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November 02, 2022, 07:14:20 AM
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You have sense, I thought I was the only one thinking this. It did not start with online casinos, it started with online trading and betting on the markets, there are some countries they dare not trash with, or else, they would regret it. The advanced countries are peculiar to better perks and treatments, and in case you didn't know, you might think you guys are betting on the same platform, but they often redirect them to their different sites/platforms.

Different service/treatments to different regions, this is not just happening. It even happens among fiat payment systems to show how peculiar it is.

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November 02, 2022, 07:34:12 AM
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If it is a local casino, they may use it to limit the amount of money the winner can withdraw or limit the winning money that the gambler can win. But if it's from a casino site, I think it will be difficult but the casino can easily not allow the winner to withdraw his winnings and use various excuses not to pay his winnings.

And if it happens at a local casino, maybe the winner can report it to the local government to investigate so that the authority can ask the casino and the winner can get the total winnings. But I also do not understand legal issues like this.

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November 02, 2022, 09:05:17 AM
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That’s slot machine and probably the casinos are using something to limit the number of winners or else, many will make money if they didn’t control it and that mat cause them a bankruptcy. Casinos knows how to win always and that’s the reality even if the authority asked them for this, they can easily defend that because that’s how gambling works and we have to deal with that.

For slot machines, of course, they can set the RTP so that they will have all the advantage, i.e. house edge.

But as far as the premise of the OP, I totally disagree with it, casino's will and should not go that extent, it's already cheating per se. Again, they can set up everything to favor them, but I doubt that they will cheat it that way. Let the house edge win the game for them. Because as the longer we play, the higher the chances that we are going to lose.

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November 02, 2022, 09:39:52 AM
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

Good question, but I guess casinos won't bother to pay more to program a specific location where they limit a payout for users located in that particular territory, because they can do it generally if they want to. Besides, VPN can be very helpful in this matter.
Unfortunately, this will eliminate the "provably fair" motto for most of the casinos. And, we don't exactly know whether or not the algorithm their using is fair enough for both the casino and their clients.

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November 02, 2022, 09:47:15 AM
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I don't think so they will intentionally so this because there's some really restriction in other country I guess you saw a slot.games and tons of people.make a huge wins in that game so you came up with that idea. Actually most likely restrictions happen if the country limits those accessibility and at the same time is not yet authorized to release their games in that country.
If that casino supports VPN why not you can freely use those to access these games.

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November 02, 2022, 12:54:09 PM
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

That's an interesting topic and theory why did you think that casinos are resorting to this, even if its a speculation there should be a basis, is it because you are not winning big and there are people you know from other locations that win big amounts, we really never know unless there is something like an exposee or a reliable data but the question who will do a study of the data, I'd like to believe that we all have a fair chance and it's not about location, it's hard to think the other way.

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November 02, 2022, 01:03:29 PM
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And that is where cryptocurrencies will come in.
This is also the reason why online gambling sites are being targeted by money laundering schemes and so the other reason why the government keeps an eye on them.
Locations with strict amounts about how much it can pay out are a drag for those who can really bet big.
But right now, there are options to just play in a physical casino instead of online because most of them are opening again. In there, I don't think they will be limited by such small amounts.

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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?
i dont think any casino will do this or currently doing it, if you know any or the casinos involved in this kind of act, then maybe you should mention them here so that gamblers will take care from gambling on such casinos.

Such an act to me is unlawful, unfair and shouldn't be taken lightly if a gambler finds out, just imagine after loosing so much on a casino and one day, luck decides to smile at you and a game you were supposed to win lets say $50k, the casino cut it down to $1,500 all in the name of not wanting to get involved in a legal matter because such an amount is too big based on the location or region you are gambling from, how would you feel ? it is absolutely unfair to the gambler and if any casino does such to me, I will drag them to court.

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November 02, 2022, 01:32:17 PM
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Knowing too well, most gambling site has their restricted areas of withdrawal or limitations of amount which a user can be able to withdraw from the sites. If it happens that your location is limited or restricted then you can actually use ip or vpn to access site from restrictions location. To me I will advise to make sure to read their terms and conditions before engaging yourself otherwise you might allowed to withdraw.
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November 02, 2022, 01:55:26 PM
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?
I've never heard of such a case in crypto online casinos, by using an algorithm to limit winnings, isn't that forbidden that's not fair the casino you mean even is not worth it. Regarding the amounts of crypto withdrawals it should be the same limit as users in legal gambling countries, if it's different possibility is fiat money only but for crypto all same limit.

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November 02, 2022, 02:25:45 PM
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If it is a local casino, they may use it to limit the amount of money the winner can withdraw or limit the winning money that the gambler can win. But if it's from a casino site, I think it will be difficult but the casino can easily not allow the winner to withdraw his winnings and use various excuses not to pay his winnings.

Normally i Casino has no right to denied any gambler right in claiming his winnings because of geographical location and this shouldn't be a barrier for a gambler to claim his win, they can refer the gambler for security reasons and make it official, as to the best of my knowledge most casinos don't award big winnings in their local offices, they will always make a need for the provisioned to be transferred.

And if it happens at a local casino, maybe the winner can report it to the local government to investigate so that the authority can ask the casino and the winner can get the total winnings. But I also do not understand legal issues like this.

Except for the scamming casinos will act such a way without presenting winners their winnings, reporting to the local authorities isn't effective enough to tackle this, but one can also take a legal action against them if such could happens, let also try to investigate on the kind of particular casino we make use of in playing our gamble in other to avoid future disappointments of such manners from any.

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November 02, 2022, 04:25:08 PM
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it is also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?
I've never heard of such a case in crypto online casinos, by using an algorithm to limit winnings, isn't that forbidden that's not fair the casino you mean even is not worth it. Regarding the amounts of crypto withdrawals, it should be the same limit as users in legal gambling countries if it's a different possibility is fiat money only but for crypto the same limit.
Fairness should be implemented for everyone who is playing on the gambling site. Their fair treatment of their players when it comes to winning withdrawals regardless of their country will reflect on their reputation. There are already countries that restrict some casino games from specific providers but implementing algorithms with unfair payment is too unjustifiable.
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November 02, 2022, 07:47:48 PM
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~snip~The only thing that casino is concerned about are the countries that they're prohibiting to gain access on them. But there are some that still allows it through the usage of VPN.

well, it's a clear rule that those who don't have access or have their access blocked and use a VPN won't get any specials or waivers on big unpaid wins.
Yeah, they won't be getting those special promos and offers from those that are not from restricted countries. But if you're a gambler and you want to play on that certain casino, that won't matter to you as long as you're allowed to gamble there with the use of VPN.

Actually they don't want to do restrictions, this is only because the regulations of each country are different and the blocking is done. Casinos have their own algorithms and they make them for their benefit as well as for the benefit of the players. The more players that enter, the more profits.
They have to comply to the regulators if they're not allowed to operate there or if there's a conflict of interest that's being applied to these casinos.

That's the only incentive that they can give from those players from restricted area, if they have an option to allow them.

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November 02, 2022, 07:56:04 PM
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

Isn't it a unfair practice though if casino's are deliberately doing it?

What if someone find out or some insider leaked that out? for sure the reputation of that casino will be hit hard. I know that we don't have any sources about this thing, but for me casino's are not that stupid do to this kind of thing.

They can still make a lot of money without being resorting to this kind of algorithm, just saying.
True, they are running a long term based kind of business which they wouldnt really be doing bullshit things for the benefit of that possible revenue which they could eventually earn along the way if they wanted to.
Casinos now are mostly been regulated which it would be always normal to think or assume that they do really abide on laws and regulations that had been set out.It would really be followed if they wont or dont really
like on having those potential headaches and issues might be raised if certain informations would be leaked out just in case.If they are aware about those restricted countries or those limitations
then its no brainer that they would really be implying it and would be likely on running the business for long term.

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November 02, 2022, 08:14:32 PM
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?
We didn't know that yet OP but what we only know is that once a slot game is provably fair, the casino doesn't have a control about the results and we can always verify each of the results that we get to see if it's manipulated or not. It was only our luck are the ones that limits us if how low or high we can win every time we step on the gambling arena.

Why you suddenly think of this anyway? Are you wondering that some gamblers on other countries can be able to win big but you can not? Casinos themselves can always restrict the players' country right at the start, if they think they will be in trouble once that player win huge but there is also KYC which can allow the player to bypass this restrictions.

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November 03, 2022, 01:27:19 AM
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If it is a local casino, they may use it to limit the amount of money the winner can withdraw or limit the winning money that the gambler can win. But if it's from a casino site, I think it will be difficult but the casino can easily not allow the winner to withdraw his winnings and use various excuses not to pay his winnings.

Normally i Casino has no right to denied any gambler right in claiming his winnings because of geographical location and this shouldn't be a barrier for a gambler to claim his win, they can refer the gambler for security reasons and make it official, as to the best of my knowledge most casinos don't award big winnings in their local offices, they will always make a need for the provisioned to be transferred.
Casinos do not have the right to refuse gamblers who want to withdraw their winnings but we know that casinos have their own rules. And if they think a gambler is violating rules, they can not allow the gambler to withdraw his winnings. And we have also seen how this happens to many gamblers who complain to this forum.

And if it happens at a local casino, maybe the winner can report it to the local government to investigate so that the authority can ask the casino and the winner can get the total winnings. But I also do not understand legal issues like this.

Except for the scamming casinos will act such a way without presenting winners their winnings, reporting to the local authorities isn't effective enough to tackle this, but one can also take a legal action against them if such could happens, let also try to investigate on the kind of particular casino we make use of in playing our gamble in other to avoid future disappointments of such manners from any.
Casino scammers can withhold winning money easily and won't allow them to take it out of their casino. And I think that instead of having problems in the future, we should not have to look for casino sites from other places because, in this forum, there are so many casinos that can be recommendations for us to choose a good casino. This will help us to stay away from those fraudulent casinos.

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November 03, 2022, 10:39:50 AM
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

Well there are definitely some online gambling casinos which tend to act on bad faith and follow some rather shady/bad business practices. That much is true. Although the better known casinos do not do this.

But when it comes to those smaller, less known casinos who don't know how to run a good business, they will usually find any reason they can to stall or avoid paying their players for whatever reason they can find. Although as far as locations go, you could just use a VPN to hide your location. So I am not sure how reliable the data is on that. I do not doubt that they find devious ways to swindle players out of money.

But again, this goes for the bad casinos. The bigger, well known ones do not do this.

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November 03, 2022, 01:05:51 PM
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

This is manipulation and unfair if someone will come out and tell us that some casinos are doing it, and he has proof we will all be shaken, but I have not seen any accusation yet, its still not in existence we all know that some casinos are delaying payment or have bad supports or not paying their winners and giving false accusations but manipulating certain people from their location not to win big has to be proven first, but so far every bet can be verified so no chance for this kind of manipulation.

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I don't think they will do that, you can verify every bet, and the casino has no access to that its the game provider and if the game is in house there is a seed that you can verify that, and no one complaints here that he cannot win because he comes from this country, it hard to prove that, we don't like manipulation, someone should come out with a proof that some casino is doing that, we can come out a lot of conspiracy theory but without proof its a theory.
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If what you said here that players can be restricted to win certain huge amount of money because of where they come from is true, I think such a casino will have to make its customers from such areas not play at all, than play and not get paid when they win. There will be severe lawsuits against the casino if that happens. But why would any casino do that, as that will discredit them even among those who get paid their winnings. I do not think there is any casino that can possibly do that.
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