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December 17, 2022, 06:09:42 PM
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I don't think that's possible and won't be done. What can happen is that they will cut the general terms and conditions. And if they do, they could start putting things in it that it's not allowed to win more than $25,000 a week in a casino or sports betting site. Then when you get over it, you will see them take your winnings away from you. But meanwhile they just let you gamble without any problems. There are several scam sites of this kind, most of which are licensed by the MGA. Which is also a wash nose nowadays.

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December 17, 2022, 10:57:42 PM
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There’s a lot of scam casino out there with license yet they still can operate since license provider don’t do thorough inspection one by one.

Out of curiosity, what licensed casinos are you referring to that can still operate freely but are now tagged or considered scams?

Who provides these casinos with their respective licenses?

If that's the case, that's alarming and the community should be aware of these casinos.

But the scenario given by OP that limit the payout of user base on the country has no basis and useless like what you explained already that government doesn’t care about the casino once it has license to operate.

I thought of that too. I never even heard of an incident where online casinos put a limit or a sort of winning restriction based on the country or region.

Can't think of a reason why should they do that since in the first place, why should they do it, and no significance in doing it.

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December 17, 2022, 11:20:35 PM
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In this case, certain casinos usually have their own Terms and Conditions or regulations regarding certain countries that are permitted or restricted. However, because of the large number of online casinos nowadays, there are also many online casinos that do not have restrictions on a country. The mechanism for receiving prizes at the moment at online casinos may not be too strict, regardless of which country is eligible or who comes there. Most of them probably only focus on the number of users and also the income at the casino, the profit they get is enough for all of that.

Casino license nowadays doesn’t do thorough inspection especially on online casino. They can give a different source code to the auditors that passed there requirements and install different one on actual game since license company doesn’t do a regular audit. There’s a lot of scam casino out there with license yet they still can operate since license provider don’t do thorough inspection one by one.
Indeed, some online casinos may only use certain licenses of gambling platforms that are no related to some rules and regulations. And moreover, not all licensed casino is legit so this may not really give certain impacts. Moreover, since the pandemic, there are huge online casinos that are emerging until now and many of them may be illegal or not based on license. But, many gamblers also use them because of the promotions and advertsiment, inclduing they only focus on what thye can do and they can earn until withdrawing money to their bank account. This may be quite risky, but this also often ahppens.

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December 18, 2022, 12:07:42 AM
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 #104

We will never know what the casinos do with their algorithms, but it could happen considering we play where they are the owners, so they can prevent someone from winning a lot of money. But if the public finds this out, the casino will not be able to avoid it and must accept the sanctions because the casino has committed abuse in its own place. I don't understand why casinos have to do something like that, but maybe it's a way to prevent casinos from losing a lot of money to some experienced gamblers playing at their establishments. But the location will have no effect because casino games cannot be played by people from countries that the casino has banned. Just my 2 cents.
It is unlike casinos will do something like changing the payout rates of their slots depending on where you are located, now this may seem impossible to demonstrate if they did so but in fact it is very easy, as long as got a large enough sample of the results players got and they were sorted depending on your location you could make a statistical analysis about the rate at which they win and the prize money they get, and if there are significant differences between the amount of money won by the players of one country compared to another one then you will know they are indeed engaging in this kind of behavior.
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December 18, 2022, 12:30:51 PM
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We will never know what the casinos do with their algorithms, but it could happen considering we play where they are the owners, so they can prevent someone from winning a lot of money. But if the public finds this out, the casino will not be able to avoid it and must accept the sanctions because the casino has committed abuse in its own place. I don't understand why casinos have to do something like that, but maybe it's a way to prevent casinos from losing a lot of money to some experienced gamblers playing at their establishments. But the location will have no effect because casino games cannot be played by people from countries that the casino has banned. Just my 2 cents.
It is unlike casinos will do something like changing the payout rates of their slots depending on where you are located, now this may seem impossible to demonstrate if they did so but in fact it is very easy, as long as got a large enough sample of the results players got and they were sorted spending on your location you could make a statistical analysis about the rate at which they win and the prize money they get, and if there are significant differences between the amount of money won by the players of one country compared to another one then you will know they are indeed engaging in this kind of behavior.
It may look easy, but I'm not sure a casino will do it, especially if it's a trusted casino that has been operating for years. They will not cheat their players to get bigger profits because it will be related to the reputation they have built before. But as I said before, we don't know, and if we have a feeling like that, we can move on to another casino that won't do what we think it will. We are lucky to have a lot of trusted casinos, so we can easily move to another casino if there is something we don't want.
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December 18, 2022, 01:09:48 PM
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

Is it a guess or you have a valid source to get this information?
Never heard about such policy in online casinos before and I also never heard there is a complain from players that they get less winning limit that other players because of location difference.
If you have no valid source about this thing, most people will say that you are spreading a hoax.
So kindly post a link if you read about this information somewhere out there, and we all can read it to know what is the exact information in case you missed something in the source.

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   -  I think it is irrelevant and the connection is very distant if a gambler is in a remote place because he is playing in an online casino. Then it seems that the casino implementing this policy is also very unfair.

At the very beginning of their sign-up, they should tell them which country is restricted to them so that those who try to create an account on their platform will not waste or even try, not when they have won a large amount of money then they will say that the country he is in is restricted, so that they appear like a gambler.

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Monitoring a particular account statement is part of keeping the country or a particular locality safe, due to the alarming news of online crises everywhere. I don't think this should call for the restriction of individuals from such a locality. When a locality performs KYC verification on its citizen, I believe every information needed about a particular transaction is gotten; as such, the citizen has no problem and this has nothing to do with the Casino. It is apparently inappropriate for a Casino to restrict its customer due to community terms.

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December 18, 2022, 03:45:02 PM
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I haven’t heard of something like this, a casino limiting the winnings of players based on their place of origin. But more of, casino limiting players of certain countries in accessing and playing to their website. Wouldn’t that be consider as rigid if the system if programmed to kind of distribute different rewards based on location? Anyway, if the concern of limiting payout due to government issues in the source on incoming funds of a player, it should be already covered especially if the casino has license, right?

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December 18, 2022, 03:50:06 PM
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   -  I think it is irrelevant and the connection is very distant if a gambler is in a remote place because he is playing in an online casino. Then it seems that the casino implementing this policy is also very unfair.

At the very beginning of their sign-up, they should tell them which country is restricted to them so that those who try to create an account on their platform will not waste or even try, not when they have won a large amount of money then they will say that the country he is in is restricted, so that they appear like a gambler.
You got a point, maybe the only thing that I know that can be possible is that they will limit those people who will win in a certain country? maybe that could be possible but it is unfair again, but they can do this for the sake of their business as well, if many people will win in that casino and knowing other countries still don't legalize crypto and get this news their casino website might be block and those people will be punish as well.
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December 18, 2022, 06:33:02 PM
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

I think some online casinos are designed an house edge in order to maintain their profits to their side. Maybe it is not in the form of algorithms but tit definitely has the device of having the edge on their side. Though this is the first time that I have heard about restricting their locations via changing their percentages of winning to their advantage in the event that the player is registered in a country that prohibits gambling.

Though this may be the case, I doubt that online gambling companies have such system stored and implemented. At the end of the day, if the person who gambles won but it was subsequently discovered that his act of gambling is prohibited, then the law enforcements of his/her country would do the rest of the arrests.

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December 18, 2022, 07:33:48 PM
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All we have is just speculation and has no proven facts that casinos are cheating their players by limiting wins in certain regions.  I don't know why the casino will be selective in this process when they can just put winning limits to all regions but of course reputable casino don't do that else they might be found out if a surprise audit is done to their system.

As far as I know, every region has seeds, and in every session, these seeds change. It is possible that a person can get a good seed regardless of his location.  So a player in x location can win huge amount of money while a player on y location will not.  Then the situation may interchange because of the randomness of seed that is triggered every time each player starts their gambling session.

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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?
the answer is clear , WHo really knows ? technology inside casino games are hard to understand as the experts behind those games are the reason why casino owners continues to become richer while players loses .
and also even Physical casinos have their ways in beating gamblers so the real thing? the games are designed for them to take our money and that is the truth .

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December 21, 2022, 02:25:48 AM
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?
the answer is clear , WHo really knows ? technology inside casino games are hard to understand as the experts behind those games are the reason why casino owners continues to become richer while players loses .
and also even Physical casinos have their ways in beating gamblers so the real thing? the games are designed for them to take our money and that is the truth .
While other experts who want to unravel such things will also not be easy to find because it means those experts have to go inside the casino and examine the algorithms more deeply. Meanwhile, casinos will always check for security holes in their sites so that no one can penetrate them. It's better that we don't have to think about whether something like that exists in some casinos or applies to all because it won't be easy to find out and find it. We must know that a casino is a place of business that wants to benefit from losing gamblers.

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December 21, 2022, 09:33:28 PM
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?
No, I'll explain why it's impossible.

If the game is provably fair like Dice, etc then you can simply verify your bets and hence it's impossible to offer extra to a particular region. If the game is not provably fair it's most likely a third party slot provider like Nolimit City, Hacksaw, etc who have a set RTP for each of their games and they provide gaming service to casinos and can't what player from which location accessed and played their games.

Yeah it may be entirely possible and ethical to offer extra bonuses & generous welcome offers to players from a particular region and that I believe is fine because bonuses are something at the discretion of the casino.

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December 22, 2022, 12:27:03 AM
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That's probably just a thought and we'll never know unless someone who works for a casino tells that they're doing it but for now, I think that they're not doing it.
But there's a sort of idea that whenever someone has been winning a lot, regardless of his location, there goes the algo that they might have detected it and they start to lessen the chance of winning. At least this is only for luck-based games and we all knew that it's not going to be a lucky day forever.

If I also think the same as you, in fact many years ago I always went with a friend to a casino that we had near the University, at that time we had not been going for more than 2 months, but each one of us knew how to divide in order to win, sometimes we learned patterns and looked for roulette when there were many people, when there were many at roulette it was more likely for us to win, and we did that, so every time we went we had a very good streak, so that was something we already did We looked like an ATM, that allowed us to see our behavior perhaps on cameras, then some time after finishing some midterm exams we came back and they didn't let us in.

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At the very beginning of their sign-up, they should tell them which country is restricted to them so that those who try to create an account on their platform will not waste or even try, not when they have won a large amount of money then they will say that the country he is in is restricted, so that they appear like a gambler.
You can find it yourself on the terms of service on each casino, they usually have different tiers of limitation. Like the absolute restriction where people who came from this country aren't allowed to gamble at all, less restriction where people who came from this country need to submit KYC since this regions has high criminal and money laundering case, and then restrictions about some games for specific regions since gambling providers has their own rules too.

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December 22, 2022, 03:13:15 PM
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At the very beginning of their sign-up, they should tell them which country is restricted to them so that those who try to create an account on their platform will not waste or even try, not when they have won a large amount of money then they will say that the country he is in is restricted, so that they appear like a gambler.
You can find it yourself on the terms of service on each casino, they usually have different tiers of limitation. Like the absolute restriction where people who came from this country aren't allowed to gamble at all, less restriction where people who came from this country need to submit KYC since this regions has high criminal and money laundering case, and then restrictions about some games for specific regions since gambling providers has their own rules too.
Each casino has its own rules that will not be the same and it is also possible that the casino will limit the amount of winnings each player from a different country can obtain. We also won't know if the casino does something like that and we can only speculate without knowing the truth. But instead of considering those restrictions, we need to play and enjoy our time. When it's time to win, we will win and vice versa.

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December 22, 2022, 03:24:42 PM
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Gamblers should stop and avoid looking for excuses to the failures for their winnings, there are no barriers be it small or big that can hinders a gambler from winning an online game henplayed, the ideology is simple, if you're good at doing it (gambling) there's high probabilities for you to win and if you jad problems with compliance to understand the ways it's been played, you may less have opportunities to win, location barrier should be in favour of those that are into offline gambling or casino house gamblings and not the online one.

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December 22, 2022, 03:41:38 PM
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I do not know about those illegally operated casinos, but if a casino has a licence and operate legally, it would be in the ToS that certain regions or countries are not allowed to make use of their gambling services. This would help against what you are talking about as they operate legally. Which means all money won by customers has nothing to do with the regulators or governments than paying tax.

I agree with this. I think locations do not matter on the winning amount the players can win because the casinos are to decide on it overall speaking. If there's one thing that would vary is that the games that can be played and the operation of the casino in different countries.

This is because in some countries, they allow gambling but only to a certain extent and only to specif kinds of games. And there are also countries that do not really permit the operations of casinos. In this case, you'll see that it is stated in their TOS that they do not operate in countries because of banning issue and the likes.
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