now.
I guess what MIT did back then was an important step for bitcoin and it did created an impact in starting the widespread adoption.

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October 30, 2022, 05:39:22 PM
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World's top universities are often places of innovation and where new things can kick off. It's an impressive research, and $100 worth of BTC for thousands is very impressive. I wanted to learn more, so I read the article, but I was surprised to see that it's unknown how many of the participants sold their coins. I thought that research was supposed to track that sort of stuff. Also, only 14% still using BTC is quite a sad number. I remember how El Salvador was claimed to have failed in adoption because out of those who got their $30 worth of BTC, a small percentage used their wallets after using up this money. It feels like, as an adoption experiment, the MIT case also shows some failure.

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October 30, 2022, 06:19:52 PM
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I remember this article about a university in America where the students received some bitcoins which can be amazing for a time like today and a price like what we see right now but unfortunately as far as I know mostly the students sold the bitcoins while they could hold and get more benefits over it

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October 30, 2022, 07:07:02 PM
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The better title you suggest I should put there is too long to enter the space provided for title in this forum.
How about this one like I used "In 2014, totally $500,000 was distributed to MIT students, $100 each"?

People don't have to know exact date in 2014 when that distribution was made. If they are interested in and spend time to read the sourced article, they will find the date.

Quote
However, the article stated that each student got $100.
Not all students get it. Only eligible students and if they claimed it.

Quote
Title even on newspapers is made in a short form to attract people to read the article.

Titles like this; Mother of 4 dies of pleasure" many people will go through the article and realize that what happened is different from the topic.
Yes, the shorter the better and the more attractive the better. If you want to make an attractive and shocking title to catch readers, you can use misleading words intentionally.

I like the position of the adverb "totally" in the topic you created and they are other shorter formats like "incredible! 5000 MIT students received $100 each in 2014" Starting the sentence with the adjective "incredible" explains how wonderful the project was in 2014 and how interesting it'll be to recent readers of the article who wants to dig further about the distribution of 100 dollars to 5000 students. Definitely, they'll discover that not all 5000 students claimed their airdrop.

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Yes ofcourse, considering bitcoin was so cheap and so new back then, it made sense to distribute it among the students.
I wonder if any of those students still hold their coins they would be so happy right now.
I guess what MIT did back then was an important step for bitcoin and it did created an impact in starting the widespread adoption.
Btc isn't really cheap now. Will it mean it's more valuable now to hodl than to gave it away? It's sad but this is the mindset of the people. They will only value things once they know that they can benefit out of it. It is said that the students are given an option to spend their coins so they spend it right away. If not then some will likely sell it during the pump but if there are students who manage to keep their btc up until now, I don't think their reaction is happy because this year is a dump year. They will regret and think they should have sold their btc last year although there is still a chance for the bull to return so maybe they will wait once more.
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November 02, 2022, 07:14:54 PM
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The experiment is well described in the following article on MIT’s website, though from a July 2017’s perspective in interpreting the aftermaths of the experiment (meaning that it is not followed through to today):

https://news.mit.edu/2017/bitcoin-study-period-exclusivity-encourages-early-adopters-0713

The discrepancy in the number of participants between articles is due to the interpretation of what each number represents: Whilst the 5.000 number (4.494 really) represents the number of students that were offered to participate, only a subset of them, 3.100, actually enrolled in the experiment.
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Looking at the cost of btc then, it was  cheaper than it is now so therefore the not could afford it as it is a reputable organization. I believe this step taken was to onboard their students into blockchain which was the major goal which was successfully achieved and completed and it was also in Record as the first organization to have carried out such give away. This helps a long way because thousands of students were gifted Bitcoin which however aided the fast and wide spread of the awareness of Bitcoin globally. I believe these sets of students who got this give away must have onboarded new sets of people  into the system. And it also aided in the fast circulation of Bitcoin.
The issue of tracking wallet would likely be near impossible because some of the students might have sold out while receiving and some might have bought more as well while others might decide not to do anything at the initial instance so tell me how do you know who the wallet addresses of the students and do not forget that there are other wallets likely holding same amount of Bitcoin outside the ones distributed to the students. This is the reality so you need do proper research before coming for argument.

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November 02, 2022, 09:32:21 PM
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Giving-away free bitcoin to thousands of people is the best vehicle to Mass adoption.
It may not be so efficient. If free bitcoins are still distributed to people, More than 40% of these persons will quickly convert to fiat to spend it without considering to HODL.
Yes.. I totally agree with what you just said, because considering the economy of most countries, people won't think twice to convert a free distributed bitcoin to fiat currency instantly dor purchase of foods and other stuff needed for survival, because in this case, it can only take someone who believed in the Bitcoin movement to had held it till this moment, whoch eventually would have been rewarded with a massage return of investment after this 8yrs. So statements like this is equally normal, as in the next 8yrs from now, some persons will still also be regreting and wished they had invested today too

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Yes ofcourse, considering bitcoin was so cheap and so new back then, it made sense to distribute it among the students.
I wonder if any of those students still hold their coins they would be so happy right now.
I guess what MIT did back then was an important step for bitcoin and it did created an impact in starting the widespread adoption.
Btc isn't really cheap now. Will it mean it's more valuable now to hodl than to gave it away? It's sad but this is the mindset of the people. They will only value things once they know that they can benefit out of it. It is said that the students are given an option to spend their coins so they spend it right away. If not then some will likely sell it during the pump but if there are students who manage to keep their btc up until now, I don't think their reaction is happy because this year is a dump year. They will regret and think they should have sold their btc last year although there is still a chance for the bull to return so maybe they will wait once more.

That's probably the right thing to do anyway. Everyone knows the ATH of bitcoin and would not sell it at this price.
But even if those MIT students were holding BTC until know they are already having lots of gains and it won't harm them to sell it at this price.
A trader should never regret once he has sold in profit. Besides that these students had got it as a reward and so they can sell it at any price given that they had still hold on to it.

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November 03, 2022, 05:42:56 PM
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This following link contains a more in-depth (and statistical) description of the experiment and its results at the time they were measured, bettering the content found on this other document, and written by the authors of the experiment themselves:

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2822729

Just to highlight a couple of things:

-   The main goal of the experiment was to see what people did with their airdropped bitcoins after 2 weeks.

-   For contrasting purposes, they created to groups: the first group received their BTCs on day x, whilst the second group received it two weeks later.

-   They tracked cashing-out through the digital wallet provider (for those that did not resort to a custodial wallet – 29% used an open-source solution – presumably custodial).

-   They added other variables to study the groups from different perspectives (social network, attitude towards bitcoin, demographics, whether they were new to bitcoin (89% were) and so forth.

Essentially, nearly 10% cashed-out within two weeks after receiving their bitcoins, where the segment of so called early-adopters (see below) did so at higher rates (10,8% for those in the first group, 18,3% for those in the second).

There are some specifics I personally don’t like in the study. For example, the use of the label "early adopter" is given to those that signed-up earliest to the experiment (the first 25%). The assigned half of these early adopters to each of the two main groups (as said, group 2 received there bitcoins two weeks after group 1). Considering they had 5 days to sign-up for the experiment, it seems to me like an overkill tag. They are early birds, but not early adopters.

Additionally, the document talks about studying how students rejected (or accepted bitcoin), associating rejection to selling bitcoin for USD. That is by far a wrong concept, or at least, choice of words, even likely so back in 2014 when the experiment took place.

I haven’t taken a look at the data in detail, but the second group of early adopters likely cashed-out significantly more in numbers due to the influence of those in the first group and/or variation of price in between cashing-out windows of the two groups (I haven’t contrasted this hypothesis though).
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