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November 01, 2022, 07:55:07 AM
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why was my post deleted after i posted?
and why when i don't make a post, none of my posts get deleted?
Your posts are deleted because someone reports them and moderators agree with the reporter. When you don't make any post, no one see you and your posts aren't noticed by spam busters.

I checked few of your posts. You say things that have been said multiple times in the previous posts.
Click here to see one of your deleted posts on Loyce.club.
You made this post on 25th page of a thread just to say that bitcoin is a good investment and investing in centralized coins is wrong. The same thing has been surely mentioned in the previous 500 posts multiple times.

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November 01, 2022, 10:04:02 AM
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The deletion of posts should not be considered as a grudge against you just because you are in a campaign. You should consider it as a stepping stone to improve.
i never feel resentful when my post is deleted by a moderator if it looks like my post is not constructive.
even if my post is deleted everything that looks like a shit post, i'm very grateful because i can learn from the mistakes i made.
but i'm just confused by the way of deletion which i think is not fair.

Probably because he is used to dirtying the gambling section with rubbish and not having it erased.
for your reply, sorry i never had any intention of shit posts in the gambling section. you can see in my post history if i often make shit posts in gambling discussions

Your posts are deleted because someone reports them and moderators agree with the reporter. When you don't make any post, no one see you and your posts aren't noticed by spam busters.
like you said if i don't do anything no one will see my post
but if i do a post why is my old post deleted?not my latest post?
maybe there are those who don't like it if i join one of the signature campaigns.
i think if that person sees a lot of my crappy posts, they should report them all at once without waiting for me to post.

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November 01, 2022, 10:43:06 AM
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i never feel resentful when my post is deleted by a moderator if it looks like my post is not constructive.
even if my post is deleted everything that looks like a shit post, i'm very grateful because i can learn from the mistakes i made.
but i'm just confused by the way of deletion which i think is not fair.
There's nothing is unfair, if you think it's unfair you can show the post that shouldn't deserve to get deleted.

As long as your post get deleted by moderators, this mean the user who reported your post is right and you should correct your past mistake.

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but if i do a post why is my old post deleted?not my latest post?
It depends on the user who reported your post, if they're report your old post, that's the reason why your old post get deleted.

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i think if that person sees a lot of my crappy posts, they should report them all at once without waiting for me to post.
Who're you? it's up to the user when they want to report your post and which post he will report it. No one can control them, actually if you don't like your old post get deleted, you need to delete it yourself (you can't delete your post due to few things).

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November 01, 2022, 01:06:14 PM
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There's nothing is unfair, if you think it's unfair you can show the post that shouldn't deserve to get deleted.
i'm not saying that i feel unfair that my post has been deleted. but i said i feel unfair with the way of deletion

As long as your post get deleted by moderators, this mean the user who reported your post is right and you should correct your past mistake.
if the user who reported my post is correct, why doesn't that user go to my profile then check my posts that look unconstructive and report at the same time? why report my post after i make a new post?
even though the user has the opportunity to report all my low-quality posts at one time, not one by one


that's what i mean by unfair. and maybe you need to understand my words again

Who're you? it's up to the user when they want to report your post and which post he will report it. No one can control them, actually if you don't like your old post get deleted, you need to delete it yourself (you can't delete your post due to few things).
who're me ? i'm sure i'm not you.
i created this thread looking for a solution hoping someone in the forums can give me the best advice. not looking for a way to control other users from reporting my posts.

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November 01, 2022, 01:20:50 PM
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from all my suspicions or doubts about the deletion of posts or replies that have occurred, i hope someone can explain in detail the reasons for deleting posts one by one without deleting all my posts that look wrong.
if the answer is correct and detailed, i will try to accept all of them without worrying about this anymore

Maybe someone sends you a message that way? And the message is to change something about your posts because otherwise they will continue to be deleted. I personally have nothing to do with it, and this is just my opinion - but someone obviously considers you a sig spammer, maybe you should check your trust wall?

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November 01, 2022, 01:44:30 PM
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but i'm just confused by the way of deletion which i think is not fair.

What's unfair? The moderators delete your posts because they consider them to be low-quality shitposts. If you feel this is unfair, then I suggest you stop writing such posts and improve your writing style.

if the user who reported my post is correct, why doesn't that user go to my profile then check my posts that look unconstructive and report at the same time? why report my post after i make a new post?
even though the user has the opportunity to report all my low-quality posts at one time, not one by one

You still don't understand how forum moderation works. It doesn't matter when your post gets deleted, you still don't know when that post was reported to the moderators or if it was reported at all. Some reports may remain unresolved for several days before being dealt with, and some posts may be deleted even if no other members report them. It's a moderator's job to keep the forum free of spam and crappy posts as much as possible.

that's what i mean by unfair. and maybe you need to understand my words again

Perhaps you need to choose better words to explain yourself?

who're me ? i'm sure i'm not you.
i created this thread looking for a solution hoping someone in the forums can give me the best advice. not looking for a way to control other users from reporting my posts.

"who're me"? Are you seriously still wondering why your posts are being reported and deleted?

Forum moderation and reporting posts is not about controlling other members but about making this community a better place for everyone. My best advice to you is to stop chasing your weekly signature quota and instead start writing meaningful and constructive posts that other members can benefit from.

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November 01, 2022, 01:48:23 PM
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There's nothing is unfair, if you think it's unfair you can show the post that shouldn't deserve to get deleted.
i'm not saying that i feel unfair that my post has been deleted. but i said i feel unfair with the way of deletion

I do believe it is not moderators activity, it could be Bot behavior.

I have made a total of 27 new posts from October 24 to October 27 - and exactly 27 old posts were deleted in the same time frame.

Every day the number of posts I make and the number of old posts getting deleted are the same.

Moderators cannot monitor my activities for 24H/7 days to find me online and delete old posts within an hour or half hour after posting a new discussion.

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I do believe it is not moderators activity, it could be Bot behavior.
I would no longer post in this forum, if I believed that my posts are deleted without being reviewed by a human and they are all deleted by a bot.

Moderators cannot monitor my activities for 24H/7 days to find me online and delete old posts within an hour or half hour after posting a new discussion.
You are right. Moderatos don't waste their time on monitoring your activity.
Moderators review your posts if they are reported. It's not that they are always looking at your post history to check if you have made a new post.

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November 01, 2022, 02:11:37 PM
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I do believe it is not moderators activity, it could be Bot behavior.
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Moderators cannot monitor my activities for 24H/7 days to find me online and delete old posts within an hour or half hour after posting a new discussion.


I know that there is at least one active bot (@Mitchell), but I don't know if it works in such a way that it can detect how many new posts someone has written and delete that many posts every day. Maybe there is some new bot that we don't know about, and if it's aimed at Gambling, maybe someone decided to clean up that board a bit. Let's remember the famous bot because of which thousands of user accounts were perma-banned, of course not automatically, but after the moderators had done their part.

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I know that there is at least one active bot (@Mitchell), but I don't know if it works in such a way that it can detect how many new posts someone has written and delete that many posts every day. Maybe there is some new bot that we don't know about, and if it's aimed at Gambling, maybe someone decided to clean up that board a bit. Let's remember the famous bot because of which thousands of user accounts were perma-banned, of course not automatically, but after the moderators had done their part.
My bot only deals with Newbie accounts and does not care how much someone posts.

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November 01, 2022, 03:11:01 PM
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Maybe someone sends you a message that way? And the message is to change something about your posts because otherwise they will continue to be deleted. I personally have nothing to do with it, and this is just my opinion - but someone obviously considers you a sig spammer, maybe you should check your trust wall?
yes i see my trust wall being judged as a spammer.
but i think, i made a thread also hope if there really is someone who sees my post low quality please report it at the same time. so I would feel better if it was done all at once.
but after this i will try to be even better improve my post


What's unfair? The moderators delete your posts because they consider them to be low-quality shitposts. If you feel this is unfair, then I suggest you stop writing such posts and improve your writing style.
what i mean is unfair is the way of deletion or the way users report my posts as manipulated and on purpose.
if indeed another user is intentionally researching all my posts and wants to report my low quality posts, he can do it at one time and report all posts together without one by one.
so that all my low quality posts are deleted all at one time.
but i thank you for giving me suggestions to improve my post. sorry if my writing style is still not good
My best advice to you is to stop chasing your weekly signature quota and instead start writing meaningful and constructive posts that other members can benefit from.
thanks for the advice you gave me.


I do believe it is not moderators activity, it could be Bot behavior.
Moderators cannot monitor my activities for 24H/7 days to find me online and delete old posts within an hour or half hour after posting a new discussion.
i think it's not bot-like but it was intentional by other users. (just estimation)
but i also don't know what exactly happened. so let's stay here until we find the right answer.




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November 01, 2022, 03:35:05 PM
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...is someone who sees my post low quality please report it at the same time. so I would feel better if it was done all at once.

You see, that's exactly the point, and I still stand behind someone sending you a message in this way - or he's just bored in life and wanted to cause this kind of reaction. Avoid spam megathreads and generic answers, try to be unique in each post.

ps : i will lock the thread once this problem is solved

It's your decision, but I don't see that you will find out anything more in the sense that whoever is behind it will come forward. As for reports, everyone is provided with privacy and everything remains between the reporters and moderators.

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November 01, 2022, 04:51:13 PM
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There's nothing is unfair, if you think it's unfair you can show the post that shouldn't deserve to get deleted.
i'm not saying that i feel unfair that my post has been deleted. but i said i feel unfair with the way of deletion

I do believe it is not moderators activity, it could be Bot behavior.

I have made a total of 27 new posts from October 24 to October 27 - and exactly 27 old posts were deleted in the same time frame.

Every day the number of posts I make and the number of old posts getting deleted are the same.

Moderators cannot monitor my activities for 24H/7 days to find me online and delete old posts within an hour or half hour after posting a new discussion.


First, you need to know that usually someone reports the posts and it will get deleted if mods think that the reported post is a spam post and should be deleted. If more than one person will report the same post, it will further confluence as it means that more members think it is a spam post but the final decision of deleting or not deleting a post is by the moderators.

Now coming to our particular case, do you mean to say that (for example) you did 20 posts from 10th October to 17th October and none of those posts gets deleted? However, did your old 20 posts prior to 10th October get deleted? If this is the case, then there is something wrong i guess.

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November 01, 2022, 05:24:30 PM
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Now coming to our particular case, do you mean to say that (for example) you did 20 posts from 10th October to 17th October and none of those posts gets deleted? However, did your old 20 posts prior to 10th October get deleted? If this is the case, then there is something wrong i guess.

Yes, you got it now, last two weeks I've made 25+25 posts, and none of those have been deleted.

However, I cannot agree with all of len01's statements.

He acknowledged that his posts might be unproductive. However, I cannot see anything unproductive or spammy in my case.



This is the last post that was deleted today, I can't see any single reason for deleting it.

If it wasn't bot behavior, if they checked manually, then none of my posts would have been deleted, if they deleted my post for spam/off-topic reasons then they should also have deleted others' posts who replied to me.

I'm not sure if moderators use bots or any automated software these days. But it should not be, this is not the right approach to stop spam. Their activity seems spammy to me.

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This is the last post that was deleted today, I can't see any single reason for deleting it.

According to his post history, @len01 is a clear case of a signature spammer. Your post history looks much different, so you shouldn't be comparing your posts to his.
You'd better open your own topic and ask the moderators for their opinion, because I don't see any particular reason for deleting your posts. It's possible that the moderators made a mistake in their assessment. They're only human, after all.

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November 01, 2022, 10:40:46 PM
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Post frequently gets deleted as anything posted below the forum's criterion is accounted as ''sub standard " therefore, if the mods gets specific scrutiny on a certain section, then realizing a loophole that'll mean -- derailing people's focus, plans, mindset, ideology -- then they'll have to get rid of that. To the best of my knowledge -- the mods where selected to raise a standard above spam post; since I haven't really seen Peeps complaining about this issue -- whatever decision they take is unquestionable,...like, I mean the mods themselves.
I don't really know the content of your deleted post but you just need to watch out so you could avoid 'em pegans next time, probably.

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November 02, 2022, 12:25:54 AM
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This is the last post that was deleted today, I can't see any single reason for deleting it.

According to his post history, @len01 is a clear case of a signature spammer. Your post history looks much different, so you shouldn't be comparing your posts to his.
You'd better open your own topic and ask the moderators for their opinion, because I don't see any particular reason for deleting your posts. It's possible that the moderators made a mistake in their assessment. They're only human, after all.

Kudos to you for daring to speak against the tide. Likewise, thanks to Lucius and UmerIdrees for talking about something constructive instead of making baseless arguments.

To be honest, I have no intention of spamming the forum. I post 24 to 25 a week and don't go above 3 to 4 daily as I try to maintain overall quality. While it is not rare to find many campaigners making 50 to 80+ posts a week.

I will refrain from opening a new thread while there is already one. Hopefully, this thread will be noticed by the moderators and everything will be normal.

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November 02, 2022, 05:34:02 AM
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You see, that's exactly the point, and I still stand behind someone sending you a message in this way - or he's just bored in life and wanted to cause this kind of reaction. Avoid spam megathreads and generic answers, try to be unique in each post.
It's your decision, but I don't see that you will find out anything more in the sense that whoever is behind it will come forward. As for reports, everyone is provided with privacy and everything remains between the reporters and moderators.
after i made this thread and many suggestions from some other users, i came to know what i should do.
and i will try to do what you suggest


Now coming to our particular case, do you mean to say that (for example) you did 20 posts from 10th October to 17th October and none of those posts gets deleted? However, did your old 20 posts prior to 10th October get deleted? If this is the case, then there is something wrong i guess.
that's what i mean. just yesterday i created this thread and answered all the questions from some other users. and finally yesterday there were also 5 of my posts which were deleted on October 27 and so on

However, I cannot agree with all of len01's statements.

He acknowledged that his posts might be unproductive. However, I cannot see anything unproductive or spammy in my case.
because at first i thought too much that there were users who intentionally reported it one by one, not all at once and i thought it was like manipulation.
but after you explain your statement i understand what you mean. and there are some of my posts too which can be said not to be out of topic but still deleted by the moderator. maybe it's just spam, and i admit it

but im sorry for giving you the wrong statement


I will refrain from opening a new thread while there is already one. Hopefully, this thread will be noticed by the moderators and everything will be normal.
you have to stay here. because im sure even though we have different problems, but im sure that later we will get an answer from this thread

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November 02, 2022, 08:51:06 AM
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Contacting the moderator the delete your post is the best way to find an answer to your concern.
I do not think there would be any need for that for now, let him post the posts that were deleted first for us to see. Posts that were often deleted were worth it to be deleted has been what I know about this forum since I joined. I will also advice him that if posts are often deleted like that, he should have more quality ways of posting which I think would be this thread conclusion.
Sometimes it's not something of low quality, somebody can continuously reporting your Post because it come across of a two or three post you posted and it's not impressed of the Post and such will trigger it's angers to be visiting your profile subsequently to report your post, when you check the Post deleted you will notice that some of them are quality post, but if someone is against you it can be reporting your occasionally and either you post meaningfully or not it will report your post.
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that's what i mean. just yesterday i created this thread and answered all the questions from some other users. and finally yesterday there were also 5 of my posts which were deleted on October 27 and so on

This is to be expected. By creating this topic, you have attracted the attention of many members who are now combing through your post history. This means that even more of your low value posts will be reported and deleted.

... but im sure that later we will get an answer from this thread

You already got the answer, and I think you know what to do: Stop writing shit posts! I don't know what else you expect from this thread.

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